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[TiScape]

Just now, bscinstnct said:

 

Ha! Reminded me these things, who knows what the “cheese” was made of but they were good! 
 

 

Haha right! Loved those 

[braincramp52]

[Jim53]

This stuff is for young people  back in the airport to go home. 12 more hrs of travel.

 

I just don't enjoy it anymore, must be time to retire.

[bscinstnct]

[TiScape]

3 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

Yes, I knew that 😊

[braincramp52]

9 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

Mods are getting slow around here. Usually content from that site can't be mentioned or shown here.

[bladehunter]

Very Interesting video about one of the tiny islands off NC.  And its dialect etc. but.  Checkout this kid on the drums. Go to the 40.10 ish mark.   Am I crazy or is he good ?  ( age as context). @aenemated ..  that’s looks like a really hard song to me. But I don’t really know.  
 

 

here is him too covering princes guitar solo from the RR hall of fame show. What’s he’s gonna go be like when he’s grown and has strong hands?  .  And some say natural talent doesn’t exist.  They say he hasn’t been playing guitar long … crazy. 
 

 

Edited July 31 by bladehunter

[bscinstnct]

43 minutes ago, braincramp52 said:

Mods are getting slow around here. Usually content from that site can't be mentioned or shown here.

 

Really? Since when? Is it just on the grille or all of wrx?

[braincramp52]

24 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Very Interesting video about one of the tiny islands off NC.  And its dialect etc. but.  Checkout this kid on the drums. Go to the 40.10 ish mark.   Am I crazy or is he good ?  ( age as context). @aenemated ..  that’s looks like a really hard song to me. But I don’t really know.  
 

 

here is him too covering princes guitar solo from the RR hall of fame show. What’s he’s gonna go be like when he’s grown and has strong hands?  .  And some say natural talent doesn’t exist.  They say he hasn’t been playing guitar long … crazy. 
 

 

They're both good for their age. 

[braincramp52]

1 minute ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Really? Since when? Is it just on the grille or all of wrx?

Used to be everywhere here. They would remove posts that MGS was mentioned.

Edited July 31 by braincramp52

[bscinstnct]

1 minute ago, braincramp52 said:

Used to be everywhere here. They would remove posts that MGS was mentioned.

 

Ohhh I thought you meant all of twitter!🤣

 

Sorry mods, I didn’t know!

[braincramp52]

25 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Ohhh I thought you meant all of twitter!🤣

 

Sorry mods, I didn’t know!

I don't know if they still do it or not.It was a bad look. 

[Double Mocha Man]

1 hour ago, braincramp52 said:

Mods are getting slow around here. Usually content from that site can't be mentioned or shown here.

 

Maybe the new owners are interested in acquiring that outfit, as well. Or perhaps we are getting a lot more leeway with the content we post.

[Nard_S]

35 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Am I crazy or is he good ?  ( age as context).

Eh, no not really. Drums were my life from 12 to 27. I knew peers who were as advanced as a Jeff Porcaro. I'm still amazed at guys who were 16 and blowing out some really advanced stuff. Prime Jeff Beck to the ghost note. The talent pool at one time was wide & deep and no one but there friends & parents will ever know of them. Bonham was maybe 19 or 20 when Zep cut their 1st record. The amazing part was the basic tracks were done in two days. That is not a small thing to do. Schrieve of Santana was 17 when he was blowing it out at Woodstock. Porcaro was and 17 backing Scags on his LP's. I could faithfully do Pert & Paice when I was in teenage years, studied in NYC for a year when I was 23(?), my god there were so many who could "play". Dave Weckl appeared at my HS for a clinic. He was with a small college jazz ensemble. He convinced me i had no business going to college as a music student. The best music student at that time has 8 Grammy's right now, and know one knows him. I got as far as big names telling my band that we sucked, lol. They were right, but we did have talent, we just did not evolve & ferment it enough. Learned a lot from those years, glad i did it but wish i took it to the max, which is not what happened. Ah, well. This kid is one of a million. Golf folks revere the odds of the best rising & shining. In music, those odds are exponentially skimpier. 

[TiScape]

2 hours ago, bladehunter said:

Very Interesting video about one of the tiny islands off NC.  And its dialect etc. but.  Checkout this kid on the drums. Go to the 40.10 ish mark.   Am I crazy or is he good ?  ( age as context). @aenemated ..  that’s looks like a really hard song to me. But I don’t really know.  
 

 

here is him too covering princes guitar solo from the RR hall of fame show. What’s he’s gonna go be like when he’s grown and has strong hands?  .  And some say natural talent doesn’t exist.  They say he hasn’t been playing guitar long … crazy. 
 

 

I’d say he’s okay for a small island off NC where peeps don’t know any better. Outside of that… Don’t quit the day job chuckin’ oysters kid! 🦪 

 

😜

[TiScape]

58 minutes ago, Double Mocha Man said:

 

Maybe the new owners are interested in acquiring that outfit, as well. Or perhaps we are getting a lot more leeway with the content we post.

