PXG clubs

[Daniel Eason]

Seems like PXG is getting more and more marketing coverage at the moment so what gives with them on price ?

 

Are we just seeing high prices due to Bob Parsons needing his pay back on investments? Will they have no option but to lower price at some point? Did Parsons just want to live his dream and knows he has enough to use PXG as a little side business? (I suspect this is the case so good luck to him)

 

Funny statement here that he spent 250k on equipment alone?!?!?! http://Not allowed Per Todaysgolfer's UK request/news-and-events/general-news/2016/january/you-may-not-have-heard-of-parsons-xtreme-golf-thats-all-about-to-change/

[crazy8golfer]

The Golf Channel had a fairly in depth interview and special about Bob Parsons and his golf clubs yesterday. One of the people that works for Parsons said that their clubs cost more to make, but basically Parson was targeting the high end golfer. I heard them say that the irons were $300 each ! Parsons said that he was paying the pros that were playing his clubs less money than they were getting from their previous sponsors. I don't think he would have said anything different.

Parsons was a very cocky.

[Daniel Eason]

The Golf Channel had a fairly in depth interview and special about Bob Parsons and his golf clubs yesterday. One of the people that works for Parsons said that their clubs cost more to make, but basically Parson was targeting the high end golfer. I heard them say that the irons were $300 each ! Parsons said that he was paying the pros that were playing his clubs less money than they were getting from their previous sponsors. I don't think he would have said anything different.

Parsons was a very cocky.

 

Screams a bit midlife crisis...but good luck to him. Bored of IT...I resonate.

[CK2131]

I'm interested in the design, but the costs are just way out of 95% of people's range. The concept is cool though.

[DTXgolfer12]

They're a new brand. They have to get their name out there. The larger the investment the quicker you want to see a return on it. The problem is he's pricing himself way out of the average consumer's budget. $300 per iron is more than twice what most OEM's charge for a top quality forged iron. He's basically doing what a lot of Swiss watchmakers do - using price to force himself into the "higher end" market. As with many swiss watches - there is NOTHING that separates his brand from the others from a design or performance aspect. But the price, image, branding and "prestige" are what they will base their higher costs on.

It's a good idea to go after a market that seems to be "untapped" - I just don't think the current economy/job situation makes for a great time to charge golfers $2,500 for a set of irons. I think he will have to change this strategy eventually - I think you'll see the prices come down on these sooner or later.

[ultrafl1ght]

It's a risky strategy in the golf equipment industry, but I think it could pay off. Essentially PXG markets itself as an "amazing but expensive" (their words, not mine -- saw it in their GolfDigest spread) brand that is catering to a niche market of golfers. Most exclusive than custom order, but south of rare JDM brands.

[DavePelz4]

Every brand needs to have a strategy, competitive differentiation and pricing approach. There is a finite number of brands at the highest price point and PXG is choosing to compete there. Also, you have to consider that these aren't really mass produced and the fewer sets being made the higher cost per set which does translate in part to the price point.

 

It will be interesting to see the long-term pricing approach and whether they start to lower the cost/set.

[glensmithis]

Everyone want to argue about price. I base my equipment purchases on performance. After that decision is made, I then have to validate if the cost is worth the additional performance. I have tested the PXG 0311T irons on 2 separate occasions and compared them to my current clubs as well as several other offerings. My findings were that the PXG irons, without question, out performed everything else I hit. The dispersion grouping was noticeably tighter and I gained an average of 12 yards distance over my current set. PXG lofts versus my current set was only +1*, lie and length were exactly the same. Now, with gaining a full club in distance AND being more accurate, it puts me in the predicament of deciding if the cost is worth the added performance. If I can go from hitting a 200 yard 4-iron to a 212 yard 4-iron, I can now remove my 3-iron and fill a gap at the bottom of my bag by distance gaping my wedges and adding another "scoring" iron. To me, it is worth the higher cost for a club that performs that much better. If I was a race car driver, I would want the fastest, tightest cornering car available and cost wouldn't matter. IF I cannot afford it, I would not sit back and bash anyone that can.

 

Needless to say, I ordered a set of PXG 0311T's with the Veylix Arcane shaft. They should be in sometime next week and then I can begin filling any gaps at the top and bottom of my bag. I did not want to test woods or wedges until I have the irons in hand and know my exact distances.

