Players with the best Hand / Eye coordination

[king_biscuit]

Nobody had better had eye coordination than Chi Chi.

[naval2006]

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

The ball doesn't move.

 

There are blind people who, with assistance lining up, strike the ball very well. What does that tell you?

 

I believe George Knudson once shot -1 with his eyes closed on every shot.

 

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

The ball doesn't move.

 

There are blind people who, with assistance lining up, strike the ball very well. What does that tell you?

 

I believe George Knudson once shot -1 with his eyes closed on every shot.

 

 

But I guess the guy with great hand eye cordination plays waaaaaay better than you and I. I don’t know if you’re a jerk but you must be an average hacker like most of us.

[bladehunter]

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

The ball doesn't move.

 

There are blind people who, with assistance lining up, strike the ball very well. What does that tell you?

 

I believe George Knudson once shot -1 with his eyes closed on every shot.

 

 

lol... yea.... you obviously have no idea how Phil or Seve hit some of the shots they hit.. your theory only holds water on perfectly flat ground with zero wind and to a level target.... past that no dice..

 

A person is never hitting a moving target either...the brain makes a calculation that determines where the target will be..not where it is.. and the strike is set to that path... if the target moves youll miss. same as a golf swing , the calculation is just easier for the brain.. BUT... add in slope, or desired flight ( path and traj) and to great players eye/hand is just as in use as any tennis or baseball player.

 

Please enlighten us on how hand eye coordination is any more important for Phil and Seve than anyone else.

 

People are obviously throwing out the names of guys with creative shotmaking ability. How exactly does that correlate to superior hand eye coordination?

 

As far as uneven lies, once you've adjusted your body it is no different than a flat lie. Unless you're arguing that the player may lose his balance.

 

And what the heck does the wind have to do with hand eye coordination?

 

You could argue that hand eye coordination and the abiliy to visualize and adjust pre-shot is important.

 

But during the actual strike, there is no comparison to doing something like hitting a curveball.

 

Again, the ball doesn't move. You can close your eyes and hit a good shot. That puts your theory to bed that hand EYE coordination is crucial.

 

Ask Seve, Phil, or Bubba how they execute their amazing shots. They will mention the ability to visualize, adjust or use their hands effectively. They won't mention hand eye coordination.

 

If you don’t get it. You ain’t got it.

[straightshot7]

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

The ball doesn't move.

 

There are blind people who, with assistance lining up, strike the ball very well. What does that tell you?

 

I believe George Knudson once shot -1 with his eyes closed on every shot.

 

 

lol... yea.... you obviously have no idea how Phil or Seve hit some of the shots they hit.. your theory only holds water on perfectly flat ground with zero wind and to a level target.... past that no dice..

 

A person is never hitting a moving target either...the brain makes a calculation that determines where the target will be..not where it is.. and the strike is set to that path... if the target moves youll miss. same as a golf swing , the calculation is just easier for the brain.. BUT... add in slope, or desired flight ( path and traj) and to great players eye/hand is just as in use as any tennis or baseball player.

 

Please enlighten us on how hand eye coordination is any more important for Phil and Seve than anyone else.

 

People are obviously throwing out the names of guys with creative shotmaking ability. How exactly does that correlate to superior hand eye coordination?

 

As far as uneven lies, once you've adjusted your body it is no different than a flat lie. Unless you're arguing that the player may lose his balance.

 

And what the heck does the wind have to do with hand eye coordination?

 

You could argue that hand eye coordination and the abiliy to visualize and adjust pre-shot is important.

 

But during the actual strike, there is no comparison to doing something like hitting a curveball.

 

Again, the ball doesn't move. You can close your eyes and hit a good shot. That puts your theory to bed that hand EYE coordination is crucial.

 

Ask Seve, Phil, or Bubba how they execute their amazing shots. They will mention the ability to visualize, adjust or use their hands effectively. They won't mention hand eye coordination.

