Maltby TS2

[gdb99]

2 minutes ago, ApostateDrive said:

 

I'm probably going to have to. I ordered a swingweight scale so I can measure before/after as well as when I add weight. Driver currently plays 45.5", so I'm going to lose like 8-10 points by shortening the shaft. 

So now the head is around 210 grams. If you like a heavier shaft, the FW shaft is a viable alternative.

 

Some who play shorter drivers have had good luck starting with a heavier shaft. 

[ApostateDrive]

5 minutes ago, gdb99 said:

So now the head is around 210 grams. If you like a heavier shaft, the FW shaft is a viable alternative.

 

Some who play shorter drivers have had good luck starting with a heavier shaft. 

 

I will pull the head tomorrow to get a weight on it. I currently can put an extra 25 grams in the head with the weights, but that might be too much since I believe it's around 1.8g per point for head weight. 

[NRJyzr]

8 hours ago, gdb99 said:

Some who play shorter drivers have had good luck starting with a heavier shaft. 

 

I have trouble hitting anything lighter than an NV75 (78g raw), regardless of length.

 

I've managed to score a few NV85's that will be pressed into service soon...

 

[AZstu324]

Ok here's a random question..

 

My dad's been playing the KE4 MAX set that I built him last year. They've been a great set paired with the Maltby pro shafts. He's 73 and roughly 20 hdcp so I feel like this set is very suiting for his abilities. He's actually a fairly consistent ball striker though and can hang with me from the longer tees. It's his mental game that really holds him back. He doesn't have much sense for course management and can get a little hot tempered under pressure and then unravel pretty quickly. Funny how the tables have turned from when I was a tempered teen and he used to tell me to cool it. 

 

Well yesterday we played and he had accidentally left his 8 iron home. I let him use my TS4 7i. He flushed a beautiful shot that ended up on the green and he was over the moon. It was a shot shape and ball flight that he hadn't been used to with his irons. Throughout the round he kept grabbing different clubs from my set and his intrigue continued to grow. Then he proceeded to say.. "so how soon can you build me a set of these?". 

 

Well as much as I wanted to tell him that these clubs might not be for him.. I continued to watch him have some fantastic success with my clubs and just enjoying them more than his MAX's. I'm also having a hard time getting over making him a set of TS4's when the MAX is still such a great set that is nearly new. 

 

After the round I then showed him the TS3's as an option and thought maybe those would be the better choice being more forgiving than my clubs, but while still being a step in that direction.

 

I guess what I'm asking is if anybody has tried all 3 to compare? Would I be better going TS3 instead? Or should I appease the old man and build him some TS4's? OR.. are the MAX still as good as he needs? I also thought about a combo set but he really hit the 5i well from my set and didn't have any intimidation. Another factor is that my shafts are KBS S taper lite 110's (S flex). So roughly 35g heavier per club. Maybe he just needs heavier shafts to help feel the club? I was thinking some S-Taper lite 105's since he liked mine so much. I just don't want him getting burnt out before the rounds over. 

 

Sorry if that was long winded. I'm just kind of at a loss with what to do

 

[ApostateDrive]

50 minutes ago, AZstu324 said:

Ok here's a random question..

 

My dad's been playing the KE4 MAX set that I built him last year. They've been a great set paired with the Maltby pro shafts. He's 73 and roughly 20 hdcp so I feel like this set is very suiting for his abilities. He's actually a fairly consistent ball striker though and can hang with me from the longer tees. It's his mental game that really holds him back. He doesn't have much sense for course management and can get a little hot tempered under pressure and then unravel pretty quickly. Funny how the tables have turned from when I was a tempered teen and he used to tell me to cool it. 

 

Well yesterday we played and he had accidentally left his 8 iron home. I let him use my TS4 7i. He flushed a beautiful shot that ended up on the green and he was over the moon. It was a shot shape and ball flight that he hadn't been used to with his irons. Throughout the round he kept grabbing different clubs from my set and his intrigue continued to grow. Then he proceeded to say.. "so how soon can you build me a set of these?". 

