Cage Match to the DEATH: LPGA Tour vs. Middle-aged Scratch and Below

[aabcuue]

3 hours ago, UncleJohn’sBand said:

I don’t think people can understand how true this is if they’ve never played at a high level. It’s just golf. And the only reason you still play golf is for the last three holes of a tournament when you’re one behind/tied/one ahead and trying to win. Can’t replicate or describe it if you’ve never felt it. 

But it’s addictive. 

Around both tours, there is a saying/belief that…

you get in position for rounds 1 to 3

but the tournament really begins on the back nine.

When nervous system pulses and everyone starts gripping tighter while the adrenaline pumps. Shots distance changes and accuracy is different.

Add more intensity and pressure for majors and Solheim/Ryder cups. This is where a pro is markedly different than any amateur or plus hcp.

[Obee]

35 minutes ago, aabcuue said:

Major problem, don’t assume.

 

Never stated which courses, what year setup and which majors.

 

Only said area course didn’t say which states.

I see ...

[delfam]

Why was he thinking marking the ball? 🤣

[ThinkingPlus]

1 minute ago, delfam said:

Why was he thinking marking the ball? 🤣

Wrong thread? LOL!!!

[jimecherry]

1 hour ago, aabcuue said:

Around both tours, there is a saying/belief that…

you get in position for rounds 1 to 3

but the tournament really begins on the back nine.

When nervous system pulses and everyone starts gripping tighter while the adrenaline pumps. Shots distance changes and accuracy is different.

Add more intensity and pressure for majors and Solheim/Ryder cups. This is where some pros are markedly different than many amateurs or plus hcp.

not all pros are created equal ie david lipsky and brian cambell hooked tee shots today brian even made a double off of his and still managed to win 

[iBanesto]

15 hours ago, Jayjay_theweim_guy said:

Again, let's compare relative population sizes of men vs women who are interested in pursuing chess at that high of a level.  One pool is going to be immensely bigger than another.

 

If you want to open the door to a discussion of men's inherent cognitive abilities versus women's are the reason why they dominate high-level chess competition...it'll make discussing gender differences in performance at the highest levels of golf, seem tame.  Have at it.

 

[jt2gt]

Lydia Ko and Luke Kwon just played a round together.  He's not a bad stick for an influencer and from his posts about it, looks like she smoked him.

[jimecherry]

5 minutes ago, jt2gt said:

Lydia Ko and Luke Kwon just played a round together.  He's not a bad stick for an influencer and from his posts about it, looks like she smoked him.

unlike lexi number 43 in the world lydia #3 is not retired ;}

[jimecherry]

not exactly a lpga tour pro but +4 aint nothing to sneeze at. same tees match play scoring  :{

 

[TiScape]

[Obee]

1 hour ago, jimecherry said:

not exactly a lpga tour pro but +4 aint nothing to sneeze at. same tees match play scoring  :{

 

And???

[jimecherry]

1 minute ago, Obee said:

And???

tldw: the scratch lost

[Titleist99]

On 7/6/2025 at 4:58 PM, aabcuue said:

Around both tours, there is a saying/belief that…

you get in position for rounds 1 to 3

but the tournament really begins on the back nine.

When nervous system pulses and everyone starts gripping tighter while the adrenaline pumps. Shots distance changes and accuracy is different.

Add more intensity and pressure for majors and Solheim/Ryder cups. This is where a pro is markedly different than any amateur or plus hcp.

 

I'm trying to come up with a category called "Strokes Gained Pressure." 🙂

[jimecherry]

2 hours ago, Titleist99 said:

 

I'm trying to come up with a category called "Strokes Gained Pressure." 🙂

how about strokes lost under pressure

[AZBRONCFAN]

Foreplay announced they are going to host this match in the future. Start at the normal LPGA length tees and then move them back after the scratch guys get dusted and use the tee excuse.

[kthomas]

Pretty funny how highly scratch golfers think of themselves

 

 

[straightshot7]

16 hours ago, AZBRONCFAN said:

Foreplay announced they are going to host this match in the future. Start at the normal LPGA length tees and then move them back after the scratch guys get dusted and use the tee excuse.

 

hopefully at some point they find an actual "traveling scratch" or "tournament scratch".

 

There are many psuedo-0 handicaps who just play the same home country club course over and over. There are some courses out there that are simply easy, with no danger or trouble to be found on the course.

 

Make this guy travel and he's not actually "scratch" anymore. He's more like a 5 on a random course that is relatively difficult.

 

LPGA players are used to playing different setups every week. They will always wax this 5 (supposedly 0) handicap.

 

Put a good D2 or D1 male out there who is used to playing different courses and is actually capable of shooting under par on a new venue, and it may be a close match. 

[Obee]

30 minutes ago, straightshot7 said:

 

hopefully at some point they find an actual "traveling scratch" or "tournament scratch".

 

There are many psuedo-0 handicaps who just play the same home country club course over and over. There are some courses out there that are simply easy, with no danger or trouble to be found on the course.