 

If you don't get it. You ain't got it.

 

You took almost a month to reply and this was the best you could come up with?

 

Maybe it's time to switch to cavity back's.

[straightshot7]

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

The ball doesn't move.

 

There are blind people who, with assistance lining up, strike the ball very well. What does that tell you?

 

I believe George Knudson once shot -1 with his eyes closed on every shot.

 

 

But I guess the guy with great hand eye cordination plays waaaaaay better than you and I. I don't know if you're a jerk but you must be an average hacker like most of us.

 

No, I'm not. But you bring up a good point---maybe you have to be "an average hacker" to believe in the mystical power of hand eye coordination in golf. It's something people say because it sounds good and they don't feel the burden of explaining it. Maybe it makes them feel like it's not their fault they can't play like a Tour player---they just weren't blessed with hand eye coordination.

[bladehunter]

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

The ball doesn't move.

 

There are blind people who, with assistance lining up, strike the ball very well. What does that tell you?

 

I believe George Knudson once shot -1 with his eyes closed on every shot.

 

 

lol... yea.... you obviously have no idea how Phil or Seve hit some of the shots they hit.. your theory only holds water on perfectly flat ground with zero wind and to a level target.... past that no dice..

 

A person is never hitting a moving target either...the brain makes a calculation that determines where the target will be..not where it is.. and the strike is set to that path... if the target moves youll miss. same as a golf swing , the calculation is just easier for the brain.. BUT... add in slope, or desired flight ( path and traj) and to great players eye/hand is just as in use as any tennis or baseball player.

 

Please enlighten us on how hand eye coordination is any more important for Phil and Seve than anyone else.

 

People are obviously throwing out the names of guys with creative shotmaking ability. How exactly does that correlate to superior hand eye coordination?

 

As far as uneven lies, once you've adjusted your body it is no different than a flat lie. Unless you're arguing that the player may lose his balance.

 

And what the heck does the wind have to do with hand eye coordination?

 

You could argue that hand eye coordination and the abiliy to visualize and adjust pre-shot is important.

 

But during the actual strike, there is no comparison to doing something like hitting a curveball.

 

Again, the ball doesn't move. You can close your eyes and hit a good shot. That puts your theory to bed that hand EYE coordination is crucial.

 

Ask Seve, Phil, or Bubba how they execute their amazing shots. They will mention the ability to visualize, adjust or use their hands effectively. They won't mention hand eye coordination.

 

If you don't get it. You ain't got it.

 

You took almost a month to reply and this was the best you could come up with?

 

Maybe it's time to switch to cavity back's.

 

I’m not riding around looking to reply to nonsense .. I just happened back across this one.

 

The fact that the ball is stationary has zero to do with it. You can’t see a shape In your mind. Then execute that shape with “ body position “. Bubbas flip hooks and Phil’s golden flops over people aren’t setup driven. Sure you have to know how to place weight etc. but you also have to have the instinct to put the face where it needs to be at impact. Ie eye hand.

[bladehunter]

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

The ball doesn't move.

 

There are blind people who, with assistance lining up, strike the ball very well. What does that tell you?

 

I believe George Knudson once shot -1 with his eyes closed on every shot.

 

 

But I guess the guy with great hand eye cordination plays waaaaaay better than you and I. I don't know if you're a jerk but you must be an average hacker like most of us.

 

No, I'm not. But you bring up a good point---maybe you have to be "an average hacker" to believe in the mystical power of hand eye coordination in golf. It's something people say because it sounds good and they don't feel the burden of explaining it. Maybe it makes them feel like it's not their fault they can't play like a Tour player---they just weren't blessed with hand eye coordination.

 

Pm me if you’re in upstate sc ever. We can find out who the average hacker is. My treat.

[Christosterone]

Tiger, Phil, Lord Byron(who curb stomped hogan every time they played)

 

[straightshot7]

I'm not riding around looking to reply to nonsense .. I just happened back across this one.

