Has GolfWRX lost its Luster (Split from Lurker thread)

[vikingjunior]

The site has been very helpful especially with so many choices of clubs out there on the market.

[oregongolf]

That said, I think the organization of this site is a little cluttered. We have subforums upon subforums.

 

WORD. Is there seriously a legal sub-forum? Huh? So many forums leaves one wondering where the heck the interesting stuff is. Fewer, larger baskets of stuff would be better for the reader than a clutter of myopically-focused baskets with nothing in them.

until you realize about the constant proliferation of new threads... and the thread you wanted to read is three pages back.

 

organization is a good thing. i can only imagine how many threads would end up in a "general talk" forum where just about anything flies.

 

this place is and has been on the right track ever since i started posting here.

 

we're all ragging on the original poster, but he did the exact thing he was complaining about. he started a thought-provoking thread that gets people involved. kudos man. it's unlikely he's that sly, but either way... nice work.

[DRGJR72]

I don't really understand the complaint, as it is a free place to belong, and roam on. If you don't like it and feel that other sites are better, good luck and don't let the door hit you in the a**.

 

Also if you are relying on a website to improve your golf game....you are in trouble my friend. That is found in the dirt and not on some 17 inch computer screen....just as an FYI!!!!! You might be able to find some tips, but there is no substitute for a qualified instructor to look over your action and make sure you are doing the right things and understanding them as well.....that is what you miss out on via the internet.

 

DG

[themouth1]

I don't really understand the complaint, as it is a free place to belong, and roam on. If you don't like it and feel that other sites are better, good luck and don't let the door hit you in the a**.

 

Also if you are relying on a website to improve your golf game....you are in trouble my friend. That is found in the dirt and not on some 17 inch computer screen....just as an FYI!!!!! You might be able to find some tips, but there is no substitute for a qualified instructor to look over your action and make sure you are doing the right things and understanding them as well.....that is what you miss out on via the internet.

 

DG

 

To understand the quote, you would have to understand the poster and none of us do. He has had more than one run in with the mods and other members for statements he has made. Here is my suggestion for improving the site. Ban him...

[Langlands]

This thread is hilarious - does the original poster walk into coffee shops and complain to the owners that the other customers don't look very interesting, or aren't talking about things that he finds appealing?

 

As for the "lack" of credentials of the owners, they aren't claiming to be "qualified", and aren't offering some sort of bespoke Tour-only niche service. That's another website you're thinking of mate.

 

Brilliant. :shout:

[Golfchicago]

Guys let us try to focus on ideas. I know a lot of people that complain all the time even when things are going well. THEY like to stir the pot, THEY have no direction, THEY have no point. It is simple. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. We can sit here and talk about a problem until we are blue in the face anf get nowhere.

 

Golfwrx is ever growing and ever changing. We are always looking for ideas to make this a better website. Golfwrx has been wildly successful because it is unbiased, fair and interesting. If anyone has any ideas, we welcome your help! This is our site.

[TM golf guy]

I read the first post on this one, and that is all I need to read. If you don't like the site then don't be here and don't post. GolfWRX is a great site. Gxgolfer and easyyy have made an awesome site and the members here make it even better. To say this site has lost its luster is ludicrous.

[Gxgolfer]

until you realize about the constant proliferation of new threads... and the thread you wanted to read is three pages back.

 

organization is a good thing. i can only imagine how many threads would end up in a "general talk" forum where just about anything flies.

 

So if you're looking for an iron review, where do you go? Even when you decide to go there, do you think you'll find everything? No?

 

Then what good are the multitude of different forums, many of which could host the same thread? All they do is make the site harder to navigate. You have to use the search to find anything slightly old anyway ... and you miss many interesting threads because it would take all day to visit each and every forum & subforum.

 

Please give me an example. Maybe there is a lack of awareness on how to use the search features on the forums.

[TM golf guy]

until you realize about the constant proliferation of new threads... and the thread you wanted to read is three pages back.

 

organization is a good thing. i can only imagine how many threads would end up in a "general talk" forum where just about anything flies.

 

So if you're looking for an iron review, where do you go? Even when you decide to go there, do you think you'll find everything? No?