[DTXgolfer12]

Everyone want to argue about price. I base my equipment purchases on performance. After that decision is made, I then have to validate if the cost is worth the additional performance. I have tested the PXG 0311T irons on 2 separate occasions and compared them to my current clubs as well as several other offerings. My findings were that the PXG irons, without question, out performed everything else I hit. The dispersion grouping was noticeably tighter and I gained an average of 12 yards distance over my current set. PXG lofts versus my current set was only +1*, lie and length were exactly the same. Now, with gaining a full club in distance AND being more accurate, it puts me in the predicament of deciding if the cost is worth the added performance. If I can go from hitting a 200 yard 4-iron to a 212 yard 4-iron, I can now remove my 3-iron and fill a gap at the bottom of my bag by distance gaping my wedges and adding another "scoring" iron. To me, it is worth the higher cost for a club that performs that much better. If I was a race car driver, I would want the fastest, tightest cornering car available and cost wouldn't matter. IF I cannot afford it, I would not sit back and bash anyone that can.

 

Needless to say, I ordered a set of PXG 0311T's with the Veylix Arcane shaft. They should be in sometime next week and then I can begin filling any gaps at the top and bottom of my bag. I did not want to test woods or wedges until I have the irons in hand and know my exact distances.

 

An iron only performs as well as you. There is no magical steel that makes the ball fly further or straighter. It's about loft, lies, and lengths. You probably had a shaft and loft change that attributes to the improvements. I would say that about any brand regardless of cost.

[DavePelz4]

Everyone want to argue about price. I base my equipment purchases on performance. After that decision is made, I then have to validate if the cost is worth the additional performance. I have tested the PXG 0311T irons on 2 separate occasions and compared them to my current clubs as well as several other offerings. My findings were that the PXG irons, without question, out performed everything else I hit. The dispersion grouping was noticeably tighter and I gained an average of 12 yards distance over my current set. PXG lofts versus my current set was only +1*, lie and length were exactly the same. Now, with gaining a full club in distance AND being more accurate, it puts me in the predicament of deciding if the cost is worth the added performance. If I can go from hitting a 200 yard 4-iron to a 212 yard 4-iron, I can now remove my 3-iron and fill a gap at the bottom of my bag by distance gaping my wedges and adding another "scoring" iron. To me, it is worth the higher cost for a club that performs that much better. If I was a race car driver, I would want the fastest, tightest cornering car available and cost wouldn't matter. IF I cannot afford it, I would not sit back and bash anyone that can.

 

Needless to say, I ordered a set of PXG 0311T's with the Veylix Arcane shaft. They should be in sometime next week and then I can begin filling any gaps at the top and bottom of my bag. I did not want to test woods or wedges until I have the irons in hand and know my exact distances.

 

Think you just identified their ideal target customer. You will pay for a significant improvement in performance and once you proved that out, cost was a secondary factor. Out of curiosity, at what price point would you have said the performance gain you saw doesn't justify the expense, if you don't mind sharing?

 

Also, there's a great ongoing thread with Chicago WRXers in it. Please stop by and say hi...

[playa]

I'm not sure there isn't a market for these prices. PXG irons are cheap comlared to Honma, which I've seen in golf shops in Australia for $25, 000 a set, although that was durinng the 90s when there was a growing contingent of wealthy asian businessmen taking up the game, and Honma was seen as a status symbol. I agree that in todays market it is less likely that a boutique prestige brand will take off, but history shows it's not impossible.

[dunn]

Hogan kind of tried to be unique and order only with higher prices....I see they have lowered their price and are in major golf stores now......you have to target mainstream to make money....there just isn't many guys that are in that group of buying ridiculously expensive clubs and out of those your only gonna get a percentage of em, certainly not all of em.....I like the clubs but just way too much money and that's a common theme......nice clubs but my ego isn't big enough to feel the need to show off my $2500 set of irons, sure there not much different than what I currently play....I know I will still shoot the same numbers....so vanity is only reason I can see gaming em....sure my ego will survive,lol

[TheMoneyShot]