 

The fact that the ball is stationary has zero to do with it. You can't see a shape In your mind. Then execute that shape with " body position ". Bubbas flip hooks and Phil's golden flops over people aren't setup driven. Sure you have to know how to place weight etc. but you also have to have the instinct to put the face where it needs to be at impact. Ie eye hand.

 

"The fact that the ball is stationary has zero to do with it"-- seriously? You don't think whether the object is moving or not relates to hand-eye coordination? Come on.

 

You're talking about a player using his hands well to shape certain shots. That's not the same thing as hand eye coordination.

 

I already said previously that hand-eye coordination is a factor in golf, it's just not a big factor. Compared to say baseball or table tennis. There are studies that have said the same thing.

 

And as for your offer. . . not to get into a pissing contest but likewise if you're ever in Souther Cali. If your handicap is truly "NONE" then I will give you a couple strokes.

[Roadking2003]

John Daly.

[MrJones]

Really? Any reasoning for that?

 

No. You're just a moron.

 

Read this article:

 

https://golfstateofm...ation-and-golf/

 

How does Iron Byron hit perfect shots every time with no eyes genius?

 

hahaha I laughed so hard at this and then even harder when the article says it too!!!

 

 

 

 

As far as your argument that hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it, then why do pro players hit bad shots? How does anyone wiff a shot completely? Did their muscle memory forget all of the sudden?

 

Hand eye coordination is how and why many golfers can stand in a variety of stances with varying length clubs and hit a multitude of different types of shots and different lengths. It's how someone can smash a ball Happy Gilmore style. It's how long drive guys out hit must of us from their knees.

[straightshot7]

Really? Any reasoning for that?

 

No. You're just a moron.

 

Read this article:

 

https://golfstateofm...ation-and-golf/

 

How does Iron Byron hit perfect shots every time with no eyes genius?

 

hahaha I laughed so hard at this and then even harder when the article says it too!!!

 

 

 

 

As far as your argument that hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it, then why do pro players hit bad shots? How does anyone wiff a shot completely? Did their muscle memory forget all of the sudden?

 

Hand eye coordination is how and why many golfers can stand in a variety of stances with varying length clubs and hit a multitude of different types of shots and different lengths. It's how someone can smash a ball Happy Gilmore style. It's how long drive guys out hit must of us from their knees.

 

I never said "hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it". I only said that it is not a major factor and not nearly as important as it is in other sports.

 

The fact that blind people can play good golf proves that. I don't see how you can think otherwise.

 

Pro players hit bad shots because they make bad swings or a swing that is just a fraction off. Their balance, rhythm, ball position, timing, angle of attack, grip pressure, turn, etc. could be just a hair off. All things that have nothing to do with hand eye coordination. What's your theory? That they hit bad shots because they have a temporary lapse in hand eye coordination!?

 

You really think long drive guys "out hit must of us from their knees" because they have superior hand eye coordination? Really?

[agentsunday]

Your basic no-look off the roots.

 

 

[MrJones]

Really? Any reasoning for that?

 

No. You're just a moron.

 

Read this article:

 

https://golfstateofm...ation-and-golf/

 

How does Iron Byron hit perfect shots every time with no eyes genius?

 

hahaha I laughed so hard at this and then even harder when the article says it too!!!

 

 

 

 

As far as your argument that hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it, then why do pro players hit bad shots? How does anyone wiff a shot completely? Did their muscle memory forget all of the sudden?

 

Hand eye coordination is how and why many golfers can stand in a variety of stances with varying length clubs and hit a multitude of different types of shots and different lengths. It's how someone can smash a ball Happy Gilmore style. It's how long drive guys out hit must of us from their knees.

 

I never said "hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it". I only said that it is not a major factor and not nearly as important as it is in other sports.

 

Pro players hit bad shots because they make bad swings or a swing that is just a fraction off. What's your theory? That they hit bad shots because they have a temporary lapse in hand eye coordination!?

