No new acquistions...?

[SteveNZ]

OK, I give. Where is the asterisk? For continuing education purposes.

 

Top ball in second sleeve, middle ball in fourth sleeve.

[rex235]

Not exactly persimmon but definitely a classic. Will go great with my persimmon woods!

 

 

Are those LH golf balls? @Rex

 

No, they're not...

 

Just look for any LH Titleist golf equipment during this period....Persimmon woods? Forged Irons? RH Only.

 

Not many choices....

 

As Gary McCord said on TV....."You take what you can get....."

[freddiec]

Rex, you could get Lefty tour balatas ; I used to find them in the left rough.....

[rex235]

Rex, you could get Lefty tour balatas ; I used to find them in the left rough.....

 

Freddie-

 

And yet my findings were only Top Flites with an occasional Pinnacle... :taunt:

[oldschoolrocker]

+1 on the Cobras. My oldest son still throws a 7.5 degree one in the bag every now and then. Surprisingly easy to hit. An almost perfect size clubhead for a modern in my opinion.

 

And I second Stu on the Bird on the Ball TF.

[birly-shirly]

I may need to revisit that Cobra - I have a 370 model sitting unused in the shed that came with a set of irons I bought.

I'm a fan of midsized ti heads and shorter, steel shafts. 975D is my benchmark, but wouldn't mind experimenting with slightly larger and more modern heads. 983K is a very nice driver, but I'm kind of reluctant to mess with the shaft that's currently in mine as I like it as it is, and the bore through is a pain to work with. The Cobra is definitely a candidate for fuss-free re-shafting, and I have a Cleveland Launcher 400 that sets up nicely too.

[Fellaheen51]

I may need to revisit that Cobra - I have a 370 model sitting unused in the shed that came with a set of irons I bought.

I'm a fan of midsized ti heads and shorter, steel shafts. 975D is my benchmark, but wouldn't mind experimenting with slightly larger and more modern heads. 983K is a very nice driver, but I'm kind of reluctant to mess with the shaft that's currently in mine as I like it as it is, and the bore through is a pain to work with. The Cobra is definitely a candidate for fuss-free re-shafting, and I have a Cleveland Launcher 400 that sets up nicely too.

 

Must have been a different Birly poster who advised me how to deal with a Cally bore-thru a couple of days ago. That one said chop the shaft, "jam" it in, glob in some epoxy on the exposed end, light sanding, done. "Proper chop angles and plugs are for posers (and for professional club repairmen)". That's what I did. Easy. Just awaiting some final finishing touches before its debut. Seems just fine based on waggle testing. I digress.

 

Based on the 975 thread from awhile back, went out in search of smaller headed drivers. Proved to be very illuminating. Found and played a 983K first. Was greatly surprised by how well I could use the club. Not as long as the 460cc modern at the time (only by a small amount), but was able to hit the ball a whole lot straighter, finding fairways. Moved up the hierarchical ladder to a 905T (400cc). That may be the ideal size (for me) offering the attributes of a smaller head (ability to better square the face at impact) with some degree of forgiveness on mishits. Now, whenever I swing a 460cc, it feels quite ponderous and unwieldy. Perceptions have changed. The big-head is long gone.

 

And one of the "usual suspects" still wields a Cleveland Launcher 400. I've asked him if he's ever considered upgrading to something newer. His response was....."No. Why? This one seems to still work OK." Then, as is typically the case, he proceeds to out drive me by 10 yards. Hmmm.

[birly-shirly]

LoL!

 

If I may explain further...I'd have no issues jamming a replacement shaft into a 983K. If I was feeling clubproud, I might even seal up the end with gloop but my 975D doesn't even boast that.

 

But in the particular case of the 983K that I have, I like the V2 shaft that's already installed and the long titleist bore-thru does complicate removing and saving the original shaft. It can be done, but is liable to make calls on rather meagre reserves of experience, patience and skill that are pretty much exhausted half-way through my working day. As evidence, my 975D boasts one of those exotic "torched" finishes that seem to be trendy in modern putters, and the graphite shaft that I removed came out as scrap.