 

Then what good are the multitude of different forums, many of which could host the same thread? All they do is make the site harder to navigate. You have to use the search to find anything slightly old anyway ... and you miss many interesting threads because it would take all day to visit each and every forum & subforum.

 

Please give me an example. Maybe there is a lack of awareness on how to use the search features on the forums.

 

I hope this isn't an issue :shout: The search function is great on this site. Works very well. I often search to find info on past clubs on here.

[sandy]

Honestly, this site lost its luster long ago.

 

Three reasons.

 

One. It's too much about equipment. Understand marketing. It's all hype. Please. I could care less about Mizuno's MP 57s. Won't make a difference in my game at all. Neither will the next new product coming out in 2010 UNLESS the USGA alters equipment rules.

 

Two. There's no focus on this site.

 

Three. Does the sites' owners have any golf-related credentials? GSED? PGA certified teaching pro? Even play on a college golf team?

 

Probably not.

 

Which leads to my last point. How can members respect the authorities that create a website related to golf when they don't even have credentials related to golf?

 

I think that's why everyone feels like they can be their own king in here. There's no authority here that shows his face, hears his voice, understand his philosophies. ON GOLF.

 

I lurk to find the focus, to read something appealing, but there aren't many nowadays.

 

EDIT: I can see why this first post reads as "bashing". My apologies. No offense given to owners of site.

 

 

I was in the raw material business for years that supplied to the golf industry. I played on a Big Ten championship team. I finished in the top 20 at the NCAAs. I've won amateur golf tournaments. I've played with more PGA and LPGA pros than you can probably name. But that probably isn't squat compared to your (I'm sure) wonderful qualifications. What's wrong with people being their own king in here?? With my piss ant involvement in golf, I still think this is one of the better sites available. I certainly don't think anyone has to be a certified PGA teaching pro to run this site (by the way do you know what that involves?). They've certainly had a number of big names in the industry give interviews.

 

As for landing a big name that never works due to the jealous nature of people. Many other sites had PGA pros and well known reps. that were eventually driven away with the constant nasty barrage of questions--usually of a personal not equipment nature.

 

By the number of your posts you seem to have spent a lot of time here, so you must be getting something out of it. Just stay away from the equipment posts.

[Ezgolfer]

I like the freedom here and the ability for anyone to ask the dumbest question and fairly unbiased opinions .

I think the poster of this thread seems to have slightly hypercritical opinions .

Having said that , there does not need to be "my review of Mx 27" new thread , when there is a review section already. Also we should attempt to make some negative reviews as well to keep things balanced.

It is great to have experts running the forums , however they are always not necessary . What works for a computer related forum does not hold true a golf website.

[Gxgolfer]

Please give me an example. Maybe there is a lack of awareness on how to use the search features on the forums.

 

Search is great. It works. You have to use it to find anything around here. Heck, I commonly lose topics I've posted in when I go back to try to find them again.

 

Either "Unaswered" at the top or >>>>"Replies to My Post" will show topics you posted in.

[TexasAg]

Please give me an example. Maybe there is a lack of awareness on how to use the search features on the forums.

 

Search is great. It works. You have to use it to find anything around here. Heck, I commonly lose topics I've posted in when I go back to try to find them again.

 

Either "Unaswered" at the top or >>>>"Replies to My Post" will show topics you posted in.

 

I do 99% of my reading of Golfwrx via the "New Posts" or "Replies to My Posts" buttons.

[oregongolf]

Please give me an example. Maybe there is a lack of awareness on how to use the search features on the forums.

 

Search is great. It works. You have to use it to find anything around here. Heck, I commonly lose topics I've posted in when I go back to try to find them again.

 

Either "Unaswered" at the top or >>>>"Replies to My Post" will show topics you posted in.

 

I do 99% of my reading of Golfwrx via the "New Posts" or "Replies to My Posts" buttons.

Ditto.

 

It's probably one of the most underutilized features of the forum.