 

The fact that blind people can play good golf proves that. I don't see how you can think otherwise.

 

You really think long drive guys "out hit must of us from their knees" because they have superior hand eye coordination? Really?

 

Yes. I really do. It's the difference between average Joe and great players. I have to aim a blind person and then place the ball in the swing path for them. You say it's a fact that blind people can play good golf but I doubt you've actually looked at the net scores of some of the best blind players in the world during tournament play. All credit to them as they would destroy me if I had to play blindfolded along with them. Even your articles only claims they have the "potential" to hit great shots.

 

Iron Byron will mishit 100% of the time if you don't place the ball in the perfect position it's designed for.

 

you think Bubba hit's his monster curves by just changing his setup and making the exact same swing for every shot??

 

I can hit an iron while standing on a root or down in a bunker with the ball 10 inches above my feet. I don't have muscle memory to do this. Each lie I get that isn't perfectly flat requires a different balance point for my body. I can hit a ball higher or lower, longer or shorter all with the same iron. All of this is due to hand eye coordination.

[bscinstnct]

Wouldn't it be Eye/Hand coordination for sports.

 

Hand/Eye coordination? Be like

 

[agentsunday]

This is stellar. Eye hand coordination is critical when you have to play your shot backhanded from a tree.

 

[straightshot7]

Really? Any reasoning for that?

 

No. You're just a moron.

 

Read this article:

 

https://golfstateofm...ation-and-golf/

 

How does Iron Byron hit perfect shots every time with no eyes genius?

 

hahaha I laughed so hard at this and then even harder when the article says it too!!!

 

 

 

 

As far as your argument that hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it, then why do pro players hit bad shots? How does anyone wiff a shot completely? Did their muscle memory forget all of the sudden?

 

Hand eye coordination is how and why many golfers can stand in a variety of stances with varying length clubs and hit a multitude of different types of shots and different lengths. It's how someone can smash a ball Happy Gilmore style. It's how long drive guys out hit must of us from their knees.

 

I never said "hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it". I only said that it is not a major factor and not nearly as important as it is in other sports.

 

Pro players hit bad shots because they make bad swings or a swing that is just a fraction off. What's your theory? That they hit bad shots because they have a temporary lapse in hand eye coordination!?

 

The fact that blind people can play good golf proves that. I don't see how you can think otherwise.

 

You really think long drive guys "out hit must of us from their knees" because they have superior hand eye coordination? Really?

 

Yes. I really do. It's the difference between average Joe and great players. I have to aim a blind person and then place the ball in the swing path for them. You say it's a fact that blind people can play good golf but I doubt you've actually looked at the net scores of some of the best blind players in the world during tournament play. All credit to them as they would destroy me if I had to play blindfolded along with them. Even your articles only claims they have the "potential" to hit great shots.

 

Iron Byron will mishit 100% of the time if you don't place the ball in the perfect position it's designed for.

 

you think Bubba hit's his monster curves by just changing his setup and making the exact same swing for every shot??

 

I can hit an iron while standing on a root or down in a bunker with the ball 10 inches above my feet. I don't have muscle memory to do this. Each lie I get that isn't perfectly flat requires a different balance point for my body. I can hit a ball higher or lower, longer or shorter all with the same iron. All of this is due to hand eye coordination.

 

Again, I don't think that hand-eye coordination is totally irrelevant or absent in golf.

 

However, I think you are drastically overestimating its influence.

 

Long drive hitters create tremendous speed in a variety of ways. Speed hits the ball far. Not hand eye coordination.

 

If I found the person in the world with the best hand eye coordination, you think they would hit the ball further than anyone else? Come on.

 

Bubba uses his hands and body to create a particular swing path that creates a certain ball flight. With the ball in a stationary position, hand eye was not a key factor in his ability to do this. Do you really think that Bubba's ability to shape shots is because of his superior hand eye coordination?

 

We can just agree to disagree.