 

I actually picked up two of the rattiest looking V-steels the other day. The shop (not thrift) was practically giving them away. I'm looking forward to getting steel shafts into those, the fact that they'll never need headcovers, and that they won't accentuate my lack of finishing skills.

[Fellaheen51]

Curious. Was it a case of not being able to get enough heat down at the bottom of the shaft (bore-thru area) to break the epoxy bond without damaging the tip? Assuming of course, that you were using a shaft puller implement. I certainly would not mess with a metal that had a V2 installed. Those are pretty good graphite shafts. Sometimes, it's prudent to leave well enough alone.

 

May find that you like the V-Steels if its your first experience. A 5W has become the preferred fairway metal in the modern bag. Stupid easy to elevate and hit straight out of less than optimum lies. The 3 has been benched until further notice. Sprayed painted to cover the "Taylor Made" on the toe as part of a general freshening. Just so no one would know. Probably already know this, V-steels are .350 so shims will be needed.

[scomac2002]

 

And one of the "usual suspects" still wields a Cleveland Launcher 400. I've asked him if he's ever considered upgrading to something newer. His response was....."No. Why? This one seems to still work OK." Then, as is typically the case, he proceeds to out drive me by 10 yards. Hmmm.

 

I played with a fellow a couple of years back that had the full set of Launcher woods -- 1, 3, 5, 7. Just beautiful. My ideal I think for what a titanium driver and accompanying SS fairways should be from a size and aesthetic perspective. No bells and whistles, just a pure understated example of engineering. The clubs in question had been acquired from a secondhand/thrift. Some guys have all the luck!

[birly-shirly]

Curious. Was it a case of not being able to get enough heat down at the bottom of the shaft (bore-thru area) to break the epoxy bond without damaging the tip? Assuming of course, that you were using a shaft puller implement. I certainly would not mess with a metal that had a V2 installed. Those are pretty good graphite shafts. Sometimes, it's prudent to leave well enough alone.

 

May find that you like the V-Steels if its your first experience. A 5W has become the preferred fairway metal in the modern bag. Stupid easy to elevate and hit straight out of less than optimum lies. The 3 has been benched until further notice. Sprayed painted to cover the "Taylor Made" on the toe as part of a general freshening. Just so no one would know. Probably already know this, V-steels are .350 so shims will be needed.

 

Pretty much as you guessed. I'm no expert, but it does seem harder with a bore-through to direct the heat where it needs to go to weaken the bond. Not so much a problem with steel shafts, as there's much less concern there about using too much heat and you can twist the shaft out. I've got a puller and no question it works well with conventional bores, but the bore-thrus definitely take more time and more heat, and anxiety levels tend to build up in sync.

 

Not my first V-steel. I've got a 3 wood with an NV shaft which I got on a whim to complete my all-TM bag just to scandalize the forum and Bag for all Seasons thread. Just never got round to posting pics.

 

The recently acquired pair are a 3 and 5. Both have TM's stock graphite shaft - too long for my uses and bizarrely close together in length. I hit them at the range and, to be honest, didn't seem to launch the 5 much higher than the 3. I'll reserve judgement 'til I get them reshafted and shortened. 3* doesn't seem much of a loft gap though, in which case the 5 might well make the 3 redundant.

[scomac2002]

The recently acquired pair are a 3 and 5. Both have TM's stock graphite shaft - too long for my uses and bizarrely close together in length. I hit them at the range and, to be honest, didn't seem to launch the 5 much higher than the 3. I'll reserve judgement 'til I get them reshafted and shortened. 3* doesn't seem much of a loft gap though, in which case the 5 might well make the 3 redundant.

