Posting shamble score

[b.helts]

Having your partner middle of the fairway 250 out so you can free wheel your drive isn't the same as knowing your drive counts for better or worse.

 

A tight rope walker with a safety net vs no net are two different things.

What if he's a better player than his partner and his partner goes first on every hole? On a couple his partner is in the fairway so he takes a rip with driver over a corner or a creek or something. Now, he happens to pull it off so they use his very aggressive, very good drive. He likely wouldn't have tried that had he been playing medal play.

 

I understand the premise you guys are getting at, but the game is not played in a vacuum. During any round of golf each player will experience ebbs and flows of advantage gained or lost with respect to the performance of partners, opponents, or fellow-competitors.

 

Continuing on this train of logic, how can you also allow casual rounds to count towards index calculation? We know there's no way to moderate - or prove - intent during a casual round so that a player maintains the same level of risk management as he would during a competitive round. Theoretically you could have a player "legally" gaming the system by adopting a riskier attitude for casual rounds and gearing down for tournaments so that they effectively gain a handful of shots simply by choosing to play safer and keep it in between the lines that day.

 

What about a fourball match where your partner goes first, kills a drive and also gets a stroke? While their score is not guaranteed to be the team score at that point, it undoubtedly reduces the pressure on your performance for the hole.

 

Fair point. However, if in casual rounds the player plays more aggressively than he might otherwise, you'd expect some of the scores to be lower because he'd pick up strokes from time to time.

 

But I get your point and would have no problem if the handicap system became a T score only system in the states like congu is.

[Augster]

Oh, I don't plan to post it. Not yet anyway. As smeech said, anytime you have partners, or competition in general, your aggressiveness/cowardliness is going to change as the match goes on. Or it should.

 

The only time it shouldn't ebb and flow is when you are out for a casual round with nothing on the line.

 

The answer for not posting may be as easy as "Shamble isn't a sanctioned form of play. Only match, stroke, and stableford."

 

It's odd to me a player could use his drive for all 18 holes, basically shoot a career best, and not post it. Then that player could go out another day with his daughter, mess around on 5 holes and lacklusterly play 13 of the holes by the ROG and post the round.

 

In my case, I played 8/9 holes on the front exactly by the rules. True, I did have a partner I could have used his drive each hole "in my back pocket" but as it turned out we only used his once. For posting scores, not every hole needs to be played by the ROG. In a casual round, you can hit multiple balls etc. and just take par+ for that hole. As long as you only do that on 5 holes, the round is still postable.

 

 

[smeech8000]

But I get your point and would have no problem if the handicap system became a T score only system in the states like congu is.

 

Nor would I. :fan_1:

[Shilgy]

Oh, I don't plan to post it. Not yet anyway. As smeech said, anytime you have partners, or competition in general, your aggressiveness/cowardliness is going to change as the match goes on. Or it should.

 

The only time it shouldn't ebb and flow is when you are out for a casual round with nothing on the line.

 

The answer for not posting may be as easy as "Shamble isn't a sanctioned form of play. Only match, stroke, and stableford."

 

It's odd to me a player could use his drive for all 18 holes, basically shoot a career best, and not post it. Then that player could go out another day with his daughter, mess around on 5 holes and lacklusterly play 13 of the holes by the ROG and post the round.

 

In my case, I played 8/9 holes on the front exactly by the rules. True, I did have a partner I could have used his drive each hole "in my back pocket" but as it turned out we only used his once. For posting scores, not every hole needs to be played by the ROG. In a casual round, you can hit multiple balls etc. and just take par+ for that hole. As long as you only do that on 5 holes, the round is still postable.

Should your lackluster round with daughter be posted? Rules expect you are trying your best. If you're not is it just practice?