Maltby TS2

[Jimi Thing]

I have been reading through a lot of pages on this thread, so much helpful information and knowledgeable people. I hope I can call on some assistance.

 

I am gathering information to make a decision on a new set of irons as well as a 21d hybrid spot.

 

To give it some context, I’m a 50y old 5 hcp, driver about 100mph with a tempo on the smoother side. Iron play not standing out in a good nor bad way. About average for my hcp range. Currently gaming pxg gen 1 P irons with Steelfiber i95regular shafts. Loving the set up, have embraced the hollow body players iron, believe in it’s merits as well as having embraced the graphite iron shafts.

 

I have been eying the TS1-IM irons as a replacement. Gorgeous heads, about 2 degrees stronger than my current set but I have no problem with that. The marketing machine of the large OEM’s must have done it’s magic on me as I can hardly believe that these irons can be as good / better than the hollow body irons from say PXG, Taylormade, ….. But going by the reviews it seems they are.

 

Anybody any experience with both PXG irons and the TS1-IM and share opinions on how they compare? Looking at what dimensions I could find from PXG (limited info) it seems that the TS1 (3.161)  are about 75% the size in blade length of the PXG gen1 P irons (4.629). That seems a very significant difference, enough to think that they possibly measure these differently. Any input is welcome. Should I be worried about the playability of the TS1-IM irons?

 

For the shafts, I have been working on fitness quite a bit, getting stronger. In my woods I have been starting to use somewhat heavier shafts, nothing crazy but I am stepping away from the lightweight is better for me conviction. The heavier shafts are having a positive effect on tempo and balance throughout the swing. Furthermore I would not mind a tad lower ball flight with the irons. All in all I’m thinking that I might want to go slightly heavier with the graphite shafts. Towards 100-105 grams range. I have tried the steelfiber i110’s previously, and where I absolutely love the i95, I could not dislike the i110’s more. Just way too much for me. So looking for a 100-105 shaft that I think I can handle.

 

Besides irons, I had wanted to purchase a Callaway UW21. But found out the Hyway here in 21d. Reading mostly positive reviews but I am going to give that a shot, play it at 4hybrid length I think since I am playing shorter shaft typically quite a bit better. It allows me to be confident and a bit more aggressive. I noticed that it does help me in that set up to have a slightly stouter shaft. For example I am playing a Tensei white in about an inch shorter 5w and love it. A shaft profile I would never pick otherwise. Any shaft recommendations / other pieces of advice for this stick? High and long is what I am looking for.

 

[mynameisntshawn]

Can’t really comment on shafts and have hit neither club, but you can look up all the specs of both clubs here. They seem like pretty similar clubs, with the main difference being the TS1-IM having a lower center of gravity and a lower MOI. The former generally makes the TS1 more playable, the latter generally makes the TS1 less forgiving. The TS1 sweet spot is also slightly farther out to the toe, so despite having a shorter blade will be very marginally more forgiving when hit to the toe side.

[vandyfan]

Has anyone swapped out the weights on the max milled wedges? I have the max 1.05 (so only two weight ports) and the standard weights are 2g. So if swapped both out (swapped the 2gs out for 4g weights) if would only increase head weight by 4g, total. Would that even be noticeable? I feel like the wedge is a little "light" so I want a little more heft but not sure I will get there with the weights, may also need lead tape as well?

[mynameisntshawn]

On 9/25/2023 at 3:10 PM, vandyfan said:

Has anyone swapped out the weights on the max milled wedges? I have the max 1.05 (so only two weight ports) and the standard weights are 2g. So if swapped both out (swapped the 2gs out for 4g weights) if would only increase head weight by 4g, total. Would that even be noticeable? I feel like the wedge is a little "light" so I want a little more heft but not sure I will get there with the weights, may also need lead tape as well?

Adding 4g to the head moves you up 2 SW. I'd suggest trying it out with lead tape to see if that makes a difference to you before going to the trouble of buying the weights.

Unrelated, but I have a realization from last night I figured I'd share with this crew: The BBGM (bottom-bore to ground measurement) for universal-hosel clubs that take both taper- and parallel-tip iron shafts will have different BBGM measurements depending on the type of shaft being used. I pulled some .355 shafts from my DBM irons and cut my new .370 shafts to the same length, but when I installed the new shafts and ferrules I noticed that the amount of shaft visible under the ferrule was almost .5" shorter on the new shafts. Logically it makes total sense that the wider-tipped shafts wouldn't go as far down into the head, but I hadn't even thought of that possibility as I just automatically cut the shafts to the same length as the previous set. The more you know!

