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I'll gladly play the PXGs if someone wants to give me a set. A sweet spot

the size of Texas is right up my alley.

I'm still waiting for a set to turn up in a yard sale.

yard sale that is one of my favorite golf equipment stores along with the scrap pile at work and Goodwill

I hear ya, but I don't expect to find any PXG clubs showing up any time soon!

Crab never give up hope you would be surprised at what comes through the yard at work. I mean who would have thought I would find not one but two Scottys in 3 days from different lots and then last week I found that Forged Yonex and I will tell you that putter is super rare on this side of the pond. heck one day I found a new Scor wedge still had the stickers on it traded it to one of the assistants at my course for some kind of mallet looking TM Ghost that I will trade later. My holy grail list of finds would be a set of Miura baby blades or Tournament blades. You never know around here

Driver--- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha--- Speeder 565 R flex

7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

Irons 5 thru 9 1985 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

PW-- 1962 Macgregor FC-400 11 iron Pro Pel 2 shaft

SW -- Callaway Mac Daddy 52* 

LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

Putter -- Ping Zing 2 SS Fluted Bulls Eye shaft

Down to only 11 clubs playing the best since my accident

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The putt is one of the most mysterious parts of the game. It's understandable when a drive drifts 30 yds off target - the club is travelling 100 mph and the ball is in the air such a long time any discrepancy between face and path will get magnified. But a 6 ft putt? I should be able to make a 6 ft putt with the head of a nail attached to a broom handle. The clubhead is travelling 1 mph, you don't have to rotate back and down through absurd positions, and thus you can carefully control path and face angle. And yet, it drives you crazy how hard a 6 footer is to make.

The world is a mysterious and chaotic place. Why are 6 ft putts so difficult? Why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways? Why are they called apartments when they're all attached? Why is it so difficult to understand women - we are the same species, they need us and we need them, but .... mystery prevails. When searching for such answers, there is no destination, only the journey.

 

Two VERY well written posts here at the Grille. Well played gents! Love the mysteries of putting - terminology - life - and the journey they all are.

 

See it - feel it - do it. Common theme to just about all of the above. Personally struggle with the see it part (on a couple of levels).

 

Oh and regardless of a putter's weight - or grip - or brand - or cost... If there were one thing I'd teach a newbie with words - it would be to avoid rotation of the face of the putter. If there was anything I would show them... it would a film marathon of Ben Crenshaw, Dave Stockton, Michael Breed, etc. If there anything I could give them - it would be unlimited access to a decent practice green attached to 18 real ones. And if there were anything I could wish for them - it would be hoping they actually never fully crack the code.

IMHO you can leave Breed out of that comparison. Trust me I am a student of both Crenshaw and Stockton

Driver--- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha--- Speeder 565 R flex

7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

Irons 5 thru 9 1985 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

PW-- 1962 Macgregor FC-400 11 iron Pro Pel 2 shaft

SW -- Callaway Mac Daddy 52* 

LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

Putter -- Ping Zing 2 SS Fluted Bulls Eye shaft

Down to only 11 clubs playing the best since my accident

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The bulls eye was the predecessor to my current gamer. That poor thing... I mutilated the living snot out of it. Bent it in my shop vice with a rubber mallet to allow me to forward press the handle (just beat it to smithereens)... took the handle off and poured sand down the shaft followed by a glue-soaked cotton ball to add weight - added a 4" extension to the butt end - tried all sorts of grips. It was everything but what it was designed to do when I was done - lol. Once broke the shaft at the hosel trying to bend it - and glued a dowel stick inside like a splint and duct taped over the visible damage.. Man that poor thing should have exploded form all the butchering I gave her. So I'm a bad guy to give opines on the Bulls Eye cause mine suffered from an identity crisis. lol

ROTFLMAO!! and I thought that one Mark McNulty on the Senior Tour putts with was rough. Man you can see the heat marks where the hosel was bent. That thing is rough I think someone who knows him told me he has been putting with that thing for 40 years. Man if you still have it you absolutely have to post pics. To be honest sounds like some of my mutilations when I was learning

Driver--- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha--- Speeder 565 R flex

7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

Irons 5 thru 9 1985 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

PW-- 1962 Macgregor FC-400 11 iron Pro Pel 2 shaft

SW -- Callaway Mac Daddy 52* 

LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

Putter -- Ping Zing 2 SS Fluted Bulls Eye shaft

Down to only 11 clubs playing the best since my accident

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My my my, a 4lb poisonous toad. 200 million of them!

