Masters ticket resellers ( scalpers)

[bladehunter]

Am I the only one who wonders why masters resellers are allowed to use the bst for such ,when resellers of other things are not? ( Nike shoes , certain golf balls etc ). I'm not a fan of these guys being allowed to make. 20x face value when thousands of us who would attend are left out of the lottery every year. Just curious I guess.

[ctfuzz21]

Am I the only one who wonders why masters resellers are allowed to use the bst for such ,when resellers of other things are not? ( Nike shoes , certain golf balls etc ). I'm not a fan of these guys being allowed to make. 20x face value when thousands of us who would attend are left out of the lottery every year. Just curious I guess.

 

I'm glad they're allowed. It allows us who don't win the lottery a chance to go. While more expensive than face value, most WRX'ers I've seen have passed along a discount on here from market price.

 

If you don't wanna buy the tickets, then move along. If I don't want to buy a $3k Tour Cameron, I move along.

[onlyomar]

Why do you care? It doesn't affect you one bit.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

Why do you care? It doesn't affect you one bit.

 

I think one of the rules is selling for profit isn't allowed so selling them for 30 times what you paid for them might violate that. They don't let people sell Nike shoes that went on special for more so I really don't think they should allow tickets to sell for more. Go on StubHub if you need them that badly.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

Why do you care? It doesn't affect you one bit.

 

I think one of the rules is selling for profit isn't allowed so selling them for 30 times what you paid for them might violate that. They don't let people sell Nike shoes that went on special for more so I really don't think they should allow tickets to sell for more. Go on StubHub if you need them that badly.

 

I just read all the rules and selling for profit isn't prohibited but I feel like that section of the website is more or less a place where members can swap/liquidate experiments and not a place where people should make huge amounts off of items that technically aren't supposed to be re-sold.

[uflorida1]

OP - I'll trade you Nike shoes for your masters tickets

[ctfuzz21]

This thread seems like an attempt to start a war. To me, it seems silly for somebody to complain abt the asking price for an item being listed. If it isn't something you're in the market for or doesn't fall in the range that you would be willing to buy it, then why not just move along.

 

The beautiful thing abt the BST is that it is a marketplace for ALL golf related items and a great resource. I would hate to see that change.

 

[Justmuckit]

 

I'm glad they're allowed. It allows us who don't win the lottery a chance to go. While more expensive than face value, most WRX'ers I've seen have passed along a discount on here from market price.

 

If you don't wanna buy the tickets, then move along. If I don't want to buy a $3k Tour Cameron, I move along.

 

This exactly.

[Froo Shon Tay]

I think the last few post have misunderstood the OP post. I think he/she is just asking why is it ok for sellers to make amazing profit flipping Masters tickets while shoe or ball sellers are not? That's how I read it.

[AZBearcat]

They should be able to sell on here. Move on

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

They should be able to sell on here. Move on

 

That's your opinion. Move on.

 

I think this is a good topic to discuss.

[kdog25]

I personally don't give a crap if people try to flip. Markets set pices. You want something pay up. If not move on.

 

However in light of the Nike shoes being shut down it is a valid and interesting point.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

I personally don't give a crap if people try to flip. Markets set pices. You want something pay up. If not move on.

 

However in light of the Nike shoes being shut down it is a valid and interesting point.

 

And you aren't supposed to sell new/uncut shafts due to manufacturers requirements. The Masters prohibits reselling tickets that are received from the lottery so why allow them to be sold here and not new/uncut shafts? Does Matrix have more clout than Augusta?

[etarv13]

I personally don't give a crap if people try to flip. Markets set pices. You want something pay up. If not move on.

 

However in light of the Nike shoes being shut down it is a valid and interesting point.

 

And you aren't supposed to sell new/uncut shafts due to manufacturers requirements. The Masters prohibits reselling tickets that are received from the lottery so why allow them to be sold here and not new/uncut shafts? Does Matrix have more clout than Augusta?

 

 

Difference = Matrix is a sponsor (see bottom of page) and Augusta National is not. Augusta National somewhat encourages (not directly or openly) the resales. They have created an exclusive event (and don't offer more tickets, reopen the list, or make it an open lottery every year) and they don't shut down other sellers. There is a bus parked less than 1 mile from ANGC that advertises purchasing "Golf" tickets on the side. It stays parked there from January until the tournament ends. Don't see any attempts to stop it in their backyard, literally.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

I personally don't give a crap if people try to flip. Markets set pices. You want something pay up. If not move on.