 

Well as much as I wanted to tell him that these clubs might not be for him.. I continued to watch him have some fantastic success with my clubs and just enjoying them more than his MAX's. I'm also having a hard time getting over making him a set of TS4's when the MAX is still such a great set that is nearly new. 

 

After the round I then showed him the TS3's as an option and thought maybe those would be the better choice being more forgiving than my clubs, but while still being a step in that direction.

 

I guess what I'm asking is if anybody has tried all 3 to compare? Would I be better going TS3 instead? Or should I appease the old man and build him some TS4's? OR.. are the MAX still as good as he needs? I also thought about a combo set but he really hit the 5i well from my set and didn't have any intimidation. Another factor is that my shafts are KBS S taper lite 110's (S flex). So roughly 35g heavier per club. Maybe he just needs heavier shafts to help feel the club? I was thinking some S-Taper lite 105's since he liked mine so much. I just don't want him getting burnt out before the rounds over. 

 

Sorry if that was long winded. I'm just kind of at a loss with what to do

 

 

I would try the heavier shaft first, for sure. 

 

Should that not work out, the TS3 might be a fantastic option. I am around the same handicap as your dad, if not a bit higher. Irons are the strength of my game, granted, but I'm in no way a fantastic ball striker. A good day at the range means I find the center of the face 90% of the time, but I will always have toe misses that are half on the grooves/half off on any given day. I have found the TS3 to not really be all that punishing compared to the KE4 Max. Sure, the KE4 Max are industry leading in forgiveness off the toe and yes, I do lose yards on a toe miss with the TS3 compared to the Max. But it's honestly not to where I feel like I need to switch back to the Max. The TS3 positives outweigh the negatives for me. 

Caveat, I'm playing the TS3 with the DG S300 shaft which is a heavy 130g shaft and I had the KE4 Max in the Score LT shaft. I'm planning on reshafting the TS3 7 iron with a Score LT shaft to see how a lighter shaft works out cause I'm not loading the S300 shafts enough.

Edited September 19, 2023 by ApostateDrive

[mynameisntshawn]

Similarly on the "clubs for dad" train, my dad currently games the Callaway Edge set from Costco. He's pretty happy with it overall (using a different driver and putter) but has a habit of losing clubs and is currently without the Gap and Pitching wedges from that set. I estimate him to be about a 24 handicap, good shape, current/former weightlifter, etc..

 

My instinct was to build him KE4 Max replacements for those, since the lofts and lies are basically perfect replacements. However, I'm curious if this group would have any recommendations of a better head to try in this instance. The looks of the club won't really be important to him, but he'll like that I built it for him.

[ApostateDrive]

9 minutes ago, mynameisntshawn said:

Similarly on the "clubs for dad" train, my dad currently games the Callaway Edge set from Costco. He's pretty happy with it overall (using a different driver and putter) but has a habit of losing clubs and is currently without the Gap and Pitching wedges from that set. I estimate him to be about a 24 handicap, good shape, current/former weightlifter, etc..

 

My instinct was to build him KE4 Max replacements for those, since the lofts and lies are basically perfect replacements. However, I'm curious if this group would have any recommendations of a better head to try in this instance. The looks of the club won't really be important to him, but he'll like that I built it for him.

 

I played the Callaway Edge irons before I got the KE4 Max irons. In my experience, the KE4 Max are far more "point and shoot", on another tier in forgiveness, and feel better off the face, whether flushed or slightly mishit. I don't think you can possibly go wrong and, if I recall correctly, the lofts are within a degree of each other across the two sets.

