Swing Thoughts for This Lady

[SimplyGolfing]

Hey everyone, Just looking for some swing tips. (Especially from Dan or Monte) ;) Thanks!

 

 

A

[TheLarch]

My favorite commercial is the Arnold Palmer "Swing YOUR Swing" commercial. With that in mind, I think you have a good swing. No two people swing the same, and a repeating swing that keeps the ball moving toward the target is the goal of all who tee it up. All the best.

[DavePelz4]

You have some great fundamentals as a starting point. Alignment looks good and that sounded like great contact.

 

Good luck and have fun!

[DrunkenTiger]

that looks better than my swing. lol

[Hstead]

that looks better than my swing. lol

 

Of course it does you are a dude.

[cardoustie]

any face on views ... I'd like to see impact

 

Position at top is pretty solid

[SimplyGolfing]

any face on views ... I'd like to see impact

 

Position at top is pretty solid

 

I will post one tonight or tomorrow. Thanks!

[Forged4ever]

any face on views ... I'd like to see impact

 

Position at top is pretty solid

 

I will post one tonight or tomorrow. Thanks!

Hi Amy :)

 

What club were ya swinging?

 

How was the shot, ie., flight, proximity to target, and how did it feel to you?

 

What are your thoughts on the shot?

 

You have a nice athletic swing-

 

Have a nice evening :)

 

My Best,

Richard

[SimplyGolfing]

any face on views ... I'd like to see impact

 

Position at top is pretty solid

 

I will post one tonight or tomorrow. Thanks!

Hi Amy :)

 

What club were ya swinging?

 

How was the shot, ie., flight, proximity to target, and how did it feel to you?

 

What are your thoughts on the shot?

 

You have a nice athletic swing-

 

Have a nice evening :)

 

My Best,

Richard

 

That was my PW. I tend to have a slight pull, but that's because I do have a slightly shut face at address. Working on that.

 

Overall, I like my shot and my swing, but I have a tough time holding greens when I hit them. My ball flight may not be high enough and/or I do not have enough spin. Is this due to low swing speed?

 

Here's my face on swing:

[Kenny Lee Puckett]

looks good. as your footwork & balance gets better and better thru continued practice only more good things will happen in your golf swing. keep digging it out of the dirt!

[cardoustie]

How far do you hit your pw? Cap?

 

I'm not an expert but I'd marry that right hand better onto the left

 

I would also like to see more covering of the ball and rotation of the torso thru the shot

 

You likely know you have a hold on move thru impact

 

 

[sevenfourate]

FANTASTIC TEMPO.... :hi:

[Reasonability]

A -

 

What I have to share is in the context of suggesting what may work out a little better for me personally. Hopefully there is an instructor whom you work with who can agree or disagree - and if there is at least general agreement - then a specific plan of attack is agree upon between the two of you. So for starters I hope and trust this is taken in the spirit its given.

 

IMO - golfers sometimes aren't 100% aware of what they do very well. Worse they may not fully understand WHY their better tendencies are paying off for them in spades. Without some sort of "inventory" of better things going on, it becomes difficult to become personally convinced any changes are or are not compromising what "feels" right or wrong. Bottom line, knowing what needs to be preserved at all costs and what is worth tweaking is (IMO) a healthy idea. It allows you to maintain the best of what is going on and be willing to make changes that build on - rather than compromise - those truly good things happening.

 

Not knowing where you are on all these fronts - I'll take a little inventory of BOTH here - again hoping the message is taken in good spirit and there is an instructor you might be able to share all this with. To cut to the chase here on the things I personally would work on... I'd spend time on the A) the grip and B) the release that can come from a different grip.

 

LMAO - As luck would have it I have to step away here for a short while. More to come this afternoon. Sorry! I WILL get back to you today.

[Reasonability]

OK... (sorry about that)

 

Clearly good things. My friends here have already stated you have nice balance and tempo. To expand just a little... Rhythm is the way backswing timing compares to through swing timing. The time from the instant of takeaway to the top should come close to equaling the time it takes to start the DS and TOTALLY complete the motion and land in the finishing pose. If you've ever seen it - swings that draw the club back with a quick snatching move, and/or seem to drift into a slow motion finish suffer from some sort of stall-outs during the swing. It could come from an incomplete backswing (not your issue)... maybe too much "slide and slap" from the top down to the ball (also not your problem).