Upon further review I had just installed them wrong and hadn't cleaned out the hosel thoroughly enough. When I did so, the installed depth ended up being basically the same as the taper tips.

Edited October 3, 2023 by mynameisntshawn
Made an incorrect statement

[gdb99]

On 9/23/2023 at 3:19 PM, Jimi Thing said:

I have been reading through a lot of pages on this thread, so much helpful information and knowledgeable people. I hope I can call on some assistance.

 

I am gathering information to make a decision on a new set of irons as well as a 21d hybrid spot.

 

To give it some context, I’m a 50y old 5 hcp, driver about 100mph with a tempo on the smoother side. Iron play not standing out in a good nor bad way. About average for my hcp range. Currently gaming pxg gen 1 P irons with Steelfiber i95regular shafts. Loving the set up, have embraced the hollow body players iron, believe in it’s merits as well as having embraced the graphite iron shafts.

 

I have been eying the TS1-IM irons as a replacement. Gorgeous heads, about 2 degrees stronger than my current set but I have no problem with that. The marketing machine of the large OEM’s must have done it’s magic on me as I can hardly believe that these irons can be as good / better than the hollow body irons from say PXG, Taylormade, ….. But going by the reviews it seems they are.

 

Anybody any experience with both PXG irons and the TS1-IM and share opinions on how they compare? Looking at what dimensions I could find from PXG (limited info) it seems that the TS1 (3.161)  are about 75% the size in blade length of the PXG gen1 P irons (4.629). That seems a very significant difference, enough to think that they possibly measure these differently. Any input is welcome. Should I be worried about the playability of the TS1-IM irons?

 

For the shafts, I have been working on fitness quite a bit, getting stronger. In my woods I have been starting to use somewhat heavier shafts, nothing crazy but I am stepping away from the lightweight is better for me conviction. The heavier shafts are having a positive effect on tempo and balance throughout the swing. Furthermore I would not mind a tad lower ball flight with the irons. All in all I’m thinking that I might want to go slightly heavier with the graphite shafts. Towards 100-105 grams range. I have tried the steelfiber i110’s previously, and where I absolutely love the i95, I could not dislike the i110’s more. Just way too much for me. So looking for a 100-105 shaft that I think I can handle.

 

Besides irons, I had wanted to purchase a Callaway UW21. But found out the Hyway here in 21d. Reading mostly positive reviews but I am going to give that a shot, play it at 4hybrid length I think since I am playing shorter shaft typically quite a bit better. It allows me to be confident and a bit more aggressive. I noticed that it does help me in that set up to have a slightly stouter shaft. For example I am playing a Tensei white in about an inch shorter 5w and love it. A shaft profile I would never pick otherwise. Any shaft recommendations / other pieces of advice for this stick? High and long is what I am looking for.

 

I haven’t hit either head, but Maltby irons tend to be longer heel to toe than most. And going by the comments in here, I think the TS1-IM irons are no different. 
As far as the Steelfiber, I always thought the i95’s felt stiffer than the i110’s, both in regular flex. They do sell the SteelFiber FC. It’s more of a flighted set of shafts, and not as boardy as the standard SteelFiber line. Although they come in 70, 80, 90 and 115gr. models.

Lots of people like the Mitsubishi MMT shafts, but they are also pricey. I think any premium graphite in that weight class will be pricey. 
I am usually fitted into a 100-105 grams steel shaft, and have no problem going to a 75-85 gr. graphite shaft. I guess weight doesn’t bother me as much.

[gdb99]

1 hour ago, vandyfan said:

Has anyone swapped out the weights on the max milled wedges? I have the max 1.05 (so only two weight ports) and the standard weights are 2g. So if swapped both out (swapped the 2gs out for 4g weights) if would only increase head weight by 4g, total. Would that even be noticeable? I feel like the wedge is a little "light" so I want a little more heft but not sure I will get there with the weights, may also need lead tape as well?

I would use lead tape on the head until it felt right, switching between different clubs every few swings so you don’t get in a rhythm. 
 

When it feels good, weigh how much tape you had to use, and buy the weights you need.

