Blade users thread (NO DEBATING CLUBHEADS! NO Buy Sell Trade!)

[Doaner84]

DeNinny, your pornstars have a twin and showing off her goods in the BST. Oh I wish I had the funds right now.

 

Heehee Doaner84, my Porn Stars are one of a kind. There are pretenders and lookalikes out there, but only one true set of Porn Stars. And they're MINE.

 

LOL ask the seller if they are available for rent and if they provide a "Girl Friend Experience". Otherwise, best I can do is post more pics.

I can always look at more pics to truly see the difference. He will probably say no to the geisha request though. hahaha

 

In all seriousness, have you ever hit them and/or found a Miura fitter/seller out your way in Charleston? He may hook you up with a handjob (LOL by that I mean demo a BB club for a while).

I have hit a couple of the wedge series wedges but never the baby blades. there is probably one around here in the area. I know David ayers is in Mount Pleasant and does fitting but I don't know about muira. Its just I don't like wasting a fitters time if I know I'm not getting the clubs yet and I'm pretty sure if I hit them I will buy them. I plan to make them my gift when i'm done with student loans.

[nzio]

I have been looking through eBay the last couple of days for a used Mizuno blade set, havn't found a single one on auction yet. (Europe)

 

All outside Europe is a big no, so many stupid taxes!

 

I did find Titleist 690 MB in ok condition, not sure if i'm gonna bid or not.

 

 

 

Ohh and why not a picture of my babys! The 3,4 and 5 iron in blades should come this week aswell.

[DeNinny]

DeNinny, your pornstars have a twin and showing off her goods in the BST. Oh I wish I had the funds right now.

 

Heehee Doaner84, my Porn Stars are one of a kind. There are pretenders and lookalikes out there, but only one true set of Porn Stars. And they're MINE.

 

LOL ask the seller if they are available for rent and if they provide a "Girl Friend Experience". Otherwise, best I can do is post more pics.

I can always look at more pics to truly see the difference. He will probably say no to the geisha request though. hahaha

 

In all seriousness, have you ever hit them and/or found a Miura fitter/seller out your way in Charleston? He may hook you up with a handjob (LOL by that I mean demo a BB club for a while).

I have hit a couple of the wedge series wedges but never the baby blades. there is probably one around here in the area. I know David ayers is in Mount Pleasant and does fitting but I don't know about muira. Its just I don't like wasting a fitters time if I know I'm not getting the clubs yet and I'm pretty sure if I hit them I will buy them. I plan to make them my gift when i'm done with student loans.

 

That is a good reward to yourself. It will be worth the wait and yes if you hit them the temptation may be too much. LMAO better to save up a 'load' for the big date. Until then, I will post sexy pics. I wanted to share how the black boron is wearing down anyway.

 

[mahonie]

I have been looking through eBay the last couple of days for a used Mizuno blade set, havn't found a single one on auction yet. (Europe)

 

All outside Europe is a big no, so many stupid taxes!

 

I did find Titleist 690 MB in ok condition, not sure if i'm gonna bid or not.

 

 

 

Ohh and why not a picture of my babys! The 3,4 and 5 iron in blades should come this week aswell.

 

GolfClubs4Cash in Scotland sometimes have some bargains in. Not sure if you're looking for something like this:

 

https://www.golfclubs4cash.co.uk/product_details.php?search_string=Mizuno&item_id=21934

 

Those Nikes are such a nice blade!

[nzio]

Thanks Mahonie, will have a look!

[bodhi555]

So I had a lesson this evening, and asked my coach about my putting woes. Looks like it was suffering the same ailment as the rest of my swing, hyperactive wrists meaning under pressure there was no guarantee the putter face was coming through straight. So he showed me a couple of things to try - one was my usual cack handed grip but with the hands further apart (they were pretty much opposite each other on the grip initially), the other was the phenomenon known as The Claw, and after a couple of putts figuring out what the hell I was doing, started holing everything...

