Driver Iron Experience?

CBECH22 · August 24, 2015

Anyone have any experience with a driving iron? Played the toughest course in town the other day and hit 29% of the fairways. On average I hit under 50% of the fairways, which is a problem. I can hit the fair almost every single time with my 5 iron, but its not long enough to play most par 4's. This is why i ask does anyone have experience with a driving iron? Are they easy or hard to hit? I only play 13 clubs and I am debating if i should pick up a random 3 or 4 iron or try a driving iron to help accuracy?

Exactice808 · August 24, 2015

My $0.02

While I have a 2iron in another bag and I used it quite a bit, the merits of a driver and being consistent out weigh the benefits of a Driving Iron.....(Personal opinion)

Unless your courses are 6500 yards or less and extremely tight fairways, I cant see so many merits as it seems to me a self imposed handicap.

I was a horrible and I mean horrible driver of the ball probably averaged about 25% in the Fairway, I worked extremely hard on getting setup in the driver (Correct swing and actually driver specs) and now I am probably near 55-60% fairways, this has really made the game much easier, in addition to getting the length gives me an advantage to use scoring irons into the green.

While I feel my irons game is strong, nothing compares if you had to choose a 9iron into a green versus a 5 iron into the green.

So I really really like my Driving Iron, but it was more for show than anything, how nice it is to tell people I can stripe a 2 iron down the fairway 220 yards, but leave me 170 yards and a 6 or 5iron to the green and I am guessing if I can hit it or not. Versus working hard on getting the driver to work and having a GW or a PW into the green and feeling very confident to hitting that 15ft circle around the pin......

TL ; DR

Course layout should dictate club selections........ But Its hard to compare a 250+ yard driver giving you better scoring iron selection versus, 200+ Driving iron and using longer irons, where is your trade off?

Working on your Driver or 3wood can benefit in the long run personally.....

jayman2982 · August 24, 2015

I use a Mp fli hi 2 iron. 19 degrees. I love it off the tee, carry it around 225 and rolls a mile. Its my go to club on 400ish par fours. I am thinking of getting a 5 wood however, more variety for me into par 5's. As for forgiveness, im a pretty decent ball striker so it's easy to hit for me. However, if I do mis hit it I'll lose 30 yards.

square · August 24, 2015

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Anyone have any experience with a driving iron? Played the toughest course in town the other day and hit 29% of the fairways. On average I hit under 50% of the fairways, which is a problem. I can hit the fair almost every single time with my 5 iron, but its not long enough to play most par 4's. This is why i ask does anyone have experience with a driving iron? Are they easy or hard to hit? I only play 13 clubs and I am debating if i should pick up a random 3 or 4 iron or try a driving iron to help accuracy?
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Have you tried playing your 3 wood and, or, 5 wood off of tee boxes ?

CBECH22 · August 24, 2015

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[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440450611' post='12200932']
Anyone have any experience with a driving iron? Played the toughest course in town the other day and hit 29% of the fairways. On average I hit under 50% of the fairways, which is a problem. I can hit the fair almost every single time with my 5 iron, but its not long enough to play most par 4's. This is why i ask does anyone have experience with a driving iron? Are they easy or hard to hit? I only play 13 clubs and I am debating if i should pick up a random 3 or 4 iron or try a driving iron to help accuracy?
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Have you tried playing your 3 wood and, or, 5 wood off of tee boxes ?
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Yes, i have used both of them off the tee and the csn produce good results. I do tend to snap hook my woods more than anything though. But my 5 iron is money every time. Thats why i was wondering about a driving iron to fill the gap between my 5 wood and 5 irons. Theres about a 30 yard gap of the tee.

CBECH22 · August 24, 2015

[quote name='Exactice808' timestamp='1440454312' post='12201294']
My $0.02

While I have a 2iron in another bag and I used it quite a bit, the merits of a driver and being consistent out weigh the benefits of a Driving Iron.....(Personal opinion)

Unless your courses are 6500 yards or less and extremely tight fairways, I cant see so many merits as it seems to me a self imposed handicap.

I was a horrible and I mean horrible driver of the ball probably averaged about 25% in the Fairway, I worked extremely hard on getting setup in the driver (Correct swing and actually driver specs) and now I am probably near 55-60% fairways, this has really made the game much easier, in addition to getting the length gives me an advantage to use scoring irons into the green.

While I feel my irons game is strong, nothing compares if you had to choose a 9iron into a green versus a 5 iron into the green.

