A scratch player against Phil Mickelson with a 700 yard advantage....

[endy]

This is so awesome. Next time you play give me a call haha.

[Pepperturbo]

what is a "FGI Custom Grind"?

 

I feel like I should know this but I just don't. I understand the custom grind part, but what kind of wedge is FGI?

 

I guess the question is what is a FGI wedge?

 

Sorry, I fixed it. They are FGO (For Golfers Only) custom grind wedges by Don Wood. Don was the lead wedge guy for Cleveland back in the 90's, and he opened up his own shop in Temecula back in 2003(?). I've had these since 2004 or so.

 

I am acquainted with Don Wood. Last I heard he left the area. Is he back?

[Obee]

what is a "FGI Custom Grind"?

 

I feel like I should know this but I just don't. I understand the custom grind part, but what kind of wedge is FGI?

 

I guess the question is what is a FGI wedge?

 

Sorry, I fixed it. They are FGO (For Golfers Only) custom grind wedges by Don Wood. Don was the lead wedge guy for Cleveland back in the 90's, and he opened up his own shop in Temecula back in 2003(?). I've had these since 2004 or so.

 

I am acquainted with Don Wood. Last I heard he left the area. Is he back?

 

No, Don has been gone for quite some time. I just have never replaced the wedges he made for me because I like them so much.

[2ball]

What do you think would happen? Would the scratch player stand a chance? What if it's the scratch player's home course and Mickelson has played it only one time previously?

 

Does the scratch player have any hope? If not, how many shots a side should he get from Mickelson to make it fair?

 

Let's say the course is rated 76 from the tees Phil is playing and 72 from the tees the scratch player is playing.

 

Have at it!!

 

(cool)

 

Depends what Phil shows up. Masters Phil or The Frys.com Open Phil

[jli2636]

Very cool story Obee. I can blame you for not getting any work done today ;)

[pattg]

This wouldn't even be close. The 700 yards would be negated after 10 holes and Phils short game would take care of the rest.

 

I watched Phil round my home course last year and have been off scratch twice. Phil knocked it on the green from further back than I've seen anyone hit it on the longest par 5.

 

 

 

 

[PapaJohick]

This wouldn't even be close. The 700 yards would be negated after 10 holes and Phils short game would take care of the rest.

 

I watched Phil round my home course last year and have been off scratch twice. Phil knocked it on the green from further back than I've seen anyone hit it on the longest par 5.

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha

[glcoach]

People not reading the thread and chiming in is priceless. Great thread, great story. Congrats OB, I am more than a bit jealous.

[Forged4ever]

This wouldn't even be close. The 700 yards would be negated after 10 holes and Phils short game would take care of the rest.

 

I watched Phil round my home course last year and have been off scratch twice. Phil knocked it on the green from further back than I've seen anyone hit it on the longest par 5.

LMAO, Bro, I just spit my juice out on myself and I'm trapped in this chair for another hour but it's worth it, lmao

 

Youda Man :)

 

Not to fret, I did the same thing a ways back, lol~

 

FWIW, ya should go back and read it as it's a Great thread!!

 

Stay Well My Friend :)

 

Golfingly Yours,

RP

[Chief Illiniwek]

This wouldn't even be close. The 700 yards would be negated after 10 holes and Phils short game would take care of the rest.

 

I watched Phil round my home course last year and have been off scratch twice. Phil knocked it on the green from further back than I've seen anyone hit it on the longest par 5.

LMAO, Bro, I just spit my juice out on myself and I'm trapped in this chair for another hour buts it's worth it, lmao

 

Youda Man :)

 

Not to fret, I did the same thing a ways back, lol~

 

FWIW, ya should go back and read it as it's a Great thread!!

 

Stay Well My Friend :)

 

Golfingly Yours,

RP

 

Richard you've gotta stop drinking beverages and reading Golfwrx! You spit up on your shirts daily!

[Forged4ever]

This wouldn't even be close. The 700 yards would be negated after 10 holes and Phils short game would take care of the rest.