 

Also made a small change to my Driver swing (opened my left foot so I can turn better) which worked wonders, and started working on a shot trajectory other than "in to orbit". Bit more work to do there as I need to resist my natural tendency to flick the wrists on the way through, but seeing good signs already.

 

But the main one for me was The Claw, so to turn this post from a confessional to something more blade related, what do we think folks? Is combining The Claw with a Wilson 8802 copy worth doing, or just completely bonkers?

 

 

[mahonie]

So I had a lesson this evening, and asked my coach about my putting woes. Looks like it was suffering the same ailment as the rest of my swing, hyperactive wrists meaning under pressure there was no guarantee the putter face was coming through straight. So he showed me a couple of things to try - one was my usual cack handed grip but with the hands further apart (they were pretty much opposite each other on the grip initially), the other was the phenomenon known as The Claw, and after a couple of putts figuring out what the hell I was doing, started holing everything...

 

Also made a small change to my Driver swing (opened my left foot so I can turn better) which worked wonders, and started working on a shot trajectory other than "in to orbit". Bit more work to do there as I need to resist my natural tendency to flick the wrists on the way through, but seeing good signs already.

 

But the main one for me was The Claw, so to turn this post from a confessional to something more blade related, what do we think folks? Is combining The Claw with a Wilson 8802 copy worth doing, or just completely bonkers?

 

Seems to work ok for Philly Mick...although granted he does seem to have #9-type putter these days rather than your slimmer 8802.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

I'd say the Claw grip with a Wilson 8802-type putter is probably breaking some sort of golfing aesthetic, but if it complies with the cardinal rule of "whatever works for you" then I say stick with it.

But it does feel a bit like playing a set of blades from 3i to 9i then putting in a SGI pitching wedge.... :taunt:

[DeNinny]

Ok so in case you guys are wondering how the Miura black boron holds up, here are pics of my Porn Stars after about six rounds and four medium sized range buckets.

 

Here is the PW face which has the most use out of all the clubs:

 

 

Here is the 5i face which LOL I'm hitting well so I will share a close up of it:

 

 

Here are the faces with 2i at the bottom and so forth up the set:

 

 

Here are the faces with 60* at the top and so forth down:

 

 

And here's just a little more vanilla and chocolate for Doaner84:

 

 

[Sir edward of putternut]

I'd say the Claw grip with a Wilson 8802-type putter is probably breaking some sort of golfing aesthetic, but if it complies with the cardinal rule of "whatever works for you" then I say stick with it.

But it does feel a bit like playing a set of blades from 3i to 9i then putting in a SGI pitching wedge.... :taunt:

Love the wilson 8802 putter by the way...i know it might be blasphemous, outside this group at least, but ill take that over a scotty any day....the feel is just perfect and it is literally point and shoot...im gaming mine more and more and am in the verge of selling everything else.

Just played with mp 29s for first full round. Shot 2 over. Used the 2 iron off the tee on a 548 yard hole and parred it. Lucky par on first as i forgot lofts were basically a club short. Had my best day out of the box in a while...found the fairway on all but 2 holes and was longer than ive been in a while...weird, but ive been using the medicus lately and it seemed to really, really help me draw the ball..god, i didnt want to stop. Course waz empty, in great shape, and greens were fuzzy and readable so ball just seemed to stop right at hole. Playing 29s again tomorrow...so excited might not sleep.

[Sir edward of putternut]

Ok so in case you guys are wondering how the Miura black boron holds up, here are pics of my Porn Stars after about six rounds and four medium sized range buckets.

 

Here is the PW face which has the most use out of all the clubs:

 

 

Here is the 5i face which LOL I'm hitting well so I will share a close up of it:

 

 

Here are the faces with 2i at the bottom and so forth up the set:

 

 

Here are the faces with 60* at the top and so forth down:

 

 

And here's just a little more vanilla and chocolate for Doaner84:

 

 

 

Is there no offset?

 

I was reading today mp 29s had positive offset or something...is that true

[DeNinny]

Is there no offset?