So I really really like my Driving Iron, but it was more for show than anything, how nice it is to tell people I can stripe a 2 iron down the fairway 220 yards, but leave me 170 yards and a 6 or 5iron to the green and I am guessing if I can hit it or not. Versus working hard on getting the driver to work and having a GW or a PW into the green and feeling very confident to hitting that 15ft circle around the pin......

TL ; DR

Course layout should dictate club selections........ But Its hard to compare a 250+ yard driver giving you better scoring iron selection versus, 200+ Driving iron and using longer irons, where is your trade off?

Working on your Driver or 3wood can benefit in the long run personally.....
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Makes sense. I do play my 3 wood and 5 wood off the tee and theyre a tad bit more acurate than my driver as my only miss is a snap hook with the woods. Where my driver can go either way. But theres about a 30 yard gap or more between my 5 iron and 5 wood. Which i was looking to fill with a driving iron. But maybe a 3 iron or 4 iron might be better?

square · August 24, 2015

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[quote name='square' timestamp='1440454714' post='12201334']
[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440450611' post='12200932']
Anyone have any experience with a driving iron? Played the toughest course in town the other day and hit 29% of the fairways. On average I hit under 50% of the fairways, which is a problem. I can hit the fair almost every single time with my 5 iron, but its not long enough to play most par 4's. This is why i ask does anyone have experience with a driving iron? Are they easy or hard to hit? I only play 13 clubs and I am debating if i should pick up a random 3 or 4 iron or try a driving iron to help accuracy?
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Have you tried playing your 3 wood and, or, 5 wood off of tee boxes ?
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Yes, i have used both of them off the tee and the csn produce good results. I do tend to snap hook my woods more than anything though. But my 5 iron is money every time. Thats why i was wondering about a driving iron to fill the gap between my 5 wood and 5 irons. Theres about a 30 yard gap of the tee.
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More so than a driving iron, I suggest you first try a hybrid in the 22* to 23* loft range. This will bridge the gap between your 5 iron and 5 wood, and it may be easier for you to get consistently good tee box results with than would a driving iron. Also, the hybrid will be more versatile, easier to play shots with from the fairway or rough than would be a driving iron.

harmoor72 · August 24, 2015

I like alot of the suggestions above and will add one more that can be tried relatively cheap.....Ping Eye 2 long iron. My buddy uses a 2 iron and I tee off using the 3 iron sometimes and those clubs are really easy to hit!

Exactice808 · August 24, 2015

OP responding to your actual post.

1) You stated you played the hardest course in your area, As a 7 Handicap is no shame to feel like you had a hard time. Hell I am an 11 and easy course or hard course I struggle
2) You hit it under 50% of the time, Do you have a specific miss? (You stated hook is it only a hook? or a 2 way miss)
3) Does your driver really fit you? I had a fitting for the first time in my life and the fitter told me to dump my whole setup and start over. What was good 6months ago for me is no good now due to my improvements on my swing and the way I swing. Heavier shaft, Lighter shaft etc..... might be time to check in for a fitting to validate.

Ok Now 5 iron is a huge gap to be trying to come off the tee unless it is a 90* dogleg right or left and you need to lay up to a 200 or less shot..... (sorry I only hit my 5iron, 180max)

For me personally after working extremely hard on my driver (To hit is consistently and have a 1 way miss) I am confident teeing off with any other club, 3 wood, 3iron etc.

For my Set up I go Driver, 3 wood and straight to a 3 iron, While there is a pretty huge gap between, this is what works best for me and keeps me from doing stupid things. I max out my 3iron around 200-210, while my 3 wood is anywhere between 230+, Thats a decent 30 yard gap but keeps me from charging holes that are dangerous and taking needless risks.

So you Stopping at a 5 iron is fine since you have a 3wood and a 5wood. Those gaps should be decent, If want to fill in a gap with a driving iron that is fine, but I would seriously consider it to fill in the GAPS and not to only rely off the tee. You have the Driver, Its like having NOS in your car.....It can be dangerous it can be volatile, but if you use it properly and use it at the right time it can be very effective. Those without it are not giving themselves that extra boost when they could easily and freely do so!

Someone mention a hybrid and that is my second go to with my current back, When I know I really need that extra distance at the top of the bag I will pull my 3 iron for a 3hybrid and it works well of the tee, the rough, the fairway.....very versatile.

So if you want that "Iron esque" of the tee, Try a hybrid as it can still be versatile like an iron but not as bulky as your 5wood.

