Trackman Numbers - Help please

Golfrnut · July 28, 2014

[quote name='AlexCzervic' timestamp='1406562264' post='9801351'] [quote name='Golfrnut' timestamp='1406553021' post='9800229'] [quote name='AlexCzervic' timestamp='1406522228' post='9799163'] I know exactly how all this works but I have to guess at what he's is doing without info. If this 135# kid is sweeping a 7 iron 90mph off his left heel then [b]I GUESSED WROng , [/b]iF he is snap releasing near his right heel then I guessed right and I know exactly what is going on and where his spin went. AC [/quote] Okay, So ball position has what to do with head CG and tip frequency? [color=#0000cd]No idea, what?[/color] You are tap dancing between equipment and swing charactoristics....so which is it? It does not sound to me like you have very much figured out. [/quote] [color="#0000cd"]Release and cg influence shaft bend. Ball position influences vertical angle for non-hacks.[/color] [color=#0000CD]Do you have a theory about his missing 1850 rpm's?[/color] AC [/quote]

With irons, fwd/aft CG does not have enough of an effect to change launch and spin significantly, the same as I have already stated before. If what you say is happening, did happen, launch and spin would be increased, not decreased. Spin in itself, is a product of spin loft and the position of impact on the head. In this case, relatively low launch with a lower spin number, point to none of the above. But again, for indoors with mats, there are more variable to accound for with regards to what numbers are presented.

And I don't understand what you mean by missing 1850? What is missing about it? That it doesn't read 7K with a 7 iron? Welcome to the real world and personal swing dynamics. Spin is a product/result of other inputs, there is no defined number that "should" be there, mearly a result of A and B.

AlexCzervic · July 28, 2014

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So after a session at the range, I decided to get trackman numbers for my 7 iron (tour preferred cb's) with KBS Tour stiff flex

Avg
Distance - 190 yards
Carry - 186
Clubhead Speed - 89mph
Ball Speed - 121mph
Vert Angle 16.4 - Horizontal Angle .5Deg L
Spinrate 5145 RPM - LOW
Max Height 34 Yards
Draw/Fade (-)3 yards

First off, these were the first time I played the tp cb's and they felt a little hot off the face, normally I play 690.cb's and only hit my 7 iron about 178 carry. However, [color=#0000cd]one thing I was worried about is the very low spinrate[/color]. Can somebody interpret these numbers and even [color=#0000cd]help me understand what I'm doing wrong?[/color]

I'm 5'8", and about 160 lbs. I dont have long arms or anything, but I went to high school with a recent pga rookie of the year - so I played somewhat competitive amateur golf.

Thanks for anyone helping - ps i've uploaded videos of my swing on prior threads.
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[quote name='AlexCzervic' timestamp='1406569391' post='9802273']
Ok...........How do two fictional characters with the same equipment, vertical angle, speed and spin loft, [color=#0000cd]generate different spin numbers[/color].

AC
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Sorry, [color=#0000cd]not relevant to the OP's topic.[/color]
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Well....................how do you change spinrate?? The OP wants to know. His ball is getting blown all over the course and he can't control it on firm greens.........HELP HIM PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

AC

AlexCzervic · July 28, 2014

[quote name='Golfrnut' timestamp='1406569929' post='9802387']

And I don't understand what you mean by missing 1850? What is missing about it? That it doesn't read 7K with a 7 iron? Welcome to the real world and personal swing dynamics. Spin is a product/result of other inputs, there is no defined number that "should" be there, mearly a result of A and B.
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That's your answer?? Why is his spin 5150 instead of 7000?? The OP is worried about it. What is your answer??

AC

Golfrnut · July 28, 2014

[quote name='AlexCzervic' timestamp='1406573347' post='9802833'] [quote name='Golfrnut' timestamp='1406569929' post='9802387'] And I don't understand what you mean by missing 1850? What is missing about it? That it doesn't read 7K with a 7 iron? Welcome to the real world and personal swing dynamics. Spin is a product/result of other inputs, there is no defined number that "should" be there, mearly a result of A and B. [/quote] That's your answer?? Why is his spin 5150 instead of 7000?? The OP is worried about it. What is your answer?? AC [/quote]

I believe I already stated my opinion...which I believe is his next plan of action according to him.

[quote]To the OP:

I am assuming this was off of mats, natually, since it was indoors. I would not be too terribly concerned with what you are seeing as far as spin. Mats can change lost of numbers depending on the person/type of mat. See what exactly the on-course results are and go from there, or get a chance to hit them outside. Knowing what your ball descent angle and AoA was would be a bonus, but I would not lose sleep over it.
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AlexCzervic · July 29, 2014

[quote name='Golfrnut' timestamp='1406573540' post='9802853']
[quote name='AlexCzervic' timestamp='1406573347' post='9802833'] [quote name='Golfrnut' timestamp='1406569929' post='9802387'] And I don't understand what you mean by missing 1850? What is missing about it? That it doesn't read 7K with a 7 iron? Welcome to the real world and personal swing dynamics. Spin is a product/result of other inputs, there is no defined number that "should" be there, mearly a result of A and B. [/quote] That's your answer?? Why is his spin 5150 instead of 7000?? The OP is worried about it. What is your answer?? AC [/quote]

I believe I already stated my opinion...which I believe is his next plan of action according to him.

[quote]To the OP:

I am assuming this was off of mats, natually, since it was indoors. I would not be too terribly concerned with what you are seeing as far as spin. Mats can change lost of numbers depending on the person/type of mat. See what exactly the on-course results are and go from there, or get a chance to hit them outside. Knowing what your ball descent angle and AoA was would be a bonus, but I would not lose sleep over it.
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Oh, I see.

So translated, you don't know how to control spin and you hope it goes up. Got it.

AC

jay65 · July 29, 2014

[quote name='Golfrnut' timestamp='1406573540' post='9802853']
[quote name='AlexCzervic' timestamp='1406573347' post='9802833'] [quote name='Golfrnut' timestamp='1406569929' post='9802387'] And I don't understand what you mean by missing 1850? What is missing about it? That it doesn't read 7K with a 7 iron? Welcome to the real world and personal swing dynamics. Spin is a product/result of other inputs, there is no defined number that "should" be there, mearly a result of A and B. [/quote] That's your answer?? Why is his spin 5150 instead of 7000?? The OP is worried about it. What is your answer?? AC [/quote]

I believe I already stated my opinion...which I believe is his next plan of action according to him.

[quote]To the OP:

I am assuming this was off of mats, natually, since it was indoors. I would not be too terribly concerned with what you are seeing as far as spin. Mats can change lost of numbers depending on the person/type of mat. See what exactly the on-course results are and go from there, or get a chance to hit them outside. Knowing what your ball descent angle and AoA was would be a bonus, but I would not lose sleep over it.
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