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That may be the case. I suppose that depends on the person and the instructors bias. I've been using that grip since the 90s, got me to a 2, now 5ish, and still hitting the ball straight or as needed.
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IMO, the picture distorts the proper trail hand position. Look at the picture below provided by Hogan 5. It has the club laying half across the knuckles and under palm pad. I have been using this Vardon grip since taking up golf. The right hand merely solidifies the grip with the right little finger riding between the left index and second finger, NOT on top. The left hand portion of the grip is key.
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What could be expected by a professional fitter and what you realize may be two different outcomes. In overall terms, you should gain some yards as well as tighten up dispersion. Whether those work with your feel, is another topic.
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Shafts - worth it for a weekend player?
Pepperturbo replied to CaptAmerica103's topic in WRX Club Techs
Ask yourself is your skill level and awareness sufficient to detect the new technology, and do you value your game despite seeing yourself as a weekend warrior? I play 1-2 times per week, with no range time yet able to detect differences in technology, and I don't see myself as a weekend warrior. -
Hot Weather Golf and your Gloves
Pepperturbo replied to ajlacombe's topic in Golf Style and Accessories
Living and playing in SOCAL, AZ and HI islands, I am used to heat. Typically, I carry 2-3 gloves. The glove I wear, I take off after my shot and put it back on for the next; that way it doesn't develop sweat stains. Also my hands don't sweat profusely. If it's near 100', sweat can develop around the velco area of the glove, like last Sunday. I'll wear it to finish the round then, if bad, thrown it away. -
LOL IMO a cut shot is a purposely crafted slice. Most of the time, I don't see conditions that merit a draw or fade, much less a cut/slice, so I hit it straight. But now and again, conditions merit a cut/slice or draw/hook. The last cut shot was on a par 5, 2nd shot. Using 3i, cut the ball around the left side of a huge tree that stands in the middle of the fairway. If my tee shot is a little more right of tree center, then it's a low draw using a 3i or 4i.
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I tested graphite as light as in 50ish, 65ish, and 70ish; I couldn't slow my tempo down consistently, and as a result, I was erratic, with too much left dispersion. Overall, been using composite since 2018, before that PX 6.0 (120g) for 15+yrs. The change was not for physical reasons just wear and tear, comfort and distance as I fight father time. However, I did go back to steel recently, out of my love for PX Red 6.0 (lighter 110g version); it only lasted a few months. They are great shafts, but no gains. Didn't like the feel on poor strikes, so reverted to Pro 95i tour spec stiff graphite in 2i-9i, and the same shaft, only 116g in PW and DG Tour Issue steel in 52 & 58. As much as I enjoy steel in my wedges for feel, steel is no longer the answer for my full-shot game.
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In hindsight, it really depends on the day. Some days my long game or iron play is a solid factor in posting a decent score. Other days, my wedges are my saving score grace on every hole. I believe the more accurate approach is to have an all around game. To effectively use all 14 clubs at one time or another. If one aspect isn't working, another part picks up and carries the game.
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At 74, I can assure the OP, he's NOT old. If I were 55, I'd be hitting every club longer. This weekend got the juices flowing swinging rather well. Felt like I was getting max out of my shafts over 6400yds. Hit many solid shots and GIR; wedges worked too. I was happy. Unfortunatly, with age, it takes a bit to get the juicies flowing. Thus, first hole I was swinging like a hack, I doubled #1, finally started swinging at 3, but pooped out on the last 3 holes, so walked off with 79. Two weeks back it was hot out, so I was swinging freely and finished with 76. Plus I was playing a course I really like. Though that was respectable, I want to shoot my age. If you want to get better, consider regular exercise, practice as often as you can, and play as often as possible, and stay patient.
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Will Scottie get ANY actual competition any time soon? (A study)
Pepperturbo replied to Birdman62's topic in Tour Talk
In Jack's day he had AP, GP, Travino and Seve, etc. Scottie has his current (as you say) uncomfortable competitors, who win. So, IMO, what you suggested is normal in any given field. Have a pleasant day. -
For most people feel is NOT quantifiable, while fit is. The question is which shaft does what it's told and which might not do what you envision. That is how I do it. I am 100% feel player. The best way I can describe "feel" is I look at a shot and my instinct tells me what club to pull. Sometimes my brain interjects, that's when confusion shows it's ugly face. In those instances, I tend to take the longer of the two, and most of the time it works out. Point: Feeling is often times reacting to ego, and ego is often wrong. One man's 2 cents.
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Will Scottie get ANY actual competition any time soon? (A study)
Pepperturbo replied to Birdman62's topic in Tour Talk
Every golfer eventually runs into something similar. How soon that is or if it even happens depends on the mental capacity of the person in question. I don't see it soon, but eventually. Taking into account how Scottie generally behaves and acts under exteme pressure, the only wall he hits is the day he gets up, puts his pants on, looks at his bank account and says to his wife, we got enough? If she says yes, it's up to you, he's likely to walk away. I say that because i did something similar not long ago. -
Will Scottie get ANY actual competition any time soon? (A study)
Pepperturbo replied to Birdman62's topic in Tour Talk
I wouldn't say, Scottie is the the next Tiger, but maybe more like Jack Nicklaus. -
Will Scottie get ANY actual competition any time soon? (A study)
Pepperturbo replied to Birdman62's topic in Tour Talk
As I see him, he can maintain focus while others are easily distracted. I am that same way. I see the ball and hit it, find it and hit it again, and don't change what works. Sometimes the problem can be simple, right in front of someone's face, like the grip is off, while most others delve into changing all sorts of things, hoping. -
Right Hand, Right Eye Dominant Golfers
Pepperturbo replied to iceman1118's topic in Instruction & Academy
Here's one for ya, born left-handed, became ambidextrous around 6ish. I am right-eye dominant, and do most things right-handed, but write using both hands, shoot using both, knife skills left-handed, throw and kick right-side, golf right-handed, but good left-handed putter using the putter's backside flange. I have a slightly open stance, neutral 1 o'clock grip, somewhat short backswing, fast transition, and tempo and I rarely, if ever, see impact, but see before impact and after and generally hit the ball straight with a moderate trajectory.