[OcRockRoller]

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

 

Congratulations. That's the dumbest thing EVER written.

 

Really? Any reasoning for that?

 

No. You're just a moron.

 

Read this article:

 

https://golfstateofmind.com/hand-eye-coordination-and-golf/

 

How does Iron Byron hit perfect shots every time with no eyes genius?

 

 

Lol, you do realize Iron Byron is a programmed machine that’s not a real human being right?

 

And I have played with a blind world champion from the 80% blind division. He needed a lot of help but could definitely make his way around so I understand what your saying but I think your a little off base. Our eyes create the program the same way the computer creates the program for iron Byron. Also I believe we use a lot of the hand eye stuff when connecting to targets, especially when getting a feel for a shot. I think that’s even more important around a green. I get that Movement patterns are a huge part of this game and there’s a lot of ways to play the game, but there’s a reason not a single player on any tour is blind. Hand-eye is important

[straightshot7]

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

 

Congratulations. That's the dumbest thing EVER written.

 

Really? Any reasoning for that?

 

No. You're just a moron.

 

Read this article:

 

https://golfstateofm...ation-and-golf/

 

How does Iron Byron hit perfect shots every time with no eyes genius?

 

 

Lol, you do realize Iron Byron is a programmed machine that's not a real human being right?

 

And I have played with a blind world champion from the 80% blind division. He needed a lot of help but could definitely make his way around so I understand what your saying but I think your a little off base. Our eyes create the program the same way the computer creates the program for iron Byron. Also I believe we use a lot of the hand eye stuff when connecting to targets, especially when getting a feel for a shot. I think that's even more important around a green. I get that Movement patterns are a huge part of this game and there's a lot of ways to play the game, but there's a reason not a single player on any tour is blind. Hand-eye is important

 

Any Iron Byron programming is to produce a swing though. He doesn't utilize hand eye coordination because he doesn't need any. If he were programmed to detect and hit a moving object, that could be compared to hand eye coordination.

 

"Connecting to targets" and "getting a feel for a shot" is not hand-eye coordination. That's visualization and mind-body coordination. The ability to take in the surroundings, formulate the proper setup and swing and visualize it has 0 to do with hand-eye coordination.

[bscinstnct]

Ender be sporting eye hand like

 

[Sean2]

Bubba Watson, John Daly, to name two.

[OcRockRoller]

Sorry to be a jerk but hand eye coordination is not a big factor in golf.

 

 

Congratulations. That's the dumbest thing EVER written.

 

Really? Any reasoning for that?

 

No. You're just a moron.

 

Read this article:

 

https://golfstateofm...ation-and-golf/

 

How does Iron Byron hit perfect shots every time with no eyes genius?

 

 

Lol, you do realize Iron Byron is a programmed machine that's not a real human being right?

 

And I have played with a blind world champion from the 80% blind division. He needed a lot of help but could definitely make his way around so I understand what your saying but I think your a little off base. Our eyes create the program the same way the computer creates the program for iron Byron. Also I believe we use a lot of the hand eye stuff when connecting to targets, especially when getting a feel for a shot. I think that's even more important around a green. I get that Movement patterns are a huge part of this game and there's a lot of ways to play the game, but there's a reason not a single player on any tour is blind. Hand-eye is important

 

Any Iron Byron programming is to produce a swing though. He doesn't utilize hand eye coordination because he doesn't need any. If he were programmed to detect and hit a moving object, that could be compared to hand eye coordination.

 

"Connecting to targets" and "getting a feel for a shot" is not hand-eye coordination. That's visualization and mind-body coordination. The ability to take in the surroundings, formulate the proper setup and swing and visualize it has 0 to do with hand-eye coordination.