*Edit*, I noticed you have the Nike Covert 2.0. What is the setup now?

Reason is I had the Covert 1.0 Tour Stock Kuro Kage X flex set to 8.5N This setup no matter how I played with it was a slice machine.... just could not get that thing to go left.

I am not sitting with a 910D2 Black tie Stiff Flex. Heavier Shaft, with a draw bias and this thing is money for me. I can actually say now I have more fairways with it these last 3 months since I got it compared to 2 years of playing with the Nike. I am not Knocking Nike, but since you dont show your spec setup it might be something simple like a shaft change (Weight & Flex) or a face angle and setup correct......

Dont lose hope, but lets face it...... Do we know any pro that has dropped their driver and stayed on tour?...... Why reinvent the wheel???

CBECH22 · August 24, 2015

To Exactice:

I appreciate all your input. I only bag 13 clubs so i was looking at this driving iron to stick in my bag as the 14th club. That way i have it if i need it, but i could never drop my driver. I just wanted something to hit off the tee that i feel confident with hitting straight. With my driver i do miss both ways. I love my nike covert 2.0, i just started hitting it this year. It is nuch more forgiving than the rocketballz i was hitting early.

But honestly, straight up, the reason i dont put my shafts in my signature is because i have never paid attention to shafts and dont know much about any shafts. The shaft on my covert is all stock and a stiff shaft. I know my swing speed calls for a stiff shaft. I have never hit a quality hybrid. I had some crappy ones that came with my set and never hit those well so i am debating getting a hybrid to try.

But i did go back to my parents house today ad saw some old clubs my brother used to hit, some old cavity back titleist irons and theres a 2 iron sitting in my basement. I am thinking i am going to bag that and just use it off the tee if i find it necessary. Ill hit up the range tomorrow and see how i can hit it. It might be perfect to fill the void

Chilidog · August 25, 2015

When you have to hit a fairway, put a 3/4 swing on your driver and try to hit it solid. You'll be surprised how straight it goes and how much spin it knocks off the driver.

CBECH22 · August 25, 2015

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When you have to hit a fairway, put a 3/4 swing on your driver and try to hit it solid. You'll be surprised how straight it goes and how much spin it knocks off the driver.
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Thats one thing i have done too. Slowed my swing down and not tried to smash it. It works for the most part but then i get to a long hole and totally forget to slow my swing down so i try to smash it. haha

KevSher20 · August 25, 2015

7 wood. My fail safe club. About 220 to 230 dead straight.

CBECH22 · August 25, 2015

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7 wood. My fail safe club. About 220 to 230 dead straight.
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Definitely wanted to give a 7 wood a try too. Just could find a good one for cheap.

jay65 · August 25, 2015

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7 wood. My fail safe club. About 220 to 230 dead straight.
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Really like my 915F 7 wood too. I tend to deloft all my clubs a touch more than ideal at impact, reducing any dynamic loft. So even my 7 Wood goes out like a 3 or 4 wood for most people. But I can get away with it with a 7 wood as opposed to a Driving iron. It does mean that my PW goes like most peoples 8 Iron, and why I have to have 4 wedges in my bag to cover those gaps. But it all works ok, especially on the windy Links Courses that I mostly play on.

But, like you, my 915F 7 Wood is a keeper for a while yet.

KevSher20 · August 25, 2015

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7 wood. My fail safe club. About 220 to 230 dead straight.
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Definitely wanted to give a 7 wood a try too. Just could find a good one for cheap.
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Try eBay. I have a HL 5W Jetspeed at 21 before the 915. Loved it, just wanted newer. Id be willing to part with the TM if your interested.

KevSher20 · August 25, 2015

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[quote name='KevSher20' timestamp='1440481063' post='12203692']
7 wood. My fail safe club. About 220 to 230 dead straight.
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Really like my 915F 7 wood too. I tend to deloft all my clubs a touch more than ideal at impact, reducing any dynamic loft. So even my 7 Wood goes out like a 3 or 4 wood for most people. But I can get away with it with a 7 wood as opposed to a Driving iron. It does mean that my PW goes like most peoples 8 Iron, and why I have to have 4 wedges in my bag to cover those gaps. But it all works ok, especially on the windy Links Courses that I mostly play on.

But, like you, my 915F 7 Wood is a keeper for a while yet.
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Im like you then I guess. When I put some nuts in it I can reach that territory. But I prefer 3/4 swings for normal play. 915 are so easy to hit, anyway you want it. Best woods I've played so far.