 

I watched Phil round my home course last year and have been off scratch twice. Phil knocked it on the green from further back than I've seen anyone hit it on the longest par 5.

LMAO, Bro, I just spit my juice out on myself and I'm trapped in this chair for another hour buts it's worth it, lmao

 

Youda Man :)

 

Not to fret, I did the same thing a ways back, lol~

 

FWIW, ya should go back and read it as it's a Great thread!!

 

Stay Well My Friend :)

 

Golfingly Yours,

RP

 

Richard you've gotta stop drinking beverages and reading Golfwrx! You spit up on your shirts daily!

i drink a lot of OJ cuz the radiation dries out my throat and this is the 3-4th time I've done this, lol.

 

Actually, I tried to swallow and some went into my nose

 

That stings, lol

 

Now this Lady across from me is lookin at me like I'm batty, lol

 

You're right however WTF, I didn't expect to read something that funny in Obe's thread, lmao

 

I never take a drink when I see KYM's avatar cuz he's responsible for a few of em, lol

 

All the Best,

RP

 

Later Ed: 01/26/16, 2:28pm-> LMAO, the nurse brought me over a hand towel and she said, "you've got to be more careful. This is becoming a daily event." Oh S***, I'm losing it, lmao RP II

[JumboJack]

I believe on any given day, a scratch player, even 1-2 on a fast running home course like that one, could beat a "+" player, especially if strokes are involved. Golfers at that level might swing as much as 10 strokes in either direction.

 

PS: I read your 18 hole coverage. No doubt it was memorable for you. Thanks for sharing. :clapping:

 

I agree. I see it all the time in SCGA Match Play. + 2' shooting 79, 1's,2's and even 3's shooting 72-74 and winning out right.

[JumboJack]

Ober, always think of you when ever anyone gives me crap for carrying 2-3-4 hybrids (no 5 iron)I'm a 3 and it works for me.

Great read.

[EKELLY]

I'm confused by this. Does Phil not hold a handicap? I mean you say scratch which means 0 or even right? I never heard of these guys carrying a negative handicap which would make them the same "level". Maybe I'm wrong

Ya gotta figure Phil is at least a +5 or better.....LOL

[EKELLY]

This wouldn't even be close. The 700 yards would be negated after 10 holes and Phils short game would take care of the rest.

 

I watched Phil round my home course last year and have been off scratch twice. Phil knocked it on the green from further back than I've seen anyone hit it on the longest par 5.

LOL....I was better than scratch when I lived at Bay Hill. I was a good player on that course. The first time I followed the Tour guys around, (Tiger, Love, Couples, Mickelson, etc), I felt pretty inept at the game of golf.......Television does no justice!!!.........

[jjr]

Thanks for the post Obee! Luckily found this by reading the current, Can you win the Masters from 115 yds. 

[MUNIGRIT]

On 1/23/2016 at 10:13 AM, pattg said:

This wouldn't even be close. The 700 yards would be negated after 10 holes and Phils short game would take care of the rest.

 

I watched Phil round my home course last year and have been off scratch twice. Phil knocked it on the green from further back than I've seen anyone hit it on the longest par 5.

 

 

 

 

Yup that is how I see it. I think he was +5.6 @ the rock last I saw. Rahm is a +9.5 At his home course.

[Duct Tape]

8 hours ago, jjr said:

Thanks for the post Obee! Luckily found this by reading the current, Can you win the Masters from 115 yds. 

Same here. And I was very surprised to see that I was only the third “like” to his main post when he describes his round. 
 

Thanks @Obee  Enjoyed it. 

[jjr]

Obee, I forgot to ask.

Were you and your playing partners back at the tips enjoying the strikes and flights up close?

[straightshot7]

Phil could beat an average “scratch” with a 700 yard disadvantage with just 6-7 clubs. At his current age.

 

in his prime, Phil could play right handed and win 

 

[Obee]

1 hour ago, Duct Tape said:

Same here. And I was very surprised to see that I was only the third “like” to his main post when he describes his round. 
 