 

We have different problem here. Someone years ago thought it would

be a good idea to being an invasive vine here for a reason I can't

remember now. That vine (kudsu) is all over the south. It'll take over

a whole friggin' neighborhood and kill as many trees as it can.

 

On the other hand, me being a native Californian, I was grateful for all

the beautiful Eucalyptus trees brought there from down under.

 

Many people don't know that horses were not indigenous to the US but

were brought here by the Spaniards. They are so much a part of American

history and culture that they just seem to most like they were always here

running wild on the prairies.

The story I was always told that Kudsu was an ornamental plant overseas and some of the returning servicemen brought potted versions home from WW2. And the stuff thrived in the South. You can not kill that stuff unless you cut it and concrete over it. I do not know if the story I was always told when growing up was a fact or just a old wives tale--- You know how those old wives tales are especially down South

Driver--- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha--- Speeder 565 R flex

7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

Irons 5 thru 9 1985 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

PW-- 1962 Macgregor FC-400 11 iron Pro Pel 2 shaft

SW -- Callaway Mac Daddy 52* 

LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

Putter -- Ping Zing 2 SS Fluted Bulls Eye shaft

Down to only 11 clubs playing the best since my accident

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Tol, there's another Aussie chap (Nomad Golfer) that posts regularly in Classic. Also, Old Player is an Aussie IIRC. Maybe should arrange an introduction here in the Grille

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Oldplayer is for sure an Aussie and FYI he is a WRX mega-ho. He has more clubs/iron sets than anybody else I have encountered on WRX...much club knowledge he has.

 

Portland luckily only has a "harmless" (<- as in they can't kill a golfer) nutria infestation. They were transplanted here from South America and now compete with the indigenous beavers and they tear up native plants and soil. They are like big brown rats.

Oldplayer has a lot of stuff for sure but you ought to see Moaning M,s WITB post it is in the arcives and Teevons does not have one fricking idea how much stuff he has he ended up with the famous Niles Hoard which is legendary over in the Classics Forum. Teevons has a lot of stuff with real pedigree and some rare stuff plus he is an excellent restorer of persimmon woods. Heck some think I am a ho but I am not a drop in the bucket compaired to those 3 guys just ask Fella

Driver--- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha--- Speeder 565 R flex

7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

Irons 5 thru 9 1985 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

PW-- 1962 Macgregor FC-400 11 iron Pro Pel 2 shaft

SW -- Callaway Mac Daddy 52* 

LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

Putter -- Ping Zing 2 SS Fluted Bulls Eye shaft

Down to only 11 clubs playing the best since my accident

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I don't appreciate the Illinois winters but do like the lack of dangerous creatures. They say we have no poisonous snakes but you will hear people say they've seen the occasional Water Moccasin. White Tail deer are abundant. In the fall when they go in rut you have to be careful driving. The gnats and mosquitoes are annoying but all in all there's nothing here too dangerous...just annoying. If you can dodge the tornadoes, you're good to go.

 

Sounds like Ohio... we don't have any snakes or anything, weather isn't so bad, but we do have cottontail rabbits, I have a few in my backyard, wow, they're scary... they eat clover and stuff, then they run like all over when they see you, heck, who knows what they do when you're asleep... probably sneaking up on your house with ideas to get rid of you, ears up, those big eyes lookin' in, ugh, the very thought, no wonder we can't sleep. Good thing we have our own rabbit to protect us, eh Thug?

 

Yes sir, the thugster is our guard bunny, although he is getting old. Is that a lop you have?

 

Yes, Muffin the Holland Lop...

 

I apologize to the world... my dear sweet wife dresses him up and puts him in a stroller (he lets you do anything) and says it for the grandkids to play with (right) :) pic of her and her pal (that could be me she's hugging, ha..) the rabbit is 8, she is 61... what happened to me I don't know...

