Spieth - Time to rebuild his swing?

[chigolfer1]

Still haven't seen a technical explanation/discussion of the pushes and wipes he was hitting. Why was that happening so much last weekend?

[Sean2]

Why on Earth would he want to mess with his swing? Everyone in golf makes bad shots. It happens. That doesn't mean one should run out and make a wholesale swing change.

[schwollo]

^exactly^

[CrabDaddy]

It just boggles my mind the number of players who, after dominating or playing well a certain way, look to change. Especially when distance is involved. Tiger Woods STILL hasnt found his way back after his first swing change so many years ago.

 

Spieth over the last couple of years is averaging 292 off the tee. Its not like he's some short knocker working hard to move it out to 275. The fact that Day, DJ and others can get to 325+ is irrelevant...there's also a reason those guys havent had the success Jordan has had either.

 

In a way, its almost like Jordan is starting to succumb to the talking heads who constantly complain about things like his grip, follow through, etc which arent textbook examples of pretty swings.

 

For the love of god, leave well enough alone and keep playing well.

 

Literally nobody on tour is "leaving well enough alone". They are all looking to get better and gain an advantage. They do this by constantly working on their swing with a tweak here and there. Jack Nicklaus golf swing changed through the years. Hogan said he was constantly tinkering with different things and if he didn't like it after a couple days he would scrap it. The idea that a player gets his swig and then just maintains it for the rest of his career is absurd.

Bruce Leitzke? LOL.

[Komarms]

Ridiculous statement. The guy just finished second at the masters.. Earlier this year I think he was what, -30 to win in Hawaii? If those are bad mechanics I'll take some of those. He's got some unique moves but even if he's only ever going to be an average ball striker he's still going to be a top tour player. The best course mgmt in the game and also the best putter. Pair those together and you can hit it like a donkey and still win tournaments, big tournaments.

[Fort Worth Pro]

It just boggles my mind the number of players who, after dominating or playing well a certain way, look to change. Especially when distance is involved. Tiger Woods STILL hasnt found his way back after his first swing change so many years ago.

 

Spieth over the last couple of years is averaging 292 off the tee. Its not like he's some short knocker working hard to move it out to 275. The fact that Day, DJ and others can get to 325+ is irrelevant...there's also a reason those guys havent had the success Jordan has had either.

 

In a way, its almost like Jordan is starting to succumb to the talking heads who constantly complain about things like his grip, follow through, etc which arent textbook examples of pretty swings.

 

For the love of god, leave well enough alone and keep playing well.

 

Literally nobody on tour is "leaving well enough alone". They are all looking to get better and gain an advantage. They do this by constantly working on their swing with a tweak here and there. Jack Nicklaus golf swing changed through the years. Hogan said he was constantly tinkering with different things and if he didn't like it after a couple days he would scrap it. The idea that a player gets his swig and then just maintains it for the rest of his career is absurd.

Bruce Leitzke? LOL.

 

Touché. Nobody who cares or is trying.

[CrabDaddy]

It just boggles my mind the number of players who, after dominating or playing well a certain way, look to change. Especially when distance is involved. Tiger Woods STILL hasnt found his way back after his first swing change so many years ago.

 

Spieth over the last couple of years is averaging 292 off the tee. Its not like he's some short knocker working hard to move it out to 275. The fact that Day, DJ and others can get to 325+ is irrelevant...there's also a reason those guys havent had the success Jordan has had either.

 

In a way, its almost like Jordan is starting to succumb to the talking heads who constantly complain about things like his grip, follow through, etc which arent textbook examples of pretty swings.

 

For the love of god, leave well enough alone and keep playing well.

 

Literally nobody on tour is "leaving well enough alone". They are all looking to get better and gain an advantage. They do this by constantly working on their swing with a tweak here and there. Jack Nicklaus golf swing changed through the years. Hogan said he was constantly tinkering with different things and if he didn't like it after a couple days he would scrap it. The idea that a player gets his swig and then just maintains it for the rest of his career is absurd.

Bruce Leitzke? LOL.

 

Touché. Nobody who cares or is trying.

When you say guys are always tweaking or working on something, they don't always show improvement. Do they work on stuff just to keeping it interesting? If you've won a major (or 2), I'd think you know your game is good enough, but it can probably get boring hitting the same shots over and over.

[farmer]

He struggled with anything other than the putter all week from my armchair.

 

What do you think? Grip, release, pivot motion far too timing related?

 

Too late now in the season though.

