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After 5-10 years of trying every high end players club on the market; PXG (0311,0311T), Miura CB 501, Titliest AP2 (710,712,716), Callaway ( X forged, X prototype, Apex Pro, Epic, Epic Pro), Ping (S57, S55, Anser 1&2), and even Mizuno (Several MP style and JPX 900 Tour), I have finally landed at the very time consuming, stroke losing, and expensive conclusion that my Nike VR Pro blades, Scott Blades, and Miura Baby blades are the best irons ever produced, with the least amount of hype and technological "advances" (read hype).

 

Just curious if anyone else has had this epiphany or if i can save some club ho's early in their career. If you want the actual best feeling club out there, NOTHING matches a forged muscle back blade. (sorry 0311's not even you).

 

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Can confirm-the best performing irons are forged MBs. I’d stretch it to say that forged CBs are very similar and it’s up to preference.

 

My advice to people is to buy blades and if you can’t hit them well, start practicing. They will make you a better player and will let you know when you’re making mistakes.

 

Aim small, miss small. Time to take the training wheels off.

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Someone better tell all those PGA and LPGA tour players that it's time to "take the training wheels off."

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Can confirm-the best performing irons are forged MBs. I’d stretch it to say that forged CBs are very similar and it’s up to preference.

 

My advice to people is to buy blades and if you can’t hit them well, start practicing. They will make you a better player and will let you know when you’re making mistakes.

 

Aim small, miss small. Time to take the training wheels off.

 

Dumbest advice ever given on this site

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Can confirm-the best performing irons are forged MBs. I’d stretch it to say that forged CBs are very similar and it’s up to preference.

 

My advice to people is to buy blades and if you can’t hit them well, start practicing. They will make you a better player and will let you know when you’re making mistakes.

 

Aim small, miss small. Time to take the training wheels off.

 

Dumbest advice ever given on this site

 

You need to spend a little more time around here.

 

There is plenty of competition.

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After 5-10 years of trying every high end players club on the market; PXG (0311,0311T), Miura CB 501, Titliest AP2 (710,712,716), Callaway ( X forged, X prototype, Apex Pro, Epic, Epic Pro), Ping (S57, S55, Anser 1&2), and even Mizuno (Several MP style and JPX 900 Tour), I have finally landed at the very time consuming, stroke losing, and expensive conclusion that my Nike VR Pro blades, Scott Blades, and Miura Baby blades are the best irons ever produced, with the least amount of hype and technological "advances" (read hype).

 

Just curious if anyone else has had this epiphany or if i can save some club ho's early in their career. If you want the actual best feeling club out there, NOTHING matches a forged muscle back blade. (sorry 0311's not even you).

 

Seems to me you missed one in your Players Cavity search ...

 

The CB-57!!

 

I play Baby Blades ... AND .... I play CB-57s.

 

OUTSTANDING sticks!!

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I had baby blades and sold them for some dumb reason or another. After experimenting with other irons, I went back to baby blades and even picked up a second set of heads. I won’t be looking for irons again.

 

 

 

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Full Circle is a great heading.

 

Locally, Full Circle is a recycling company. so the old becomes the New.

My pic shows the MP33 and the MP T5 wedge.

 

23 years ago i had the chance to buy Forged Mizuno irons from the dealer.

All my mates said NO Don't.

So i got the Pings, nice clubs, Best Sales/Service in the world!!

 

18 years later i got MP 52. Nice.

Bought some MP 68 also. u ha, sold em.

Bought some MP 30 ok but sold em.

Last xmas bought MP 58 the easy to hit bla bla forged forgiveness.

Even spine aligned re built regripped we just didn't get along

I effectively went backwards from my just sold J33 Cb's.

Bought some MP33 with no 9 iron. Loving them actually,

but not playing much right now.

Looking to mid 2018 when my Golf Time will improve quite a bit !!!!

I am looking at MP33 and MP 14 for the bag

 

If you do have a spare 9 iron MP33,(mine are the Heavy Set), let me know!!

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Full Circle is a great heading.

 

Locally, Full Circle is a recycling company. so the old becomes the New.

My pic shows the MP33 and the MP T5 wedge.

 

23 years ago i had the chance to buy Forged Mizuno irons from the dealer.

All my mates said NO Don't.

