A scratch player against Phil Mickelson with a 700 yard advantage....

[AZBRONCFAN]

11 hours ago, Obee said:

Maybe read what happened?

Great story but he obviously wasn't playing just you. He probably plays a bit different if he is just playing a scratch player. He had big action with Rickie as you said which was probably his main goal of trying to win.

[Obee]

Just now, AZBRONCFAN said:

Great story but he obviously wasn't playing just you. He probably plays a bit different if he is just playing a scratch player. He had big action with Rickie as you said which was probably his main goal of trying to win.

 

"Trying to win." I love this. You realize this is golf we're talking about, right? Golfers just play the damn game. They hit the shots that are in front of them. They don't do all kinds of different things because they're "trying to win." They just ... play the damn game.

All this is is a nice rebuttal to people who say ridonkulous things like "Phil will win by 20 shots," or "A scratch will NEVER come even close." And there were plenty of those in this thread. And they are just ... wrong.

It's just an interesting story about "scratch golfers" playing against pros on a tour-level course. It gives others a bit of insight into the kind of "handicapping" necessary to make matches close to even. We all needed to play the combo tees in order to make it a relatively even match versus Phil and Ricky and Korn Ferry/Mini-Tour pros. That's an 1,100 yard difference -- or about 6 shots in course rating. to make it truly even, we'd probably have to play a set of tees at about 5400 to 5700 yards. From those tees, all of us would shoot 62 to 72 just about every round ... like the pros do.
 

[Pnwpingi210]

These threads and their anecdotes read like a j peterman (Seinfeld version) ad

 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Edited July 16 by Pnwpingi210

[Pepperturbo]

5 minutes ago, Obee said:

 

"Trying to win." I love this. You realize this is golf we're talking about, right? Golfers just play the damn game. They hit the shots that are in front of them. They don't do all kinds of different things because they're "trying to win." They just ... play the damn game.

All this is is a nice rebuttal to people who say ridonkulous things like "Phil will win by 20 shots," or "A scratch will NEVER come even close." And there were plenty of those in this thread. And they are just ... wrong.

It's just an interesting story about "scratch golfers" playing against pros on a tour-level course. It gives others a bit of insight into the kind of "handicapping" necessary to make matches close to even. We all needed to play the combo tees in order to make it a relatively even match versus Phil and Ricky and Korn Ferry/Mini-Tour pros. That's an 1,100 yard difference -- or about 6 shots in course rating. to make it truly even, we'd probably have to play a set of tees at about 5400 to 5700 yards. From those tees, all of us would shoot 62 to 72 just about every round ... like the pros do.
 

I've played with PGA, LPGA, Champions tour guys, plus other professional athletes.  People that have never played with pros, will never get it.  

[Pnwpingi210]

[Obee]

3 minutes ago, Pnwpingi210 said:

These threads and their anecdotes read like a j peterman (Seinfeld version) ad

 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I didn't revive this damn thread. And if this site isn't (at least in part) for threads exactly like this, then what the hell is it for?

Let me guess: For you to spread your opinions about what is and isn't worthy? 

Maybe read the comments from the many people who enjoy my posts and whom I consider friends. Maybe see how many people loved reading this thread and enjoyed living vicariously through those of us lucky enough to have had the time of our lives playing with these guys?

[Pnwpingi210]

4 minutes ago, Obee said:

I didn't revive this damn thread. And if this site isn't (at least in part) for threads exactly like this, then what the hell is it for?

Let me guess: For you to spread your opinions about what is and isn't worthy? 

Maybe read the comments from the many people who enjoy my posts and whom I consider friends. Maybe see how many people loved reading this thread and enjoyed living vicariously through those of us lucky enough to have had the time of our lives playing with these guys?

They are entertaining, in the same way a j Peterman bit on Seinfeld is entertaining.

 

agree we are here to be entertaining.

 

for reference I’m in the same handicap range of all these what if scenarios so I find them very entertaining 

 

 

Edited July 16 by Pnwpingi210

[Obee]

Just now, Pnwpingi210 said:

They are entertaining, in the same way a j Peterman bit on Seinfeld is entertaining.

 

agree we are here to be entertaining.