My wife thinks that is the neatest thing she loves rabbits. We have had some wild ones show up this year around the house. They have not been any around here in the last couple of years or so. We have one giant one in the backyard he is not too scared of us but he will not let us get too close. If you get too close he will not scamper off in afterburner gear but he will slowly hop off and then turn around and look

Driver--- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha--- Speeder 565 R flex

7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

Irons 5 thru 9 1985 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

PW-- 1962 Macgregor FC-400 11 iron Pro Pel 2 shaft

SW -- Callaway Mac Daddy 52* 

LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

Putter -- Ping Zing 2 SS Fluted Bulls Eye shaft

Down to only 11 clubs playing the best since my accident

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The putt is one of the most mysterious parts of the game. It's understandable when a drive drifts 30 yds off target - the club is travelling 100 mph and the ball is in the air such a long time any discrepancy between face and path will get magnified. But a 6 ft putt? I should be able to make a 6 ft putt with the head of a nail attached to a broom handle. The clubhead is travelling 1 mph, you don't have to rotate back and down through absurd positions, and thus you can carefully control path and face angle. And yet, it drives you crazy how hard a 6 footer is to make.

The world is a mysterious and chaotic place. Why are 6 ft putts so difficult? Why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways? Why are they called apartments when they're all attached? Why is it so difficult to understand women - we are the same species, they need us and we need them, but .... mystery prevails. When searching for such answers, there is no destination, only the journey.

 

Two VERY well written posts here at the Grille. Well played gents! Love the mysteries of putting - terminology - life - and the journey they all are.

 

See it - feel it - do it. Common theme to just about all of the above. Personally struggle with the see it part (on a couple of levels).

 

Oh and regardless of a putter's weight - or grip - or brand - or cost... If there were one thing I'd teach a newbie with words - it would be to avoid rotation of the face of the putter. If there was anything I would show them... it would a film marathon of Ben Crenshaw, Dave Stockton, Michael Breed, etc. If there anything I could give them - it would be unlimited access to a decent practice green attached to 18 real ones. And if there were anything I could wish for them - it would be hoping they actually never fully crack the code.

IMHO you can leave Breed out of that comparison. Trust me I am a student of both Crenshaw and Stockton

 

Poor Michael... LMAO.

 

When you described the way you trust your eyes and brain to feel the distance - I KNEW you must be a Stockton fan. I like his stuff, too. .

 

That old B's Eye.... She's probably buried deep in the shop somewhere. Haven't gamed her in decades but if she pops anytime soon up I'll gladly post a pic or two. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who mangled a club over the years! The plan eventually is to bench grind some wedges. That will be a hoot!.... sparks will fly and heaven knows what craziness will come from it. ....maybe a missing finger or two! That old putter is probably back in a cobweb filled corner telling old wedges beside her to run for their lives!

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My my my, a 4lb poisonous toad. 200 million of them!

 

We have different problem here. Someone years ago thought it would

be a good idea to being an invasive vine here for a reason I can't

remember now. That vine (kudsu) is all over the south. It'll take over

a whole friggin' neighborhood and kill as many trees as it can.

 

On the other hand, me being a native Californian, I was grateful for all

the beautiful Eucalyptus trees brought there from down under.

 

Many people don't know that horses were not indigenous to the US but

were brought here by the Spaniards. They are so much a part of American

history and culture that they just seem to most like they were always here

running wild on the prairies.

 

I believe Grass/Lawn is not native to North America either. Weed, however.......???

 

In California Bermuda grass is a weed. Here in Bama it's your golf course.

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Manicures and pedicures are just not my thing, but I love me a quality massage from a trained professional. Hand and foot massages, back, hamstrings, calves, shoulders, neck, temples, I could go on and on.

 

EVERYONE likes a massage. I'll take a massage AND a pedicure AND....

 

....BungeeJumping?

 

I know it as a Special Finish. Not through experience, mind. I was offered one once in China but politely declined.

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Manicures and pedicures are just not my thing, but I love me a quality massage from a trained professional. Hand and foot massages, back, hamstrings, calves, shoulders, neck, temples, I could go on and on.

 

EVERYONE likes a massage. I'll take a massage AND a pedicure AND....

 

....BungeeJumping?

 

I know it as a Special Finish. Not through experience, mind. I was offered one once in China but politely declined.

 

In the US it is called a Happy Ending. I only know of this through reading it on the internet.

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It's finally just about here! US Open at Oakmont next week!

 

Tough tough course. I think +3 was Angel's winning score last time.

 

So who wins??? Personally, I want a bloody dogfight and carnage!

 

With Jordan, Jason, Rory et al. I want to see the best duke it out.