 

 

Isn’t visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination? Sure sounds like it. Both my eyes and my hands are connected to my brain, at least I think they still are. Idk ?!?!? You’re reaching pal, don’t believe everything you read I guess is the moral of this story

[straightshot7]

Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination? Sure sounds like it. Both my eyes and my hands are connected to my brain, at least I think they still are. Idk ?!?!? You're reaching pal, don't believe everything you read I guess is the moral of this story

 

I'm reaching? You're equating pre-shot visualization with hand eye coordination. lol.

 

"Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination?" -- NO.

 

Hand-eye coordination, or eye-hand coordination, is the ability to do activities that require the simultaneous use of our hands and eyes.

 

Everything you described that takes place prior to the actual swing (taking in the surroundings, connecting to the target, getting a feel for the shot, visualizing a shot, "feeling" the desired swing) has no use for your hands.

 

The only time hand-eye coordination could be considered in play during golf is during the swing. Since that is the only time you require the simultaneous use of your hands AND eyes.

[OcRockRoller]

Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination? Sure sounds like it. Both my eyes and my hands are connected to my brain, at least I think they still are. Idk ?!?!? You're reaching pal, don't believe everything you read I guess is the moral of this story

 

I'm reaching? You're equating pre-shot visualization with hand eye coordination. lol.

 

"Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination?" -- NO.

 

Hand-eye coordination, or eye-hand coordination, is the ability to do activities that require the simultaneous use of our hands and eyes.

 

Everything you described that takes place prior to the actual swing (taking in the surroundings, connecting to the target, getting a feel for the shot, visualizing a shot, "feeling" the desired swing) has no use for your hands.

 

The only time hand-eye coordination could be considered in play during golf is during the swing. Since that is the only time you require the simultaneous use of your hands AND eyes.

 

You’re right, I guess I don’t use my hands or my eyes when I play golf. Who knew?!?! silly me for thinking otherwise.

[straightshot7]

Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination? Sure sounds like it. Both my eyes and my hands are connected to my brain, at least I think they still are. Idk ?!?!? You're reaching pal, don't believe everything you read I guess is the moral of this story

 

I'm reaching? You're equating pre-shot visualization with hand eye coordination. lol.

 

"Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination?" -- NO.

 

Hand-eye coordination, or eye-hand coordination, is the ability to do activities that require the simultaneous use of our hands and eyes.

 

Everything you described that takes place prior to the actual swing (taking in the surroundings, connecting to the target, getting a feel for the shot, visualizing a shot, "feeling" the desired swing) has no use for your hands.

 

The only time hand-eye coordination could be considered in play during golf is during the swing. Since that is the only time you require the simultaneous use of your hands AND eyes.

 

You're right, I guess I don't use my hands or my eyes when I play golf. Who knew?!?! silly me for thinking otherwise.

 

Is this what happens when you can't understand something or realize you're wrong? You resort to sarcasm?

 

It's childish.

[OcRockRoller]

Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination? Sure sounds like it. Both my eyes and my hands are connected to my brain, at least I think they still are. Idk ?!?!? You're reaching pal, don't believe everything you read I guess is the moral of this story

 

I'm reaching? You're equating pre-shot visualization with hand eye coordination. lol.

 

"Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination?" -- NO.

 

Hand-eye coordination, or eye-hand coordination, is the ability to do activities that require the simultaneous use of our hands and eyes.

 

Everything you described that takes place prior to the actual swing (taking in the surroundings, connecting to the target, getting a feel for the shot, visualizing a shot, "feeling" the desired swing) has no use for your hands.

 

The only time hand-eye coordination could be considered in play during golf is during the swing. Since that is the only time you require the simultaneous use of your hands AND eyes.

 

You're right, I guess I don't use my hands or my eyes when I play golf. Who knew?!?! silly me for thinking otherwise.

 

Is this what happens when you can't understand something or realize you're wrong? You resort to sarcasm?

 

It's childish.