 

Edit* I see they only have 4 gram screws like you posted. That’s not a lot of weight… I think lead tape will be needed if it feels that light. Or a little added shaft length?

Edited September 25, 2023 by gdb99

[Double4me]

Well things have a way of chaning a bit ...

I now have some used TS3 heads coming my way. I was looking at graphite shafts and there are some NV Shafts on sales. Has anyone used both those NV  and MPF shafts to give a feel perspective on them. I am going for more mid launch since I don't have trouble getting the ball in the air and the COG of the TS3 heads. Not much different in price so I was curious if anyone has used them? 

 

And there is possibly 2 other options that caought my eye as well. Rapport Core Blue and Tensei AV Silver Hybrid/Iron. If anyone has thoughts on those as well I would appreciate the feedback. That's about as expensive as I want to go and specs wise all of them should fit the bill for me ... I think. 

[bekgolf]

Another way to do this is half-splitting.

 

Add 10g of lead tape.  If it's too heavy remove 5g, too light feeling add, etc.  I have a hard time with feeling small adjustments, going big to start gives me more of a feel than adding 1g or so at a time over the course of multiple swings.  Fine tune with small adjustments at the end but going big at first gives me a better idea and more confidence of which way to go.

 

Your mileage may vary.

[Cwebb]

On 9/23/2023 at 12:19 PM, Jimi Thing said:

I have been reading through a lot of pages on this thread, so much helpful information and knowledgeable people. I hope I can call on some assistance.

 

I am gathering information to make a decision on a new set of irons as well as a 21d hybrid spot.

 

To give it some context, I’m a 50y old 5 hcp, driver about 100mph with a tempo on the smoother side. Iron play not standing out in a good nor bad way. About average for my hcp range. Currently gaming pxg gen 1 P irons with Steelfiber i95regular shafts. Loving the set up, have embraced the hollow body players iron, believe in it’s merits as well as having embraced the graphite iron shafts.

 

I have been eying the TS1-IM irons as a replacement. Gorgeous heads, about 2 degrees stronger than my current set but I have no problem with that. The marketing machine of the large OEM’s must have done it’s magic on me as I can hardly believe that these irons can be as good / better than the hollow body irons from say PXG, Taylormade, ….. But going by the reviews it seems they are.

 

Anybody any experience with both PXG irons and the TS1-IM and share opinions on how they compare? Looking at what dimensions I could find from PXG (limited info) it seems that the TS1 (3.161)  are about 75% the size in blade length of the PXG gen1 P irons (4.629). That seems a very significant difference, enough to think that they possibly measure these differently. Any input is welcome. Should I be worried about the playability of the TS1-IM irons?

 

 

 

They must be measuring the length different, since that is way longer than even the longest current Maltby iron design, which is the M890 at 3.440".  I have no idea where PXG is coming up with that extra inch and change, as that would be a ridiculously long iron head.

 

No real concern with the playability of the TS1-IM, regarding it's size.  It's not "small" and it's not hard to hit, with plenty of usable area on the face for decent contact. 

 

The main question is usually would something with a lower AVCOG, such as that in the Maltby TS3 be of benefit to you

[ApostateDrive]

Well, had a sort of interesting experience this evening. Relevant background info:

 

1) My first ever GW/Maltby order was for a standard KE4 Max iron Pak several months ago. The Pak is supposed to come with the Lamkin Crossline grip, but the clubs showed up with Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid grips. No harm, no foul. Free upgrade to nicer grips and I ended up falling in love with the slightly larger grip. 

 

2) Over the course of the next few weeks and a couple separate orders, I end up ordering a KE4 TC 5 wood, 21° HyWay, and two TSW wedges to go in the bag with the Max irons. I wrote in the order notes box that the iron Pak I ordered previously had come with the ST+2 Hybrid grips and I would appreciate if these clubs could get those grips as well, so the set matches. I also offered to cover the difference in cost, but I never heard back from them. The clubs showed up with the grips, so I was a happy camper. 

 

So, fast forward to late last week when I place an order for a TS3 Pak. Again, I mention in the order notes that these irons are going into a bag with other clubs they have built me with the ST+2 grip and could they please use the same grip on this Pak. I then get an email today and it's a notification from Golfworks that I need to confirm the details of the custom build and I also need to pay the $45 of difference in grip cost. No problem, especially since, up to this point, they had put those grips on when requested. It seems only fair that I pay for the upgrade at some point. 