[Ogre41]

Personally I don't think the site has lost any of its luster at all. Far from that. There is something here for everyone, be it equipment eye-candy (by far my favorite), swing theory, clubmaking advice (just ask a question there, you get 12 responses by the next day), and even totally non golf related stuff in the 19th hole. It works for me. If it didn't, then I would go and visit one of the other golf forums that I belong to and don't bother with. As for the owners, if you have an issue, PM them. They actually get back to you promptly and help work with it. I kinda like that. I don't care about their qualifications as they relate to golf, they seem to know their role here and they execute it well. And no I don't say that just because they sent me a putter in a drawing to show my support for the site, but that was a heck of a nice gesture that was totally not expected.

[DRGJR72]

What does being a PGA member have to do with running a golf related web site? Was the guy that invented Napster a musician??? I mean he created a website that revolved around music?

 

DG

[Furrankee]

I still disagree with a lot of you, but let bygones be bygones.

 

I had a frame of reference I forgot to share, when I made my "site lost its luster" talk.

 

I found other sites:

 

lynnblakegolf.com

 

brianmanzella.com/forum

 

I'm sure many of you heard of them.

 

Not sure about many of you, but one of my goals in life...is to break par...and then try to do it consistently. With all my heart, soul and mind.

 

I'm hoping that's why we're all on these wonderfully managed forums. Not just to kill time. And if you break par consistently, or break 80 consistently and are satisfied, good for you. But you're still probably timing your flip.

[Golfchicago]

Now it makes sense. All you are looking for is free advice for your game. What is laughable is how you hide behind these initial accusations and insults to the owners. You clearly did not answer any of the responses to your unsupported claims. All that proves is that you mislead us from the start. What makes it even more laughable is your following responses.

 

1. I forgot to share my point of reference.

2. I found other sites

3. If anyone on this site is not breaking 80, you are still timing your flip.

 

First of all, by you not directly answering our responses to your intial claims tells me that you have no validity to your points. Second of all, your real reason for the post is out of frustration for not getting enough FREE help for your swing. Thirdly, your responses are ridiculous. You didn't really forget to share your reference. You insulted us by not telling the truth and making up some invalid claims about this website. Then you stated you found other sites. Yeah, I know the other sites well. In fact we have one of Brian's instructors actively posting on this site. Then your final insulting blow. Rather than directly responding to our factual supported statements, you finish off your defense by taking a personal shot at anyone who hasn't broke 80 and said "you are still timing you flip" First of all what credentials do you have to make such a statement? You don't, so don't waste your time making such a ridiculous statement. Second of all, it shows your true colors, when you have to divert so much from your original accusations that you have to insult the members of this site.

Furrankke, I don't know you, but this I know. You are really only interested in helping your golf swing. Then you've got the nerve to fire of unsupported statements about this site. If you are going to open your mouth and bash this site, you better be ready to defend your position. You clearly didn't know that we were going to see through your initial misleading statements. You know, I'd have some respect for you if you would just come out and say, hey I screwed up with my initial comments and I am really just looking for help with my swing. Who are the good instructors that I should talk to on this site. You know what, you don't have the maturity to do that, do you?

[ryanpgm]

As someone who is employed in the golf industry, this site is a valuable asset. The introduction of new clubs, industry trends relating to rounds and merchandiese, and too many other things to name that help us dictate what it is our customers (all of you) truely want. IMO if a golf professional is not a member of this site, there are behind the 8 ball so to speak. Forums such as Golf Style and General Equipment seem to have been the most beneficial to me personally, especially the posts with polls. Basically, I think this site is wonderful, because it is not one-sided. There are thousands of different points of view, and that is what makes it special, because no two people think the same.

[Golfchicago]

As someone who is employed in the golf industry, this site is a valuable asset. The introduction of new clubs, industry trends relating to rounds and merchandiese, and too many other things to name that help us dictate what it is our customers (all of you) truely want. IMO if a golf professional is not a member of this site, there are behind the 8 ball so to speak. Forums such as Golf Style and General Equipment seem to have been the most beneficial to me personally, especially the posts with polls. Basically, I think this site is wonderful, because it is not one-sided. There are thousands of different points of view, and that is what makes it special, because no two people think the same.

Ryan, great insights. We are blessed to have several excellent instructors who are members and active posters at this site. Thanks for your support. It is great having guys like you in the industry here to contribute valuable advice.

