bebrassie - Performance Tracking Software/App without tagging

[Peter_b]

They have a feature where you can set the point you aimed for on each shot on the map. That’s pretty cool for analyzing misses — left, right, short, or long — but unfortunately, it’s only available after the round.

It would be great to set that aim point while playing, right on the Birdiemaker page as some of us are measuring anyway. So I submitted a feature request for it.

For example: on the tee, after measuring the distance to a bunker, you could drag the point to where you actually want to land the ball on the fairway — and BB would then save that as your intended target for later shot analysis.

Let’s see if they implement it!

I had an issue where GPS signal was lost. Can not remember having that with Arccos, they are looking into it I hope. Also sometimes while walking a shot was registered when arms movement was large I think they can also solve that by only tracking when stationary.  

I am quite hyped about BB, support is really responsive. 

Edited July 21 by Peter_b

[pnd4pnd]

quick question on this app - do you have to wear the watch on the leading wrist? the only app i know of the allows you to wear the watch on the trailing wrist is roundabout. i'm a righty who plays golf lefty but wear my watch on my left wrist.

 

eric

[Peter_b]

I have not seen this option in the prefs. Shotdetection could be a problem. For US with a lot of lefties they better add this one. Write them an email, Oliver answers within a day or so, sometimes even same day. I understand they address GPS failing on the round for a couple of minutes. I had this once on my first round but never on Arccos or Tangent more than some seconds. I hope they make it high priority as it’s a nogo, GPS in Europe is stable if there is no sunflare like in June. Also they will look into registering arms movement in front of the body as shot from time to time. Also asked them to add option of intended aim as last measurement on the Iphone. This would be great to track left/right/short/long without further input. Idea came to me as they already have intended aim in the after round eval. Moving the crosshair in the birdiebook should pop above the finger. Sounds like a minor thing but having to lift the finger all the time to check the position is annoying. Crosshair should be visible above the finger that moves it.

Their strategy plan aka Birdiebook generation is quite unique. They also have a team management although I cant see how to convince the hole team to use it. Maybe very high level teams and input after round. In my opinion this is the best and cheapest tracking app available. And the listen which is amazing, I hope they pick up an idea of two I threw at them.

 

Edit: there is a lefty setting in the prefs just checked. You will have to test if the Watch app works correctly with that setting. They have a 30 day trial on their website.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 23 by Peter_b

[sonvolt22]

Tangent user here who is losing his love for the app and possibly looking elsewhere.

 

Is this app even geared for the US market or is mostly for Europe? Their Instagram page is certainly not exactly US friendly...

 

Also, the most recent App Store review is four years old.

[Peter_b]

I dont think they focus a market but its made in Germany. The founder is a teaching pro. Dont buy or try in the appstore cheapest is by code on their website. They have 30 day trial on their website. https://www.bebrassie.com/en

Also no idea why they dont keep socials up to date. I revived this thread from 2017. I am quite hyped to have found exactly what I need. 

[Peter_b]

One thing I am maybe not happy about is not setting the number of penalties while you play. The bare minimum would be penalties per hole. Score/Putts/Penalties. If you are not familiar with the course, maybe first time you play it, you might forget where and how many penalties happened. Good golfers push them out of the mind anyways  Would not mind a red number in the score Circle of the hole in the scorecard.

 

Oh and crosshair aiming is not under thumb when moving it pops up. Hallucinating, thought it was. 

Edited July 23 by Peter_b

[Peter_b]

So I am keeping posting my findings on the app. Very egoistic as I want to put some pressure on them to make some very important changes at least from my view. This app has the potential of being the best golf tracking app by far. Is it there? Almost. 

 

In the post processing there are two flaws in my opoinion that are very annoying as your brain has to do some translation work that is totally unnecessary. 

They have no flag, the last number is the flag (different in game on the Iphone you have a flag there) and they name the shot with a number at the end of the shot. So the 1 is the tee shot. Super weird. 1 should be 2 and the last number an F for flag. If you move 1 you move shot two. Super weird.

 

 

 

 

 

 

- On the Apple watch the crown should be used to move the aim up and down, not to zoom at least optionally. The reason is you do that more than zooming and you zoom less than you may move the aim up or down. Should be an option at least.