Edited September 19, 2023 by ApostateDrive

[KCEE]

I was finally able to try out the TS3 6i/Modus 115 against my current P770/DG 105 and also my previous Apex Pro Forged 2016/Recoil 110.  The TS3 is definitely more forgiving than the rest, but overall performed similarly to the P770.  No launch monitor data, just range time.  The Apex Pro is a great head, but it doesn't forgive a toe hit quite as well.  That said I realized I was striking the Apex Pro more consistently and later realized it is a good 10g heavier than the other 2 clubs.  I was fitted by the same fitter for both the Apex Pro and P770 5 years apart and the clubs are the same except for a heavier backweight in the Apex Pro.  That seems to make a noticeable difference and I'm going to try that in the TS3.  Also half the range time was off mats and I do miss the Recoil 110 shock dampening compared to the DG105 and Modus115.

 

I snagged TS1 and TS1-IM 6i heads as well just because.  I don't want to introduce too many variables, but I do want to try the Rapid Taper 105 vs the Recoil 110 and see how the hollow heads fare against the cavity back.  I may even try a TS4, but I did play some MB/CB combo sets years back and came to the conclusion I need more forgiveness.

[mynameisntshawn]

28 minutes ago, ApostateDrive said:

 

I played the Callaway Edge irons before I got the KE4 Max irons. In my experience, the KE4 Max are far more "point and shoot", on another tier in forgiveness, and feel better off the face, whether flushed or slightly mishit. I don't think you can possibly go wrong and, if I recall correctly, the lofts are within a degree of each other across the two sets.

That's great! Knowing him eventually he'll have lost all of the Edge clubs and I'll have slowly transitioned him into an all-Maltby set.

[Cwebb]

1 hour ago, AZstu324 said:

Ok here's a random question..

 

My dad's been playing the KE4 MAX set that I built him last year. They've been a great set paired with the Maltby pro shafts. He's 73 and roughly 20 hdcp so I feel like this set is very suiting for his abilities. He's actually a fairly consistent ball striker though and can hang with me from the longer tees. It's his mental game that really holds him back. He doesn't have much sense for course management and can get a little hot tempered under pressure and then unravel pretty quickly. Funny how the tables have turned from when I was a tempered teen and he used to tell me to cool it. 

 

Well yesterday we played and he had accidentally left his 8 iron home. I let him use my TS4 7i. He flushed a beautiful shot that ended up on the green and he was over the moon. It was a shot shape and ball flight that he hadn't been used to with his irons. Throughout the round he kept grabbing different clubs from my set and his intrigue continued to grow. Then he proceeded to say.. "so how soon can you build me a set of these?". 

 

Well as much as I wanted to tell him that these clubs might not be for him.. I continued to watch him have some fantastic success with my clubs and just enjoying them more than his MAX's. I'm also having a hard time getting over making him a set of TS4's when the MAX is still such a great set that is nearly new. 

 

After the round I then showed him the TS3's as an option and thought maybe those would be the better choice being more forgiving than my clubs, but while still being a step in that direction.

 

I guess what I'm asking is if anybody has tried all 3 to compare? Would I be better going TS3 instead? Or should I appease the old man and build him some TS4's? OR.. are the MAX still as good as he needs? I also thought about a combo set but he really hit the 5i well from my set and didn't have any intimidation. Another factor is that my shafts are KBS S taper lite 110's (S flex). So roughly 35g heavier per club. Maybe he just needs heavier shafts to help feel the club? I was thinking some S-Taper lite 105's since he liked mine so much. I just don't want him getting burnt out before the rounds over. 

 

Sorry if that was long winded. I'm just kind of at a loss with what to do

 

 

One of the things we have to be careful with, is assuming that a head design that is theoretically more forgiving or easier to hit, will be the better choice for every "average" player.  