[raidernut1234]

The simple fact that this thread is still open is a credit to this site's existence. GX and EASY have done a phenomenal job with limited resources to make this site work. The way they asked for feedback on BST is a perfect example of this being a COMMUNITY based forum.

It has also allowed the true colors of the opener of this thread to be exposed.

 

maybe some of us should watch this video and realize how fortunate we really are

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePXlkqkFH6s...ted&search=

enough said. have a great day

 

SelfEdit: I deleted 2 somewhat sarcastic phrases in the spirit of keeping some perspective about what's really important in life.

[PixlPutterman]

As for the moderators and owners, background is important. What if you found that this site was run by high schoolers?

 

I would say then that they are doing a hell of a job. Go make your own site and stop bashing :russian_roulette: :cheesy:

[DRGJR72]

I still disagree with a lot of you, but let bygones be bygones.

 

I had a frame of reference I forgot to share, when I made my "site lost its luster" talk.

 

I found other sites:

 

lynnblakegolf.com

 

brianmanzella.com/forum

 

I'm sure many of you heard of them.

 

Not sure about many of you, but one of my goals in life...is to break par...and then try to do it consistently. With all my heart, soul and mind.

 

I'm hoping that's why we're all on these wonderfully managed forums. Not just to kill time. And if you break par consistently, or break 80 consistently and are satisfied, good for you. But you're still probably timing your flip.

 

Your reasons and other peoples reasons to be on a site can vary tremendously. I know that I don't go on here for swing tips, I am here for some debates, check out some equipment, and what not.

 

Since I am one of the people that break par, and shoot in the mid to low 70's most of the time, yes I am satisfied with my game. And, since most people I know that shoot under par, don't flip the club, I don't understand the comment. Just because you believe in one method of striking the ball, that method is not then end all, be all of ball striking.

 

I wish you the best in trying to find whatever it is that you are looking for. But as I have come to realize more and more, people are entitled to opinions, and in my opinion that statement was one that has no merit.

 

DG

[BogeyTrain]

Guys let us try to focus on ideas. I know a lot of people that complain all the time even when things are going well. THEY like to stir the pot, THEY have no direction, THEY have no point. It is simple. You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. We can sit here and talk about a problem until we are blue in the face anf get nowhere.

 

Golfwrx is ever growing and ever changing. We are always looking for ideas to make this a better website. Golfwrx has been wildly successful because it is unbiased, fair and interesting. If anyone has any ideas, we welcome your help! This is our site.

 

How about a filter feature or an enhanced search button?

A customizable page where each member can filter out the topics they don't want to read and therefore each member may focus on what they want to read.

 

The downside to this is that you will not have that townhall effect where everyone gathers in a central place to share ideas, instead you may silo members in their own sub-community and never come out to mingle.

[Furrankee]

Now it makes sense. All you are looking for is free advice for your game. What is laughable is how you hide behind these initial accusations and insults to the owners. You clearly did not answer any of the responses to your unsupported claims. All that proves is that you mislead us from the start. What makes it even more laughable is your following responses.

 

1. I forgot to share my point of reference.

2. I found other sites

3. If anyone on this site is not breaking 80, you are still timing your flip.

 

First of all, by you not directly answering our responses to your intial claims tells me that you have no validity to your points. Second of all, your real reason for the post is out of frustration for not getting enough FREE help for your swing. Thirdly, your responses are ridiculous. You didn't really forget to share your reference. You insulted us by not telling the truth and making up some invalid claims about this website. Then you stated you found other sites. Yeah, I know the other sites well. In fact we have one of Brian's instructors actively posting on this site. Then your final insulting blow. Rather than directly responding to our factual supported statements, you finish off your defense by taking a personal shot at anyone who hasn't broke 80 and said "you are still timing you flip" First of all what credentials do you have to make such a statement? You don't, so don't waste your time making such a ridiculous statement. Second of all, it shows your true colors, when you have to divert so much from your original accusations that you have to insult the members of this site.

