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[aenemated]

Oh yeah, Weenie Roast was last night. Here's where TS tells me to quit smoking ...

 

  

[BIG STU]

18 hours ago, braincramp52 said:

I do have a love for sockethead capscrews.😁

I did seriously learn this. Different Allen Head set screws weigh differently. Learned that when we were messing with the early Bobby Grace Mark 4 V- Foil putters. The Tour Issue heads used hex head Allen Set Screws for weight. Those heads were standard thread 1/4 by 20 threads. Back then we had a real local owned hardware store up in Surfside Beach. We bought quite a few from him and we had a little assortment in a tray in the shop. LOL when I started back messing with my Grace Broomstick I looked for that tray because the hardware store had long since closed down. Never found that tray in my stuff. Basically I said screw it and did it up Stu Style as in get out the roll of lead tape. Of course you fine folks would expect that from me. Now the retail heads have the sexy little 2 pin weights in them. In the past I had talked to a guy up at Bobby Grace who told me at the time they thought the little 2 pin alloy heads were more sexy to the general public. My how times have changed

[BIG STU]

18 hours ago, TiScape said:

I totally agree. The tee shot sets up everything for me. Length isn’t my problem, it’s accuracy. Once I’m in the fairway what type of irons I have is mostly inconsequential, as I’m getting it to the green most of the time. Then as you eluded to, the good short game is paramount. Which reminds me of something I read a while ago in I believe the OG ‘rollback thread’. A member that was adamant that the tee shot was the least important shot in golf and therefore didn’t really matter. I couldn’t disagree more. Perhaps just one of the reasons I despise the rollback thread that won’t die!!!

 

🤣

Putting distance aside it depends a lot on the course on the tee shot. My home course since it is tight and landing spots on the approach shot can be tricky it is very important position wise. The man who designed our course William Byrd was a genius. You go to different tees and you will find different angles to a proper landing spot again discounting distance. Some courses like the Man O War up towards Conway SC is basically wide open. Now you do have hazards but on the drive the fairways in general are wide open and generally it does not make a hill of beans your angle is to the green. Now do not get me wrong it is a great course with plenty of water hazards and fast bent greens and some diabolical greenside traps. Going back to my course we also have small greens and that makes a difference. Right now with our handicapping software where scores can change daily with posting a round I am hovering between 10 and 12. Our Tournament Director and Handicap chairman says If I would get out and play other courses like others do I am a single digit handicap easily. 

[BIG STU]

16 hours ago, scotee said:

 

So true. I play with two guys that come to mind.  One hits off of his back foot and backs up on every shot. He has grooved that move and hits hard and straight and scores way better than his swing. The other is smooth and loose with max wrist c0ck and elbow bend and has a fair amount of early extension with a high hands finish and lots of club shaft rotation around impact. He plays to 5 or better. Both of them have consistent but different tempo.

Good example of what I have always said----- There is no one etched stone proper way to swing and play this game--- I say it and will stand by it to my dying day despite what ANY of the golf swing gurus say including one on our I&A threads have to say---- I learned that by observing many swings at the course my old man ran. One of the reasons when I was a Class A I was never an instructor and up until lately did not think about my personal methods and ways of doing things. Same goes for equipment too.

[BIG STU]

9 hours ago, Soloman1 said:

thinking something and saying something are different. my sensibilities wouldn’t let me make fun of someone’s name i just met. he didn’t choose his name.

 

i used to play a lot of golf with a black guy. he was the general counsel for mlb for a decade and teaches sports law at a university now. every once in a while, he’d needle me when we were playing a match against two other guys. he’d choke on a hole and say, “sure, blame it on the black guy.”

 

i’d fire back later about using my white privilege to win a hole. it was all good because we knew each other well. and it was mocking racism.

 

strangers? i’d never dream of saying it. but, that’s just me.

 

living 25 years in japan in the days when no one would rent an apartment or house to me because of my race taught me a lot about how insidious racism can be.