 

His mechancis are subpar.

that he is able to play so well is due to him being a great player in my opinion better than Tiger in that department.

He changed his gameplan, he made 4 birdies in a row, thought he made it the title was his and changed to playing consevertively, BUT his mechanics couldnt support that play and game so he lost it.

with the RBIm swing system behind him he be the champion now.

 

His decision to change his gameplan made him loose it.

so what do you call that?

Mental, attitude, bad judgement or whatever but thats when he lost the title thinking he got it.

Why don't you post the system? Let the hoi polloi jump a few levels.

[Fort Worth Pro]

It just boggles my mind the number of players who, after dominating or playing well a certain way, look to change. Especially when distance is involved. Tiger Woods STILL hasnt found his way back after his first swing change so many years ago.

 

Spieth over the last couple of years is averaging 292 off the tee. Its not like he's some short knocker working hard to move it out to 275. The fact that Day, DJ and others can get to 325+ is irrelevant...there's also a reason those guys havent had the success Jordan has had either.

 

In a way, its almost like Jordan is starting to succumb to the talking heads who constantly complain about things like his grip, follow through, etc which arent textbook examples of pretty swings.

 

For the love of god, leave well enough alone and keep playing well.

 

Literally nobody on tour is "leaving well enough alone". They are all looking to get better and gain an advantage. They do this by constantly working on their swing with a tweak here and there. Jack Nicklaus golf swing changed through the years. Hogan said he was constantly tinkering with different things and if he didn't like it after a couple days he would scrap it. The idea that a player gets his swig and then just maintains it for the rest of his career is absurd.

Bruce Leitzke? LOL.

 

Touché. Nobody who cares or is trying.

When you say guys are always tweaking or working on something, they don't always show improvement. Do they work on stuff just to keeping it interesting? If you've won a major (or 2), I'd think you know your game is good enough, but it can probably get boring hitting the same shots over and over.

 

Players all have tendencies that they have to stay away from. Jordan has said he has a tendency to not get loaded correctly. He slides his lower body and his upperbody will get too stacked on top. So when he talks about how he has been working on his swing, he is talking about fighting that tendency.

[dap]

Spieth is chasing distance which is different to tweaking your swing. In my opinion, at PGA tour level chasing distance is a slippery slope. Most of the top guys hit it further before they got on tour and usually dial back distance for more consistency to compete at the highest level.

 

Ian Baker Finch was a short hitter with a great short game who went after more distance and developed the long game yips. I hope Spieth doesn't do that. It's not easy at pro level to get another 10 mph clubhead speed just like that. It takes more than just a tweak to get that.

[Fort Worth Pro]

Spieth is chasing distance which is different to tweaking your swing. In my opinion, at PGA tour level chasing distance is a slippery slope. Most of the top guys hit it further before they got on tour and usually dial back distance for more consistency to compete at the highest level.

 

Ian Baker Finch was a short hitter with a great short game who went after more distance and developed the long game yips. I hope Spieth doesn't do that. It's not easy at pro level to get another 10 mph clubhead speed just like that. It takes more than just a tweak to get that.

This is from the hsbc too. No mention of chasing distance. Says it's all stuff he has worked on before. No pro is chasing 10 mph. They might gain 2 or 3 which is the equivalent of 10ish yards

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/11981405/Jordan-Spieth-offers-latest-demonstration-of-his-prodigious-gifts-with-flawless-third-round-63-in-Shanghai.html

 

"I came in with little confidence in what I was doing with my swing. It’s a very difficult move for me, getting the clubface back to square on the downswing, and it’s one I have been struggling with. But everything I’m working on is something I have encountered in the past, so I just go back and think back to what it easier for me.”

 

And from March. http://www.golfdigest.com/story/whats-wrong-with-jordan-spieth-here-are-five-possibilities

 

"Yeah, for whatever reason, my swing became extremely short,” he said at Doral, where he finished 73-73 to finish T-17. “And it wasn’t getting to parallel and therefore, my timing was just thrown off on a lot of shots that were played off uneven lies or with different wind conditions. I’ve been trying to just really load more and get more patient into my backswing. It’s tough to trust a lot of times, because it feels like you’re going to hit it out to the right.”

[dap]

Spieth is chasing distance which is different to tweaking your swing. In my opinion, at PGA tour level chasing distance is a slippery slope. Most of the top guys hit it further before they got on tour and usually dial back distance for more consistency to compete at the highest level.

 

Ian Baker Finch was a short hitter with a great short game who went after more distance and developed the long game yips. I hope Spieth doesn't do that. It's not easy at pro level to get another 10 mph clubhead speed just like that. It takes more than just a tweak to get that.