- they do have problems with GPS, they have to stabilize it. Had a GPS error at the first hole again.

- in the birdie book they need a zoom back to hole if you accidentally zoom out. Happened in my pocket, annoying to find the hole from 10.000 feet.

- minor thing: After entering score and putt automatically jump to next hole, I waited for this not happening.

- pin position set ingame should be available to other BB users as it is in Arccos. Set it for other players please. Upload pin to servers when set. Load available pin of that day at hole.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 25 by Peter_b

[Ollie1860]

On 7/22/2025 at 6:15 AM, pnd4pnd said:

quick question on this app - do you have to wear the watch on the leading wrist? the only app i know of the allows you to wear the watch on the trailing wrist is roundabout. i'm a righty who plays golf lefty but wear my watch on my left wrist.

 

eric

Hi Eric!

No worries — you can wear the watch on either arm. The important thing is to make sure you’ve selected the correct wrist setting in the Watch App and that your handedness is set correctly in the BEBRASSIE app. Once those settings are in place, automatic shot detection will work just fine.

 

Best regards,

Oliver

Edited July 26 by Ollie1860

[Peter_b]

Ahh Mr. BB is here, very nice. I got redirected to Tim with my feature requests. I have high hopes most  of them will be acknowledged. I am such a good tester hahaha. Well I get quickly annoyed by software which may be helpful. BB is already really good and I hope it gets even better. Fingers crossed you guys want the software to improve and resources are available.

Edited July 26 by Peter_b

[CFAnPEI]

I'm a big fan of bebrassie. I have about 200 rounds using it over the past 5-6 years.

Joined again for 2025, about 15 rounds so far.

 

I don't use a watch with it.

Just in pocket. Captures all full swings, most short game swings without having to interface with phone.

At the end of each hole, enter score, open green screen, move putts and pin quickly using the interface.

Takes about 15 seconds.

Back in pocket.

 

Post round, I will edit on laptop as prefer to use mouse. Quicker for me.

Takes about 10 mins to validate shots, clubs. After 5-6 rounds, app guesses quite well what club I used.

 

If someone doesn't care for a watch, or phone but wants excellent data, especially strokes gained, this is the app.

The least intrusive app on the course and in exchange you great data.

 

 

[Peter_b]

Nice, would you agree with my findings it could be made better in an area or two?

[Peter_b]

Btw there is this site that shows GPS Quality per day. There is practically no GPS outage in western Europe. Now I wonder what the other golf trackers do to make sure minor GPS glitches do not result in bad locations. Do they use both GPS trackers Phone and watch at the same time and BB only uses one without comparing?  

I must say there are not many glitches but more than Arccos has and all use the same GPS and GPS readers.

 

https://gpsjam.org/?lat=45.00000&lon=35.00000&z=3.0&date=2025-07-27

 

What would be an interesting feature is to record swing duration, peak acceleration, gyroscope rotation, and tempo ratio (backswing/downswing) from the watch sensors, enabling the detection of statistically significant motion pattern differences between similar clubs like a 6-iron and a 7-iron.

 

After a swing other than distance BB could choose which club it was. It could even record half swings and punches, pitches and chipping with the club.

 

@CFAnPEI You should try the watch the app on it is neat. If they do distance change per crown instead of + - then you wont need to take out the phone often as you would have a very usable birdiebook on your wrist. For now changing distance is bad so you will prefer to take out the phone. Its the best display of a birdiebook I have seen so far on the Apple watch. They also need to solve sync. No other watch takes so long to sync and start. Well Arccos did in the beginning but they solved it somehow.

Edited July 27 by Peter_b

[Peter_b]

Nice skip to next hole after entering score is already built in now. Now entering putts is weird as you can only do so after telling BB the number of putts. So it skips and entering the putts will skip back (just for entering putts, active hole remains the next one). Maybe showing the green after entering putts would be nice and then skipping.

There is no way around entering putts at once after the holes. I forget them quickly. At home? No chance. So I would not mind forcing me. 

Edited August 1 by Peter_b