TravisG · August 25, 2015

Adams super DHY! I recently picked up a 21 degree and this thing is LONG and STRAIGHT. Great ballflight and goes a long way, with hard fairways getting 240-260 total. (Driver in these conditions 270-300, very little rain here).

4 iron of the tee was getting me 225/230 and I wanted a bit more distance but without losing the control I have with the long irons. This club has fit that criteria perfectly. Can work the ball both ways but not a lot, maybe 5-10 yards either direction. I cannot hit fades with 3 wood so this is the club I needed for medium length par 4s that are straight or to the right.

pitchinwedge · August 25, 2015

[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440450611' post='12200932']
Anyone have any experience with a driving iron? Played the toughest course in town the other day and hit 29% of the fairways. On average I hit under 50% of the fairways, which is a problem. I can hit the fair almost every single time with my 5 iron, but its not long enough to play most par 4's. This is why i ask does anyone have experience with a driving iron? Are they easy or hard to hit? I only play 13 clubs and I am debating if i should pick up a random 3 or 4 iron or try a driving iron to help accuracy?
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FWIW, 100th ranked player on tour finds 61.78% of the fairways on average. That said, hitting one more fairway per round can be +7.2% fairways.

First, make sure you're playing the right set of tees. Second, tee-off with the club that will leave you the most reasonable approach for your swing. This won't always be driver and it most definitely won't always be a driving iron.

Also, you only have 13 clubs... where's the yardage gap in your bag?

Rock Chalk Jayhawk · August 25, 2015

I have a Ping Rapture DI. It is great in windy conditions, and when playing courses wihout a lot of rough. It's no replacement for a Driver, but can easily replace a 5 wood in terms of distance.

chisag · August 25, 2015

... Ever since picking up a DHY, a driving Iron has been in my bag. I use it quite a bit every round. My favorite is the Wilson V4 Utility with a Kuro Kage 90gm shaft. Does everything well including a mid to high trajectory but can also be flirted down if needed. I use it off the tee and from the fairway. However, since it gets very windy in Chicago I also have a Taylor Made UDi that I rotate in on very windy days. It has a lower trajectory with less spin but is more demanding than the V4, so I make that trade off to keep it lower in the wind.

CBECH22 · August 25, 2015

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[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440450611' post='12200932']
Anyone have any experience with a driving iron? Played the toughest course in town the other day and hit 29% of the fairways. On average I hit under 50% of the fairways, which is a problem. I can hit the fair almost every single time with my 5 iron, but its not long enough to play most par 4's. This is why i ask does anyone have experience with a driving iron? Are they easy or hard to hit? I only play 13 clubs and I am debating if i should pick up a random 3 or 4 iron or try a driving iron to help accuracy?
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FWIW, 100th ranked player on tour finds 61.78% of the fairways on average. That said, hitting one more fairway per round can be +7.2% fairways.

First, make sure you're playing the right set of tees. Second, tee-off with the club that will leave you the most reasonable approach for your swing. This won't always be driver and it most definitely won't always be a driving iron.

Also, you only have 13 clubs... where's the yardage gap in your bag?
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Distance gap is between my 5 wood and 5 iron. Which i thought a driving iron might fit will between there if i ever needed it. Something thats longer than my 5 iron but easier to hit than my 5 wood.

Exactice808 · August 25, 2015

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[quote name='pitchinwedge' timestamp='1440523714' post='12206228']
[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440450611' post='12200932']
Anyone have any experience with a driving iron? Played the toughest course in town the other day and hit 29% of the fairways. On average I hit under 50% of the fairways, which is a problem. I can hit the fair almost every single time with my 5 iron, but its not long enough to play most par 4's. This is why i ask does anyone have experience with a driving iron? Are they easy or hard to hit? I only play 13 clubs and I am debating if i should pick up a random 3 or 4 iron or try a driving iron to help accuracy?
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FWIW, 100th ranked player on tour finds 61.78% of the fairways on average. That said, hitting one more fairway per round can be +7.2% fairways.

First, make sure you're playing the right set of tees. Second, tee-off with the club that will leave you the most reasonable approach for your swing. This won't always be driver and it most definitely won't always be a driving iron.