This is from the hsbc too. No mention of chasing distance. Says it's all stuff he has worked on before. No pro is chasing 10 mph. They might gain 2 or 3 which is the equivalent of 10ish yards

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/11981405/Jordan-Spieth-offers-latest-demonstration-of-his-prodigious-gifts-with-flawless-third-round-63-in-Shanghai.html

 

"I came in with little confidence in what I was doing with my swing. It’s a very difficult move for me, getting the clubface back to square on the downswing, and it’s one I have been struggling with. But everything I’m working on is something I have encountered in the past, so I just go back and think back to what it easier for me.”

 

And from March. http://www.golfdigest.com/story/whats-wrong-with-jordan-spieth-here-are-five-possibilities

 

"Yeah, for whatever reason, my swing became extremely short,” he said at Doral, where he finished 73-73 to finish T-17. “And it wasn’t getting to parallel and therefore, my timing was just thrown off on a lot of shots that were played off uneven lies or with different wind conditions. I’ve been trying to just really load more and get more patient into my backswing. It’s tough to trust a lot of times, because it feels like you’re going to hit it out to the right.”

Nick Faldo warned Spieth about chasing distance. Maybe he's not after 10 mph. I just came up with that figure because that's how far he's behind Day and Mcilroy but I'm sure Spieth would love to be up there with them.

 

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/faldo-warns-spieth-dont-over-tinker-gain-distance/

[Fort Worth Pro]

Spieth is chasing distance which is different to tweaking your swing. In my opinion, at PGA tour level chasing distance is a slippery slope. Most of the top guys hit it further before they got on tour and usually dial back distance for more consistency to compete at the highest level.

 

Ian Baker Finch was a short hitter with a great short game who went after more distance and developed the long game yips. I hope Spieth doesn't do that. It's not easy at pro level to get another 10 mph clubhead speed just like that. It takes more than just a tweak to get that.

This is from the hsbc too. No mention of chasing distance. Says it's all stuff he has worked on before. No pro is chasing 10 mph. They might gain 2 or 3 which is the equivalent of 10ish yards

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/11981405/Jordan-Spieth-offers-latest-demonstration-of-his-prodigious-gifts-with-flawless-third-round-63-in-Shanghai.html

 

"I came in with little confidence in what I was doing with my swing. It’s a very difficult move for me, getting the clubface back to square on the downswing, and it’s one I have been struggling with. But everything I’m working on is something I have encountered in the past, so I just go back and think back to what it easier for me.”

 

And from March. http://www.golfdigest.com/story/whats-wrong-with-jordan-spieth-here-are-five-possibilities

 

"Yeah, for whatever reason, my swing became extremely short,” he said at Doral, where he finished 73-73 to finish T-17. “And it wasn’t getting to parallel and therefore, my timing was just thrown off on a lot of shots that were played off uneven lies or with different wind conditions. I’ve been trying to just really load more and get more patient into my backswing. It’s tough to trust a lot of times, because it feels like you’re going to hit it out to the right.”

Nick Faldo warned Spieth about chasing distance. Maybe he's not after 10 mph. I just came up with that figure because that's how far he's behind Day and Mcilroy but I'm sure Spieth would love to be up there with them.

 

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/faldo-warns-spieth-dont-over-tinker-gain-distance/

 

Hahaha. He even said in that article "nothing much" 5-10 yards is nothing. It's about 2 mph club head speed. Getting stronger is a part of tgat for him and part is improving his swing aka tweaks

[dap]

Spieth is chasing distance which is different to tweaking your swing. In my opinion, at PGA tour level chasing distance is a slippery slope. Most of the top guys hit it further before they got on tour and usually dial back distance for more consistency to compete at the highest level.

 

Ian Baker Finch was a short hitter with a great short game who went after more distance and developed the long game yips. I hope Spieth doesn't do that. It's not easy at pro level to get another 10 mph clubhead speed just like that. It takes more than just a tweak to get that.

This is from the hsbc too. No mention of chasing distance. Says it's all stuff he has worked on before. No pro is chasing 10 mph. They might gain 2 or 3 which is the equivalent of 10ish yards

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/11981405/Jordan-Spieth-offers-latest-demonstration-of-his-prodigious-gifts-with-flawless-third-round-63-in-Shanghai.html

 

"I came in with little confidence in what I was doing with my swing. It’s a very difficult move for me, getting the clubface back to square on the downswing, and it’s one I have been struggling with. But everything I’m working on is something I have encountered in the past, so I just go back and think back to what it easier for me.”