Furrankke, I don't know you, but this I know. You are really only interested in helping your golf swing. Then you've got the nerve to fire of unsupported statements about this site. If you are going to open your mouth and bash this site, you better be ready to defend your position. You clearly didn't know that we were going to see through your initial misleading statements. You know, I'd have some respect for you if you would just come out and say, hey I screwed up with my initial comments and I am really just looking for help with my swing. Who are the good instructors that I should talk to on this site. You know what, you don't have the maturity to do that, do you?

 

GolfChicago, I'm not hiding. I'm here. I just don't wake up and start logging into golfwrx. Also I did mentioned that I screwed up with my initial comment.

 

Secondly, I never intented to start my original posting as a new thread. A mod created this thread with my post. I don't know what his intentions were, but it did feel like I was put in a "cast thy stone" position.

 

Third, and probably most important, I will use the site in a more suitable manner. As another member had said, I myself click on "new posts" 99% of the time. When I do that, a lot of these common threads that we've all read many times before spring up again.

 

4th, I just want to avoid confrontation from that initial post. To defend myself in this situation where there are misunderstandings is time consuming. I think the real problem is that the tone of the original post wasn't the tone I would've expressed if I had said it in person. It reads terribly, I agree.

 

The last post I had submitted - it was supposed to be heartfelt, non-confrontational, helpful.

 

Hope this makes clear some of my intentions. Remember my initial comment was from the "lurker" thread. A mod just created a new thread out of my post. My post reads insultingly, I agree. Had I said it in person, it'd take on a whole different route.

 

Let's move on.

[Furrankee]

I still disagree with a lot of you, but let bygones be bygones.

 

I had a frame of reference I forgot to share, when I made my "site lost its luster" talk.

 

I found other sites:

 

lynnblakegolf.com

 

brianmanzella.com/forum

 

I'm sure many of you heard of them.

 

Not sure about many of you, but one of my goals in life...is to break par...and then try to do it consistently. With all my heart, soul and mind.

 

I'm hoping that's why we're all on these wonderfully managed forums. Not just to kill time. And if you break par consistently, or break 80 consistently and are satisfied, good for you. But you're still probably timing your flip.

 

Your reasons and other peoples reasons to be on a site can vary tremendously. I know that I don't go on here for swing tips, I am here for some debates, check out some equipment, and what not.

 

Since I am one of the people that break par, and shoot in the mid to low 70's most of the time, yes I am satisfied with my game. And, since most people I know that shoot under par, don't flip the club, I don't understand the comment. Just because you believe in one method of striking the ball, that method is not then end all, be all of ball striking.

 

I wish you the best in trying to find whatever it is that you are looking for. But as I have come to realize more and more, people are entitled to opinions, and in my opinion that statement was one that has no merit.

 

DG

 

 

I think I need more practice matching the intent in my heart with the content in my writing.

 

Anyway, some pros do also time their time, Arron Olberhoser, Geoff Ogilvy, but obviously do very well at it. Doesn't mean it's the right way to ball strike, but it's one way.

 

The misleading aspect of this is...since they've been doing it during their youth and have gotten so good at it, it makes it seems like it's a legitamite ball striking pattern. But it really isn't. And it isn't a pattern you would want to teach to someone that is starting out in golf, or has been floundering for years with this ball striking pattern.

 

But whatever works for you in your golf game!

[Gxgolfer]

Now it makes sense. All you are looking for is free advice for your game. What is laughable is how you hide behind these initial accusations and insults to the owners. You clearly did not answer any of the responses to your unsupported claims. All that proves is that you mislead us from the start. What makes it even more laughable is your following responses.

 

1. I forgot to share my point of reference.

2. I found other sites

3. If anyone on this site is not breaking 80, you are still timing your flip.

 

First of all, by you not directly answering our responses to your intial claims tells me that you have no validity to your points. Second of all, your real reason for the post is out of frustration for not getting enough FREE help for your swing. Thirdly, your responses are ridiculous. You didn't really forget to share your reference. You insulted us by not telling the truth and making up some invalid claims about this website. Then you stated you found other sites. Yeah, I know the other sites well. In fact we have one of Brian's instructors actively posting on this site. Then your final insulting blow. Rather than directly responding to our factual supported statements, you finish off your defense by taking a personal shot at anyone who hasn't broke 80 and said "you are still timing you flip" First of all what credentials do you have to make such a statement? You don't, so don't waste your time making such a ridiculous statement. Second of all, it shows your true colors, when you have to divert so much from your original accusations that you have to insult the members of this site.