Also, you only have 13 clubs... where's the yardage gap in your bag?
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Distance gap is between my 5 wood and 5 iron. Which i thought a driving iron might fit will between there if i ever needed it. Something thats longer than my 5 iron but easier to hit than my 5 wood.
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Not being a smart a** but you said it, a 4 iron or a hybrid. Personally I love irons over woods and hybrids hence the 3-PW setup and only the 3 wood.

Anyways side note..... Going back to shafts that we talked about earlier. I personally feel once you get your natural swing going and as a 7 Handicap I am sure you got it going, Shaft pairing is essential to consistency.

You stated you do not know much about shafts if you have not gotten a true fitting, It may totally be worth it. If the weight of the shaft does not match your swing tempo, this may cause more issues than just finding gapping.

My friend has a set of graphite 55gram R7 irons, He hits them ok, but they just didnt seem right for his swing tempo. I gave him my back up set of Steel 117 gram JPX's and now, would you believe with an iron that weighs 62 grams more per shaft, he hits it straighter and more consistent and guess what? He actually gained 5 more yards of distance. With a heavier iron, wait what? Wouldnt he lose some club head speed? Probably.... but his efficiency of strike has gone up dramatically because the weight matched his tempo and he delivers the club head much better than he ever did with a 55gram graphite shaft.....

While this was pretty extreme, this was the same for me, moving from a mid 60 gram driver shaft, to a mid 70gram shaft. You should have a look at all your shafts to see if they properly match your tempo and swing transition.

Do you have a quick, medium or slow swing tempo,

Is your Transition, Hard, Deliberate, or Slow,

Matching the shafts make a HUGE difference in my opinion!

The price of a Driving Iron, could be used more efficiently by getting a fitting, then finding a cheap driver shaft on the bay or BST that matches your swing .........

CBECH22 · August 25, 2015

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[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440537047' post='12207626']
[quote name='pitchinwedge' timestamp='1440523714' post='12206228']
[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440450611' post='12200932']
Anyone have any experience with a driving iron? Played the toughest course in town the other day and hit 29% of the fairways. On average I hit under 50% of the fairways, which is a problem. I can hit the fair almost every single time with my 5 iron, but its not long enough to play most par 4's. This is why i ask does anyone have experience with a driving iron? Are they easy or hard to hit? I only play 13 clubs and I am debating if i should pick up a random 3 or 4 iron or try a driving iron to help accuracy?
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FWIW, 100th ranked player on tour finds 61.78% of the fairways on average. That said, hitting one more fairway per round can be +7.2% fairways.

First, make sure you're playing the right set of tees. Second, tee-off with the club that will leave you the most reasonable approach for your swing. This won't always be driver and it most definitely won't always be a driving iron.

Also, you only have 13 clubs... where's the yardage gap in your bag?
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Distance gap is between my 5 wood and 5 iron. Which i thought a driving iron might fit will between there if i ever needed it. Something thats longer than my 5 iron but easier to hit than my 5 wood.
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Not being a smart a** but you said it, a 4 iron or a hybrid. Personally I love irons over woods and hybrids hence the 3-PW setup and only the 3 wood.

Anyways side note..... Going back to shafts that we talked about earlier. I personally feel once you get your natural swing going and as a 7 Handicap I am sure you got it going, Shaft pairing is essential to consistency.

You stated you do not know much about shafts if you have not gotten a true fitting, It may totally be worth it. If the weight of the shaft does not match your swing tempo, this may cause more issues than just finding gapping.

My friend has a set of graphite 55gram R7 irons, He hits them ok, but they just didnt seem right for his swing tempo. I gave him my back up set of Steel 117 gram JPX's and now, would you believe with an iron that weighs 62 grams more per shaft, he hits it straighter and more consistent and guess what? He actually gained 5 more yards of distance. With a heavier iron, wait what? Wouldnt he lose some club head speed? Probably.... but his efficiency of strike has gone up dramatically because the weight matched his tempo and he delivers the club head much better than he ever did with a 55gram graphite shaft.....

While this was pretty extreme, this was the same for me, moving from a mid 60 gram driver shaft, to a mid 70gram shaft. You should have a look at all your shafts to see if they properly match your tempo and swing transition.

Do you have a quick, medium or slow swing tempo,

Is your Transition, Hard, Deliberate, or Slow,

Matching the shafts make a HUGE difference in my opinion!

The price of a Driving Iron, could be used more efficiently by getting a fitting, then finding a cheap driver shaft on the bay or BST that matches your swing .........
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I would love to get a new set up irons that are fit to me and get my driver fit to me, but the one problem i have is money. Haha going to school and working part time doesnt allow me to get fit. Which is ok, i just have to use what i have because i love this game.