I’m pretty sure “disguised profanity” is also okay now! 

[aenemated]

36 minutes ago, Nard_S said:

Bonham was maybe 19 or 20 when Zep cut their 1st record.

 

And Slash was around 20 when they laid down Appetite ... which is, as far as I'm concerned, the single greatest hard rock record ever. And if you listen to the isolated tracks ... his parts are a sloppy, godawful mess from a technical standpoint 😂 Which doesn't change the fact that it's the greatest hard rock record ever. 

 

Which lends to ...

 

38 minutes ago, Nard_S said:

Golf folks revere the odds of the best rising & shining. In music, those odds are exponentially skimpier. 

 

... to the point of being irrelevant. "Talent" and "skill" mean eff-all when it comes to making a name for one's self in the music biz. And it never has. 

 

 

46 minutes ago, Nard_S said:

Dave Weckl appeared at my HS for a clinic.

 

Dave's a good dude. 

[braincramp52]

1 minute ago, TiScape said:

I’m pretty sure “disguised profanity” is also okay now! 

That's awesome news!

[TiScape]

Just now, braincramp52 said:

That's awesome news!

I’d personally test it out. But even w/only one “point”, I was told my next would result in a permanent ban 🚫. So yeah, no 😊

[aenemated]

2 hours ago, bladehunter said:

Very Interesting video about one of the tiny islands off NC.  And its dialect etc. but.  Checkout this kid on the drums. Go to the 40.10 ish mark.   Am I crazy or is he good ?  ( age as context). @aenemated ..  that’s looks like a really hard song to me. But I don’t really know.  
 

 

here is him too covering princes guitar solo from the RR hall of fame show. What’s he’s gonna go be like when he’s grown and has strong hands?  .  And some say natural talent doesn’t exist.  They say he hasn’t been playing guitar long … crazy. 
 

 

 

Competent player, sure. The drum part is ... let's say around that third stage (on a scale of 1-10) when you've figured out your left hand can do more besides 2 & 4. And then you absolutely have to keep it going endlessly 😂 Been there!

 

THIS is elite for the age ...

 

 

I was around 18 or so when I first saw that and was all "Welp, guess I'll stick with the whole computer thing." 😂

[Petethreeput]

All this music talk and prodigies reminded me of this young lady we caught this past winter.  You can skip to about the 3 minute mark, but then this 17 year old girl does this.  It was pretty surprising since we were just chilling off the side doing what people do at Dead shows.  @aenematedloves this stuff, @mshillshas given it up, but I will say Bobby is old, but the folks with whom he surrounds himself are all incredibly accomplished musicians.  Jay Lane on the drums, Oteil Burbridge on bass, Sturgill, and Jeff Chimenti on keyboards.

 

Grace was there to participate in the Brandi Carlile Girls Just Wanna weekend later on.  Brandi also came out for a 3 song cameo.

 

 

[mshills]

1 minute ago, Petethreeput said:

All this music talk and prodigies reminded me of this young lady we caught this past winter.  You can skip to about the 3 minute mark, but then this 17 year old girl does this.  It was pretty surprising since we were just chilling off the side doing what people do at Dead shows.  @aenematedloves this stuff, @mshillshas given it up, but I will say Bobby is old, but the folks with whom he surrounds himself are all incredibly accomplished musicians.  Jay Lane on the drums, Oteil Burbridge on bass, Sturgill, and Jeff Chimenti on keyboards.

 

Grace was there to participate in the Brandi Carlile Girls Just Wanna weekend later on.  Brandi also came out for a 3 song cameo.

 

 

Dang!
 

Bobby knows some seriously talented people and his genius these days is getting them together.

 

Oteil is a once in a generation talent and a musician I just love. 
 

That’s something music and golf have in common. If you’re going to be any good, you usually are good at a young age, and regardless of when you start, you always become good very quickly. 

[TiScape]

Walk into the Grille this morning and it’s all like…

 

I’ll catch up with ya’ll when ⬇️ comes back around! 

Edited July 31 by TiScape

[aenemated]

The funny thing about my life in music is ... I've just never cared that much. I enjoy playing shows immensely - it's the ONLY reason I even bother - but I've never cared enough to put in the work to reach any like ... elite level. 

 

I remember the day after F&D announcing we were shutting it down; my FB/IG inboxes blew up with dudes - from some pretty good bands - asking if I wanted to come jam with them. I was like "Why dude? I ain't all that good." 😂

[Nard_S]

17 minutes ago, aenemated said:

.. to the point of being irrelevant. "Talent" and "skill" mean eff-all when it comes to making a name for one's self in the music biz. And it never has. 

To a degree, yes, but the "talented" who make a name, often there's a deeper intelligence behind their skills.