 

A simple way to check this is to watch the little sliding point at the bottom of the video. Mark where the takeaway starts, again at the transition from backswing to downswing, and one more mark at the finial finish pose. You will find you're in good shape on this front -- Something I'd always keep up and running were it me personally.

 

Notice how far your shoulders turn in the backswing. Your lead shoulder gets behind the ball as your back turns to the target BEFORE you start back down and through. And then you turn the shoulders all the way to the finish. The club, hands, and arms all come to a stop TOGETHER signaling there is no stalling along the way. There is indeed acceleration all the way to the end of your motion. I would hang on to that complete rotation of the shoulders going back and through as well.

 

You turn the shoulders fairly perpendicularly to the address spine as viewed down the line. So many of us turn the shoulders too level with the horizon. This is another "well done" check mark for you.

 

In a couple of moments - I'll comment on your release and grip as promised. Just need a moment to get that one together here.

[Reasonability]

A,

 

I notice from the face-on swing that you make a couple of adjustments with your right hand on the handle just before takeaway.

 

The attached picture is your release of the angle between the shaft and your lead (left) arm going into impact. (see the face-on view). If you place the end of a pencil on the ball - and compare that to the puff of "smoke" at impact, you'll see your swing is bottoming-out a touch early.

 

We're going to tie all this grip, and what we see in how and when you dump that angle together now (and this is where an instructor working with you on this stuff would be really handy).

 

Notice once you've settled into your grip (face on) how we end up looking at the entire inside edge of your right hand thumb? During those last little adjustments, you tend to turn the right hand a little clockwise; As you look down at grip your right hand fingers end up very exposed and your right palm is facing a little bit skyward.

 

Now if you go the top of your backswing in the DTL video, you'll see something interesting. You complete the backswing with the right wrist bent (nice), a fairly flattened left wrist (also good), and overall a nice structure up there of the club, hands, and arms).

 

BUT... the clubface is pointing skyward (shut). That itself is NOT the end of the world. BUT because you started off with a right hand turned so far to the right, your clubface is naturally going to want to operate a little shut from start to finish. The ball would tend to fly low and left UNLESS you compensate somehow - which in your case appears to be a little bit of early "dumping" of the shaft-to-lead arm angle. In the picture you will see that the hands are closer to your right hip and thigh that the left hip and thigh...as the shaft and lead arm start lining up.

 

The goal I personally would have is to get to a point where the hands and handle are approaching the LEFT thigh, and THEN dump the shaft angle. WITH THAT I would also be focusing on swinging to left and inside a little after impact. Here is HOW I would do all that if it were me...

 

1) With the help of an instructor, I'd first make SURE the left hand is really good on the handle. The way you flatten out that left wrist and arm as seen DTL at the top is IMO very good. What I would do is first make sure that is met with a clubface at the top that isn't overly shut. This would be focused on the left hand ONLY at first. You can take it to the top and remove the right hand and check to see if the back of the left hand and the leading edge of the clubface are closer to parallel.... and work on the left hand until it is.

 

2) THEN I'd get the palm "cup" of the right hand sitting more atop the left thumb. The inside edge of the right pointer (where it wraps around the handle) would sit basically parallel to the clubface. In the end you would see three knuckles of the left hand showing as you look down, and both hands would feel like one nice "unit" on the club.

 

3) I LOVE the way your left elbow points downward toward the left hip. This sets the two bones in the left forearm up in a sort of vertically "stacked" condition at address. During the backswing you can glide the arms back and up as that left forearm rolls 90 degrees and your wrists naturally c0ck. As the grip is tweaked, I'd keep that left elbow pointing where it is at address and get that awareness of how half swings result in half of a forearm rotation, while full swings get the top bone to roll 90 degrees to the left by the time you get to the top.

 

4) Starting with half swings - I would set a ball more off of the left instep and about one ball diameter closer to you than normal. Swing your swing and notice how you have to turn and swing around to the left to contact the ball. Then try 3/4 swings with the ball in this same place. You will start to notice how you can carry the little bend in the back of your right wrist all the way to the left thigh before letting the wrists unhinge. You should notice how you turn and the right elbow is working down in front of you before the angle dumps. Then - full swings in the same manner.

 

By the time you are getting the grip and this drill working together, you will be ready to put the ball in the normal position in your stance and swing away. The swing will probably FEEL like it releases (unhinges) later as you turn and swing a little more to the left of target. That bend in the back of the right wrist should feel like it transports all the way down past the zipper before the angle begins to dump. The divots will start to appear on the target side of the ball.