I have a good black friend of mine whose family has owned a local funeral home for over 65 years. Now we have a funeral home close to me that one of the family owners is a State Senator I cannot stand. I have said it many times before letting them cremate me throw me off the Garden City Pier and let the sharks and fish eat me. My friend knows of my disdain for the guy. I asked him if they would do the deed when I went and just put me in a Folger's Coffee can. He said hell yes! your money is as green as anyone else's but Stuey you will need more than one Folger's can for your big arse and I will also give you a discount to boot

[bscinstnct]

3 minutes ago, BIG STU said:

Good example of what I have always said----- There is no one etched stone proper way to swing and play this game--- I say it and will stand by it to my dying day despite what ANY of the golf swing gurus say including one on our I&A threads have to say---- I learned that by observing many swings at the course my old man ran. One of the reasons when I was a Class A I was never an instructor and up until lately did not think about my personal methods and ways of doing things. Same goes for equipment too.

 

I know nobody think I play golf 🤣

 

And I could count my rounds the past few years of my fingers but…

 

back from like 2000-2015, and especially mid 2000s, I played nearly weekly and was at the range quite a bit

 

I mostly played with my fil (RIP), he retired early and I’d play with him and his friends. A few shot in the 80s, which to me is fantastic, and there was a range of ways these guys could play 

 

One guy was really solid off the tee, he’d just pipe drives like 250, and be on/around the green but…his wedge game and putting were horrendous 

 

This other guy would hit low bullets off the tee, not very accurately, lol, but for a big dude, he had the softest hands and could hit all kinds of great wedge shots and was a solid putter

 

My own game was pretty manic, I can hit big tee shots, I’m always aggressive, I’ll try to cut any dogleg, fire for any green, hit over trees. I could hit nice full wedges but had no touch, especially 50 yard in, and greenside, I was a disaster 

 

It’s cause I generally always practiced full shots/driver at the range. And my joy from golf was just watching the ball fly as hight and far as possible lol

[Soloman1]

@scotee’s link earlier reminded me of the story of the hmas melbourne, a small australian carrier. she and her aircraft never fired a shot in anger, but rammed and sank two friendly destroyers in the 1960’s.

 

neither were the fault of the carrier. destroyers position themselves in different guard formations off the carrier during flight ops and both incidents happened during night ops. 1,500-2000 yards away from the carrier.

 

when repositioning, there are to turn away from the carrier to circle to the new position. an australian destroyer turned into the carrier and the collision killed 82 sailors on the destroyer.

 

five years later, in a joint training exercise with us, australian and british ships, the same thing happened when a us navy destroyer did the same thing. 74 us sailors were killed.

 

prior to the last incident, the melbourne captain invited the captains of all the escort ships to dinner and gave explicit written instructions and warnings about always turning away from the melbourne. the fleet admiral on board also emphasized this and discussed the previous incident.

 

but, the uss evans did the same thing. the captain of the evans was sleeping during the night ops and two lieutenants had the bridge. one had failed exams and was unqualified to have the bridge, and the other had never been to sea before. they were all court martialed.

 

the australian navy relieved both melbourne captains in both instances in a rush to blame them. they both resigned in defiance, but were exonerated later.

 

anyway, what the heck is going on now in the us navy? in the past 15 months, 31 ships captains have been relieved of duty for lack of confidence in their leadership or misconduct.

[BIG STU]

8 hours ago, dashanks said:

BTW, I like The Mick.  Although as an Irish-American, I am offended by that term.

We actually offended an Irish guy one day at the course and did not mean to. He was paired with us in a Shootout. We had a flop shot to a Par 5 and my bud Big Bear said Stuey get out Philly Mick. What he was talking about was my modified PM Cally wedge that we call Philly Mick for obvious reasons. This guy got bet out of shape and we explained things to him. apparently he did not know anything about golf because it went over his head but after he figured no malice was intended he was confused but ok the rest of the day. 