 

However in light of the Nike shoes being shut down it is a valid and interesting point.

 

And you aren't supposed to sell new/uncut shafts due to manufacturers requirements. The Masters prohibits reselling tickets that are received from the lottery so why allow them to be sold here and not new/uncut shafts? Does Matrix have more clout than Augusta?

 

 

Difference = Matrix is a sponsor (see bottom of page) and Augusta National is not. Augusta National somewhat encourages (not directly or openly) the resales. They have created an exclusive event (and don't offer more tickets, reopen the list, or make it an open lottery every year) and they don't shut down other sellers. There is a bus parked less than 1 mile from ANGC that advertises purchasing "Golf" tickets on the side. It stays parked there from January until the tournament ends. Don't see any attempts to stop it in their backyard, literally.

 

The shaft selling rule doesn't state if it is from a sponsor or not so by your logic I can sell a new/uncut Accra shaft but not a Graphite Design. Nike isn't a sponsor so why can't I sell their closeout shoes for a profit?

[Justmuckit]

Seems like these threads pop up every year in the weeks leading up to The Masters, and this isn't going to be popular with some but it's always a variant of:

 

OMG?!?!?! SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME IS MAKING INSANE PROFIT ON SOMETHING I WANT!

 

What exactly is the OP trying to accomplish here? And does anyone - for even a split second - think that he'd sell any extras he had at face value?

 

Sorry that you're not a fan of people making a profit. I'm glad Richard is, because it gives those of us that missed out on the lottery an opportunity to go without getting gouged with "service fees" by Stubhub, etc.

[cardia10]

The Nike shoes were very different as many of those weren't even wanting a profit but were just trying to get them for other guys. Masters tickets are going for 20x face value which is in fact illegal in most states. I could care less as I usually just buy them on the street the week of the tournament for 200 or less per ticket. The mass hysteria here and ebay drives the prices crazy but there are plenty to be had on Washington Rd at a much better price.

[Medic]

Was literally just discussing availability on site in Augusta this morning. A friend of mine is going and said I could join him and get my tickets up there with little trouble and little actual mark-up on practice days. But, and this is HUGE - he also said there are lots of fakes being sold and there is also a question of whether or not the ticket was already used for entry and could then be used again for re-entry.

 

Which, to me, would beg the question as to some assurance that the tickets purchased on the BST were legit or not. Only way to find out is to try to enter with them.

 

Should they be sold on here? Sure, why not? Not my website and if those who own the place wanted to nuke those ads they could/would. I won't lose any sleep over them being there. But nor will I be buying them on here.

 

To me it's pretty simple. The site allows them to be posted as available for purchase. The seller can ask whatever they feel they are worth - but in reality those tickets aren't worth what the seller is asking but instead only what someone is willing to pay for them. If someone is willing to pay a premium on someone else's website with their money, why should anyone care? I must be missing something along the way. Until and unless this is my website (or those complaining), it's not my (or those complaining) choice. As another member said probably best to move on.

[Justmuckit]

Was literally just discussing availability on site in Augusta this morning. A friend of mine is going and said I could join him and get my tickets up there with little trouble and little actual mark-up on practice days. But, and this is HUGE - he also said there are lots of fakes being sold and there is also a question of whether or not the ticket was already used for entry and could then be used again for re-entry.

 

Which, to me, would beg the question as to some assurance that the tickets purchased on the BST were legit or not. Only way to find out is to try to enter with them.

 

Should they be sold on here? Sure, why not? Not my website and if those who own the place wanted to nuke those ads they could/would. I won't lose any sleep over them being there. But nor will I be buying them on here.

 

To me it's pretty simple. The site allows them to be posted as available for purchase. The seller can ask whatever they feel they are worth - but in reality those tickets aren't worth what the seller is asking but instead only what someone is willing to pay for them. If someone is willing to pay a premium on someone else's website with their money, why should anyone care? I must be missing something along the way. Until and unless this is my website (or those complaining), it's not my (or those complaining) choice. As another member said probably best to move on.

 

Nailed it, Medic.

[uflorida1]

Also not like the Masters tickets are totally clogging up the BST. Tons of pairs of $20 shoes being sold for $25 is a different story

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

Was literally just discussing availability on site in Augusta this morning. A friend of mine is going and said I could join him and get my tickets up there with little trouble and little actual mark-up on practice days. But, and this is HUGE - he also said there are lots of fakes being sold and there is also a question of whether or not the ticket was already used for entry and could then be used again for re-entry.