 

Make this guy travel and he's not actually "scratch" anymore. He's more like a 5 on a random course that is relatively difficult.

 

LPGA players are used to playing different setups every week. They will always wax this 5 (supposedly 0) handicap.

 

Put a good D2 or D1 male out there who is used to playing different courses and is actually capable of shooting under par on a new venue, and it may be a close match. 

But a good D1 male is going to generally be +1 to +3. Or SIGNIFICANTLY lower for the top guys.

[straightshot7]

1 hour ago, Obee said:

But a good D1 male is going to generally be +1 to +3. Or SIGNIFICANTLY lower for the top guys.

yeah I’m just saying what I think it would actually take to win.

 

im sure there someone in D2 or D1 with a zero. Even if it’s not accurate …

 

Or it could be someone equivalent who is not in college. But I don’t know how to identify them.

 

someone who consistently shoots close to par in legit tournaments?

Edited July 9 by straightshot7

[WesternRacing]

7 hours ago, straightshot7 said:

 

hopefully at some point they find an actual "traveling scratch" or "tournament scratch".

 

There are many psuedo-0 handicaps who just play the same home country club course over and over. There are some courses out there that are simply easy, with no danger or trouble to be found on the course.

 

Make this guy travel and he's not actually "scratch" anymore. He's more like a 5 on a random course that is relatively difficult.

 

 

IMHO, it’s not a matter of difficulty, it’s a matter of familiarity.  I play better on my course versus easier courses away simply because I know my course like the back of my hand.  I know yardages from everywhere, I know the green sizes and slopes, pin positions, bunkers that are easy and that are trouble, and, especially, where NOT to hit the ball.  Playing a random course with no knowledge of those things puts me at a disadvantage right off the bat.  IMO, lack of course knowledge can easily be 3-5 strokes during a round, even if you play just as good as you would at home.  I find that my index travels fine to courses that I’m familiar with or have an excellent caddie leading me around, and it doesn’t when I just show up to a new place and tee it up.

 

Edited July 10 by WesternRacing

[WesternRacing]

On 7/8/2025 at 9:49 AM, jimecherry said:

tldw: the scratch lost

 

Naht possible.  I learnt early er in this here thread that a womenz cayn’t beet a man.

[farmer]

6 hours ago, Obee said:

But a good D1 male is going to generally be +1 to +3. Or SIGNIFICANTLY lower for the top guys.

That D1 +1 to +3 is not a 40+ year old scratch, so they're out.

[JungleJimbo]

LPGA pros are elite athletes ... notice the washboard abs of Nelly Korda

 

Source: https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?events=776354173&family=editorial&phrase=%22Nelly%20Korda%22&recency=last24hours&sort=best

 

 

 

[iBanesto]

4 hours ago, JungleJimbo said:

LPGA pros are elite athletes ... notice the washboard abs of Nelly Korda

 

Source: https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?events=776354173&family=editorial&phrase=%22Nelly%20Korda%22&recency=last24hours&sort=best

 

 

 

 

But can N. Korda beat T. Bjorn?

 

[ThinkingPlus]

3 hours ago, iBanesto said:

 

But can N. Korda beat T. Bjorn?

 

Thomas has washing machine abs...

[Rapidcat]

5 minutes ago, ThinkingPlus said:

Thomas has washing machine abs...

 

Or he's the pregnant one.

[JungleJimbo]

44 minutes ago, ThinkingPlus said:

Thomas has washing machine abs...

 

39 minutes ago, Rapidcat said:

 

Or he's the pregnant one.

 

OK perhaps we don't compare Thomas Bjorn with Nelly Korda

 

... how about Pauline Roussin-Bouchard

(currently #64 on the LPGA's Race to CME Globe season standings/rankings

... when she isn't participating in martial arts, boxer and ultra-marathon runner

... albeit not sure why she seems to be cradling a box of fried empanada, in this victory photo after completing a road race, on her birthday last week i.e. 5 July 2025, prior to this week's Evian Championships major! timestamp 2:28 in the video linked below)

 

 

Edited July 10 by JungleJimbo

[Rapidcat]

28 minutes ago, JungleJimbo said:

 

 

OK perhaps we don't compare Thomas Bjorn with Nelly Korda

 

... how about Pauline Roussin-Bouchard

(currently #64 on the LPGA's Race to CME Globe season standings/rankings

... when she isn't participating in martial arts, boxer and ultra-marathon runner

... albeit not sure why she seems to be cradling a box of fried empanada, in this victory photo after completing a road race, on her birthday last week i.e. 5 July 2025, prior to this week's Evian Championships major! timestamp 2:28 in the video linked below)

 

 

 

I can think that maybe Pauline runs so that she feels happy to eat whatever she likes.

[Titleist99]

5 hours ago, iBanesto said:

 

But can N. Korda beat T. Bjorn?

 

He's one of us. 😂 (ab-less)

[TiScape]

2 hours ago, ThinkingPlus said:

Thomas has washing machine abs...

Or a keg!