[dashanks]

7 hours ago, Reasonability said:

No need to hang a man who's plenty capable of getting the job done all by himself.  

 

I don't own the joint.  It's yours (collectively).  It'd be nice if thread lock could be avoided.  All I got.    

Just wanted to once again explain that there was no disrespect or effort to offend anyone intended.   To me, the joke was more about marriage than the fact that the folks were Asian (other than him being named Wong was what made it possible).  Nevertheless, mea culpa, I guess.   I offer my sincere apologies.

[Soloman1]

it morphed into talk about racism, but understand completely it was the name thing. It was a funny thought.

[dashanks]

6 minutes ago, BIG STU said:

We actually offended an Irish guy one day at the course and did not mean to. He was paired with us in a Shootout. We had a flop shot to a Par 5 and my bud Big Bear said Stuey get out Philly Mick. What he was talking about was my modified PM Cally wedge that we call Philly Mick for obvious reasons. This guy got bet out of shape and we explained things to him. apparently he did not know anything about golf because it went over his head but after he figured no malice was intended he was confused but ok the rest of the day. 

I actually should have put a Smiley face on that because I wasn't serious at all.  In the context that was going on at the time, I thought it was kind of funny.   Guess I need to be more careful because my sense of humor apparently comes pretty close to crossing the line around here.  The last thing in the world that I am looking for is an internet forum dust-up.  Life's too short.

[braincramp52]

23 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

I know nobody think I play golf 🤣

 

And I could count my rounds the past few years of my fingers but…

 

back from like 2000-2015, and especially mid 2000s, I played nearly weekly and was at the range quite a bit

 

I mostly played with my fil (RIP), he retired early and I’d play with him and his friends. A few shot in the 80s, which to me is fantastic, and there was a range of ways these guys could play 

 

One guy was really solid off the tee, he’d just pipe drives like 250, and be on/around the green but…his wedge game and putting were horrendous 

 

This other guy would hit low bullets off the tee, not very accurately, lol, but for a big dude, he had the softest hands and could hit all kinds of great wedge shots and was a solid putter

 

My own game was pretty manic, I can hit big tee shots, I’m always aggressive, I’ll try to cut any dogleg, fire for any green, hit over trees. I could hit nice full wedges but had no touch, especially 50 yard in, and greenside, I was a disaster 

 

It’s cause I generally always practiced full shots/driver at the range. And my joy from golf was just watching the ball fly as hight and far as possible lol

You need to get your priority's straight and get your butt out on the course! 😄 

[bscinstnct]

26 minutes ago, BIG STU said:

We actually offended an Irish guy one day at the course and did not mean to. He was paired with us in a Shootout. We had a flop shot to a Par 5 and my bud Big Bear said Stuey get out Philly Mick. What he was talking about was my modified PM Cally wedge that we call Philly Mick for obvious reasons. This guy got bet out of shape and we explained things to him. apparently he did not know anything about golf because it went over his head but after he figured no malice was intended he was confused but ok the rest of the day. 

 

22 minutes ago, dashanks said:

Just wanted to once again explain that there was no disrespect or effort to offend anyone intended.   To me, the joke was more about marriage than the fact that the folks were Asian (other than him being named Wong was what made it possible).  Nevertheless, mea culpa, I guess.   I offer my sincere apologies.

 

I had occasion to play some golf in Ireland, was there for a wedding, wife has family that had lived in county Clare for many generations and one of her uncles took us out To a local course with all Irish folks playing 

 

Mostly, they really play the ball on the ground. Low tee shots, often with irons, and it’s effective as the ball really rolls out and less risk of putting it in the fescue

 

Also, they generally putt when off the green since it’s links. 
 

