thepinkbomber Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 We have an in to out path and usually hit a draw. Testing the push fade.We aim left and open the face a little. Still swing in to out. It does go shorter as expected.Spin is definitely to the right as you would expect opening the face a little.AoA is 5 degrees no change.LA and Backswing increase due to opening the face. Curious of adjustments to hit the push fade further. Carry and roll.Some I can think of is choose a lower lofted face so when we open it doesn’t go higher and the back spin is less. Maybe.Perhaps if this becomes a stock shot go with a stiffer than normal shaft? Keep it lower and less back spin maybe. Also promotes a right shot with less opening.Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsjustagame Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Swing harder Quote Paradym AI Smoke Graphite Design MAD AI Smoke 3HL and 7 Wood AI Smoke HL Hybrids 4, 5, 6 Callaway Apex Ai 200 Recoil Dart 80 Sub 70 JB Forged Wedges 54/58 Odyssey Square 2 Jailbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfTurkey Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 How did Dustin Johnson do it? He went from a draw to a fade without losing distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getitdaily Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What's your spin rate, ball speed, and clubhead speed m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago Golf Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 My longest drives have been push fade. Swing Speed, and Center contact are great ways to hit further Quote Pro Caddie & I teach golf Driver: Srixon Zx5 10.5*; HZDRUS Handcrafted 63 6.0 Long Game: PXG 13*; HZDRUS Handcrafted 83 6.5 Hybrid: Adams IDEA Super 9031; Diamana 83x Irons: Cobra KING Forged Tec ('15) 4-PW; Recoil 125 stiff (19*,22*, 26*, 30*, 34*, 39*, 44*) Wedges: Titleist SM9 50*, 54*; True Temper DG S300 (36 inches) (bent 48*, 52*) L-Wedge: Titleist SM6 58* or Titleist WW 58 Low Bounce K: True Temper DG s300 (36 inches) Putter: LAB OZ.1; 0* shaft lean, Gears Shaft, LAB Cord Grip; 35 inches Ball: ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petunia Sprinkle Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Open the face more and try to aggressively slam it shut at the last possible moment. If it goes left, you did it too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagpilotohio Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Open the face more and try to aggressively slam it shut at the last possible moment. If it goes left, you did it too soon. Interesting. I play a slight fade as a standard shot and I very deliberately think about having my hands and club face very passive at impact. Of course I play a pull fade, setting up at the target and swinging the club a hair left of the target with quiet hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ri_Redneck Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 We have an in to out path and usually hit a draw. Testing the push fade.We aim left and open the face a little. Still swing in to out. It does go shorter as expected.Spin is definitely to the right as you would expect opening the face a little.AoA is 5 degrees no change.LA and Backswing increase due to opening the face. Curious of adjustments to hit the push fade further. Carry and roll.Some I can think of is choose a lower lofted face so when we open it doesn’t go higher and the back spin is less. Maybe.Perhaps if this becomes a stock shot go with a stiffer than normal shaft? Keep it lower and less back spin maybe. Also promotes a right shot with less opening.Thoughts? First off, if with the fade, you have higher launch angle, more spin and less carry..... then all of that is caused by the increased effective loft you are applying to the ball with your fade setup. Decreasing the loft would fix this situation, but if you then want to play a draw, your back to non-ideal launch conditions. What I tend to do when I want to play a fade and not have it go too high or spin too much is move the ball slightly rearward in my stance (no more than an inch). This should decrease your effective loft a bit possibly giving you what you're looking for. You'll have to experiment with the setup a bit to get your aim-point correct for the new ball position though. BT Quote Dr#1 Cobra Speedzone 10.5 – HZRDUS Yellow HC 65 TX @ 46” Dr#2 Mizuno STZ 220 9.5 (10.5) - HZRDUS Smoke IM10 65 Low TX @ 46" Dr#3 Cobra Aerojet 10.5 - HZRDUS Blue Smoke RDX 65 TX (Ion Patriot) @ 46" Mizuno ST190 15 - HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 70 TS @ 43" Mizuno STZ 220 18- HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 70 TS @ 42" Cobra Limit3d 4-PW - Recoil Proto 125 F4 - GM Roo Midsize Cobra MIM Wedges 52, 56 & 60 – stock KBS Hi-Rev @ 35.5” Odyssey V-Line Stroke Lab 33.5" Grips - Grip Master Classic Wrap Midsize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepinkbomber Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 We have an in to out path and usually hit a draw. Testing the push fade.We aim left and open the face a little. Still swing in to out. It does go shorter as expected.Spin is definitely to the right as you would expect opening the face a little.AoA is 5 degrees no change.LA and Backswing increase due to opening the face. Curious of adjustments to hit the push fade further. Carry and roll.Some I can think of is choose a lower lofted face so when we open it doesn’t go higher and the back spin is less. Maybe.Perhaps if this becomes a stock shot go with a stiffer than normal shaft? Keep it lower and less back spin maybe. Also promotes a right shot with less