I think Angel's score was higher than that and tobacco stocks soared that week with as many cigs as he smoked especially the last 9 holes. I think he has quit smoking now. Oh it will be a dogfight all right especially on the greens. I think this year someone will win it that we least expect to win. That course is tough enough in "stock" form with out the USGA 'tricking it up"

Driver--- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha--- Speeder 565 R flex

7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

Irons 5 thru 9 1985 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

PW-- 1962 Macgregor FC-400 11 iron Pro Pel 2 shaft

SW -- Callaway Mac Daddy 52* 

LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

Putter -- Ping Zing 2 SS Fluted Bulls Eye shaft

Down to only 11 clubs playing the best since my accident

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I don't appreciate the Illinois winters but do like the lack of dangerous creatures. They say we have no poisonous snakes but you will hear people say they've seen the occasional Water Moccasin. White Tail deer are abundant. In the fall when they go in rut you have to be careful driving. The gnats and mosquitoes are annoying but all in all there's nothing here too dangerous...just annoying. If you can dodge the tornadoes, you're good to go.

 

Sounds like Ohio... we don't have any snakes or anything, weather isn't so bad, but we do have cottontail rabbits, I have a few in my backyard, wow, they're scary... they eat clover and stuff, then they run like all over when they see you, heck, who knows what they do when you're asleep... probably sneaking up on your house with ideas to get rid of you, ears up, those big eyes lookin' in, ugh, the very thought, no wonder we can't sleep. Good thing we have our own rabbit to protect us, eh Thug?

 

Yes sir, the thugster is our guard bunny, although he is getting old. Is that a lop you have?

 

Yes, Muffin the Holland Lop...

 

I apologize to the world... my dear sweet wife dresses him up and puts him in a stroller (he lets you do anything) and says it for the grandkids to play with (right) :) pic of her and her pal (that could be me she's hugging, ha..) the rabbit is 8, she is 61... what happened to me I don't know...

My wife thinks that is the neatest thing she loves rabbits. We have had some wild ones show up this year around the house. They have not been any around here in the last couple of years or so. We have one giant one in the backyard he is not too scared of us but he will not let us get too close. If you get too close he will not scamper off in afterburner gear but he will slowly hop off and then turn around and look

 

 

There are occaisionaly wild hares in Australia, rabbits are too good for the other wildlife to eat.

Way down under in (not New Orleans) Australia.

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It's finally just about here! US Open at Oakmont next week!

 

Tough tough course. I think +3 was Angel's winning score last time.

 

So who wins??? Personally, I want a bloody dogfight and carnage!

 

With Jordan, Jason, Rory et al. I want to see the best duke it out.

I think Angel's score was higher than that and tobacco stocks soared that week with as many cigs as he smoked especially the last 9 holes. I think he has quit smoking now. Oh it will be a dogfight all right especially on the greens. I think this year someone will win it that we least expect to win. That course is tough enough in "stock" form with out the USGA 'tricking it up"

 

It's certainly going to be interesting. Personally I enjoy seeing the pros pushed to the limits once a year.

 

At this stage, it's hard to see beyond Spieth or Day. Maybe Matsuyama might put in another good show too (though he often seems to struggle on major Sundays when in contention).

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My my my, a 4lb poisonous toad. 200 million of them!

 

We have different problem here. Someone years ago thought it would

be a good idea to being an invasive vine here for a reason I can't

remember now. That vine (kudsu) is all over the south. It'll take over

a whole friggin' neighborhood and kill as many trees as it can.

 

On the other hand, me being a native Californian, I was grateful for all

the beautiful Eucalyptus trees brought there from down under.

 

Many people don't know that horses were not indigenous to the US but

were brought here by the Spaniards. They are so much a part of American

history and culture that they just seem to most like they were always here

running wild on the prairies.

 

I believe Grass/Lawn is not native to North America either. Weed, however.......???

 

In California Bermuda grass is a weed. Here in Bama it's your golf course.