 

But what has me chuckling is that one of my recent Golfworks orders included a set of STi2 irons, two TSW wedges, and an M890 hybrid for my boss. All of which were ordered as standard Paks; so they should come with a Crossline grip, right? Interestingly, they all showed up with ST+2 Hybrid grips as well. I didn't ask for that upgrade, so I assumed the ST+2 is now the standard grip if you order a standard Pak. Apparently not though. So I'm kind of chuckling to myself, wondering if I hadn't said anything, would the TS3 Pak have shown up with the ST+2 grips anyway, without me having to pay for them?

Edited September 26, 2023 by ApostateDrive

[Jimi Thing]

5 hours ago, Cwebb said:

 

They must be measuring the length different, since that is way longer than even the longest current Maltby iron design, which is the M890 at 3.440".  I have no idea where PXG is coming up with that extra inch and change, as that would be a ridiculously long iron head.

 

No real concern with the playability of the TS1-IM, regarding it's size.  It's not "small" and it's not hard to hit, with plenty of usable area on the face for decent contact. 

 

The main question is usually would something with a lower AVCOG, such as that in the Maltby TS3 be of benefit to you

 

I currently don't have real issues with elevating the ball. Contact point on the blade, speed and the way I deliver the club provides proper elevation and stopping power even with the stronger lofted PXG's. My interest for a heavier shaft is mainly initiated by my thought that it possibly will lower the launch. 

 

So if my assumption is correct that the lower AVCOGof the TS3 will result in a higher launch, it is not what I am currently in search of. So with that I think the TS1 might be a possibly better fit. 

And that brings me to me asking all these questions, I live in Portugal, demo'ing this is nearly impossible. VAT and import duties are pretty steep as well as shipping. So I want to make sure I make the right decisions. Thanks for your insights!

[Jimi Thing]

9 hours ago, gdb99 said:

I haven’t hit either head, but Maltby irons tend to be longer heel to toe than most. And going by the comments in here, I think the TS1-IM irons are no different. 
As far as the Steelfiber, I always thought the i95’s felt stiffer than the i110’s, both in regular flex. They do sell the SteelFiber FC. It’s more of a flighted set of shafts, and not as boardy as the standard SteelFiber line. Although they come in 70, 80, 90 and 115gr. models.

Lots of people like the Mitsubishi MMT shafts, but they are also pricey. I think any premium graphite in that weight class will be pricey. 
I am usually fitted into a 100-105 grams steel shaft, and have no problem going to a 75-85 gr. graphite shaft. I guess weight doesn’t bother me as much.

 

Have not tried any of the Steelfiber FC's, something I should try I think. My thought for bumping up weight on the shafts is that I think it will lower launch slightly and have a positive effect on tempo, even it out a bit especially in transition.

 

The situation in portugal when it comes to demo'ing clubs is not great. Fitting is not really a thing it is more try this, try that, what do you like best. And the shaft offerings are pretty limited. That makes it tough. Thanks for your insights.  

[deepred]

10 hours ago, Double4me said:

Well things have a way of chaning a bit ...

I now have some used TS3 heads coming my way. I was looking at graphite shafts and there are some NV Shafts on sales. Has anyone used both those NV  and MPF shafts to give a feel perspective on them. I am going for more mid launch since I don't have trouble getting the ball in the air and the COG of the TS3 heads. Not much different in price so I was curious if anyone has used them? 

 

And there is possibly 2 other options that caought my eye as well. Rapport Core Blue and Tensei AV Silver Hybrid/Iron. If anyone has thoughts on those as well I would appreciate the feedback. That's about as expensive as I want to go and specs wise all of them should fit the bill for me ... I think. 

I find the two are very similar with the Maltby shaft a bit stiffer but not by much.

[deepred]

Not the first driver head I’ve had break, STw2

[ode1]

22 minutes ago, deepred said:

Not the first driver head I’ve had break, STw2

Ugh.  I am currently hitting the STw2 well and have read and seen the pics of a few others failing in the same manner....🤞 on mine!

[ApostateDrive]

Sorry to see this @deepred Maltby drivers are the only club I haven't tried. I know it's 100% my own hangup, but I like looking down at a carbon crown in my drivers. 

[deepred]

1 hour ago, ode said:

Ugh.  I am currently hitting the STw2 well and have read and seen the pics of a few others failing in the same manner....🤞 on mine!