 

And from March. http://www.golfdigest.com/story/whats-wrong-with-jordan-spieth-here-are-five-possibilities

 

"Yeah, for whatever reason, my swing became extremely short,” he said at Doral, where he finished 73-73 to finish T-17. “And it wasn’t getting to parallel and therefore, my timing was just thrown off on a lot of shots that were played off uneven lies or with different wind conditions. I’ve been trying to just really load more and get more patient into my backswing. It’s tough to trust a lot of times, because it feels like you’re going to hit it out to the right.”

Nick Faldo warned Spieth about chasing distance. Maybe he's not after 10 mph. I just came up with that figure because that's how far he's behind Day and Mcilroy but I'm sure Spieth would love to be up there with them.

 

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/faldo-warns-spieth-dont-over-tinker-gain-distance/

 

Hahaha. He even said in that article "nothing much" 5-10 yards is nothing. It's about 2 mph club head speed. Getting stronger is a part of tgat for him and part is improving his swing aka tweaks

I think at that level even getting an extra 2 or 3 mph is not easy without resorting to stuff like lengthening backswing. A big part of distance is genetics. Some people just have more fast twitch muscles and can move faster. Gym work doesn't necessarily improves distance. Tiger was longer when he was a skinny runt.

[Fort Worth Pro]

Spieth is chasing distance which is different to tweaking your swing. In my opinion, at PGA tour level chasing distance is a slippery slope. Most of the top guys hit it further before they got on tour and usually dial back distance for more consistency to compete at the highest level.

 

Ian Baker Finch was a short hitter with a great short game who went after more distance and developed the long game yips. I hope Spieth doesn't do that. It's not easy at pro level to get another 10 mph clubhead speed just like that. It takes more than just a tweak to get that.

This is from the hsbc too. No mention of chasing distance. Says it's all stuff he has worked on before. No pro is chasing 10 mph. They might gain 2 or 3 which is the equivalent of 10ish yards

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/11981405/Jordan-Spieth-offers-latest-demonstration-of-his-prodigious-gifts-with-flawless-third-round-63-in-Shanghai.html

 

"I came in with little confidence in what I was doing with my swing. It’s a very difficult move for me, getting the clubface back to square on the downswing, and it’s one I have been struggling with. But everything I’m working on is something I have encountered in the past, so I just go back and think back to what it easier for me.”

 

And from March. http://www.golfdigest.com/story/whats-wrong-with-jordan-spieth-here-are-five-possibilities

 

"Yeah, for whatever reason, my swing became extremely short,” he said at Doral, where he finished 73-73 to finish T-17. “And it wasn’t getting to parallel and therefore, my timing was just thrown off on a lot of shots that were played off uneven lies or with different wind conditions. I’ve been trying to just really load more and get more patient into my backswing. It’s tough to trust a lot of times, because it feels like you’re going to hit it out to the right.”

Nick Faldo warned Spieth about chasing distance. Maybe he's not after 10 mph. I just came up with that figure because that's how far he's behind Day and Mcilroy but I'm sure Spieth would love to be up there with them.

 

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/faldo-warns-spieth-dont-over-tinker-gain-distance/

 

Hahaha. He even said in that article "nothing much" 5-10 yards is nothing. It's about 2 mph club head speed. Getting stronger is a part of tgat for him and part is improving his swing aka tweaks

I think at that level even getting an extra 2 or 3 mph is not easy without resorting to stuff like lengthening backswing. A big part of distance is genetics. Some people just have more fast twitch muscles and can move faster. Gym work doesn't necessarily improves distance. Tiger was longer when he was a skinny runt.

 

It's really not that hard. I teach a girl who was an ajga all American as a sophomore in high school and is now a freshman at tcu. We have gained her 7mph in less than a year and still have 5-10 to go. Justin Rose said he gained about 5 mph in changing where he moves his pressure and how he loads. I personally gained 5 mph last year at the age of 35 by tweaking my leg action and hit the ball much straighter. Fact is you don't know what tweaks he is making. Fact is he said he would like to add a few yards but hasn't talked about how he might do that other than "improving his swing". Fact, every tour player is working to improve their swing. Fact, the changes he has publicly mentioned are nothing more than working on his tendencies. Have you ever played at a high level??

[dap]

I was talking PGA tour level. Justin Rose is a poor example. Yes, he did gain 5mph but it was hardly a tweak. It was a major rebuild under Foley. Rose risked rebuilding his swing and got lucky. Not all rebuilds results in a happy ending.