 

I was reading today mp 29s had positive offset or something...is that true

 

I don't know about the mp29s. Here are the BB specs with offset:

 

 

 

The only club of mine that has positive offset is my Y-grind 53* with -0.150". Can't say it makes a difference. I love hitting it as much as my black wedge *53 with normal offset at 0.075".

 

Here is 2i topline but I don't know the offset of it:

 

 

 

Here are the 3i toplines of mp67, Retro TB, and BB:

 

[braincramp52]

I could shave with that 2 iron! That's a awesome set of irons dn

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

Love those toplines. The Retro TB looks great as well.

[DeNinny]

I could shave with that 2 iron! That's a awesome set of irons dn

 

Thanks and yeah that's why I call her 'Katana'. My ninja sword.

 

I put everything I have in mind and soul into the set. I love it and I would not change one thing in the BB design and anything in my Porn Star set as well. It is a very special set.

[Christen_The_Sloop]

Is there no offset?

 

I was reading today mp 29s had positive offset or something...is that true

 

I don't know about the mp29s. Here are the BB specs with offset:

 

 

 

The only club of mine that has positive offset is my Y-grind 53* with -0.150". Can't say it makes a difference. I love hitting it as much as my black wedge *53 with normal offset at 0.075".

 

Here is 2i topline but I don't know the offset of it:

 

 

 

Here are the 3i toplines of mp67, Retro TB, and BB:

 

Nice upskirt.

[bervin]

Ok so in case you guys are wondering how the Miura black boron holds up, here are pics of my Porn Stars after about six rounds and four medium sized range buckets.

 

Here is the PW face which has the most use out of all the clubs:

 

 

Here is the 5i face which LOL I'm hitting well so I will share a close up of it:

 

 

Here are the faces with 2i at the bottom and so forth up the set:

 

 

Here are the faces with 60* at the top and so forth down:

 

 

And here's just a little more vanilla and chocolate for Doaner84:

 

 

DeNinny, these sticks are so dope man. I'm incredibly jealous, lol. When I get my black pearls in, I'll post some pics so you can see what the poor man's version of your babies look like!

[Kingcat990]

I like how the 2i top line is thinner than that ⅛" grout line in the tile :D "perspective"

[DeNinny]

DeNinny, these sticks are so dope man. I'm incredibly jealous, lol. When I get my black pearls in, I'll post some pics so you can see what the poor man's version of your babies look like!

 

Thx bervin and yeah I love how those BP CG1s look. Really beautiful clubs and yes please don't hesitate to share pics. I will oogle another man's blades without shame and man black ox CG1s are one sexy MFing blade. BadWord not allowed. I still remember holding them when they just came out and it was at a Golf Galaxy. LOL back when they were their own store and when you could still buy blades in a big name golf store. My how times have changed.

 

I like how the 2i top line is thinner than that ⅛" grout line in the tile :D "perspective"

 

She's tight alright. Like a coin slot.

[Bigmean]

I forget who here said that you find the COG with your irons when I talked about toe missing on the staffs which I rarely do in general, but in general is Blades and my small blades. Seeing deninny's inside marks made me think of that. Mine look similar, but with more hosel wear....

 

What is the black boron finish and where did you have them done? How is it different from black ox?

[DeNinny]

I forget who here said that you find the COG with your irons when I talked about toe missing on the staffs which I rarely do in general, but in general is Blades and my small blades. Seeing deninny's inside marks made me think of that. Mine look similar, but with more hosel wear....

 

What is the black boron finish and where did you have them done? How is it different from black ox?

 

Biggie I have challenged the notion before and I still say with a blade that CG location is secondary and that you can simply hit a blade anywhere along the muscle and it will be OK (...big caveat here ->) provided that you can hold the face square at impact. And it is simply easier on the hands per the torque equation (T = force x distance) to hit the ball as close to the hosel as possible without hitting it. Regardless of CG location, the physics and math behind it supports all this. So yeah I'm not surprised at your findings with your BBs being worn at the hosel and yeah my (preliminary) wear marks indicate this too.

