Interesting what you say about the Ping 4 hybrid. I had both the G430 4 and 5 hybrid, but sold the 5 hybrid, because my Srixon ZX5 5-iron was just as long, but more useful for trouble shots (knockdowns, punch outs, etc.). My 4 hybrid gaps well between my G425 7-wood and 5-iron; and is also good for short and tight par 4s, or safe layups on par 5s.