But that is one problem i have is hitting it consistently. One day ill be spraying right and the next day ill be spraying left. I never really took shafts into consideration until i joined this site and saw all the talk about them and didnt know they were that important. But to answer your question i have a quick swing.

My shaft in my covert is a kuro kage 50g stiff flex
My woods, and irons i have zero idea of them because they are some off brand Square Two Clubs that my dad bought me about 10 years ago. but i know they are regular flex.
my wedges have a true temper shafts.

Exactice808 · August 25, 2015

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I would love to get a new set up irons that are fit to me and get my driver fit to me, but the one problem i have is money. Haha going to school and working part time doesnt allow me to get fit. Which is ok, i just have to use what i have because i love this game.

But that is one problem i have is hitting it consistently. One day ill be spraying right and the next day ill be spraying left. I never really took shafts into consideration until i joined this site and saw all the talk about them and didnt know they were that important. But to answer your question i have a quick swing.

My shaft in my covert is a kuro kage 50g stiff flex
My woods, and irons i have zero idea of them because they are some off brand Square Two Clubs that my dad bought me about 10 years ago. but i know they are regular flex.
my wedges have a true temper shafts.
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If you dont mind me pointing you in some directions??

If driver is an issue, there are some really cheap easy alternatives.

First off lets use some general rule of thumbs

1) The Faster your Tempo is the heavier the shafts needs to be. (Of course the opposite the slower your tempo is the lighter the shaft)
2) The Hard Transition you have the Stronger in flex you need. (The opposite if you have a slow or smooth transition, then you need a softer flex)
3) While I am not a big fan of swing speed only, you can judge flex by your general swing speed, 100mph Driver SS, Stiff flex, I use that as the mid point. 90 or below Regular flex 100 or above X flex.

Ok so first of Take a look at your swing, Is your swing tempo Fast? or is it deliberate or slow?

When you look at your transition, Do you swing REALLY hard at the ball or is it smooth?

From the sound of it since a hook is your issue, you are quick so everything is moving faster and the release is quick. A heavier shaft may slow you down and get better timing to limit the amount of hooks you hit.

Now the Nike Covert has been around a while and finding a shaft with the adapter shouldn't be to hard.

Check the BST or Ebay for maybe a 60+gram driver shaft in stiff flex since you already hitting stiff,

The Stock Kuro Kage 60 can probably be had for cheap.

If not just find a reasonable priced 60 gram shaft with a nike adapter for now to testing things. I bet you could find something well under $50 shipped since they are stock or even look at your local stores for a used Nike Driver with the Flex Loft.

Good luck!

Exactice808 · August 25, 2015

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Diamana-blueboard-s-60-STIFF-Flex-Driver-Shaft-With-Nike-Flexloft-Adaptor-/171900941768?hash=item28061835c8
Diamana Blue Board S+ 60

$45

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Project-X-PXV-Stiff-Driver-Shaft-Nike-Covert-FlexLoft-Driver-Tip-/381155552212?hash=item58bea42bd4

Project X PXv - a little ligher though 58grams

$49.99

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitsubishi-Rayon-Diamana-S-60-gram-shaft-Nike-Golf-driver-vapor-covert-2-0-/191672772462?hash=item2ca096676e

Diaman S+ 60

$9.99 starting bid

CBECH22 · August 25, 2015

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[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440538647' post='12207792']
I would love to get a new set up irons that are fit to me and get my driver fit to me, but the one problem i have is money. Haha going to school and working part time doesnt allow me to get fit. Which is ok, i just have to use what i have because i love this game.

But that is one problem i have is hitting it consistently. One day ill be spraying right and the next day ill be spraying left. I never really took shafts into consideration until i joined this site and saw all the talk about them and didnt know they were that important. But to answer your question i have a quick swing.

My shaft in my covert is a kuro kage 50g stiff flex
My woods, and irons i have zero idea of them because they are some off brand Square Two Clubs that my dad bought me about 10 years ago. but i know they are regular flex.
my wedges have a true temper shafts.
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If you dont mind me pointing you in some directions??

If driver is an issue, there are some really cheap easy alternatives.