 

Which, to me, would beg the question as to some assurance that the tickets purchased on the BST were legit or not. Only way to find out is to try to enter with them.

 

Should they be sold on here? Sure, why not? Not my website and if those who own the place wanted to nuke those ads they could/would. I won't lose any sleep over them being there. But nor will I be buying them on here.

 

To me it's pretty simple. The site allows them to be posted as available for purchase. The seller can ask whatever they feel they are worth - but in reality those tickets aren't worth what the seller is asking but instead only what someone is willing to pay for them. If someone is willing to pay a premium on someone else's website with their money, why should anyone care? I must be missing something along the way. Until and unless this is my website (or those complaining), it's not my (or those complaining) choice. As another member said probably best to move on.

 

Nobody was asking if it was a rule or not, we know it currently isn't, we are discussing whether it should be a rule or not.

 

For the record I've never had a ticket and I went there nine years I a row without paying over $100 to get in during a practice round so people who are willing to pay that kind of money is entertaining to me.

 

I really don't have a problem with them being sold on here or not but it is an interesting discussion as far as I'm concerned.

[Medic]

Was literally just discussing availability on site in Augusta this morning. A friend of mine is going and said I could join him and get my tickets up there with little trouble and little actual mark-up on practice days. But, and this is HUGE - he also said there are lots of fakes being sold and there is also a question of whether or not the ticket was already used for entry and could then be used again for re-entry.

 

Which, to me, would beg the question as to some assurance that the tickets purchased on the BST were legit or not. Only way to find out is to try to enter with them.

 

Should they be sold on here? Sure, why not? Not my website and if those who own the place wanted to nuke those ads they could/would. I won't lose any sleep over them being there. But nor will I be buying them on here.

 

To me it's pretty simple. The site allows them to be posted as available for purchase. The seller can ask whatever they feel they are worth - but in reality those tickets aren't worth what the seller is asking but instead only what someone is willing to pay for them. If someone is willing to pay a premium on someone else's website with their money, why should anyone care? I must be missing something along the way. Until and unless this is my website (or those complaining), it's not my (or those complaining) choice. As another member said probably best to move on.

 

Nobody was asking if it was a rule or not, we know it currently isn't, we are discussing whether it should be a rule or not.

 

For the record I've never had a ticket and I went there nine years I a row without paying over $100 to get in during a practice round so people who are willing to pay that kind of money is entertaining to me.

 

I really don't have a problem with them being sold on here or not but it is an interesting discussion as far as I'm concerned.

 

I am so glad that one of the awesome features of this website/forum is the ability to block other members who take disagreeing with others to an extreme.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

Was literally just discussing availability on site in Augusta this morning. A friend of mine is going and said I could join him and get my tickets up there with little trouble and little actual mark-up on practice days. But, and this is HUGE - he also said there are lots of fakes being sold and there is also a question of whether or not the ticket was already used for entry and could then be used again for re-entry.

 

Which, to me, would beg the question as to some assurance that the tickets purchased on the BST were legit or not. Only way to find out is to try to enter with them.

 

Should they be sold on here? Sure, why not? Not my website and if those who own the place wanted to nuke those ads they could/would. I won't lose any sleep over them being there. But nor will I be buying them on here.

 

To me it's pretty simple. The site allows them to be posted as available for purchase. The seller can ask whatever they feel they are worth - but in reality those tickets aren't worth what the seller is asking but instead only what someone is willing to pay for them. If someone is willing to pay a premium on someone else's website with their money, why should anyone care? I must be missing something along the way. Until and unless this is my website (or those complaining), it's not my (or those complaining) choice. As another member said probably best to move on.

 

Nobody was asking if it was a rule or not, we know it currently isn't, we are discussing whether it should be a rule or not.

 

For the record I've never had a ticket and I went there nine years I a row without paying over $100 to get in during a practice round so people who are willing to pay that kind of money is entertaining to me.

 

I really don't have a problem with them being sold on here or not but it is an interesting discussion as far as I'm concerned.

 

I am so glad that one of the awesome features of this website/forum is the ability to block other members who take disagreeing with others to an extreme.

 

I'm really sorry that trying to have a discussion in which neither of us has any skin in the game over is taking something to an extreme. I couldn't care less about whether or not people are allowed to sell Masters' tickets on here but I do think, like the OP, it is an interesting discussion.