So i got the Pings, nice clubs, Best Sales/Service in the world!!

 

18 years later i got MP 52. Nice.

Bought some MP 68 also. u ha, sold em.

Bought some MP 30 ok but sold em.

Last xmas bought MP 58 the easy to hit bla bla forged forgiveness.

Even spine aligned re built regripped we just didn't get along

I effectively went backwards from my just sold J33 Cb's.

Bought some MP33 with no 9 iron. Loving them actually,

but not playing much right now.

Looking to mid 2018 when my Golf Time will improve quite a bit !!!!

I am looking at MP33 and MP 14 for the bag

 

If you do have a spare 9 iron MP33,(mine are the Heavy Set), let me know!!

Nice set up. Use the same wedges and irons. There will be no disappointment once they are put in service.

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Full Circle is a great heading.

 

Locally, Full Circle is a recycling company. so the old becomes the New.

My pic shows the MP33 and the MP T5 wedge.

 

23 years ago i had the chance to buy Forged Mizuno irons from the dealer.

All my mates said NO Don't.

So i got the Pings, nice clubs, Best Sales/Service in the world!!

 

18 years later i got MP 52. Nice.

Bought some MP 68 also. u ha, sold em.

Bought some MP 30 ok but sold em.

Last xmas bought MP 58 the easy to hit bla bla forged forgiveness.

Even spine aligned re built regripped we just didn't get along

I effectively went backwards from my just sold J33 Cb's.

Bought some MP33 with no 9 iron. Loving them actually,

but not playing much right now.

Looking to mid 2018 when my Golf Time will improve quite a bit !!!!

I am looking at MP33 and MP 14 for the bag

 

If you do have a spare 9 iron MP33,(mine are the Heavy Set), let me know!!

 

That's pretty cool! Thanks for sharing!

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I recommend that you spend more than two months as a member before turning into a troll.

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Full Circle is a great heading.

 

Locally, Full Circle is a recycling company. so the old becomes the New.

My pic shows the MP33 and the MP T5 wedge.

 

23 years ago i had the chance to buy Forged Mizuno irons from the dealer.

All my mates said NO Don't.

So i got the Pings, nice clubs, Best Sales/Service in the world!!

 

18 years later i got MP 52. Nice.

Bought some MP 68 also. u ha, sold em.

Bought some MP 30 ok but sold em.

Last xmas bought MP 58 the easy to hit bla bla forged forgiveness.

Even spine aligned re built regripped we just didn't get along

I effectively went backwards from my just sold J33 Cb's.

Bought some MP33 with no 9 iron. Loving them actually,

but not playing much right now.

Looking to mid 2018 when my Golf Time will improve quite a bit !!!!

I am looking at MP33 and MP 14 for the bag

 

If you do have a spare 9 iron MP33,(mine are the Heavy Set), let me know!!

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I have to admit - it had been awhile since we had a nice "blades versus CB" thread here. Subject hardly ever comes up and needs to be discussed more.

 

Sigh......

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Done the full circle thing many times. My ego wants to like a lot if irons that I prove and reprove I cannot hit consistently well. I always come crawling back to my PING G10 or Eye 2 irons.

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Yikes, this thread became hostile in a hurry.

 

Sorry if my unpopular opinion offended any of you, my intention was not to trigger anyone and I am most certainly not a troll.

 

Unpopular shouldn't lead to unpopularity. But you know how the population can be.

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Yikes, this thread became hostile in a hurry.

 

Sorry if my unpopular opinion offended any of you, my intention was not to trigger anyone and I am most certainly not a troll.

 

 

dont worry about it... when someone uses the LPGA as a reason to use training wheels it cannot possibly remain a serious conversation... going with that logic would have us all carrying 9 headcovers and a huge putter... and to top it off gives us a passive brag related to his membership length... good grief charlie brown..

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hodges_atx: My response about the troll was to DFS PFD with his attempt at a humorous link.

 

bladehunter: Passive brag about membership length? Wow, we are really reaching to try to come up with an insult.

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I have to admit - it had been awhile since we had a nice "blades versus CB" thread here. Subject hardly ever comes up and needs to be discussed more.

 

Sigh......

 

... Yup, it really boils down to this.