 

You bring up a very good point b-s. I find that I need 5° of loft and about an inch of shaft length differential to get a meaningful yardage gap at the long end of the bag. Hence the 11.5°/15.5°/20°/25° loft spacings at the top end of the modern bag. One of the realities of being a sub 90 mph SS player.

 

I haven't put that much thought into my various vintage set-ups, but I tend to play fewer clubs anyway with less concern about covering off specific distances via club choice versus shot making.

[birly-shirly]

Agreed. I'm no long hitter, but I'm more comfortable with long irons than fws. I'm happy hitting a 2 iron from a decent lie, and generally play one fw at around 16 or 17*. I'm not sure that this actually leaves much of a gap for a 5 wood, but have been told it's a virtue to keep an open mind.

[NRJyzr]

The recently acquired pair are a 3 and 5. Both have TM's stock graphite shaft - too long for my uses and bizarrely close together in length. I hit them at the range and, to be honest, didn't seem to launch the 5 much higher than the 3. I'll reserve judgement 'til I get them reshafted and shortened. 3* doesn't seem much of a loft gap though, in which case the 5 might well make the 3 redundant.

 

You bring up a very good point b-s. I find that I need 5° of loft and about an inch of shaft length differential to get a meaningful yardage gap at the long end of the bag. Hence the 11.5°/15.5°/20°/25° loft spacings at the top end of the modern bag. One of the realities of being a sub 90 mph SS player.

 

I haven't put that much thought into my various vintage set-ups, but I tend to play fewer clubs anyway with less concern about covering off specific distances via club choice versus shot making.

 

 

I think most everyone could do similar at the top end of their bag and not lose much of anything.

 

I've tweaked my iron lofts, dropping the 2 iron, weakening the 1 iron and strengthening the 3 iron a degree each to give me even 4° gaps throughout the set from 18° to 50° (until I put these TMs in the bag). I've also long thought about using 5° gaps throughout the irons, but I think that would be a lot harder to cobble together in a proper configuration.

[scomac2002]

The recently acquired pair are a 3 and 5. Both have TM's stock graphite shaft - too long for my uses and bizarrely close together in length. I hit them at the range and, to be honest, didn't seem to launch the 5 much higher than the 3. I'll reserve judgement 'til I get them reshafted and shortened. 3* doesn't seem much of a loft gap though, in which case the 5 might well make the 3 redundant.

 

You bring up a very good point b-s. I find that I need 5° of loft and about an inch of shaft length differential to get a meaningful yardage gap at the long end of the bag. Hence the 11.5°/15.5°/20°/25° loft spacings at the top end of the modern bag. One of the realities of being a sub 90 mph SS player.

 

I haven't put that much thought into my various vintage set-ups, but I tend to play fewer clubs anyway with less concern about covering off specific distances via club choice versus shot making.

 

 

I think most everyone could do similar at the top end of their bag and not lose much of anything.

 

I've tweaked my iron lofts, dropping the 2 iron, weakening the 1 iron and strengthening the 3 iron a degree each to give me even 4° gaps throughout the set from 18° to 50° (until I put these TMs in the bag). I've also long thought about using 5° gaps throughout the irons, but I think that would be a lot harder to cobble together in a proper configuration.

 

I think that a lot of modern distance irons with spring face technology have gone to 5° loft gapping. TM has been doing it for quite some time now.

 

I know that it sure can get tricky with vintage irons strengthening loft more than a degree or two because you have next to no bounce to work with. The attempt has been made with my GR Axial Tour Grinds with the 7 being lengthened and strengthened and the 5 weakened to make up for a missing 6. The 5 plays fine, but you can really cut a beaver pelt with that 7 if you get a bit steep! Sort of reminded me of my first experience hitting a hickory mashie niblick!

[RobotDoctor]

Not exactly persimmon but definitely a classic. Will go great with my persimmon woods!