Furrankke, I don't know you, but this I know. You are really only interested in helping your golf swing. Then you've got the nerve to fire of unsupported statements about this site. If you are going to open your mouth and bash this site, you better be ready to defend your position. You clearly didn't know that we were going to see through your initial misleading statements. You know, I'd have some respect for you if you would just come out and say, hey I screwed up with my initial comments and I am really just looking for help with my swing. Who are the good instructors that I should talk to on this site. You know what, you don't have the maturity to do that, do you?

 

GolfChicago, I'm not hiding. I'm here. I just don't wake up and start logging into golfwrx. Also I did mentioned that I screwed up with my initial comment.

 

Secondly, I never intented to start my original posting as a new thread. A mod created this thread with my post. I don't know what his intentions were, but it did feel like I was put in a "cast thy stone" position.

 

Third, and probably most important, I will use the site in a more suitable manner. As another member had said, I myself click on "new posts" 99% of the time. When I do that, a lot of these common threads that we've all read many times before spring up again.

 

4th, I just want to avoid confrontation from that initial post. To defend myself in this situation where there are misunderstandings is time consuming. I think the real problem is that the tone of the original post wasn't the tone I would've expressed if I had said it in person. It reads terribly, I agree.

 

The last post I had submitted - it was supposed to be heartfelt, non-confrontational, helpful.

 

Hope this makes clear some of my intentions. Remember my initial comment was from the "lurker" thread. A mod just created a new thread out of my post. My post reads insultingly, I agree. Had I said it in person, it'd take on a whole different route.

 

Let's move on.

 

furrankee,

 

I split the post because it deserved and needed its own thread. You posted it in the middle of the night and it was a cheap shot. If I hadn't of splitten it out, it would have tainted that thread or derailed it. You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone's else who may differ from you. Our swing forum is one of the best out there right now. Why don't you try to post some examples of what Pros do wrong and how you see it should be done. Why don't you see if the "caliber" of those people can match your expectations...

[sriedy]

As a person whom has gotten suspended (for acting out of line i deserved it) I will say that this site is INCREDIBLE. Some people may not care about the new clubs that are coming out, which is ok, but most the people do care. This is a golf website, and ANY golf talk is perfect with me. This sight may not be ran by golf pros, which also is very all right with me. I don't want a pro to review the new Ping i10s. Of course they can hit them they are pros. I want the average Joe on here giving his feedback on the clubs. Odds are I have a lot more in common (swing fundamentals) with the guys on here as opposed to pros. Personally the entire time i was suspended from this site i visited it every day in hopes my suspension was over, and since it has been I have had all more respect for this site.

[Furrankee]

Now it makes sense. All you are looking for is free advice for your game. What is laughable is how you hide behind these initial accusations and insults to the owners. You clearly did not answer any of the responses to your unsupported claims. All that proves is that you mislead us from the start. What makes it even more laughable is your following responses.

 

1. I forgot to share my point of reference.

2. I found other sites

3. If anyone on this site is not breaking 80, you are still timing your flip.

 

First of all, by you not directly answering our responses to your intial claims tells me that you have no validity to your points. Second of all, your real reason for the post is out of frustration for not getting enough FREE help for your swing. Thirdly, your responses are ridiculous. You didn't really forget to share your reference. You insulted us by not telling the truth and making up some invalid claims about this website. Then you stated you found other sites. Yeah, I know the other sites well. In fact we have one of Brian's instructors actively posting on this site. Then your final insulting blow. Rather than directly responding to our factual supported statements, you finish off your defense by taking a personal shot at anyone who hasn't broke 80 and said "you are still timing you flip" First of all what credentials do you have to make such a statement? You don't, so don't waste your time making such a ridiculous statement. Second of all, it shows your true colors, when you have to divert so much from your original accusations that you have to insult the members of this site.