First off lets use some general rule of thumbs

1) The Faster your Tempo is the heavier the shafts needs to be. (Of course the opposite the slower your tempo is the lighter the shaft)
2) The Hard Transition you have the Stronger in flex you need. (The opposite if you have a slow or smooth transition, then you need a softer flex)
3) While I am not a big fan of swing speed only, you can judge flex by your general swing speed, 100mph Driver SS, Stiff flex, I use that as the mid point. 90 or below Regular flex 100 or above X flex.

Ok so first of Take a look at your swing, Is your swing tempo Fast? or is it deliberate or slow?

When you look at your transition, Do you swing REALLY hard at the ball or is it smooth?

From the sound of it since a hook is your issue, you are quick so everything is moving faster and the release is quick. A heavier shaft may slow you down and get better timing to limit the amount of hooks you hit.

Now the Nike Covert has been around a while and finding a shaft with the adapter shouldn't be to hard.

Check the BST or Ebay for maybe a 60+gram driver shaft in stiff flex since you already hitting stiff,

The Stock Kuro Kage 60 can probably be had for cheap.

If not just find a reasonable priced 60 gram shaft with a nike adapter for now to testing things. I bet you could find something well under $50 shipped since they are stock or even look at your local stores for a used Nike Driver with the Flex Loft.

Good luck!
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I really appreciate all the information you have given me! I didnt know a shaft could change so much in my swing. And the information you have given me has really helped. I do have a quick take off and quick transition. I do swing hard almost all the time so mostly everything about my swing is quick. But thank you for all the info, i will look into getting different shafts and how that can change my game.

Thanks!

Exactice808 · August 25, 2015

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[quote name='Exactice808' timestamp='1440539780' post='12207882']
[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440538647' post='12207792']
I would love to get a new set up irons that are fit to me and get my driver fit to me, but the one problem i have is money. Haha going to school and working part time doesnt allow me to get fit. Which is ok, i just have to use what i have because i love this game.

But that is one problem i have is hitting it consistently. One day ill be spraying right and the next day ill be spraying left. I never really took shafts into consideration until i joined this site and saw all the talk about them and didnt know they were that important. But to answer your question i have a quick swing.

My shaft in my covert is a kuro kage 50g stiff flex
My woods, and irons i have zero idea of them because they are some off brand Square Two Clubs that my dad bought me about 10 years ago. but i know they are regular flex.
my wedges have a true temper shafts.
[/quote]

If you dont mind me pointing you in some directions??

If driver is an issue, there are some really cheap easy alternatives.

First off lets use some general rule of thumbs

1) The Faster your Tempo is the heavier the shafts needs to be. (Of course the opposite the slower your tempo is the lighter the shaft)
2) The Hard Transition you have the Stronger in flex you need. (The opposite if you have a slow or smooth transition, then you need a softer flex)
3) While I am not a big fan of swing speed only, you can judge flex by your general swing speed, 100mph Driver SS, Stiff flex, I use that as the mid point. 90 or below Regular flex 100 or above X flex.

Ok so first of Take a look at your swing, Is your swing tempo Fast? or is it deliberate or slow?

When you look at your transition, Do you swing REALLY hard at the ball or is it smooth?

From the sound of it since a hook is your issue, you are quick so everything is moving faster and the release is quick. A heavier shaft may slow you down and get better timing to limit the amount of hooks you hit.

Now the Nike Covert has been around a while and finding a shaft with the adapter shouldn't be to hard.

Check the BST or Ebay for maybe a 60+gram driver shaft in stiff flex since you already hitting stiff,

The Stock Kuro Kage 60 can probably be had for cheap.

If not just find a reasonable priced 60 gram shaft with a nike adapter for now to testing things. I bet you could find something well under $50 shipped since they are stock or even look at your local stores for a used Nike Driver with the Flex Loft.

Good luck!
[/quote]

I really appreciate all the information you have given me! I didnt know a shaft could change so much in my swing. And the information you have given me has really helped. I do have a quick take off and quick transition. I do swing hard almost all the time so mostly everything about my swing is quick. But thank you for all the info, i will look into getting different shafts and how that can change my game.

Thanks!
[/quote]

It is my pleasure, seriously it has help my driving tremendously.

Again while I am some random dude on the net.... I hope it points you in the right direction. I think a 65+ gram shaft for you would be a premium. From the sound of it I have a similar swing and I am swinging a 72 gram shaft.

The Matrix Black Tie that I have is said to be a very very stout shaft.... but it feels right for me..... So it takes some time and some guessing.