And the weather! One day we were out there, it was sunny when we started then I see these massive black storm clouds rolling in off the ocean. I scramble to put on my rain gear and wife’s uncle laughs like,

 

By the time you put that all on it will stop raining

 

And he was pretty much right 🤣

Edited March 8, 2024 by bscinstnct

[braincramp52]

5 minutes ago, dashanks said:

I actually should have put a Smiley face on that because I wasn't serious at all.  In the context that was going on at the time, I thought it was kind of funny.   Guess I need to be more careful because my sense of humor apparently comes pretty close to crossing the line around here.  The last thing in the world that I am looking for is an internet forum dust-up.  Life's too short.

That's my problem. My sense of humor is way out there. That and the fact that when I was selling, half of the sales call was me and my customers seeing who could get the best insults in against each other. And I did that for 37 years. Old habits die hard.😄

[dashanks]

2 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

 

 

I had occasion to play some golf in Ireland, was there for a wedding, wife had  family has lived in county Clare for many generations and one of her uncles took us out To a local course with all Irish folks playing 

 

Mostly, they really play the ball on the ground. Low tee shots, often with irons, and it’s effective as the ball really rolls out and less risk of putting it in the fescue

 

Also, they generally putt when off the green since it’s links. 
 

And the weather! One day we were out there, it was sunny when we started then I see these massive black storm clouds rolling in off the ocean. I scramble to put on my rain gear and wife’s uncle laughs like,

 

By the time you put that all on it will stop raining

 

And he was pretty much right 🤣

Some real links golf over there is #1 on my bucket list.

[dashanks]

3 minutes ago, braincramp52 said:

That's my problem. My sense of humor is way out there. That and the fact that when I was selling, half of the sales call was me and my customers seeing who could get the best insults in against each other. And I did that for 37 years. Old habits die hard.😄

I feel you.  For me, 20 years NYPD.  Nobody comes out of that without getting a little warped.

[braincramp52]

4 minutes ago, dashanks said:

I feel you.  For me, 20 years NYPD.  Nobody comes out of that without getting a little warped.

When customers would call me at home, after I hung up my wife would tell me she couldn't understand why people bought from me the way I talked to them.😅  She could never wrap her head around the fact that we always talked to each other that way. I had a couple of buddies that were retired Chicago PD so I totally get where you're coming from. 😄

[dashanks]

4 minutes ago, braincramp52 said:

When customers would call me at home, after I hung up my wife would tell me she couldn't understand why people bought from me the way I talked to them.😅  She could never wrap her head around the fact that we always talked to each other that way. I had a couple of buddies that were retired Chicago PD so I totally get where you're coming from. 😄

I suppose it's harder to be sensitive when you literally cannot be insulted.

[braincramp52]

11 minutes ago, dashanks said:

I suppose it's harder to be sensitive when you literally cannot be insulted.

😂😂 You are 100%  right!!! You pretty well have to be a physical threat to get me ticked off. Insulting my wife or family is a different story.😄

Edited March 8, 2024 by braincramp52

[dashanks]

5 minutes ago, braincramp52 said:

😂😂 You are 100%  right!!! You pretty well have to be a physical threat to get me ticked off. Insulting my wife or family is a different story.😄

I actually get a kick out of insults that I haven't heard before.   There aren't a lot of them out there.

[bladehunter]

1 hour ago, Soloman1 said:

@scotee’s link earlier reminded me of the story of the hmas melbourne, a small australian carrier. she and her aircraft never fired a shot in anger, but rammed and sank two friendly destroyers in the 1960’s.

 

neither were the fault of the carrier. destroyers position themselves in different guard formations off the carrier during flight ops and both incidents happened during night ops. 1,500-2000 yards away from the carrier.

 

when repositioning, there are to turn away from the carrier to circle to the new position. an australian destroyer turned into the carrier and the collision killed 82 sailors on the destroyer.

 

five years later, in a joint training exercise with us, australian and british ships, the same thing happened when a us navy destroyer did the same thing. 74 us sailors were killed.