 

 

Are those LH golf balls? @Rex

 

Too bad they have the asterisks. The non-asterisk ones were thought to be too hot by The USGA and Titleist had to take the heat out of them and then only the asterisk ones were legal for play.

 

It looks like the whole dozen are asterisk balls.

[CanadianCrippler]

Well folks, I just came back from picking up a whole bunch of persimmon's (97 for those who saw the listing)! Here is a quick list of some of the cool woods within this lot:

Toney Penna JS driver

Ben Hogan 6-screw speed slot driver

Ben Hogan driver, 3, 4, 5-woods with 4-screw (upside down Y pattern)

2 Wood Bros Corker drivers, no cork on soleplate

Texas Classics driver (Texan knockoff from Japan I believe)

Wood Bros AT2000 driver

3 Joe Powell drivers (J271, TW 387, DSP GT models)

Joe Powell DSP J2 driver, 3, 5-woods

A bunch of Macgregors!

And a number of others yet to be sorted through, PowerBilt, Ram, Wilson Staff, Spalding, and more!

 

PLUS!

 

While I was there, picked up 9 beautiful iron sets!

Wilson FG-17, Fluid Feel, Dyna-Power, Macgregor M85T, Top Flight Professional (Bird on Ball), Goosenecks, Hogan Grinds, Maxfli Australian Blade and Maxfli Australian Blade DP-30!

 

What a haul!!!!

 

Too many to post pictures of but if you want to see anything or are looking for anything, let me know.

 

CC

[rex235]

Well folks, I just came back from picking up a whole bunch of persimmon's (97 for those who saw the listing)! Here is a quick list of some of the cool woods within this lot:

Toney Penna JS driver

Ben Hogan 6-screw speed slot driver

Ben Hogan driver, 3, 4, 5-woods with 4-screw (upside down Y pattern)

2 Wood Bros Corker drivers, no cork on soleplate

Texas Classics driver (Texan knockoff from Japan I believe)

Wood Bros AT2000 driver

3 Joe Powell drivers (J271, TW 387, DSP GT models)

Joe Powell DSP J2 driver, 3, 5-woods

A bunch of Macgregors!

And a number of others yet to be sorted through, PowerBilt, Ram, Wilson Staff, Spalding, and more!

 

PLUS!

 

While I was there, picked up 9 beautiful iron sets!

Wilson FG-17, Fluid Feel, Dyna-Power, Macgregor M85T, Top Flight Professional (Bird on Ball), Goosenecks, Hogan Grinds, Maxfli Australian Blade and Maxfli Australian Blade DP-30!

 

What a haul!!!!

 

Too many to post pictures of but if you want to see anything or are looking for anything, let me know.

 

CC

 

CC-

 

RH Only???

[CanadianCrippler]

Sorry Rex, RH only..

 

CC

[rex235]

Sorry Rex, RH only..

 

CC

 

 

It Figures...

 

Had to ask.

[Maxwell]

Well folks, I just came back from picking up a whole bunch of persimmon's (97 for those who saw the listing)! Here is a quick list of some of the cool woods within this lot:

Toney Penna JS driver

Ben Hogan 6-screw speed slot driver

Ben Hogan driver, 3, 4, 5-woods with 4-screw (upside down Y pattern)

2 Wood Bros Corker drivers, no cork on soleplate

Texas Classics driver (Texan knockoff from Japan I believe)

Wood Bros AT2000 driver

3 Joe Powell drivers (J271, TW 387, DSP GT models)

Joe Powell DSP J2 driver, 3, 5-woods

A bunch of Macgregors!

And a number of others yet to be sorted through, PowerBilt, Ram, Wilson Staff, Spalding, and more!

 

PLUS!

 

While I was there, picked up 9 beautiful iron sets!

Wilson FG-17, Fluid Feel, Dyna-Power, Macgregor M85T, Top Flight Professional (Bird on Ball), Goosenecks, Hogan Grinds, Maxfli Australian Blade and Maxfli Australian Blade DP-30!