 

Also I will say again that I have hit my BBs out at the toe with half the ball off the grooves and the results aren't that penal. It feels like a toe hit for sure but result is acceptable.

 

So with a blade in particular I'm not so sure that CG location defines the sweetspot. Not saying it isn't important in a head design at all and that it doesn't play a role at all, but I am saying that a good strike along the blade muscle doesn't need to be defined by its CG location alone.

 

I know others may be up in arms about me posting this, but I challenge anyone to provide the theoretical refutation about how it is NOT theoretically sound to just hit the ball as close to the hosel on the face without actually hitting it. CG location does NOT come into the math equations behind any of this so therefore it is not a primary variable. (And yes I understand the concept of center of percussion vs center of gravity.)

 

Biggie you can get the black boron finish ordered as such new from Miura direct. I don't think they do it retroactively. I'm not sure if the process is 100% the same as black oxide, but I'm guessing it is similar but there is boron added to the process because it helps make the oxide layer last longer somehow.

[Bigmean]

Did you buy them in black boron that was done from Miura? I thought it was a refinished set is why I asked...if that is from factory then it will be a nice finish. That is sick though if factory!!!! Black finishes non factory suck, or better yet, I suck at luck with them.

 

Clubs have a balance point, and as I understand it, that is the sweet spot. There is a pin sized sweet spot that will create the least amount of vibration if nailed there. I don't think this is really up for debate, I am not sure if I misunderstood what you said about it though or if there is more science that is not so simple that creates other factors or whatever..but I always thought a balance point (is this same as cog?) was the sweet spot.

 

I think you are highly romanticizing blades with the "half ball off groves of toe and results are not that penial and acceptable"???? Even if we didn't have the same clubs, I am not sure what acceptable is but half off the grooves on my Wilson staffs and I am pretty sure any iron not a chip or pitch is not making the green if I clubbed it correctly to begin with. I think you meant more like ball on toe end of grooves, but half a ball outside is going to send a 170 club 145 and hurts my back to think about, which is only acceptable because I accept that am the problem when that happens.

[Christen_The_Sloop]

Just received a nice little package in the mail today. And another came by a few days before. I got another set of MT Tourney R58 (Japan Model). These one's are immaculate and they have FM 6.5s and I can't stand the 6.5 either. If I put any effort into it, it goes left.

 

Last night was the first range session in forever. With a 5 month old and wife at home and vacation plans this summer. It's been a grind. I have no time to play, and so I just don't have much will to practice. Still, I hit the ball alright. But, there's a scummy, scuzzy over the top move that has crept into my irons where I shut the face and it goes left of left. Strangely, it's mostly with the short irons. I switched between the R58 and DP30s and a Tourstage CB. I just seem to be more consistent with TTDG shafts.

 

The second package (actually a letter pack)... Daiwa Advisor DG8201 heads. 3-PW The designer must have had something against the toe, because it's non existent. Maybe the sharpest, boxiest toe out there. They are tiny. They have nice straight toplines. Just no-nonsense. Question is, which shaft?

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

C_T_L

With the FM 6.5s, going left wasn't a problem I had. Sure it's not your over the top move that's causing it?

 

And I did a GIS for the Daiwa Advisors. I see what you mean about no toe, especially in the short irons. Nice looking club, though. What's the offset like in the short irons?

[Bigmean]

Love the R58s. What a great iron.

[Christen_The_Sloop]

C_T_L

With the FM 6.5s, going left wasn't a problem I had. Sure it's not your over the top move that's causing it?

 

And I did a GIS for the Daiwa Advisors. I see what you mean about no toe, especially in the short irons. Nice looking club, though. What's the offset like in the short irons?

 

I`ll pull`em out when the wife goes to sleep. If my short term memory serves me there`s not much. Only had a few minutes to look at them. Their toe looks a lot like Mizuno MS 1 or 3. I actually really dig it. There was another thread about boxy toes, got me wanting a set like that again. I think, when I want something first class, I`ll go YORO, but these one`s tick my boxes for classics = rare, clean and simple. And they cost less than a bottle of sake, so I`ve got that going for me.