 

1. Everywhere else in the world people appreciate some forgiveness, even for better players including the PGA Tour, it might mean just a little in their mid to long irons. For most Ams it is players irons to full scale SGI irons. Everyone should play the most forgiving irons they can effectively play. No other sport in the world recommends using equipment that makes the game more difficult. "I use a basketball that weights twice as much as a normal ball because it makes me focus on my form and I don't just throw up wild 3 pointers"... "I still use an older small headed wood tennis racket because it forces me to concentrate and not just make wild swings and my shooting percentage improved" ... "I found a baseball bat with a much smaller barrel helps me focus and not just swing for the fences and my average has increased"... "When I play golf and use a forgiving iron I make wild swings but a smaller headed MB helps me concentrate and I hit much better shots and score better".

 

2. At WRX it means playing irons that look good (at address and in the bag) and feel good in the eye of the beholder. No amount of posting has ever changed one members view and I have not read a single 10-20 index MB player say "I bought into the great iron striker but poor short game mantra but finally played some more forgiving players irons (or gawd forbid SG irons) and my shots were better as well as my scores". While many play 460cc drivers, a modern ball that spins and curves much less, forgiving fairway woods and hybrids or larger and more forgiving DI's, they absolutely insist MB's are better for their game. Trying to change anyone's opinion on this is the very definition of insanity.

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Play what you want. Blades aren’t hard to hit. I have the new Apex MB. 4-AW. Who cares. Play golf not hit the ball. GI spin way less and don’t allow for as good shot making.

 

If the clubs remotely fit you, your scores are not going change more than a couple strokes if you can put the club head remotely close to center. If you can’t we’ll play the biggest fattest iron you can. But if you have decent club head speed and somewhat coordinated, go for it. Your more likely to have one errant chip or drive effect your score than the decision to play blades lol

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Can confirm-the best performing irons are forged MBs. I’d stretch it to say that forged CBs are very similar and it’s up to preference.

 

My advice to people is to buy blades and if you can’t hit them well, start practicing. They will make you a better player and will let you know when you’re making mistakes.

 

Aim small, miss small. Time to take the training wheels off.

 

I can tell where I mishit the ball on the face even on the clunkiest of blades or cb, same goes for a high moi driver, on down the line. No amount of practice or feedback on mishits is going to make someone a natural at ball striking. Reality is most golfers are gonna need some help.

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After 5-10 years of trying every high end players club on the market; PXG (0311,0311T), Miura CB 501, Titliest AP2 (710,712,716), Callaway ( X forged, X prototype, Apex Pro, Epic, Epic Pro), Ping (S57, S55, Anser 1&2), and even Mizuno (Several MP style and JPX 900 Tour), I have finally landed at the very time consuming, stroke losing, and expensive conclusion that my Nike VR Pro blades, Scott Blades, and Miura Baby blades are the best irons ever produced, with the least amount of hype and technological "advances" (read hype).

 

Just curious if anyone else has had this epiphany or if i can save some club ho's early in their career. If you want the actual best feeling club out there, NOTHING matches a forged muscle back blade. (sorry 0311's not even you).

 

I bet you had a great time trying all of those clubs!

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I have to admit - it had been awhile since we had a nice "blades versus CB" thread here. Subject hardly ever comes up and needs to be discussed more.

 

Sigh......

 

... Yup, it really boils down to this.

 

1. Everywhere else in the world people appreciate some forgiveness, even for better players including the PGA Tour, it might mean just a little in their mid to long irons. For most Ams it is players irons to full scale SGI irons. Everyone should play the most forgiving irons they can effectively play. No other sport in the world recommends using equipment that makes the game more difficult. "I use a basketball that weights twice as much as a normal ball because it makes me focus on my form and I don't just throw up wild 3 pointers"... "I still use an older small headed wood tennis racket because it forces me to concentrate and not just make wild swings and my shooting percentage improved" ... "I found a baseball bat with a much smaller barrel helps me focus and not just swing for the fences and my average has increased"... "When I play golf and use a forgiving iron I make wild swings but a smaller headed MB helps me concentrate and I hit much better shots and score better".