 

for reference I’m in the same handicap range of all these what if scenarios so I find them very entertaining 

 

Yet you can't help but being a jerk to me for posting it. Nice.

[Pnwpingi210]

Just now, Obee said:

 

Yet you can't help but being a jerk to me for posting it. Nice.

I’m not being a jerk.  I find the colorful hyperbole to be entertaining.  I’m sharing a perspective.
 

 Just like you share a perspective in response of all these people that love and are entertained by your posts (which I am one of them)

[DavePelz4]

OB, in my 17 years being on this site, this post was my all-time fave. And it wasn't even close.  Thank you!

[borker]

God I hate these hypothetical, never-going-to-happen, endless debate type of posts. Twelve pages so far of back and forth over what-ifs.

Edited July 17 by borker

[Obee]

3 hours ago, borker said:

God I hate these hypothetical, never-going-to-happen, endless debate type of posts. Twelve pages so far of back and forth over what-ifs.

You know what I hate? People who pop off about threads they have not read.

 

This is/was not a hypothetical.

 

But thanks for playing!

 

🙄

 

 

[Obee]

@Forged4ever Thank you, Richard. 
 

Love you, bud!!

[Forged4ever]

3 minutes ago, Obee said:

@Forged4ever Thank you, Richard. 
 

Love you, bud!!

Back at ya Bro👊

 

Maddie sends hugs 'n kisses🤗😘

 

I hope that your back is feelin better!!

 

My Best,

Richard 

 

 

[Obee]

1 hour ago, Forged4ever said:

Back at ya Bro👊

 

Maddie sends hugs 'n kisses🤗😘

 

I hope that your back is feelin better!!

 

My Best,

Richard 

 

 

US Senior Am Qualifier on Monday. I have no hope. I will be lucky if I finish all 18 holes. Dr. said surgery is almost certainly

in my future now that numbness goes all the way down to my right heel.

 

Oh well...

 

[Pepperturbo]

17 hours ago, Obee said:

US Senior Am Qualifier on Monday. I have no hope. I will be lucky if I finish all 18 holes. Dr. said surgery is almost certainly

in my future now that numbness goes all the way down to my right heel.

 

Oh well...

 

I wish you a speedy recovery and even faster rehab, so you're back on the course in short order.

[UncleJohn’sBand]

20 hours ago, Obee said:

US Senior Am Qualifier on Monday. I have no hope. I will be lucky if I finish all 18 holes. Dr. said surgery is almost certainly

in my future now that numbness goes all the way down to my right heel.

 

Oh well...

 

We might not agree on everything, but Oak Hills needs you. One last hurrah, followed by a nice little vacation to the hottest place in Texas before a little snip snip never hurt nobody. 

[PedronNiall]

23 hours ago, Obee said:

US Senior Am Qualifier on Monday. I have no hope. I will be lucky if I finish all 18 holes. Dr. said surgery is almost certainly

in my future now that numbness goes all the way down to my right heel.

 

Oh well...

 

 

Mentioned it before but look into Carewear. Their system is even covered by insurance.

[bscinstnct]

On 7/17/2025 at 9:07 PM, Obee said:

You know what I hate? People who pop off about threads they have not read.

 

This is/was not a hypothetical.

 

But thanks for playing!

 

🙄

 

 

 

🤣 how ya gonna sweat a post from “borker”? 
 

You da man, Obee, everybody knows 🍻 
 

 

[m d g]

Sort of relevant: I've played Spyglass a few times. As a 7 index it is one of he toughest courses I've ever seen.

 

The last time was a fund-raiser and everyone played from the white tees. Spyglass is just over 6100 yards for the white tees, which we were playing.

 

I was getting my butt kicked. Rough was long and wet. Greens were lightning. And pins were brutal.

 

On one hole I looked back, and seemingly 100 yards behind me were the 'Pro' tees..the tips.

 

All I could think was, 'Holy cow, Phil shot 62 on this golf course under tougher conditions from there : )

[AZBRONCFAN]

Wrong thread.

Edited July 28 by AZBRONCFAN

[mosesgolf]

One of the best hole by hole match descriptions ever on WRX.  You made us feel like we were there watching.     Better than anything on Youtube 😁