 

 

If you read my first post I said I understood where your coming from, I didn’t say you were dumb like others did. Also saying I’ve played with a blind person who was also a world champion in his division and understood that comparison. I could list all the people I’ve worked with and currently work with while living my dream in golf, but I’m not that type of person. You sir are the one making an usual claim that frankly has maybe has a quarter of validity but is a little off base. Sarcaism is low brow but so is being unreasonable and insinuating that a golf robot is a person by calling it a he.

[straightshot7]

Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination? Sure sounds like it. Both my eyes and my hands are connected to my brain, at least I think they still are. Idk ?!?!? You're reaching pal, don't believe everything you read I guess is the moral of this story

 

I'm reaching? You're equating pre-shot visualization with hand eye coordination. lol.

 

"Isn't visualization-mind-body coordination just a fancy way to say hand-eye coordination?" -- NO.

 

Hand-eye coordination, or eye-hand coordination, is the ability to do activities that require the simultaneous use of our hands and eyes.

 

Everything you described that takes place prior to the actual swing (taking in the surroundings, connecting to the target, getting a feel for the shot, visualizing a shot, "feeling" the desired swing) has no use for your hands.

 

The only time hand-eye coordination could be considered in play during golf is during the swing. Since that is the only time you require the simultaneous use of your hands AND eyes.

 

You're right, I guess I don't use my hands or my eyes when I play golf. Who knew?!?! silly me for thinking otherwise.

 

Is this what happens when you can't understand something or realize you're wrong? You resort to sarcasm?

 

It's childish.

 

 

If you read my first post I said I understood where your coming from, I didn't say you were dumb like others did. Also saying I've played with a blind person who was also a world champion in his division and understood that comparison. I could list all the people I've worked with and currently work with while living my dream in golf, but I'm not that type of person. You sir are the one making an usual claim that frankly has maybe has a quarter of validity but is a little off base. Sarcaism is low brow but so is being unreasonable and insinuating that a golf robot is a person by calling it a he.

 

I explained how pre-shot visualization and everything you described does not require any hand-eye coordination. You ignored that and replied completely sarcastically as if it was a dumb comment.

 

My point is perfectly valid and you made no attempt to refute it.

 

"I could list all the people I've worked with and currently work with while living my dream in golf, but I'm not that type of person." - - what the heck does this have to do with anything?

 

Also, me calling Iron Byron a "he" does not mean I am insinuating "it" is a person. "He" is just the default pronoun in the English language. Are you being serious?

 

This is obviously going nowhere. It doesn't seem like you are open to considering what hand eye coordination actually is and how it actually occurs in golf.

 

I'm not going to keep replying to these comments because clearly everyone has their mind made up and that's fine.

 

Wish you the best.

[Yuck]

Really? Any reasoning for that?

 

No. You're just a moron.

 

Read this article:

 

https://golfstateofm...ation-and-golf/

 

How does Iron Byron hit perfect shots every time with no eyes genius?

 

hahaha I laughed so hard at this and then even harder when the article says it too!!!

 

 

 

 

As far as your argument that hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it, then why do pro players hit bad shots? How does anyone wiff a shot completely? Did their muscle memory forget all of the sudden?

 

Hand eye coordination is how and why many golfers can stand in a variety of stances with varying length clubs and hit a multitude of different types of shots and different lengths. It's how someone can smash a ball Happy Gilmore style. It's how long drive guys out hit must of us from their knees.

 

I never said "hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it". I only said that it is not a major factor and not nearly as important as it is in other sports.

 

The fact that blind people can play good golf proves that. I don't see how you can think otherwise.

 

Pro players hit bad shots because they make bad swings or a swing that is just a fraction off. Their balance, rhythm, ball position, timing, angle of attack, grip pressure, turn, etc. could be just a hair off. All things that have nothing to do with hand eye coordination. What's your theory? That they hit bad shots because they have a temporary lapse in hand eye coordination!?

 

You really think long drive guys "out hit must of us from their knees" because they have superior hand eye coordination? Really?

 

 

By this line of thought, Darts is not hand eye coordination. I actually thought Darts were almost entirely hand / eye coordination.