Furrankke, I don't know you, but this I know. You are really only interested in helping your golf swing. Then you've got the nerve to fire of unsupported statements about this site. If you are going to open your mouth and bash this site, you better be ready to defend your position. You clearly didn't know that we were going to see through your initial misleading statements. You know, I'd have some respect for you if you would just come out and say, hey I screwed up with my initial comments and I am really just looking for help with my swing. Who are the good instructors that I should talk to on this site. You know what, you don't have the maturity to do that, do you?

 

GolfChicago, I'm not hiding. I'm here. I just don't wake up and start logging into golfwrx. Also I did mentioned that I screwed up with my initial comment.

 

Secondly, I never intented to start my original posting as a new thread. A mod created this thread with my post. I don't know what his intentions were, but it did feel like I was put in a "cast thy stone" position.

 

Third, and probably most important, I will use the site in a more suitable manner. As another member had said, I myself click on "new posts" 99% of the time. When I do that, a lot of these common threads that we've all read many times before spring up again.

 

4th, I just want to avoid confrontation from that initial post. To defend myself in this situation where there are misunderstandings is time consuming. I think the real problem is that the tone of the original post wasn't the tone I would've expressed if I had said it in person. It reads terribly, I agree.

 

The last post I had submitted - it was supposed to be heartfelt, non-confrontational, helpful.

 

Hope this makes clear some of my intentions. Remember my initial comment was from the "lurker" thread. A mod just created a new thread out of my post. My post reads insultingly, I agree. Had I said it in person, it'd take on a whole different route.

 

Let's move on.

 

furrankee,

 

I split the post because it deserved and needed its own thread. You posted it in the middle of the night and it was a cheap shot. If I hadn't of splitten it out, it would have tainted that thread or derailed it. You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone's else who may differ from you. Our swing forum is one of the best out there right now. Why don't you try to post some examples of what Pros do wrong and how you see it should be done. Why don't you see if the "caliber" of those people can match your expectations...

 

Because it's a lose-lose situation. Stack and Tilters will argue their positions; same goes for the one-planers, leadbetters, TGMs, Harmons, etc. ALso, any amateur's opinion going against a PGA certified pro will also be perceived as less informed. They're already behind the 8ball based on job title. Even two amateurs discussing swing mechanics can have a little "I know more than you" feel.

 

2nd point: About 6 months ago or even less than that, I've asked two instructors on this site about how one can improve their impact and ball striking positions. One basically responded "you may be lifting up at impact; just hit some punches and pitches". The other said "look at my articles". Although general, these were the gist of their responses. They hadn't even diagnosed the problem and they were giving tips. I know they meant well.

 

That is why, every time I post a response to a fellow member who wants swing improvements on this site, I ask them to post their swing via video. But hardly anyone does. I've posted my swing here numerous times. I've gotten many compliments...player's swing...looks nice...I bet you can play...But I'm not satisfied with that.

 

Anyway, may I ask you this gxgolfer.

 

Why did you start the lurker thread.

 

(This post is will all sincerity and no hard feelings. And I'm not trying to qualify the above response with the statement that it's sincere. I just don't want misunderstandings.)

[HeadonaStick]

There are thirteen main fora here. Two are devoted specifically to equipment, one is tour and specialty equipment. Perhaps you need to visit a few sub forums here. That said, if the equipment threads are the most active it is because that is what interests the membership. It is up to you and others who share your interest to generate content. It isn't "our" job to re-think what interests us for your benefit. Sorry.

 

It sounds like "focus" means the same thing over and over again for you... this site has a focus - golf. Because there is such a broad range of topics, I actually read and learn things I wouldn't if I only frequented more "focused" sites. In my opinion, the beauty of the site is its broad range.

 

Finally, I don't care if the site is run by Lesbian Albino Eskimos who visit kindergarten every day. The owners provide the space for discussion - the aren't providing instruction or claiming expertise they don't possess, so I can't imagine why it matters.

 

Participate and contribute what interests you. That will make the site what you want it to be. Complaining won't get it done.

 

P.S. If you don't like the free advice, you could always pay a pro to actually watch you swing and see what they say.