 

prior to the last incident, the melbourne captain invited the captains of all the escort ships to dinner and gave explicit written instructions and warnings about always turning away from the melbourne. the fleet admiral on board also emphasized this and discussed the previous incident.

 

but, the uss evans did the same thing. the captain of the evans was sleeping during the night ops and two lieutenants had the bridge. one had failed exams and was unqualified to have the bridge, and the other had never been to sea before. they were all court martialed.

 

the australian navy relieved both melbourne captains in both instances in a rush to blame them. they both resigned in defiance, but were exonerated later.

 

anyway, what the heck is going on now in the us navy? in the past 15 months, 31 ships captains have been relieved of duty for lack of confidence in their leadership or misconduct.

Good question.  I have a recently retired Navy chief and a current marine LT as customers. I’ll see what the grapevine is saying is the cause.  The marine is coming in Thursday to see me anyway.  

[braincramp52]

4 minutes ago, dashanks said:

I actually get a kick out of insults that I haven't heard before.   There aren't a lot of them out there.

There's not many things better in life than getting complimented on a insult that you bestowed upon someone.😂

[Soloman1]

34 minutes ago, dashanks said:

I suppose it's harder to be sensitive when you literally cannot be insulted.

 

bullsh!t!

 

 

 

was waiting for just the right moment to get you back... 🙂

 

[dashanks]

15 minutes ago, Soloman1 said:

 

bullsh!t!

 

 

 

was waiting for just the right moment to get you back... 🙂

 

Well done, sir.  Glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read that!

[bladehunter]

44 minutes ago, braincramp52 said:

When customers would call me at home, after I hung up my wife would tell me she couldn't understand why people bought from me the way I talked to them.😅  She could never wrap her head around the fact that we always talked to each other that way. I had a couple of buddies that were retired Chicago PD so I totally get where you're coming from. 😄

Amen.  I use it as a way to cull the sensitive.  I don’t wish to work for those who are offended or upset easily.  They are not profitable.  Always too much trouble. 

[braincramp52]

4 minutes ago, dashanks said:

Well done, sir.  Glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read that!

@Soloman1 is a sneaky insulter. You have to admire that.😅

[dashanks]

Time to go deal with reality.  Later, gentlemen.

[braincramp52]

2 minutes ago, dashanks said:

Time to go deal with reality.  Later, gentlemen.

Stay safe out there !

[BIG STU]

1 hour ago, dashanks said:

I feel you.  For me, 20 years NYPD.  Nobody comes out of that without getting a little warped.

Thank you for your service even though I do not live there. Still I back the blue. I have worked side by side with them over they years being a Volunteer Firefighter/First Responder and owning and working a wrecker service. When we were in the wrecker business we worked with 3 different LE agencies on a daily basis and sometimes a 4th. Our county is the only county in SC with separate county police and Sheriff's Department. Our Sheriff's department mostly runs the jail and courthouse plus serves warrants. But every now and again they get into a enforcement situation requiring a vehicle being towed. One time with them I was summoned to tow a vehicle involved in a DUI death incident from impound to the courthouse for a jury to see in person.

And yes by working with and being around quite a few LEOs in past years I have also developed a cynical and nutty side too. IMHO it is a way to keep ones sanity. I had noticed my last years in the wrecker service I had developed the early stages of PTSD. I would be at an incident and remember bad wrecks I had worked in the past as a first responder. So yes I am right on board with you being in LE in of all places NYC

[BIG STU]

7 hours ago, aenemated said:

Oh yeah, Weenie Roast was last night. Here's where TS tells me to quit smoking ...

 

  

You will not ever hear any anti tobacco sentiment from this guy. Like you I was raised around it. And I say life is too short not to enjoy what you like. Hey I chew mine up mostly and you burn yours up. But I do smoke cigars on the golf course from time to time. I can really give the anti tobacco crowd something to talk about because on those occasions I smoke cigars and chew at the same time. Hey if it ends up killing me well then I do what makes me happy