It was always that way in the South growing up for me. Most of the public courses in my area had a hybrid Bermuda called 328 Tifton because it was developed and grown at a turfgrass farm in Tifton GA. Man could I putt that stuff and then I ventured out and had to learn to putt bent grass which is also a strand of Bermuda. But once I learned bent it was on then. Had to learn speed and break on bent. I think now a lot of the courses are getting away from Bermuda especially down here and in the South in the heat bent is almost non existant. Man I can remember those courses that had bent back in the day had big fans mounted on poles beside the greens to keep the bent from burning up especially on really sun exposed greens. Old Carolina Country Club in Charlotte had those fans as did Sedgefield (Site of the old GGO) in Greensboro NC. Most of the courses in this area are Po Trivilaus or Mini Verde. Only one course here I know of has converted to the Seaside Paspalum. I have played that course 1 time and the greens putt funny and I can not read a break worth a hoot

Driver--- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha--- Speeder 565 R flex

7W --- TM V Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex

Irons 5 thru 9 1985 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex #2 shafts

PW-- 1962 Macgregor FC-400 11 iron Pro Pel 2 shaft

SW -- Callaway Mac Daddy 52* 

LW Vokey SM5 L Grind 58* 04 bounce Stock Vokey Shaft

Putter -- Ping Zing 2 SS Fluted Bulls Eye shaft

Down to only 11 clubs playing the best since my accident

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I don't appreciate the Illinois winters but do like the lack of dangerous creatures. They say we have no poisonous snakes but you will hear people say they've seen the occasional Water Moccasin. White Tail deer are abundant. In the fall when they go in rut you have to be careful driving. The gnats and mosquitoes are annoying but all in all there's nothing here too dangerous...just annoying. If you can dodge the tornadoes, you're good to go.

 

Sounds like Ohio... we don't have any snakes or anything, weather isn't so bad, but we do have cottontail rabbits, I have a few in my backyard, wow, they're scary... they eat clover and stuff, then they run like all over when they see you, heck, who knows what they do when you're asleep... probably sneaking up on your house with ideas to get rid of you, ears up, those big eyes lookin' in, ugh, the very thought, no wonder we can't sleep. Good thing we have our own rabbit to protect us, eh Thug?

 

Yes sir, the thugster is our guard bunny, although he is getting old. Is that a lop you have?

 

Yes, Muffin the Holland Lop...

 

I apologize to the world... my dear sweet wife dresses him up and puts him in a stroller (he lets you do anything) and says it for the grandkids to play with (right) :) pic of her and her pal (that could be me she's hugging, ha..) the rabbit is 8, she is 61... what happened to me I don't know...

My wife thinks that is the neatest thing she loves rabbits. We have had some wild ones show up this year around the house. They have not been any around here in the last couple of years or so. We have one giant one in the backyard he is not too scared of us but he will not let us get too close. If you get too close he will not scamper off in afterburner gear but he will slowly hop off and then turn around and look

 

Our back yard is surrounded by hedges, so it makes the perfect place for rabbits to hang out and eat, and play, and multiply. We have two that fell in love and did that, now they hang out together all the time it seems, or maybe their kids do, eat together, run off together... then there's a teeny one the size of your fist now that doesn't seem to know what to do, so cute, my wife of course just wants to bring it in, but you can't catch it.. she probably just wants to dress it up... I do the Monty Python thing and tell It "Run Away!"

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My my my, a 4lb poisonous toad. 200 million of them!

 

We have different problem here. Someone years ago thought it would

be a good idea to being an invasive vine here for a reason I can't

remember now. That vine (kudsu) is all over the south. It'll take over

a whole friggin' neighborhood and kill as many trees as it can.

 

On the other hand, me being a native Californian, I was grateful for all

the beautiful Eucalyptus trees brought there from down under.

 

Many people don't know that horses were not indigenous to the US but

were brought here by the Spaniards. They are so much a part of American

history and culture that they just seem to most like they were always here

running wild on the prairies.

The story I was always told that Kudsu was an ornamental plant overseas and some of the returning servicemen brought potted versions home from WW2. And the stuff thrived in the South. You can not kill that stuff unless you cut it and concrete over it. I do not know if the story I was always told when growing up was a fact or just a old wives tale--- You know how those old wives tales are especially down South

 

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I Googled it, your not that far from the truth. While it's easy and convenient to point the finger at specific people and/or circumstances, the fact is that, in today's technological miracles, such as planes, super tankers/ships and massive imports, just about anything is bound to be transferred from any point A to any Point B, anywhere on the planet. If we dare complain, they'll reply: "Nothing personal, it's business!"

 

That's what happens when you build too many bridges, and not enough firewalls. :rofl:

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3+W: Srixon Z-Steel, 12.5°, stock SV3005J, stf. (In rotation: 3W, 14.5°)
5W: Srixon Z-Steel, 18.5° stock SV3005J, stf
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My my my, a 4lb poisonous toad. 200 million of them!