opening.Thoughts? First off, if with the fade, you have higher launch angle, more spin and less carry..... then all of that is caused by the increased effective loft you are applying to the ball with your fade setup. Decreasing the loft would fix this situation, but if you then want to play a draw, your back to non-ideal launch conditions. What I tend to do when I want to play a fade and not have it go too high or spin too much is move the ball slightly rearward in my stance (no more than an inch). This should decrease your effective loft a bit possibly giving you what you're looking for. You'll have to experiment with the setup a bit to get your aim-point correct for the new ball position though. BTYes the slight open face (to cause the right spin) causes higher LA and higher spin therefore less carry and roll. I will experiment with moving the ball back. It will start further right when I do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanillafunk616 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 We have an in to out path and usually hit a draw. Testing the push fade.We aim left and open the face a little. Still swing in to out. It does go shorter as expected.Spin is definitely to the right as you would expect opening the face a little.AoA is 5 degrees no change.LA and Backswing increase due to opening the face. Curious of adjustments to hit the push fade further. Carry and roll.Some I can think of is choose a lower lofted face so when we open it doesn’t go higher and the back spin is less. Maybe.Perhaps if this becomes a stock shot go with a stiffer than normal shaft? Keep it lower and less back spin maybe. Also promotes a right shot with less opening.Thoughts? The ball you play will probably make the largest difference. Having a low spin driver head. Setting the driver on a more upright lie angle. Playing the lowest loft you can get away with. Setting the face angle more closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getitdaily Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 We have an in to out path and usually hit a draw. Testing the push fade.We aim left and open the face a little. Still swing in to out. It does go shorter as expected.Spin is definitely to the right as you would expect opening the face a little.AoA is 5 degrees no change.LA and Backswing increase due to opening the face. Curious of adjustments to hit the push fade further. Carry and roll.Some I can think of is choose a lower lofted face so when we open it doesn’t go higher and the back spin is less. Maybe.Perhaps if this becomes a stock shot go with a stiffer than normal shaft? Keep it lower and less back spin maybe. Also promotes a right shot with less opening.Thoughts? First off, if with the fade, you have higher launch angle, more spin and less carry..... then all of that is caused by the increased effective loft you are applying to the ball with your fade setup. Decreasing the loft would fix this situation, but if you then want to play a draw, your back to non-ideal launch conditions. What I tend to do when I want to play a fade and not have it go too high or spin too much is move the ball slightly rearward in my stance (no more than an inch). This should decrease your effective loft a bit possibly giving you what you're looking for. You'll have to experiment with the setup a bit to get your aim-point correct for the new ball position though. BTYes the slight open face (to cause the right spin) causes higher LA and higher spin therefore less carry and roll. I will experiment with moving the ball back. It will start further right when I do that. If you move the ball back then you're probably going to worsen the spin problem. The face will be open more unless you manipulate the face in some way. I would try playing the ball a bit more forward. See if that closes the face a bit more naturally. May end up with more of a straight fade than a push fade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrispgm Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 a properly hit fade is not going to go much shorter than a normal shot...however, it will go shorter if you mishit the ball, or are hitting a rather significant fade. I typically play for a slight push fade with my driver. All I do is play the ball forward about an inch or 2. With the ball forward with my driver, I tend to hold off the face slightly leading to the push and since my path is slightly left, it cuts....Probably a 10 yard push and a 5 yard cut. Everyone is a little different though. Some people will still close the face and hit a pull cut from there. Quote Driver: PXG Black Ops TenseiAV Raw White 65x FWY: Sim 2 Ti w/ TenseiAV Raw Blue 75x Hybrid: Srixon MKII 18* MMT 105x Irons: Srixon Zx7 MKII Project X 6.5 54*: Titleist SM6 S grind black finish 58*: New Level Golf SPN Forged M Grind Putter: Toulon San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepinkbomber Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 a properly hit fade is not going to go much shorter than a normal shot...however, it will go shorter if you mishit the ball, or are hitting a rather significant fade. I typically play for a slight push fade with my driver. All I do is play the ball forward about an inch or 2. With the ball forward with my driver, I tend to hold off the face slightly leading to the push and since my path is slightly left, it cuts....Probably a 10 yard push and a 5 yard cut. Everyone is a little different though. Some people will still close the face and hit a pull cut from there.If your path is left (out to in) how do you play a push? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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