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Really? Any reasoning for that?

 

No. You're just a moron.

 

Read this article:

 

https://golfstateofm...ation-and-golf/

 

How does Iron Byron hit perfect shots every time with no eyes genius?

 

hahaha I laughed so hard at this and then even harder when the article says it too!!!

 

 

 

 

As far as your argument that hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it, then why do pro players hit bad shots? How does anyone wiff a shot completely? Did their muscle memory forget all of the sudden?

 

Hand eye coordination is how and why many golfers can stand in a variety of stances with varying length clubs and hit a multitude of different types of shots and different lengths. It's how someone can smash a ball Happy Gilmore style. It's how long drive guys out hit must of us from their knees.

 

I never said "hand eye coordination have nothing to do with it". I only said that it is not a major factor and not nearly as important as it is in other sports.

 

Pro players hit bad shots because they make bad swings or a swing that is just a fraction off. What's your theory? That they hit bad shots because they have a temporary lapse in hand eye coordination!?

 

The fact that blind people can play good golf proves that. I don't see how you can think otherwise.

 

You really think long drive guys "out hit must of us from their knees" because they have superior hand eye coordination? Really?

 

Yes. I really do. It's the difference between average Joe and great players. I have to aim a blind person and then place the ball in the swing path for them. You say it's a fact that blind people can play good golf but I doubt you've actually looked at the net scores of some of the best blind players in the world during tournament play. All credit to them as they would destroy me if I had to play blindfolded along with them. Even your articles only claims they have the "potential" to hit great shots.

 

Iron Byron will mishit 100% of the time if you don't place the ball in the perfect position it's designed for.

 

you think Bubba hit's his monster curves by just changing his setup and making the exact same swing for every shot??

 

I can hit an iron while standing on a root or down in a bunker with the ball 10 inches above my feet. I don't have muscle memory to do this. Each lie I get that isn't perfectly flat requires a different balance point for my body. I can hit a ball higher or lower, longer or shorter all with the same iron. All of this is due to hand eye coordination.

 

Again, I don't think that hand-eye coordination is totally irrelevant or absent in golf.

 

However, I think you are drastically overestimating its influence.

 

Long drive hitters create tremendous speed in a variety of ways. Speed hits the ball far. Not hand eye coordination.

 

If I found the person in the world with the best hand eye coordination, you think they would hit the ball further than anyone else? Come on.

 

Bubba uses his hands and body to create a particular swing path that creates a certain ball flight. With the ball in a stationary position, hand eye was not a key factor in his ability to do this. Do you really think that Bubba's ability to shape shots is because of his superior hand eye coordination?

 

We can just agree to disagree.

 

yes.. we certainly can agree that we disagree... I know what a naturally coordinated beginner vs a guy who will never break 80 with 20 years of lessons looks like.. 100% of the time that same guy cannot shoot a free throw , cant throw a football, cant play tennis and cant catch a pop fly...

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yes.. we certainly can agree that we disagree... I know what a naturally coordinated beginner vs a guy who will never break 80 with 20 years of lessons looks like.. 100% of the time that same guy cannot shoot a free throw , cant throw a football, cant play tennis and cant catch a pop fly...

 

So you equate athleticism exclusively with hand eye coordination?

 

As you said the "naturally coordinated" person---you think that is because of hand eye coordination?

 

Do you not think that that person also naturally runs better, swims better, climbs better, uses their feet in general better, etc?

 

Hand eye coordination is only 1 factor in what makes someone athletic. The guys in the NBA and NFL are not there because of hand eye coordination. They are there because they are bigger, faster, stronger, better coordinated, jump higher, better balance etc. hand eye coordination is just 1 tool in their superior athletic skill set.

 

Sorry to use the blind as an example again...but I'm sure we could find the same proportion of athletic blind people and non-athletic blind people. None of them have hand-eye coordination, so how is that they are still naturally different athletically?