 

We have different problem here. Someone years ago thought it would

be a good idea to being an invasive vine here for a reason I can't

remember now. That vine (kudsu) is all over the south. It'll take over

a whole friggin' neighborhood and kill as many trees as it can.

 

On the other hand, me being a native Californian, I was grateful for all

the beautiful Eucalyptus trees brought there from down under.

 

Many people don't know that horses were not indigenous to the US but

were brought here by the Spaniards. They are so much a part of American

history and culture that they just seem to most like they were always here

running wild on the prairies.

The story I was always told that Kudsu was an ornamental plant overseas and some of the returning servicemen brought potted versions home from WW2. And the stuff thrived in the South. You can not kill that stuff unless you cut it and concrete over it. I do not know if the story I was always told when growing up was a fact or just a old wives tale--- You know how those old wives tales are especially down South

 

Some was brought as an ornamental, but the vast majority was actually planted by farmers and the utility companies. Farmers used it experimentally for fodder but found it soured milk. Utility companies and municipalities used it as an inexpensive and effective ground cover to prevent erosion never anticipating how it would thrive in the wet warm climate. They now spend millions every year to mitigate the invasive nature of it.

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Manicures and pedicures are just not my thing, but I love me a quality massage from a trained professional. Hand and foot massages, back, hamstrings, calves, shoulders, neck, temples, I could go on and on.

 

EVERYONE likes a massage. I'll take a massage AND a pedicure AND....

 

....BungeeJumping?

 

I know it as a Special Finish. Not through experience, mind. I was offered one once in China but politely declined.

 

When I was in NYC, in the early '70's, Manhattan was polluted with massage parlors, among other businesses, I know from experience :pimp:

DRIVER: Ping G20, 9.5° w/169D-Tour, reg (Back up: Srixon Z-rw, 9.5°, stf)
3+W: Srixon Z-Steel, 12.5°, stock SV3005J, stf. (In rotation: 3W, 14.5°)
5W: Srixon Z-Steel, 18.5° stock SV3005J, stf
IRONS: Ping i20, 3-PW, stock CFS reg @ D2
PUTTER: Ping Craz-E iWi, w/2x20gr weights, Lamkin Jumbo pistol grip
WEDGES: Ping Glide, 54° SS, 60° TS, stock Ping wedge shafts
BALL: Srixon XV 
CART: SunMountain V1, STEWARTGOLF Z1
BAG: SM H2N0, PING C-130
BACK UP: Ping S58, 3-Pw, stock CS-Lite, stf, @ D2. (Lofts jacked to S55 specs.)

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The putt is one of the most mysterious parts of the game. It's understandable when a drive drifts 30 yds off target - the club is travelling 100 mph and the ball is in the air such a long time any discrepancy between face and path will get magnified. But a 6 ft putt? I should be able to make a 6 ft putt with the head of a nail attached to a broom handle. The clubhead is travelling 1 mph, you don't have to rotate back and down through absurd positions, and thus you can carefully control path and face angle. And yet, it drives you crazy how hard a 6 footer is to make.

The world is a mysterious and chaotic place. Why are 6 ft putts so difficult? Why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways? Why are they called apartments when they're all attached? Why is it so difficult to understand women - we are the same species, they need us and we need them, but .... mystery prevails. When searching for such answers, there is no destination, only the journey.

 

Two VERY well written posts here at the Grille. Well played gents! Love the mysteries of putting - terminology - life - and the journey they all are.

 

See it - feel it - do it. Common theme to just about all of the above. Personally struggle with the see it part (on a couple of levels).

 

Oh and regardless of a putter's weight - or grip - or brand - or cost... If there were one thing I'd teach a newbie with words - it would be to avoid rotation of the face of the putter. If there was anything I would show them... it would a film marathon of Ben Crenshaw, Dave Stockton, Michael Breed, etc. If there anything I could give them - it would be unlimited access to a decent practice green attached to 18 real ones. And if there were anything I could wish for them - it would be hoping they actually never fully crack the code.

IMHO you can leave Breed out of that comparison. Trust me I am a student of both Crenshaw and Stockton

 

Poor Michael... LMAO.

 

When you described the way you trust your eyes and brain to feel the distance - I KNEW you must be a Stockton fan. I like his stuff, too. .