I’ve seen at least one other that cracked in the same way. My swing speed is around 110. I’ve broken Titleist, Hagen, Armour, and Callaway. Designers will say that todays heads are not going to last forever like the old stainless steel heads did. 

[iamlowsound]

34 minutes ago, deepred said:

I’ve seen at least one other that cracked in the same way. My swing speed is around 110. I’ve broken Titleist, Hagen, Armour, and Callaway. Designers will say that todays heads are not going to last forever like the old stainless steel heads did. 

My swing speed is around that or a bit higher and I haven't broken a driver yet. Currently using a Callaway Mavrk. However, I've broken two three woods from hitting hosel rockets. 
 

Constantly hitting the centre or near centre will make new drivers last a long time. Hitting the heel, hosel, top, and toe will weaken them; especially with a high swing speed. They just aren't designed to be hit at those locations. If they were, you wouldn't see the performance out of the centre like you do now. 

[iamlowsound]

@Popeye64 does Golf Works sell iron fitting heads? I want to get some TS4 irons but I also want to get fit into shafts. I figure if I get a fitting head I can take it somewhere to get fit into a shaft. 

[Popeye64]

2 hours ago, iamlowsound said:

@Popeye64 does Golf Works sell iron fitting heads? I want to get some TS4 irons but I also want to get fit into shafts. I figure if I get a fitting head I can take it somewhere to get fit into a shaft. 

They do not sell fitting head like you would find at say Club Champion or in an OEM fitting cart. 

All-Fit sells adapters that will allow you to get the head weight to match a production head weight. The hosel must be drilled in order to epoxy in the adapter. Matching adapters are then added to your shafts. 

For a while I was sending out demo clubs that had various Xcaliber shafts but its a lot of effort. 

So long story short any fitting head will need to be made on your own. 

[Popeye64]

So far the only head I have recently had someone break was an STI2. But he was hitting the neck and crown.. severely!! No head would have survived what this guy dished out. 

As destroyed as it was Golfworks replaced it right away. 

[gdb99]

2 hours ago, iamlowsound said:

@Popeye64 does Golf Works sell iron fitting heads? I want to get some TS4 irons but I also want to get fit into shafts. I figure if I get a fitting head I can take it somewhere to get fit into a shaft. 

I went to a couple demo days in the past, or had paid fittings to find a shaft that works for me. The most important thing with a shaft is weight.

Maybe check with a course you play. They might have a couple fitting bags. I’ve fitted myself in the past just taking out a head and a few shafts out their fitting bag, and hitting the range. 

[sm_watts]

On 9/23/2023 at 1:19 PM, Jimi Thing said:

Anybody any experience with both PXG irons and the TS1-IM and share opinions on how they compare? Looking at what dimensions I could find from PXG (limited info) it seems that the TS1 (3.161)  are about 75% the size in blade length of the PXG gen1 P irons (4.629). That seems a very significant difference, enough to think that they possibly measure these differently. Any input is welcome. Should I be worried about the playability of the TS1-IM irons?

 

For the shafts, I have been working on fitness quite a bit, getting stronger. In my woods I have been starting to use somewhat heavier shafts, nothing crazy but I am stepping away from the lightweight is better for me conviction. The heavier shafts are having a positive effect on tempo and balance throughout the swing. Furthermore I would not mind a tad lower ball flight with the irons. All in all I’m thinking that I might want to go slightly heavier with the graphite shafts. Towards 100-105 grams range. I have tried the steelfiber i110’s previously, and where I absolutely love the i95, I could not dislike the i110’s more. Just way too much for me. So looking for a 100-105 shaft that I think I can handle.

  

I'm totally agreeing with other responses that PXG must measure differently than Maltby.  I play the TS3 and there's NO WAY anyone could stomach hitting an iron that's a full inch longer blade than.

 

As for shafts, send a PM to @Popeye64 to ask about the Xcaliber Rapid Taper graphite shafts (https://xcalibershafts.com/collections/new-rapid-tapers).  I am playing a combo of 95 gram in the 6/7/8, 105 gram in the 9/PW, and 115 gram in the gap wedge.  I would say these are in between a stout Steelfiber and lively Recoil, probably a little closer to the Recoil end in terms of feel, but definitely more solid as you head to the shorter clubs (9/PW).  I used to be a Recoil 95 fanboy, but I would take the RT's over them in a heartbeat.