Everyone want to argue about price. I base my equipment purchases on performance. After that decision is made, I then have to validate if the cost is worth the additional performance. I have tested the PXG 0311T irons on 2 separate occasions and compared them to my current clubs as well as several other offerings. My findings were that the PXG irons, without question, out performed everything else I hit. The dispersion grouping was noticeably tighter and I gained an average of 12 yards distance over my current set. PXG lofts versus my current set was only +1*, lie and length were exactly the same. Now, with gaining a full club in distance AND being more accurate, it puts me in the predicament of deciding if the cost is worth the added performance. If I can go from hitting a 200 yard 4-iron to a 212 yard 4-iron, I can now remove my 3-iron and fill a gap at the bottom of my bag by distance gaping my wedges and adding another "scoring" iron. To me, it is worth the higher cost for a club that performs that much better. If I was a race car driver, I would want the fastest, tightest cornering car available and cost wouldn't matter. IF I cannot afford it, I would not sit back and bash anyone that can.

 

Needless to say, I ordered a set of PXG 0311T's with the Veylix Arcane shaft. They should be in sometime next week and then I can begin filling any gaps at the top and bottom of my bag. I did not want to test woods or wedges until I have the irons in hand and know my exact distances.

 

What irons are in your bag currently?

[Jsjones]

I read about him stating average salaries of golfers and also not being able to compete with the big brands... So he stuck with the higher cost bracket and knew he could compete in there with limited American manufacturing in that bracket.

[dunn]

Everyone want to argue about price. I base my equipment purchases on performance. After that decision is made, I then have to validate if the cost is worth the additional performance. I have tested the PXG 0311T irons on 2 separate occasions and compared them to my current clubs as well as several other offerings. My findings were that the PXG irons, without question, out performed everything else I hit. The dispersion grouping was noticeably tighter and I gained an average of 12 yards distance over my current set. PXG lofts versus my current set was only +1*, lie and length were exactly the same. Now, with gaining a full club in distance AND being more accurate, it puts me in the predicament of deciding if the cost is worth the added performance. If I can go from hitting a 200 yard 4-iron to a 212 yard 4-iron, I can now remove my 3-iron and fill a gap at the bottom of my bag by distance gaping my wedges and adding another "scoring" iron. To me, it is worth the higher cost for a club that performs that much better. If I was a race car driver, I would want the fastest, tightest cornering car available and cost wouldn't matter. IF I cannot afford it, I would not sit back and bash anyone that can.

 

Needless to say, I ordered a set of PXG 0311T's with the Veylix Arcane shaft. They should be in sometime next week and then I can begin filling any gaps at the top and bottom of my bag. I did not want to test woods or wedges until I have the irons in hand and know my exact distances.

 

An iron only performs as well as you. There is no magical steel that makes the ball fly further or straighter. It's about loft, lies, and lengths. You probably had a shaft and loft change that attributes to the improvements. I would say that about any brand regardless of cost.

X2.....it's just piece of steel

 

I still like the PXG irons though, but there is no magical wand....golfer is responsible for performance imo

 

Will be interesting to see what happens, I hope he can stick around whatever way he ends up going with his brand

[tobybear]

In the target market and golf circles that these are available in they are selling VERY well..

 

Obviously not for everyone based on price but they do perform exactly as advertised, and as I said they're selling very well in the shops that they are available in.

[Payton1020]

I wouldn't expect anyone who spends that amount to admit anything less than spectacular reviews. That said, "a fool and his money........"

[mikec3672]

Members of this site are his target market, but he won't be getting my money anytime soon.

The comment about the Swiss watch was spot on/breaking into a higher priced market.

Similar performance can be had for a lot less if you fit properly.

[Scottyrocket]

They're a new brand. They have to get their name out there. The larger the investment the quicker you want to see a return on it. The problem is he's pricing himself way out of the average consumer's budget. $300 per iron is more than twice what most OEM's charge for a top quality forged iron. He's basically doing what a lot of Swiss watchmakers do - using price to force himself into the "higher end" market. As with many swiss watches - there is NOTHING that separates his brand from the others from a design or performance aspect. But the price, image, branding and "prestige" are what they will base their higher costs on.

It's a good idea to go after a market that seems to be "untapped" - I just don't think the current economy/job situation makes for a great time to charge golfers $2,500 for a set of irons. I think he will have to change this strategy eventually - I think you'll see the prices come down on these sooner or later.