 

I'm sure all guys are tweaking their swings but not many dare a major rebuild.

[BigD]

I was talking PGA tour level. Justin Rose is a poor example. Yes, he did gain 5mph but it was hardly a tweak. It was a major rebuild under Foley. Rose risked rebuilding his swing and got lucky. Not all rebuilds results in a happy ending.

 

I'm sure all guys are tweaking their swings but not many dare a major rebuild.

 

Curious as to how you define major rebuild. I am thinking to a certain extent: Tiger (3 times?), Padraig Harrington, Erix Axely, Aaron Baddley, Lee Westwood (left Foley), Fowler, Immelman, Michelson. I am sure there are others that I am not thinking of.

[dap]

I was talking PGA tour level. Justin Rose is a poor example. Yes, he did gain 5mph but it was hardly a tweak. It was a major rebuild under Foley. Rose risked rebuilding his swing and got lucky. Not all rebuilds results in a happy ending.

 

I'm sure all guys are tweaking their swings but not many dare a major rebuild.

 

Curious as to how you define major rebuild. I am thinking to a certain extent: Tiger (3 times?), Padraig Harrington, Erix Axely, Aaron Baddley, Lee Westwood (left Foley), Fowler, Immelman, Michelson. I am sure there are others that I am not thinking of.

A tweak would take no more than a lesson or two. Rose spent a year rebuilding his swing under Foley before seeing seeing results. I suppose the term "tweak" would need to be defined otherwise no point debating.

[Fort Worth Pro]

I was talking PGA tour level. Justin Rose is a poor example. Yes, he did gain 5mph but it was hardly a tweak. It was a major rebuild under Foley. Rose risked rebuilding his swing and got lucky. Not all rebuilds results in a happy ending.

 

I'm sure all guys are tweaking their swings but not many dare a major rebuild.

 

Curious as to how you define major rebuild. I am thinking to a certain extent: Tiger (3 times?), Padraig Harrington, Erix Axely, Aaron Baddley, Lee Westwood (left Foley), Fowler, Immelman, Michelson. I am sure there are others that I am not thinking of.

A tweak would take no more than a lesson or two. Rose spent a year rebuilding his swing under Foley before seeing seeing results. I suppose the term "tweak" would need to be defined otherwise no point debating.

 

Then we definitely have differences of opinion on what a tweak is. Rose was changing his pressures. That's simple and nothing major. He wasn't attempting to change his plane, or his release pattern or even changing multiple pieces. The fact that it took a year for him to be comfortable with it and not revert doesn't mean it was a swing overhaul.

[300_Straight]

This kills me. Spieth was ahead THE ENTIRE TOURNAMENT by 2+ strokes until he chunked 2 balls into the water from a momentary lapse of whatever he lapsed in. And now he needs to work on his swing? Lol....

[dap]

I was talking PGA tour level. Justin Rose is a poor example. Yes, he did gain 5mph but it was hardly a tweak. It was a major rebuild under Foley. Rose risked rebuilding his swing and got lucky. Not all rebuilds results in a happy ending.

 

I'm sure all guys are tweaking their swings but not many dare a major rebuild.

 

Curious as to how you define major rebuild. I am thinking to a certain extent: Tiger (3 times?), Padraig Harrington, Erix Axely, Aaron Baddley, Lee Westwood (left Foley), Fowler, Immelman, Michelson. I am sure there are others that I am not thinking of.

A tweak would take no more than a lesson or two. Rose spent a year rebuilding his swing under Foley before seeing seeing results. I suppose the term "tweak" would need to be defined otherwise no point debating.

 

Then we definitely have differences of opinion on what a tweak is. Rose was changing his pressures. That's simple and nothing major. He wasn't attempting to change his plane, or his release pattern or even changing multiple pieces. The fact that it took a year for him to be comfortable with it and not revert doesn't mean it was a swing overhaul.

Rose talked about his changes in this video. He changed his plane, backswing, downswing and through swing. His words, not mine.

 

 

[Fort Worth Pro]

I was talking PGA tour level. Justin Rose is a poor example. Yes, he did gain 5mph but it was hardly a tweak. It was a major rebuild under Foley. Rose risked rebuilding his swing and got lucky. Not all rebuilds results in a happy ending.

 

I'm sure all guys are tweaking their swings but not many dare a major rebuild.