Example the Zep bio, now on Netflix, Jones & Page, their pedigree,seasoned studio guys at 15 and the just the musical curiosity of them & entire band. And the depth of curiosity of many of the British musicians at that time. Nirvana exploded and redefined music scene. The irony is Cobain revered McCartney & Lennon and it shows in the product. Artists who attain iconic have something else too.They all have pursued perfecting their imperfect selves. Forging to a unique from all that is familiar. Example, a Metallica, Rush or Zep but also, The Stones & James Brown & Beatles or Prince.. That's where the many falter, that grind to be unique &authentic but still remain grounded to a greater cultural legacy.

[TiScape]

4 minutes ago, aenemated said:

The funny thing about my life in music is ... I've just never cared that much. I enjoy playing shows immensely - it's the ONLY reason I even bother - but I've never cared enough to put in the work to reach any like ... elite level. 

 

I remember the day after F&D announcing we were shutting it down; my FB/IG inboxes blew up with dudes - from some pretty good bands - *asking if I wanted to come jam with them. I was like "Why dude? I ain't all that good*." 😂

Interesting. I don’t really know you. But my guess to the “why?”, could very possibly be your awesome personality & persona??? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Nard_S]

45 minutes ago, aenemated said:

And Slash was around 20 when they laid down Appetite ... which is, as far as I'm concerned, the single greatest hard rock record ever. And if you listen to the isolated tracks ... his parts are a sloppy, godawful mess from a technical standpoint 😂 Which doesn't change the fact that it's the greatest hard rock record ever.

My point about Bonham or Porcaro for that matter is basic tracks for recordings is flat out the most difficult gig a drummer has to pull off. Vocalists, guitarists and much more at least can dub there way to perfection. Basic foundation of song done to greatness and in a mater of hours while meter of money is dialing away is a very high bar. It's a huge reason why most all rhythm tracks went machine & digital and why there's a handful of musicians who performed on billions worth of recorded music. 

[aenemated]

1 minute ago, Nard_S said:

My point about Bonham or Porcaro for that matter is basic tracks for recordings is flat out the most difficult gig a drummer has to pull off. Vocalists, guitarists and much more at least can dub there way to perfection. Basic foundation of song done to greatness and in a mater of hours while meter of money is dialing away is a very high bar. It's a huge reason why most all rhythm tracks went machine & digital and why there's a handful of musicians who performed on billions worth of recorded music. 

 

Facts.

 

I got pretty lucky on that front. I'd only been playing a couple years and knew even less than I do now. Starting jamming with a dude who was a couple years older and was starting to get into audio engineering and such - so I became the drum recording guinea pig. 

 

We'd hang out for hours and hours, drinking beer and laying down drum parts - all to a click, of course. Little did I know at the time, I was developing a pretty solid internal meter.

 

Over the years when I've sat in with musicians far superior to me; a comment I've always gotten is "Man, your time is rock solid." Which I'm perfectly happy to hear. 

 

Been a long time since I've been in the studio - last time was the TCK record about 15 years ago. Laid down 8 tracks in two days - only one I had to do more than once was one that simply did not work playing to a click. The tune in question - appropriately titled "Drunk" - the guitar player wrote it to make you feel, well ... drunk. So the way we played it live, I'm pushing and pulling time; "wobbly" as I'd call it. Impossible to get the right feel staying dead on meter. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

 

[TiScape]

Even though I’m completely out of my depth. I will admit this music talk is far more interesting than talking about picking up n putting down heavy stuff. Thanks guys. I’m enjoying reading it and agree with most of the points/insights being made. 😊

Edited July 31 by TiScape

[Nard_S]

3 minutes ago, aenemated said:

 

Facts.

 

I got pretty lucky on that front. I'd only been playing a couple years and knew even less than I do now. Starting jamming with a dude who was a couple years older and was starting to get into audio engineering and such - so I became the drum recording guinea pig. 

 

We'd hang out for hours and hours, drinking beer and laying down drum parts - all to a click, of course. Little did I know at the time, I was developing a pretty solid internal meter.

 

Over the years when I've sat in with musicians far superior to me; a comment I've always gotten is "Man, your time is rock solid." Which I'm perfectly happy to hear. 

 

Been a long time since I've been in the studio - last time was the TCK record about 15 years ago. Laid down 8 tracks in two days - only one I had to do more than once was one that simply did not work playing to a click. The tune in question - appropriately titled "Drunk" - the guitar player wrote it to make you feel, well ... drunk. So the way we played it live, I'm pushing and pulling time; "wobbly" as I'd call it. Impossible to get the right feel staying dead on meter. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

 

I logged maybe 20 hours doing high end multi-track. We made demo tapes. I loved that studio experience, even spent  a year learning recording engineering after. If I could have changed anything, the gravitation to session work & production would have been the direction i would have been happiest in. Bands are cesspools of ego & dysfunction. Great reason why at top of game, i just walked away altogether. Loved the live thing, props to those (like you) who left some room, carried on stuck with it but at 27 had zero of anything and needed to get hustling at building a new life.