 

Have you gotten fitted for these irons or the driver? I have and I would argue that there is something here. The question of worth and value is going to be dependent on the market. If you can't afford it then you can't, very simple. For some people forking over the extra money it's a no brainer because they enjoy golf and these clubs may allow them to obtain that goal. This isn't the only post I have seen on this where I am fairly sure the poster hasn't hit these clubs. Go hit them with the proper shafts for you and come back and tell me that it's all hype, then we can talk.

[casey_0507]

I hit the 0311 irons and do have to admit they felt really good. No idea about performance though as it was an indoor range.

[CAT GOLFER]

I don't know if anyone has articulated this yet, but it seemed to me from the video segment, when I watched, was that he admitted he was targeting the 2-3 million golfers that could afford the $300/club price point. And furthermore, he didn't seem at all worried about getting costs down to make the clubs more affordable. Reality would dictate that as he and the designers and engineers get better at doing what they are doing(i.e. They are still learning) the cost should come down, but it doesn't appear to me he is looking to pass those potential savings on to the consumer.

 

I don't think he is trying to be another volume brand, and for that reason I do not think pxg will ever have an "affordable" set available to the public. He wants to be a luxury, status symbol brand.

[uramnich]

Agree with the above sentiment that he is aiming at being a luxury status brand... Every brand has its own identity and I'm sure that pxg has carefully crafted it's brand management approach

 

Also as with most consumer branded items the very top end and the low end is growing.... The middle is being cut out.... Go check out the paper towel aisle or pasta aisle at your local big box store

[Morety]

Of all the PXG threads on here that I've read, the people that have actually demo'd the clubs seem to have very favorable reviews, even if they haven't purchased them. The people that bash them as too expensive don't say, "I hit them, loved them, and didn't want to pay for them." If you go into a PXG fitting, I feel like you've at least convinced yourself that you are willing to pay the price if you think the results are worth it. The high end golf market is plenty big enough for PXG to be a success at its current price point, as long as they don't later lower the prices and upset the early adopters. And from what I gather, Parsons doesn't have to have this company work to pay his mortgage. All the negativity seems to come from people that have never hit, or have no intention of purchasing, the clubs.

[glensmithis]

Everyone want to argue about price. I base my equipment purchases on performance. After that decision is made, I then have to validate if the cost is worth the additional performance. I have tested the PXG 0311T irons on 2 separate occasions and compared them to my current clubs as well as several other offerings. My findings were that the PXG irons, without question, out performed everything else I hit. The dispersion grouping was noticeably tighter and I gained an average of 12 yards distance over my current set. PXG lofts versus my current set was only +1*, lie and length were exactly the same. Now, with gaining a full club in distance AND being more accurate, it puts me in the predicament of deciding if the cost is worth the added performance. If I can go from hitting a 200 yard 4-iron to a 212 yard 4-iron, I can now remove my 3-iron and fill a gap at the bottom of my bag by distance gaping my wedges and adding another "scoring" iron. To me, it is worth the higher cost for a club that performs that much better. If I was a race car driver, I would want the fastest, tightest cornering car available and cost wouldn't matter. IF I cannot afford it, I would not sit back and bash anyone that can.

 

Needless to say, I ordered a set of PXG 0311T's with the Veylix Arcane shaft. They should be in sometime next week and then I can begin filling any gaps at the top and bottom of my bag. I did not want to test woods or wedges until I have the irons in hand and know my exact distances.

 

An iron only performs as well as you. There is no magical steel that makes the ball fly further or straighter. It's about loft, lies, and lengths. You probably had a shaft and loft change that attributes to the improvements. I would say that about any brand regardless of cost.

 

Actually, I hit the PXG irons with the EXACT shaft that I currently play (loft was 1* stronger with PXG but, length and lie were the same). It was important for me to compare apples to apples. There was noticeable improvements. After that was proven, I began being fit or the PXG irons. I did end up with a different shaft in the end. The Arcane shaft was the winner over the Modus 130 and KBS C taper. So, evidently there is "magical steel" or at least a "magical filled steel".....with bolts

[glensmithis]

