Cage Match to the DEATH: LPGA Tour vs. Middle-aged Scratch and Below

[TiScape]

6 minutes ago, Frank Newport said:

I don’t like her chances in this match.

 

Wait, now we are making it D1 ladies vs. PGAT players??? 😵‍💫 

[TiScape]

Im confused by ur confused reaction @gsrjc 

 

Im happy to explain my post if you’d like to put into words what ur confused about. 😊

[drn92]

2 hours ago, NorthTexasGlfr said:

 

Couldn't tell for sure but doesn't the 18th hole also play a tad downhill?

Guys on this thread are looking for any excuse they can find ...

 

drn92

[gsrjc]

6 minutes ago, TiScape said:

Im confused by ur confused reaction @gsrjc 

 

Im happy to explain my post if you’d like to put into words what ur confused about. 😊

Oh I was aligned with you but not sure how to do it with an emoji when I was reacted. We should not be comparing D1 to PGA pros.

 

 

[TiScape]

2 minutes ago, gsrjc said:

Oh I was aligned with you but not sure how to do it with an emoji when I was reacted. We should not be comparing D1 to PGA pros.

 

 

Thanks. I think that’s one even WRX can agree on! (Maybe??? Haha)

[jimecherry]

40 minutes ago, Frank Newport said:

I don’t like her chances in this match.

 

Wait Jake isnt Knapps first name? i'm disappointed ;}

[AZBRONCFAN]

4 hours ago, WesternRacing said:

Was thinking of this thread this morning while watching Thitikul go driver-six iron (over the green) on the 484 yard par five 18th.  I’m sure that’s what most scratch WRXers would be doing…

 

Oh, and then she got up and down for birdie.  Easy peasy stuff.

 

All the one's I've have argued that they would get their a** kicked hit is 300 carry 3 finger fades down the middle every single time. They never miss fairways. I bet if I actually had a convo with them they would say the reason they aren't on tour is because they dont practice! They never have a response to when I tell them they are closer to me(10 handicap) than a touring pro.

[straightshot7]

31 minutes ago, gsrjc said:

Oh I was aligned with you but not sure how to do it with an emoji when I was reacted. We should not be comparing D1 to PGA pros.

 

 

pga pros are superior. They have to go through a rigorous training academy and they know the golf swing inside out. 

[gsrjc]

28 minutes ago, straightshot7 said:

pga pros are superior. They have to go through a rigorous training academy and they know the golf swing inside out. 

I think we all agree on that. 

[fowlerscousin]

Im looking at the leaderboard of the most recent lpga event. 75% of the field finished at +2 or worse on a 6500 course

[DrLeoMarvin]

1 hour ago, jimecherry said:

Wait Jake isnt Knapps first name? i'm disappointed ;}

I was expecting Jakeob 

[NorthTexasGlfr]

14 minutes ago, fowlerscousin said:

Im looking at the leaderboard of the most recent lpga event. 75% of the field finished at +2 or worse on a 6500 course

 

What is the course rating and slope for the course they played?

[fowlerscousin]

7 minutes ago, NorthTexasGlfr said:

 

What is the course rating and slope for the course they played?

71.8 145

[straightshot7]

1 hour ago, gsrjc said:

I think we all agree on that. 

I was being sarcastic and I hope you are as well 😂

[AZBRONCFAN]

1 hour ago, fowlerscousin said:

Im looking at the leaderboard of the most recent lpga event. 75% of the field finished at +2 or worse on a 6500 course

What do you think a scratch golfer would shoot from those tees?

Edited July 13 by AZBRONCFAN

[fowlerscousin]

8 minutes ago, AZBRONCFAN said:

What do you think a scratch golfer would shoot from those tees?

I've witnessed a 2 handicap shoot 6 under. Steph curry as a scratch shot 71 on a web dot com setup. So a good scratch golfer in a good week would shoot around par

[chisag]

1 hour ago, fowlerscousin said:

Im looking at the leaderboard of the most recent lpga event. 75% of the field finished at +2 or worse on a 6500 course

 

 

... Nelly Korda shot +4 on Friday on that 6504yds. Anyone think a scratch player has a chance of beating Nelly? 🫣

[fowlerscousin]

1 minute ago, chisag said:

 

 

... Nelly Korda shot +4 on Friday on that 6504yds. Anyone think a scratch player has a chance of beating Nelly? 🫣

On that one day, seems so. Definitely out of character for her

[chisag]

2 minutes ago, fowlerscousin said:

On that one day, seems so. Definitely out of character for her

 

 

... Bad day for sure but probably more accurate, many LPGA players struggled on that day playing a meaningful Major and a scratch player would be in waaaaay over their head. 

[fowlerscousin]

2 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

 

... Bad day for sure but probably more accurate, many LPGA players struggled on that day playing a meaningful Major and a scratch player would be in waaaaay over their head. 

Theres a running theme in this thread where people pretend that scratch players never have a good round

[Red4282]

Just watched the highlights at the evian… sorry…but it didnt look great for the ladies. 455 yard par 5 with whopping 147 ball speed off driver from leaders. The course setup looked -eh, not tough, no thick rough, easier pins, par 3s were pitching wedges and 9 irons. Looking at score card for that course, no way that was playing over 6400 yards or at at rating of max 71.

[Frank Newport]

4 hours ago, TiScape said:

Wait, now we are making it D1 ladies vs. PGAT players??? 😵‍💫 

If she’s going to pretend to be a +7.8 handicap, I think it’s only fair to have her face someone with a similar handicap.

 

I’ll take Jake and I’ll wager the largest number you know. She can have the .3 strokes.

[ThinkingPlus]

9 minutes ago, Frank Newport said:

If she’s going to pretend to be a +7.8 handicap, I think it’s only fair to have her face someone with a similar handicap.