Thanks @Obee  Enjoyed it. 

 

All the likes were removed with the re-do of the site. This one got lots of traffic. Was a blast doing it and re-counting it.

[Obee]

1 hour ago, straightshot7 said:

Phil could beat an average “scratch” with a 700 yard disadvantage with just 6-7 clubs. At his current age.

 

in his prime, Phil could play right handed and win 

 

 

Did you even read the thread??? Good lord.

[Obee]

1 hour ago, jjr said:

Obee, I forgot to ask.

Were you and your playing partners back at the tips enjoying the strikes and flights up close?

 

A bit, yes. But really, we were just trying to win. Give us enough strokes and we can. We lost 3 and 2 to them. Held our own and I played very well both times we played them. 72, 71, if I remember correctly. Phil was 71, 71, I think. He was 19th in the world at the time. Rickie shot 66, 68? He was 4th in the world at the time, I think...

[straightshot7]

2 hours ago, Obee said:

 

Did you even read the thread??? Good lord.

Just joking around, didn’t realize this thread was another retelling of your great conquests. 
 

you know I’ve actually played with/vs Rickie twice, I just don’t post about it, until now. 
 

Phil though, I have not. That’s pretty cool!

Edited April 12, 2023 by straightshot7

[AZBRONCFAN]

On 1/4/2016 at 2:25 PM, Obee said:

What do you think would happen? Would the scratch player stand a chance? What if it's the scratch player's home course and Mickelson has played it only one time previously?

 

Does the scratch player have any hope? If not, how many shots a side should he get from Mickelson to make it fair?

 

Let's say the course is rated 76 from the tees Phil is playing and 72 from the tees the scratch player is playing.

 

Have at it!!

 

(cool)

No chance even at Phils age now. Sometimes I wonder what people think scratch means because they act like they are close to making a living on the pro tours. 

[TiScape]

14 minutes ago, AZBRONCFAN said:

No chance even at Phils age now. Sometimes I wonder what people think scratch means because they act like they are close to making a living on the pro tours. 

Just an observation… Are you not the same person that resurrected the ‘LPGA player vs. middle aged scratch or better’ thread after 2 years???
Now this?! lol 

[AZBRONCFAN]

25 minutes ago, TiScape said:

Just an observation… Are you not the same person that resurrected the ‘LPGA player vs. middle aged scratch or better’ thread after 2 years???
Now this?! lol 

Someone posted this thread in that one and said read it. So I did. It is even dumber than that one. LPGA one is very relevant to current golf because it is getting talked about a lot right now and Foreplay is filming matches. 

Edited July 14 by AZBRONCFAN

[isaacbm]

Why is it dumber? Lots of interest in this thread when it came out. Lots of good discussion. Interesting look into a real life Match between amateurs and professionals.

 

I get that you and OBee are going at it a little bit but there’s nothing inherently dumb about either thread. 

Edited July 16 by isaacbm

[isaacbm]

I’ve played with OBee  a ton of times in Southern California. Maybe 50 times now.
 

The one club where he is a member is Bear Creek. Over the years, it has had multiple PGA winners as members.

 

Off the top of my head, Rickie Fowler, Phil Mickelson, Tom pernice  Junior. 
 

Probably 15 guys on the korn ferry tour.

 

multiple Southern California amateur champions, and mid champions. 

 

One amateur champion that’s qualified for the US senior open multiple times. 

 

Point being, OBee has been around high-level golf for a long time.  The matches that he has are often interesting reads because of the way he details them.  Now whether or not you believe that high-level amateurs can  compete against pros is your opinion, but you can’t deny that there’s been some good discussion in both of these threads. 
 

 

[Obee]

On 7/14/2025 at 8:45 AM, AZBRONCFAN said:

No chance even at Phils age now. Sometimes I wonder what people think scratch means because they act like they are close to making a living on the pro tours. 

Maybe read what happened?