 

Curious as to how you define major rebuild. I am thinking to a certain extent: Tiger (3 times?), Padraig Harrington, Erix Axely, Aaron Baddley, Lee Westwood (left Foley), Fowler, Immelman, Michelson. I am sure there are others that I am not thinking of.

A tweak would take no more than a lesson or two. Rose spent a year rebuilding his swing under Foley before seeing seeing results. I suppose the term "tweak" would need to be defined otherwise no point debating.

 

Then we definitely have differences of opinion on what a tweak is. Rose was changing his pressures. That's simple and nothing major. He wasn't attempting to change his plane, or his release pattern or even changing multiple pieces. The fact that it took a year for him to be comfortable with it and not revert doesn't mean it was a swing overhaul.

Rose talked about his changes in this video. He changed his plane, backswing, downswing and through swing. His words, not mine.

 

 

Yeah. When justin went to foley they scrapped his Ledbetter action. I am talking about something completely different. His swing was essentially a finished product until they started working on swing catalyst. That's when he gained 5 mph.

 

Skip to 1:30 here.

[dodger]

By any measure, how is Jordan Spieth a short hitter? The top three at the Masters had similar driving distances. Because Rory and Day can hit it 350 does not mean he needs to change his swing. Length had nothing to do with how he played 12.

[dap]

By any measure, how is Jordan Spieth a short hitter? The top three at the Masters had similar driving distances. Because Rory and Day can hit it 350 does not mean he needs to change his swing. Length had nothing to do with how he played 12.

 

His clubhead speed is 111 which is around 10 behind his main rivals Day, Mcilroy and Scott. The guy is 22 and a stud with hormones. He has openly stated he is envious of their length and that they are playing a different course. He idolises Adam Scot's swing. It's hardly surprising he would at least want to close the distance gap just a bit.

 

Of course the smart move would be to accept it and focus on his strengths but he's only 22.

 

 

[flatnstuck]

It just boggles my mind the number of players who, after dominating or playing well a certain way, look to change. Especially when distance is involved. Tiger Woods STILL hasnt found his way back after his first swing change so many years ago.

 

Spieth over the last couple of years is averaging 292 off the tee. Its not like he's some short knocker working hard to move it out to 275. The fact that Day, DJ and others can get to 325+ is irrelevant...there's also a reason those guys havent had the success Jordan has had either.

 

In a way, its almost like Jordan is starting to succumb to the talking heads who constantly complain about things like his grip, follow through, etc which arent textbook examples of pretty swings.

 

For the love of god, leave well enough alone and keep playing well.

 

Literally nobody on tour is "leaving well enough alone". They are all looking to get better and gain an advantage. They do this by constantly working on their swing with a tweak here and there. Jack Nicklaus golf swing changed through the years. Hogan said he was constantly tinkering with different things and if he didn't like it after a couple days he would scrap it. The idea that a player gets his swig and then just maintains it for the rest of his career is absurd.

Bruce Leitzke? LOL.

 

Touché. Nobody who cares or is trying.

When you say guys are always tweaking or working on something, they don't always show improvement. Do they work on stuff just to keeping it interesting? If you've won a major (or 2), I'd think you know your game is good enough, but it can probably get boring hitting the same shots over and over.

 

You're always tightening the screws down somewhere even if you have total faith in your action and don't want to fool with it. Those blessed weeks where everything is in alignment and nothing needs to be worked on are few and far between even for the greats. And it doesn't even have to be your action. Sometimes your pointer gets off without you knowing it. Happens to all of us.

[magnus7319]

There's tons of guys with cookie cutter technically sound and track man optimized swings that fill the mini tours and pga events and don't come close to ever winning. Ever. I'll take a guy with a home made (looking) swing who has it grooved and can win.

 

You want to play golf or play golf swing?

 

How many, or how's it look?

 

We could go on...

[MonteScheinblum]

There's tons of guys with cookie cutter technically sound and track man optimized swings that fill the mini tours and pga events and don't come close to ever winning. Ever. I'll take a guy with a home made (looking) swing who has it grooved and can win.

 

You want to play golf or play golf swing?

 

How many, or how's it look?

 

We could go on...

 

Great post. The flip side is amateurs trying to copy the homemade swings because that's where the magic must be.

 

 

[elwhippy]

There are no pictures on a scorecard. How many not how also springs to mind.

[mukster]

Everybody should stop worrying about the kid. He will be fine. So he expected to win, but didn't. Happens to the best of them.

 

Post of the week for me was this , titled "Premature Jacket Elation"

 

Props to the original poster on another forum!

[duck hook]

text book swing seems to be really working for guys like Charles Howell