 

That old B's Eye.... She's probably buried deep in the shop somewhere. Haven't gamed her in decades but if she pops anytime soon up I'll gladly post a pic or two. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who mangled a club over the years! The plan eventually is to bench grind some wedges. That will be a hoot!.... sparks will fly and heaven knows what craziness will come from it. ....maybe a missing finger or two! That old putter is probably back in a cobweb filled corner telling old wedges beside her to run for their lives!

 

Reason, grinding a wedge isn't that big of a deal, but you have to figure out what to do about the finish. I ground one with an angle grinder and it turned out pretty well. You have to hand sand it to get it smooth afterwards, but if it's a raw wedge you can just gun blue it. Most are chrome so you would need to strip it, grind it, and have it rechromed. Or you could grind a raw wedge and then have it chromed. That would probably be the best plan. Yururi makes some nice raw wedges, but I would probably play their grind before grinding it myself. I might give it some heel or toe relief if I wasn't crazy about the grind.

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It's finally just about here! US Open at Oakmont next week!

 

Tough tough course. I think +3 was Angel's winning score last time.

 

So who wins??? Personally, I want a bloody dogfight and carnage!

 

With Jordan, Jason, Rory et al. I want to see the best duke it out.

I think Angel's score was higher than that and tobacco stocks soared that week with as many cigs as he smoked especially the last 9 holes. I think he has quit smoking now. Oh it will be a dogfight all right especially on the greens. I think this year someone will win it that we least expect to win. That course is tough enough in "stock" form with out the USGA 'tricking it up"

 

It's certainly going to be interesting. Personally I enjoy seeing the pros pushed to the limits once a year.

 

At this stage, it's hard to see beyond Spieth or Day. Maybe Matsuyama might put in another good show too (though he often seems to struggle on major Sundays when in contention).

 

TOOLed, I guess I will be 'til much later tonight.

 

Ever since Tiger left, so to speak, I catch myself watching more and more LPGA events, unless it's a USGA/PGA/Euro major. I can't wait for next week.

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Matt and Reasy--- I have a lot of wedges I mutated over the years learning to grind actually most of those were cheapos that I bought at the thrifts or yard sales

If the shafts were good I pulled and saved them. Really I have never worried about the finish because especially down here if you play a wedge any amount of time the sole will get worn down and rusty any how. I beat the crap out of wedges any how as many balls as I hit and most of my wedges especially the 56* get the crap beat out of them Those Renegar wedges I tested less than a year ago the 56 is beat to crap. For some reason Cleveland wedges hold up good for me especially the raw finish ones.

Heard a good one today. I got off work real early first time in 2 weeks and rode by the Golfsmith store. As usual was looking through the used clubs and as usual they were too darn high for used crap. This tourist came in and was looking at the used wedges and picked up every used one that was rusty. He looked at me and said you can pick up the rustiest wedges at the beach and every time he comes down (I think he said he was from Ohio) that he buys all he can and resells them back home for a profit. Ok I thought what ever floats their boat. But I assume he is club hoeing and making a profit so that is good. I think he got 6 or 8 wedges. I guess that is some kind of status symbol or poser status where he is from. My crap gets rusty from use and getting the living hell beat out of it. But I did have to chuckle and slid off to the putter section where they had some used beat to crap Newports about as bad as my "Rusty" Santa Fe for $175 I about croaked. One of the salesmen was trying to put the hustle on me on those Newports. To humor him I putted with one of them and exclaimed 'damn this is about as big of a POS as my Newport" which BTW is correct. I may hustle them and sell them my Newport or do some trading. I did putt with one good feeling Betti 8802 style and that thing was sweet but for the $325 price tag it can stay there! I have enough putters and can putt with them good enough and besides if I ended up with it I would absolutely have to use a putter cover which for me is a no no.

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Reason, grinding a wedge isn't that big of a deal, but you have to figure out what to do about the finish. I ground one with an angle grinder and it turned out pretty well. You have to hand sand it to get it smooth afterwards, but if it's a raw wedge you can just gun blue it. Most are chrome so you would need to strip it, grind it, and have it rechromed. Or you could grind a raw wedge and then have it chromed. That would probably be the best plan. Yururi makes some nice raw wedges, but I would probably play their grind before grinding it myself. I might give it some heel or toe relief if I wasn't crazy about the grind.

 

Good intel - When the day comes - it will be more about learning and function than final finish. BUT to your point if/when I produce a gamer of any sort - then final finishing will definitely enter into it. I have some old beaters I can start with. They wouldn't sell for much anyway so may as well whack away. They may well end up with OGA grooves, too. Just say'n.