Everyone want to argue about price. I base my equipment purchases on performance. After that decision is made, I then have to validate if the cost is worth the additional performance. I have tested the PXG 0311T irons on 2 separate occasions and compared them to my current clubs as well as several other offerings. My findings were that the PXG irons, without question, out performed everything else I hit. The dispersion grouping was noticeably tighter and I gained an average of 12 yards distance over my current set. PXG lofts versus my current set was only +1*, lie and length were exactly the same. Now, with gaining a full club in distance AND being more accurate, it puts me in the predicament of deciding if the cost is worth the added performance. If I can go from hitting a 200 yard 4-iron to a 212 yard 4-iron, I can now remove my 3-iron and fill a gap at the bottom of my bag by distance gaping my wedges and adding another "scoring" iron. To me, it is worth the higher cost for a club that performs that much better. If I was a race car driver, I would want the fastest, tightest cornering car available and cost wouldn't matter. IF I cannot afford it, I would not sit back and bash anyone that can.

 

Needless to say, I ordered a set of PXG 0311T's with the Veylix Arcane shaft. They should be in sometime next week and then I can begin filling any gaps at the top and bottom of my bag. I did not want to test woods or wedges until I have the irons in hand and know my exact distances.

 

Think you just identified their ideal target customer. You will pay for a significant improvement in performance and once you proved that out, cost was a secondary factor. Out of curiosity, at what price point would you have said the performance gain you saw doesn't justify the expense, if you don't mind sharing?

 

Also, there's a great ongoing thread with Chicago WRXers in it. Please stop by and say hi...

 

 

Honestly, I think I might have an issue paying $700 for the driver. I just don't see it being THAT much better than my H-G.

 

Where is the Chicago PXG thread?

[Scottyrocket]

Of all the PXG threads on here that I've read, the people that have actually demo'd the clubs seem to have very favorable reviews, even if they haven't bought them. The people that bash them as too expensive predominately don't say, "I hit them, loved them, and didn't want to pay for them." If you go into a PXG fitting, I feel like you've at least convinced yourself that you would be willing to pay the price if you think the results are worth it. The high end golf market is plenty big for the company to be a success and from what I gather, Parsons doesn't have to make this company work to pay his mortgage. All the negativity seems to come from people that have never hit, or have no intention of purchasing, the clubs.

 

I think this is very spot on.

[glensmithis]

Everyone want to argue about price. I base my equipment purchases on performance. After that decision is made, I then have to validate if the cost is worth the additional performance. I have tested the PXG 0311T irons on 2 separate occasions and compared them to my current clubs as well as several other offerings. My findings were that the PXG irons, without question, out performed everything else I hit. The dispersion grouping was noticeably tighter and I gained an average of 12 yards distance over my current set. PXG lofts versus my current set was only +1*, lie and length were exactly the same. Now, with gaining a full club in distance AND being more accurate, it puts me in the predicament of deciding if the cost is worth the added performance. If I can go from hitting a 200 yard 4-iron to a 212 yard 4-iron, I can now remove my 3-iron and fill a gap at the bottom of my bag by distance gaping my wedges and adding another "scoring" iron. To me, it is worth the higher cost for a club that performs that much better. If I was a race car driver, I would want the fastest, tightest cornering car available and cost wouldn't matter. IF I cannot afford it, I would not sit back and bash anyone that can.

 

Needless to say, I ordered a set of PXG 0311T's with the Veylix Arcane shaft. They should be in sometime next week and then I can begin filling any gaps at the top and bottom of my bag. I did not want to test woods or wedges until I have the irons in hand and know my exact distances.

 

What irons are in your bag currently?

 

 

Currently I play the Edel forged irons. They were custom fit for me about a year ago. Before that, MP69's.

[Lobber]

Was in Phoenix,last week for business and saw a TV commercial,for PXG. Interesting stuff. If I thought it would be the last set of irons I would ever buy I could see making the investment if the performance was that much better

[glensmithis]

Was in Phoenix,last week for business and saw a TV commercial,for PXG. Interesting stuff. If I thought it would be the last set of irons I would ever buy I could see making the investment if the performance was that much better

 

EVERY set that I buy is the "last" set....true WRXer

[Lobber]

Was in Phoenix,last week for business and saw a TV commercial,for PXG. Interesting stuff. If I thought it would be the last set of irons I would ever buy I could see making the investment if the performance was that much better

 

EVERY set that I buy is the "last" set....true WRXer

 

 

Truer words have not been spoken!