[Doaner84]

Ok so in case you guys are wondering how the Miura black boron holds up, here are pics of my Porn Stars after about six rounds and four medium sized range buckets.

 

Here is the PW face which has the most use out of all the clubs:

 

 

Here is the 5i face which LOL I'm hitting well so I will share a close up of it:

 

 

Here are the faces with 2i at the bottom and so forth up the set:

 

 

Here are the faces with 60* at the top and so forth down:

 

 

And here's just a little more vanilla and chocolate for Doaner84:

 

 

I can feel the love...Had to change scrubs three times...ebony and ivory!!!!

[Nard_S]

I forget who here said that you find the COG with your irons when I talked about toe missing on the staffs which I rarely do in general, but in general is Blades and my small blades. Seeing deninny's inside marks made me think of that. Mine look similar, but with more hosel wear....

 

What is the black boron finish and where did you have them done? How is it different from black ox?

 

I suggested it

 

I came to believe many years ago that sooner or later your swing will find the COG of a club . Over the past year of hoeing and trying out new acquisitions that belief was re-affirmed in very little time. It is not necessarily the sweet spot but it is the bias where your wear marks ill be.

 

The first irons that got me thinking on this was Top-Flite Tours, the ones with the "power bar" that graduate out as irons got longer Two things I noticed, wear matched position over time and really of more consequence, the Ram Pro-Set I was using prior to Top Flites had wear heel side but,after switch to Top Flites, wear was center to outer

 

Fast forward 15 years, Hogan's generally had wear heel side, give my new FG's a spin,within minutes nailing dead center on new head,later give 681's a spin, dead center on new head, Go right back to Hogan's, heel side.

 

That is how arrived at my conclusion. can one hit heel side on a center or outer weighted club? Sure. But on a minute level there will be a bias to overcome.

 

Default weighting on old school blades is heel side Why? Because having the COG closer to shaft gives the club more nuance in face control for skilled hands to work a balata ball when the game was about control of shot.See Hogan Precisions. More modern blades go dead center for added ease but less nuance which is instep with modern ball and the "straighter and higher" theocracy of today.

 

You often hear 'I can work my GI', yeah but then again I can go canyon carving with a Honda Goldwing or I can go with a Ducatti. One will be more comfortable, the othe more adept to turning into the apex.

[No_Catchy_Nickname]

C_T_L

With the FM 6.5s, going left wasn't a problem I had. Sure it's not your over the top move that's causing it?

 

And I did a GIS for the Daiwa Advisors. I see what you mean about no toe, especially in the short irons. Nice looking club, though. What's the offset like in the short irons?

 

I`ll pull`em out when the wife goes to sleep. If my short term memory serves me there`s not much. Only had a few minutes to look at them. Their toe looks a lot like Mizuno MS 1 or 3. I actually really dig it. There was another thread about boxy toes, got me wanting a set like that again. I think, when I want something first class, I`ll go YORO, but these one`s tick my boxes for classics = rare, clean and simple. And they cost less than a bottle of sake, so I`ve got that going for me.

 

So around 2,000 yen? Good price, even if just for heads (assuming they are in decent condition). Got a set of shafts for them?

[bodhi555]

I'd say the Claw grip with a Wilson 8802-type putter is probably breaking some sort of golfing aesthetic, but if it complies with the cardinal rule of "whatever works for you" then I say stick with it.

But it does feel a bit like playing a set of blades from 3i to 9i then putting in a SGI pitching wedge.... :taunt:

 

This was my concern, having one of the harder to use putters out there and making it easier with The Claw, but as mahonie said, if it's good enough for Phil, that's good enough for me. I do have a #9 and a Scotty Newport to experiment with as well, it's going to be tough to drop the 8802 though.

 

Just been rolling a few on the carpet, and I gotta admit, for short putts I am converted. Over 6 or 7 feet I will probably stay with "left below right", but my stroke on short ones is 100x smoother with this.