 

Might be cool one day (if it works) to lay claim to one-of-a-kind wedges. If I ever develop a connection to a CAD and CNC buddy - I'd like to build a putter, too. It doesn't even have to be a gamer. Just something to have that was personally designed and built would be fun.

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Reason, grinding a wedge isn't that big of a deal, but you have to figure out what to do about the finish. I ground one with an angle grinder and it turned out pretty well. You have to hand sand it to get it smooth afterwards, but if it's a raw wedge you can just gun blue it. Most are chrome so you would need to strip it, grind it, and have it rechromed. Or you could grind a raw wedge and then have it chromed. That would probably be the best plan. Yururi makes some nice raw wedges, but I would probably play their grind before grinding it myself. I might give it some heel or toe relief if I wasn't crazy about the grind.

 

Good intel - When the day comes - it will be more about learning and function than final finish. BUT to your point if/when I produce a gamer of any sort - then final finishing will definitely enter into it. I have some old beaters I can start with. They wouldn't sell for much anyway so may as well whack away. They may well end up with OGA grooves, too. Just say'n.

 

Might be cool one day (if it works) to lay claim to one-of-a-kind wedges. If I ever develop a connection to a CAD and CNC buddy - I'd like to build a putter, too. It doesn't even have to be a gamer. Just something to have that was personally designed and built would be fun.

 

Wouldn't a buffer wheel work for smoothing it out vs hand sanding? I only ask because my dad has a electric wheel grinder with 6 buffing wheels on it of various grades. LOL he uses it to grind and polish rocks into jewelry...

 

Reason you should totally get a block of aluminum or whatever a putter head is made out of and just grind away into the shape you want. Then drill a hole for a shaft and call it a day...

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It's finally just about here! US Open at Oakmont next week!

 

Tough tough course. I think +3 was Angel's winning score last time.

 

So who wins??? Personally, I want a bloody dogfight and carnage!

 

With Jordan, Jason, Rory et al. I want to see the best duke it out.

I think Angel's score was higher than that and tobacco stocks soared that week with as many cigs as he smoked especially the last 9 holes. I think he has quit smoking now. Oh it will be a dogfight all right especially on the greens. I think this year someone will win it that we least expect to win. That course is tough enough in "stock" form with out the USGA 'tricking it up"

 

It's certainly going to be interesting. Personally I enjoy seeing the pros pushed to the limits once a year.

 

At this stage, it's hard to see beyond Spieth or Day. Maybe Matsuyama might put in another good show too (though he often seems to struggle on major Sundays when in contention).

 

Casting another vote for a hoped for dogfight that lasts into extra holes. Who? What's been said so far would all work for me. I often find myself pulling for some underdog - like a rookie, or a "Tin Cip" or maybe an guy about to lose his card and just gets hot.

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It's finally just about here! US Open at Oakmont next week!

 

Tough tough course. I think +3 was Angel's winning score last time.

 

So who wins??? Personally, I want a bloody dogfight and carnage!

 

With Jordan, Jason, Rory et al. I want to see the best duke it out.

I think Angel's score was higher than that and tobacco stocks soared that week with as many cigs as he smoked especially the last 9 holes. I think he has quit smoking now. Oh it will be a dogfight all right especially on the greens. I think this year someone will win it that we least expect to win. That course is tough enough in "stock" form with out the USGA 'tricking it up"

 

It's certainly going to be interesting. Personally I enjoy seeing the pros pushed to the limits once a year.

 

At this stage, it's hard to see beyond Spieth or Day. Maybe Matsuyama might put in another good show too (though he often seems to struggle on major Sundays when in contention).

 

Casting another vote for a hoped for dogfight that lasts into extra holes. Who? What's been said so far would all work for me. I often find myself pulling for some underdog - like a rookie, or a "Tin Cip" or maybe an guy about to lose his card and just gets hot.

 

I don't personally follow golf, but if I had to route for someone it would be Bryson just so the whole Golf World flips upside when everyone wants Single Length Irons just like Bryson's winning whats in the bag, LMAO.

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I'm still pulling for Phil. There's something about a righty that plays lefty with a long narrow swing that makes me pull for him. Plus, he could use the money after writing a check for 900k.

 

2 questions.

 

1) I wonder what that's like. "900k? Are you sure? Let me get my checkbook"

 

2) Where does that money go?

 

 

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