 

You may notice that your follow-through swing plane feels a touch flatter and that your hands and the handle don't finish quite as high as before. If so, I would say that's because you are releasing the right hand over the left - but doing so in-posture and AFTER impact... and that your back and through swing planes are matching up a little better. So if you experience that - I'd call that much a good thing.

 

Once all that is happening, the ball WILL stop on the greens for you!

 

That's giving this my best shot for now. Best to you out there. Have a blast and thanks for sharing here.

[cardoustie]

Reason ability ... Gotta send you my own vid !!!

 

Very comprehensive

[Reasonability]

Reason ability ... Gotta send you my own vid !!!

 

Very comprehensive

 

Uncle Cardie - YOU'VE got game my friend. But anytime at all you'd care to share...I'd consider it an honor and a pleasure!

[StezzGolfer]

Very impressed, Reasonability. Love the break down and compliments.

[flog2]

nice set up

 

Right hand far too strong and balance issues, more stability in the lower half and a grip check would be a good start.

[Forged4ever]

Hi Amy :)

 

My only advice would be to either pick one of these Gents who's advice makes sense to you and you feel comfortable with that it could be helpful to you and stick with that/him or the best is to get a Teacher in your area to work with-

 

I am in no way dismissing any of the advice on this page, as most of these guys, especially Monte, Seven & Dan are excellent Pros and Teachers and you will find none better if you "click" with one and most of the Ams, lead by Reasons, have forgotten more in an afternoon than I've ever known about the golf swing-

 

I knew my swing, how to make it work, how to fix it when it didn't and how to get off of the course in one piece when it went sideways-

 

That's it-

 

I'm not a Pro/Teacher nor am I trained to teach the physical swing and unlike others, I'm just not comfortable giving advice on the physical swing or that side of the game. The mental side? That's a different ball game and I am comfortable speaking to that, lol

 

That being said, it can become mind numbing taking in others' advice and as the swing is a dynamic movement and not static, so it's never as simple as "turn this a tad this way, drop this a touch here and move that a smidgeon that way and flatten that at point A and square it at point B," and the bottom line is that you have a nice athletic swing and to start playing hit or miss, well, that's the last thing that you want to do and that's the chance that you take when you start mixing and matching and taking advice from the gallery-

 

Again, these Gents know the swing, no doubt, however they do not know YOU, your swing(I do not count viewing 11-12 seconds of video as enough to know a swing especially with the clarity, angles, etc) or what your goals are and to rework a whole swing based on this is risky at best.

 

So, if you cannot or do not want to take on a Teacher in your area, and you're comfortable with the individual/advice that you've gotten here, work with one of them, however please be careful and cautious about playing around with and changing your swing-

 

And as you see, there are no shortage of kind, sincere well intentioned Gentlemen to offer advice and assistance to a Young Lady :)

 

You appear to be at the door, and I would normally say that it's time to kick it the hell in however Madison says that that is very uncouth so I shall just say that it is time to step through the door :)

 

Oh, Madison saw your videos and while she is not permitted by her club to participate in any forums/blogs or social media, she was impressed with your tempo, balance and the athleticism of your swing. She sends her best :) She said she'd be glad to give you a couple of names out your way if you have none. If that interests you, PM me and I'll give ya her e-mail address.

 

Well, take care and the very Best to Ya and Please keep us in the loop as you move into the season though I guess in you neck of the woods, your season is year around, lol.

 

Stay Well My Friend :)

 

My Best,

Richard

[SimplyGolfing]

How far do you hit your pw? Cap?

 

I'm not an expert but I'd marry that right hand better onto the left

 

I would also like to see more covering of the ball and rotation of the torso thru the shot

 

You likely know you have a hold on move thru impact

 

Thanks for the tip! I hit my PW about 100... don't have a cap yet. I am happy to break 100, have done it a few times. I'll shoot anywhere from 97-110 playing from the 5500 yard range.

 

Always looking to improve :)

[SimplyGolfing]

Richard - Thanks for the kind words, makes me feel welcome to the forum. Also thank Madison for me :)

 

Agree completely. SO much to take in. I'll be sure to comb through it carefully and pick out the bits that I think will help me. Thanks not only for the tips, but for complimenting the parts you liked.

 

Ready to kick the door in. lol

 

 

A