 

2. At WRX it means playing irons that look good (at address and in the bag) and feel good in the eye of the beholder. No amount of posting has ever changed one members view and I have not read a single 10-20 index MB player say "I bought into the great iron striker but poor short game mantra but finally played some more forgiving players irons (or gawd forbid SG irons) and my shots were better as well as my scores". While many play 460cc drivers, a modern ball that spins and curves much less, forgiving fairway woods and hybrids or larger and more forgiving DI's, they absolutely insist MB's are better for their game. Trying to change anyone's opinion on this is the very definition of insanity.

 

Following that logic, there’s no way you should be playing a Bobby Grace 6330, one of the ‘bladiest’ (and mist gorgeous) putters still on the market. You need to get that TM Spider Tour putter in the bag right away ;-). My 8813 costs me a least three shots a round so I have put a more forgiving Anser-style putter in my bag...and I am regarded as a very decent putter with a 30 putt/round average with the Cleveland Classic 1.

 

Seriously, no one on tour plays a blade putter anymore...you really should get that BG 6330 on BST now and put a more forgiving putter in the bag and get your logic fully lined up in the process.

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I always thought it was most important to play what you enjoy. It's a game, have fun with it. There is no rule that one has to have a specific HI to play an MB.

 

I don't know why some folks get so bent out of shape with someone playing an MB over a CB...it's not their money, it's not their game, and what anyone else plays does not impact your game one iota.

 

Besides, I do think forgiveness is overrated. :-)

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I have to admit - it had been awhile since we had a nice "blades versus CB" thread here. Subject hardly ever comes up and needs to be discussed more.

 

Sigh......

 

... Yup, it really boils down to this.

 

1. Everywhere else in the world people appreciate some forgiveness, even for better players including the PGA Tour, it might mean just a little in their mid to long irons. For most Ams it is players irons to full scale SGI irons. Everyone should play the most forgiving irons they can effectively play. No other sport in the world recommends using equipment that makes the game more difficult. "I use a basketball that weights twice as much as a normal ball because it makes me focus on my form and I don't just throw up wild 3 pointers"... "I still use an older small headed wood tennis racket because it forces me to concentrate and not just make wild swings and my shooting percentage improved" ... "I found a baseball bat with a much smaller barrel helps me focus and not just swing for the fences and my average has increased"... "When I play golf and use a forgiving iron I make wild swings but a smaller headed MB helps me concentrate and I hit much better shots and score better".

 

2. At WRX it means playing irons that look good (at address and in the bag) and feel good in the eye of the beholder. No amount of posting has ever changed one members view and I have not read a single 10-20 index MB player say "I bought into the great iron striker but poor short game mantra but finally played some more forgiving players irons (or gawd forbid SG irons) and my shots were better as well as my scores". While many play 460cc drivers, a modern ball that spins and curves much less, forgiving fairway woods and hybrids or larger and more forgiving DI's, they absolutely insist MB's are better for their game. Trying to change anyone's opinion on this is the very definition of insanity.

 

Amen. I'm always astonished as to how many posters here make club selections AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO OTHERS based on what PGA Tour players are using. Are there really that many scratch/low handicappers here? Really?

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      Todd Clements - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Shaun Norris - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Marco Penge - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Nicolai Von Dellingshausen - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Hong Taek Kim - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Julien Guerrier - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Richie Ramsey - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima's TaylorMade P-8CB irons - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Francesco Laporta - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Aaron Cockerill - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Sebastian Soderberg - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Connor Syme - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jeff Winther - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Woo Young Cho - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Bernd Wiesberger - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Andy Sullivan - WITB 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jacques Kruyswijk - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Pablo Larrazabal - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Thriston Lawrence - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Darius Van Driel - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Grant Forrest - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jordan Gumberg - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Nacho Elvira - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Romain Langasque - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Dan Bradbury - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Yannik Paul - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Ashun Wu - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Alex Del Rey - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made gamer - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made putter (back-up??) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      New TaylorMade P-UDI (Stinger Squadron cover) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Rory's custom Joe Powell (Career Slam) persimmon driver & cover - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima's TaylorMade P-8CB irons - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Tommy Fleetwood's son Mo's TM putter - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2025 John Deere Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #1
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #2
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Carson Young - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Zac Blair - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Anders Albertson - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Jay Giannetto - Iowa PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      John Pak - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Brendan Valdes - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cristobal del Solar - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Dylan Frittelli - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Justin Lowers new Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Bettinardi new Core Carbon putters - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter covers - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
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