 

What a haul!!!!

 

Too many to post pictures of but if you want to see anything or are looking for anything, let me know.

 

CC

 

CC - The Wilson Goosenecks sound interesting - Max(Canada)

[CanadianCrippler]

'70s Hogan 10.5* Deep Faced 4-Screw Speed-Slot driver.

 

 

 

Texsport

 

Hey Tex, how deep is this driver? It is the same as what you have listed on eBay?

 

 

CC

[Maxwell]

CC

A bunch of MacGregor persimmon woods?.....anything from the 30's or 40's?

Max

[CanadianCrippler]

I think there may be one or two. I can't find my golf club books, so checking is tough.

 

 

CC

[CanadianCrippler]

Quick glance, I have a Byron Nelson, Macgregor Tourney model 40, rec. 4371 2-wood

 

 

CC

[CanadianCrippler]

Well folks, I just came back from picking up a whole bunch of persimmon's (97 for those who saw the listing)! Here is a quick list of some of the cool woods within this lot:

Toney Penna JS driver

Ben Hogan 6-screw speed slot driver

Ben Hogan driver, 3, 4, 5-woods with 4-screw (upside down Y pattern)

2 Wood Bros Corker drivers, no cork on soleplate

Texas Classics driver (Texan knockoff from Japan I believe)

Wood Bros AT2000 driver

3 Joe Powell drivers (J271, TW 387, DSP GT models)

Joe Powell DSP J2 driver, 3, 5-woods

A bunch of Macgregors!

And a number of others yet to be sorted through, PowerBilt, Ram, Wilson Staff, Spalding, and more!

 

PLUS!

 

While I was there, picked up 9 beautiful iron sets!

Wilson FG-17, Fluid Feel, Dyna-Power, Macgregor M85T, Top Flight Professional (Bird on Ball), Goosenecks, Hogan Grinds, Maxfli Australian Blade and Maxfli Australian Blade DP-30!

 

What a haul!!!!

 

Too many to post pictures of but if you want to see anything or are looking for anything, let me know.

 

CC

 

CC - The Wilson Goosenecks sound interesting - Max(Canada)

 

They are quite nice Max!

[NRJyzr]

Did I hear Ram?

 

Not that I really need anything, but when has that stopped any of us? LOL

[CanadianCrippler]

I have a 3&4-wood, Ram Tom Watson TW600. Also a Ram Driver, 3&5-wood set blonde with aluminum inserts.

 

 

Czc

[HoganApexBlades]

Well folks, I just came back from picking up a whole bunch of persimmon's (97 for those who saw the listing)! Here is a quick list of some of the cool woods within this lot:

Toney Penna JS driver

Ben Hogan 6-screw speed slot driver

Ben Hogan driver, 3, 4, 5-woods with 4-screw (upside down Y pattern)

2 Wood Bros Corker drivers, no cork on soleplate

Texas Classics driver (Texan knockoff from Japan I believe)

Wood Bros AT2000 driver

3 Joe Powell drivers (J271, TW 387, DSP GT models)

Joe Powell DSP J2 driver, 3, 5-woods

A bunch of Macgregors!

And a number of others yet to be sorted through, PowerBilt, Ram, Wilson Staff, Spalding, and more!

 

PLUS!

 

While I was there, picked up 9 beautiful iron sets!

Wilson FG-17, Fluid Feel, Dyna-Power, Macgregor M85T, Top Flight Professional (Bird on Ball), Goosenecks, Hogan Grinds, Maxfli Australian Blade and Maxfli Australian Blade DP-30!

 

What a haul!!!!

 

Too many to post pictures of but if you want to see anything or are looking for anything, let me know.

 

CC

 

CC,

 

PM me about the Hogan Grinds, please?

[oldschoolrocker]

CC,

Did you take a trip to visit Sultan Tim and borrow his genie?

Must have for a find like that.

Well played Double C.