Again.... There may be a lot of shaft pulls or old drivers sitting around, check the used bins, craiglist, BST and Ebay, Im sure you could find any kind of shaft just to test and save some money! WAY Cheaper then shelling out $150+ for a driving Iron.

Imagine, you find a shaft that fits and now you have a bomber driver, you will never have to worry about a gap. From there you can build confidence and slowly work on your irons and woods.

PS.... I hate you LOL! You are a 7 handicap with minimal knowledge, I suck at this game and I have been learning and learning and learning and the best I can do right now is 11.3

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA

CBECH22 · August 25, 2015

[quote name='Exactice808' timestamp='1440540378' post='12207942']
[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440540178' post='12207922']
[quote name='Exactice808' timestamp='1440539780' post='12207882']
[quote name='CBECH22' timestamp='1440538647' post='12207792']
I would love to get a new set up irons that are fit to me and get my driver fit to me, but the one problem i have is money. Haha going to school and working part time doesnt allow me to get fit. Which is ok, i just have to use what i have because i love this game.

But that is one problem i have is hitting it consistently. One day ill be spraying right and the next day ill be spraying left. I never really took shafts into consideration until i joined this site and saw all the talk about them and didnt know they were that important. But to answer your question i have a quick swing.

My shaft in my covert is a kuro kage 50g stiff flex
My woods, and irons i have zero idea of them because they are some off brand Square Two Clubs that my dad bought me about 10 years ago. but i know they are regular flex.
my wedges have a true temper shafts.
[/quote]

If you dont mind me pointing you in some directions??

If driver is an issue, there are some really cheap easy alternatives.

First off lets use some general rule of thumbs

1) The Faster your Tempo is the heavier the shafts needs to be. (Of course the opposite the slower your tempo is the lighter the shaft)
2) The Hard Transition you have the Stronger in flex you need. (The opposite if you have a slow or smooth transition, then you need a softer flex)
3) While I am not a big fan of swing speed only, you can judge flex by your general swing speed, 100mph Driver SS, Stiff flex, I use that as the mid point. 90 or below Regular flex 100 or above X flex.

Ok so first of Take a look at your swing, Is your swing tempo Fast? or is it deliberate or slow?

When you look at your transition, Do you swing REALLY hard at the ball or is it smooth?

From the sound of it since a hook is your issue, you are quick so everything is moving faster and the release is quick. A heavier shaft may slow you down and get better timing to limit the amount of hooks you hit.

Now the Nike Covert has been around a while and finding a shaft with the adapter shouldn't be to hard.

Check the BST or Ebay for maybe a 60+gram driver shaft in stiff flex since you already hitting stiff,

The Stock Kuro Kage 60 can probably be had for cheap.

If not just find a reasonable priced 60 gram shaft with a nike adapter for now to testing things. I bet you could find something well under $50 shipped since they are stock or even look at your local stores for a used Nike Driver with the Flex Loft.

Good luck!
[/quote]

I really appreciate all the information you have given me! I didnt know a shaft could change so much in my swing. And the information you have given me has really helped. I do have a quick take off and quick transition. I do swing hard almost all the time so mostly everything about my swing is quick. But thank you for all the info, i will look into getting different shafts and how that can change my game.

Thanks!
[/quote]

It is my pleasure, seriously it has help my driving tremendously.

Again while I am some random dude on the net.... I hope it points you in the right direction. I think a 65+ gram shaft for you would be a premium. From the sound of it I have a similar swing and I am swinging a 72 gram shaft.

The Matrix Black Tie that I have is said to be a very very stout shaft.... but it feels right for me..... So it takes some time and some guessing.

Again.... There may be a lot of shaft pulls or old drivers sitting around, check the used bins, craiglist, BST and Ebay, Im sure you could find any kind of shaft just to test and save some money! WAY Cheaper then shelling out $150+ for a driving Iron.

Imagine, you find a shaft that fits and now you have a bomber driver, you will never have to worry about a gap. From there you can build confidence and slowly work on your irons and woods.

PS.... I hate you LOL! You are a 7 handicap with minimal knowledge, I suck at this game and I have been learning and learning and learning and the best I can do right now is 11.3

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
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Yeah, I have been playing since I was about 8 with about a 4 year gap in high school and this is only my second summer back in the game. So i have missed a lot about the equipment improvements, especially since i havent had the money to upgrade my irons or woods since i was 12. Haha, but thats why i joined WRX to help get more information about the game from nice and knowledgeable people like you to only improve my game more. A scratch golfer is my goal as of now and I am working hard to get there.