 

Again I'm sorry that you feel I'm taking something to an extreme because I have a different opinion from yours but since there are good arguments on both sides I think this is a good discussion. I don't see it as clean cut as you do and for that I apologize.

[Medic]

Was literally just discussing availability on site in Augusta this morning. A friend of mine is going and said I could join him and get my tickets up there with little trouble and little actual mark-up on practice days. But, and this is HUGE - he also said there are lots of fakes being sold and there is also a question of whether or not the ticket was already used for entry and could then be used again for re-entry.

 

Which, to me, would beg the question as to some assurance that the tickets purchased on the BST were legit or not. Only way to find out is to try to enter with them.

 

Should they be sold on here? Sure, why not? Not my website and if those who own the place wanted to nuke those ads they could/would. I won't lose any sleep over them being there. But nor will I be buying them on here.

 

To me it's pretty simple. The site allows them to be posted as available for purchase. The seller can ask whatever they feel they are worth - but in reality those tickets aren't worth what the seller is asking but instead only what someone is willing to pay for them. If someone is willing to pay a premium on someone else's website with their money, why should anyone care? I must be missing something along the way. Until and unless this is my website (or those complaining), it's not my (or those complaining) choice. As another member said probably best to move on.

 

Nobody was asking if it was a rule or not, we know it currently isn't, we are discussing whether it should be a rule or not.

 

For the record I've never had a ticket and I went there nine years I a row without paying over $100 to get in during a practice round so people who are willing to pay that kind of money is entertaining to me.

 

I really don't have a problem with them being sold on here or not but it is an interesting discussion as far as I'm concerned.

 

I am so glad that one of the awesome features of this website/forum is the ability to block other members who take disagreeing with others to an extreme.

 

I'm really sorry that trying to have a discussion in which neither of us has any skin in the game over is taking something to an extreme. I couldn't care less about whether or not people are allowed to sell Masters' tickets on here or not but I do think, like the OP, it is an interesting discussion.

 

Again I'm sorry that you feel I'm taking something to an extreme because I have a different opinion from yours but since there are good arguments on both sides I think this is a good discussion. I don't see it as clean cut as you do and for that I apologize.

 

Perceptions I guess.

 

Dead on it's a good discussion. I do feel that we both have a little skin in the game - because we both obviously love this place. And don't want to see it go down the tubes.

 

I agree that it would seem that the Mods here are overwhelmed sometimes. I honestly feel for them. Having met two of them I can attest to how passionate they are about keeping this place special.

 

Were we live and in-person right now I'd offer you a cold one and a handshake. My apologies also if I fueled the flames a little. You realize that Kymar is going to now come here and make fun of the two of us. Have to take the good with the bad here I guess.

[Justmuckit]

Good arguments on both sides?

 

It's literally the OP (who has gone radio silent) and you on one side, and everyone else on the other.

[Medic]

Good arguments on both sides?

 

It's literally the OP (who has gone radio silent) and you on one side, and everyone else on the other.

 

I used to call that "hit and run"; going into a board, posting something controversial, and then bolting.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

Good arguments on both sides?

 

It's literally the OP (who has gone radio silent) and you on one side, and everyone else on the other.

 

Make a good argument of why you can't sell a new/uncut Accra driver shaft.

[Justmuckit]

Good arguments on both sides?

 

It's literally the OP (who has gone radio silent) and you on one side, and everyone else on the other.

 

I used to call that "hit and run"; going into a board, posting something controversial, and then bolting.

 

That's exactly what it is, which is why I asked earlier what the OP was trying to accomplish.

 

*crickets*

[Justmuckit]

Good arguments on both sides?

 

It's literally the OP (who has gone radio silent) and you on one side, and everyone else on the other.

 

Make a good argument of why you can't sell a new/uncut Accra driver shaft.

 

Because Richard says so?

 

His board, his rules.

 

It's really that simple.

[sixtysevensixtyseven]

Good arguments on both sides?

 

It's literally the OP (who has gone radio silent) and you on one side, and everyone else on the other.

 

Make a good argument of why you can't sell a new/uncut Accra driver shaft.

 

Because Richard effing says so?

 

His board, his rules.

 

It's really that simple.

 

Not really. It's because some of his sponsors say so so the rule is to abide by the shaft manufactures, all of which say no selling of new/uninstalled shafts much like Augusta prohibits reselling tickets.

 

I really thought this was a topic in which people would see both sides but I've been proven wrong so I guess my attitude has been swayed towards who cares and there's no reason to take a beating over something I really don't care about.