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Milo tried to put out a rebuttal to AMGs shallowing video a while ago. It didn't go well for him. I'll be curious if AMG responds this time. I'm guessing they'll ignore him.

Thanks. So just different definitions. But I'd say amgs definition is a little more intuitive considering the use of the term in other contexts of the swing.

I'll go out on a limb here and guess they're not including Mr Havercamp's 3d data in their aggregation of elite swing models.

For a while now I've seen lots of AMG videos about "The Magic Move", reconnecting the trail arm to the side first move down. This is the first video I've seen where they describe how it needs to disconnect off the side again. From my own perspective this feels like it was a missing piece. It's an interesting swing cue for me to not forget to launch the arm back off the ribs or continue driving through the swing... the right arms job isn't over after reconnecting. Since I first watched this video a few days ago, in my mind's eye I've been wrestling with this image of a swing plane relative to my right shoulder joint rather than just the actual swing plane and trying to reconcile it with the rest of my idea of a swing... My mind's eye tends to leads me off a cliff sometimes so as I said jury is still out.

Jury is still out. While I thought I was familiar with AMG's swing off the right side concepts that video provided a slightly different perspective that I find pretty interesting.

Maybe we're talking about different versions of "wipe". I haven't watched much of Tyler's stuff, can you provide a video where he describes the wipe? Here is more on AMG's "wipe": More on AMG's trail arm extension: And some more on AMG's trail arm extension:

Lol, no not at all

Not what I gathered at all. The opposite. They're saying from the player perspective the swing extends 45 degrees off the shoulder line. so if you isolated the arm movement and took out any rotation the swing path would look like a circle to first base.

Could you decode this graphic a bit? I'm thinking bottom labels 1 through 7 are meant to be P1 through P7?

I've got two little ones in baseball, soccer, and basketball. they damn sure do teach mechanics. Coincidentally my daughter also had a basketball shooting mechanics session just two days ago. Trying to get her to use the ground and sequence better... sound familiar? lol

You're looking at the mean, AMG is looking at the mode.

Club path vs swing path... where's a trash can lid when you need one?

It all seems consistent.. I'm not sure what all the confusion is about. They state in the linked video that this is the sequel to the famous shallowing video. Here's some numbers from that video that might help? Pro level mobility test (P4 to p5): 1. Adduct trail arm 10 degrees 2. Internally rotate trail arm 5 degrees 3. Extend trail elbow 10 degrees 4. Supinate trail arm 20 degrees 5. Lower arm 20 - 25 degrees http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfvVnWwhQFc?si=o8jrXfVlYNwuJmuS&t=829

Wait a sec... THAT IS AN OPTION?!?

Looks like you're barely holding the club with your trail hand.

I don't think some of y'all understand the question. Allow me to rephrase: Should I get a lesson indoors with ice cold air conditioning? Or a lesson out doors, in Texas, in late July/ early August, where it's hot and humid enough to literally steam your dumplings and when the breeze blows it's like someone turned on the Princess Vespa's industrial strength hair dryer?

I think it's easier to get all this done if you shift or recenter correctly.

I've never seen one but it's not like I get around much either... Funny enough the instructor down the street has gears. I don't remember how we got into this conversation a few years ago but he also thinks force plates are overrated. that's the PG rated version of the conversation anyway.

Printing something this big at 100% infill would use a lot of filament and take forever to print. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it would still be relatively light weight. Not sure how you'd press fit rebar with all the ridges without just tearing up the plastic. You could try to heat up and press fit smooth bar but why not just glue in some bbs or other steel scrap at this point? (edit) If you look at the screenshot from ppdoc's post on Sunday the solid looking parts aren't sold either. The inside of the parts that you can't see would be some kind of honey comb structure to save time and material but still provide rigidity to the exterior walls. You're telling me that if you whack this thing with an 80 mph 7-iron that it won't break?

No more than 2 waggles. Any more than that then you're just playing with it...

The concern is accidentally breaking it with a swing (or even just dropping it on the floor) and shattering the 3d print sending bbs flying everywhere. Why not just super glue the whole thing together? Does it ever need to come back apart?

They call me Paul Bunyan, 'cause my swing clears forests and splits fairways!

Check out these log reaction forces

The E-Bell is interesting... I just have a hard time with the golf training aid markup https://www.ericksonbell.shop/shop