 

I’ll take Jake and I’ll wager the largest number you know. She can have the .3 strokes.

I'm sure you realize that there is a difference between handicap indices of men and women. You are just trying to be sarcastic or something?

[gsrjc]

2 hours ago, straightshot7 said:

I was being sarcastic and I hope you are as well 😂

Of course. 

[WesternRacing]

6 hours ago, StoutKing said:

Not sure where he lives not.  If the US our food is in a lot of ways corrupted.  That's why there are so many obese people.  If he lives in Europe I'm not sure.

 

I dunno, the Champions Tour is filled with American’s who aren’t morbidly obese.  There’s definitely a lot of man boobage going on, but not much morbid obesity.  Bjorn looks like someone with serious health issues.  I mention it not to mock, but to express concern.  Someone close to him should be concerned.

[WesternRacing]

1 hour ago, fowlerscousin said:

Theres a running theme in this thread where people pretend that scratch players never have a good round

 

Good, as in LPGA pro good?  Rarely.  Maybe one or two of their 20. The other six rounds that count for their index are likely solid, country club low rounds.  The other 12 are classic amateur inconsistencies.

 

Anyone who plays regularly with scratch amateurs and then plays with elite female players, college or pro, and doesn’t walk away thinking that the elite women simply strike the ball differently (I.e, better and way more consistently) is either just not paying close attention or is purposely delusional.  I’m a solid five index and I can hang close with most of the scratch members at my club from round to round.  An elite female golfer would beat me so badly that I would need a session with a therapist before I tee’d it up again.  I know because I’ve actually played with some solid D1 female golfers and it’s comical how good they are compared to the average middle aged country club scratch sitting at the club’s bar running their mouth.

[WesternRacing]

4 hours ago, AZBRONCFAN said:

All the one's I've have argued that they would get their a** kicked hit is 300 carry 3 finger fades down the middle every single time. They never miss fairways. I bet if I actually had a convo with them they would say the reason they aren't on tour is because they dont practice! They never have a response to when I tell them they are closer to me(10 handicap) than a touring pro.

 

We’ve got a few middle aged low index/scratch ex mini tour players at our club that think they’re a swing tweak away from the Champions Tour.  Meanwhile, they’re not even breaking par at our country club most rounds and they NEVER win any of the club tournaments.  But with a gin and tonic in them at the bar, they’re the man!

[AZBRONCFAN]

2 hours ago, fowlerscousin said:

I've witnessed a 2 handicap shoot 6 under. Steph curry as a scratch shot 71 on a web dot com setup. So a good scratch golfer in a good week would shoot around par

Yeah no way. Especially over 4 rounds. Scratch golfers shoot mid 70s and rarely if ever break par on a real course. Plus you throw in the gimme putts, lateral drops, noodling ball, breakfast balls and all the other stuff they do, no chance. I know, I know, the scratch you play with dont do that but I've played with so many of these guys and they all seem to do when I play with them. Now put the crowd and cameras out there..........

 

A scratch is closer to a 10 handicap than contending with these gals. They would have lost by 30 at Erin Hills and the Frisco major playing 4 rounds.

[Red4282]

25 minutes ago, WesternRacing said:

 

Good, as in LPGA pro good?  Rarely.  Maybe one or two of their 20. The other six rounds that count for their index are likely solid, country club low rounds.  The other 12 are classic amateur inconsistencies.

 

Anyone who plays regularly with scratch amateurs and then plays with elite female players, college or pro, and doesn’t walk away thinking that the elite women simply strike the ball differently (I.e, better and way more consistently) is either just not paying close attention or is purposely delusional.  I’m a solid five index and I can hang close with most of the scratch members at my club from round to round.  An elite female golfer would beat me so badly that I would need a session with a therapist before I tee’d it up again.  I know because I’ve actually played with some solid D1 female golfers and it’s comical how good they are compared to the average middle aged country club scratch sitting at the club’s bar running their mouth.

 

24 minutes ago, WesternRacing said:

 

We’ve got a few middle aged low index/scratch ex mini tour players at our club that think they’re a swing tweak away from the Champions Tour.  Meanwhile, they’re not even breaking par at our country club most rounds and they NEVER win any of the club tournaments.  But with a gin and tonic in them at the bar, they’re the man!

 

14 minutes ago, AZBRONCFAN said:

Yeah no way. Especially over 4 rounds. Scratch golfers shoot mid 70s and rarely if ever break par on a real course. Plus you throw in the gimme putts, lateral drops, noodling ball, breakfast balls and all the other stuff they do, no chance. I know, I know, the scratch you play with dont do that but I've played with so many of these guys and they all seem to do when I play with them. Now put the crowd and cameras out there..........

 

A scratch is closer to a 10 handicap than contending with these gals. They would have lost by 30 at Erin Hills and the Frisco major playing 4 rounds.

I understand you guys are taking up for the ladies but lets pump the brakes lol….We have already established some very data based conclusions. That a male scratch would shoot around the course rating 40% of the time. At these LPGA setups, thats around par. Many many lpga rounds above par. Kinda getting old hearing all the anecdotal experiences with a few rounds you played with a handful of scratches or a really good female once. That isnt evidence of anything.

[AZBRONCFAN]

2 minutes ago, Red4282 said:

 

 

I understand you guys are taking up for the ladies but lets pump the brakes lol….We have already established some very data based conclusions. That a male scratch would shoot around the course rating 40% of the time. At these LPGA setups, thats around par. Many many lpga rounds above par. Kinda getting old hearing all the anecdotal experiences with a few rounds you played with a handful of scratches or a really good female once. That isnt evidence of anything.

A scratch shoots mid 70s and a few rounds in the 80s. You put them on the LPGA USO or the PGA this year they would have been 25 or more over par.