[iamlowsound]

52 minutes ago, Popeye64 said:

They do not sell fitting head like you would find at say Club Champion or in an OEM fitting cart. 

All-Fit sells adapters that will allow you to get the head weight to match a production head weight. The hosel must be drilled in order to epoxy in the adapter. Matching adapters are then added to your shafts. 

For a while I was sending out demo clubs that had various Xcaliber shafts but its a lot of effort. 

So long story short any fitting head will need to be made on your own. 

Does the All-Fit adaptor fit regular adaptors for OEM shafts? I don't mind doing some work to get a proper fit and I have a drill press so no issue drilling. 

[iamlowsound]

30 minutes ago, gdb99 said:

I went to a couple demo days in the past, or had paid fittings to find a shaft that works for me. The most important thing with a shaft is weight.

Maybe check with a course you play. They might have a couple fitting bags. I’ve fitted myself in the past just taking out a head and a few shafts out their fitting bag, and hitting the range. 

My course has a few fitting bags and a Trackman. The Pro there would fit me for a shaft but I want to try the shaft and head combination. They only sell Cobra at my course. 

 

The Pro told me that shaft weight should generally match 7i ball speed, which would put me into 130 gram shafts. The Score LT is 117g uncut and launches too high for me now. I want to bring the ball flight down but I'm also worried that going to a 130g shaft like an x100 is not going to work. Basically, I want to be more sure of my shaft choice before I buy something. 

[vandyfan]

24 minutes ago, iamlowsound said:

The Pro told me that shaft weight should generally match 7i ball speed

 

Not disagreeing with the pro but that is the first time I have ever heard that comp. I have a 35* 7 iron so that may throw that off a tad. 

[Cwebb]

51 minutes ago, iamlowsound said:

My course has a few fitting bags and a Trackman. The Pro there would fit me for a shaft but I want to try the shaft and head combination. They only sell Cobra at my course. 

 

The Pro told me that shaft weight should generally match 7i ball speed, which would put me into 130 gram shafts. The Score LT is 117g uncut and launches too high for me now. I want to bring the ball flight down but I'm also worried that going to a 130g shaft like an x100 is not going to work. Basically, I want to be more sure of my shaft choice before I buy something. 

 

It could also be a bend profile issue.  If you want try something that is closer in weight, but has a stiffer profile through the tip, which generally will promote a flatter flight, then a DG 120 X100 is an option.  Also 'standard' Project X 5.5 or 6.0

[iamlowsound]

2 hours ago, vandyfan said:

 

Not disagreeing with the pro but that is the first time I have ever heard that comp. I have a 35* 7 iron so that may throw that off a tad. 

More as a starting point, especially once you get into higher swing speeds. I sit around 93-95 mph clubhead on my 7i while swinging easy. 35° is very much a traditional loft, the original TS1 I play is at 32° and I hit the ball very high, like 125+ feet. The ball doesn't balloon on me, it just goes really high. 

[iamlowsound]

2 hours ago, Cwebb said:

 

It could also be a bend profile issue.  If you want try something that is closer in weight, but has a stiffer profile through the tip, which generally will promote a flatter flight, then a DG 120 X100 is an option.  Also 'standard' Project X 5.5 or 6.0

Yeah, the Score LT is a high launching shaft. I'm a high ball hitter, my 7i peaks over 125 feet. Which is why I want to get fitted into some shafts; I need a lower, more penetrating ball flight. 

 

The Pro at my course plays Project X 7.0, those are like swinging a piece of rebar. Has them in the Ricky Cobra Blades and somehow hits them extremely well. It's probably one of the least forgiving set ups on the market and he has a +3 handicap. 

[Cwebb]

30 minutes ago, iamlowsound said:

Yeah, the Score LT is a high launching shaft. I'm a high ball hitter, my 7i peaks over 125 feet. Which is why I want to get fitted into some shafts; I need a lower, more penetrating ball flight. 

 

The Pro at my course plays Project X 7.0, those are like swinging a piece of rebar. Has them in the Ricky Cobra Blades and somehow hits them extremely well. It's probably one of the least forgiving set ups on the market and he has a +3 handicap. 

 

Yeah, I consider the PX 6.0 a stiff tip 'X' flex when looking at the bend profile.  I call the 5.5 an S+ and the 5.0 an 'S'