 

The TS4 is not a hard head to hit in general, so if someone tries them, hits them well with improved results and has a better feeling about them, I wouldn't hesitate to explore further.  Remember that the Golfworks and Maltby do not release any iron designs that are "hard to hit"

[ahenderX]

I have a friend who is looking at Maltby irons. He’s a very good golfer and currently plays Ben Hogan Apex irons, which are really, really old. A couple of his playing partners have been on him to get some type of game improvement iron. I got him to look at Maltby. Golfworks is recommending the TS3 because they are most like his Apex. I’m assuming this is based on similar lofts. Lets assume all of Maltby’s irons were the same lofts and all had the same shaft. Is there any reason to assume one model would be longer off the tee than any of the others? My friend has a really flat swing and his typical shot is to hit it low and let the ball run up on the green. He received a 5-iron test club (steel regular flex) and played with it yesterday. He liked it but I can’t say it was a game changer as far as increased distance on his shots. His swing speed with an iron is probably mid sixties. He’s 74 years young. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[Cwebb]

7 minutes ago, ahenderX said:

I have a friend who is looking at Maltby irons. He’s a very good golfer and currently plays Ben Hogan Apex irons, which are really, really old. A couple of his playing partners have been on him to get some type of game improvement iron. I got him to look at Maltby. Golfworks is recommending the TS3 because they are most like his Apex. I’m assuming this is based on similar lofts. Lets assume all of Maltby’s irons were the same lofts and all had the same shaft. Is there any reason to assume one model would be longer off the tee than any of the others? My friend has a really flat swing and his typical shot is to hit it low and let the ball run up on the green. He received a 5-iron test club (steel regular flex) and played with it yesterday. He liked it but I can’t say it was a game changer as far as increased distance on his shots. His swing speed with an iron is probably mid sixties. He’s 74 years young. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

Sounds like the TS3 would be a great choice, because it has a very low Actual Vertical COG (sweet-spot).  This makes them easier to hit in the vertical aspect of impact and will also help him get the ball up a bit, if comparing to the same loft.  Make sure you get the actual lofts right for his set makeup and club gapping, because the TS3 most likely have lower lofts than his older irons.

 

He may also benefit from a hybrid to replace a 5 iron

[ahenderX]

1 minute ago, Cwebb said:

 

Sounds like the TS3 would be a great choice, because it has a very low Actual Vertical COG (sweet-spot).  This makes them easier to hit in the vertical aspect of impact and will also help him get the ball up a bit, if comparing to the same loft.  Make sure you get the actual lofts right for his set makeup and club gapping, because the TS3 most likely have lower lofts than his older irons.

 

He may also benefit from a hybrid to replace a 5 iron

Thank you. Just found one spec sheet on the Apex irons and it does look like there is a 48* vs 44* difference for the PW. He does need a hybrid or wood to replace his 5-iron.

[AZstu324]

3 hours ago, ApostateDrive said:

 

I played the Callaway Edge irons before I got the KE4 Max irons. In my experience, the KE4 Max are far more "point and shoot", on another tier in forgiveness, and feel better off the face, whether flushed or slightly mishit. I don't think you can possibly go wrong and, if I recall correctly, the lofts are within a degree of each other across the two sets.

@mynameisntshawnI second the KE4 MAX set for pops.. yet here I am with my debacle 😁. I set mine up with the Max for many of the reasons you're considering. And now he's wanting something closer to what I have. 

 

It may be in a month but I may have a set of MAX's in good condition hitting the open market when we decide what we're doing. 

 

[ApostateDrive]

2 minutes ago, AZstu324 said:

@mynameisntshawnI second the KE4 MAX set for pops.. yet here I am with my debacle 😁. I set mine up with the Max for many of the reasons you're considering. And now he's wanting something closer to what I have. 

 

It may be in a month but I may have a set of MAX's in good condition hitting the open market when we decide what we're doing. 

 

 

What shaft is in the Max set for your dad? Standard length/lie? I was planning on getting my pops an STi2 set, but if a Max set were to come available in +1/2" or +1"...

[AZstu324]

15 minutes ago, ApostateDrive said:

 

What shaft is in the Max set for your dad? Standard length/lie? I was planning on getting my pops an STi2 set, but if a Max set were to come available in +1/2" or +1"...

So it would probably end up being the heads only. He has the Maltby MPF Pro R flex. They're built at graphite standard which is +1/2" over steel. My clubs are +1/2" so they're the same length for both sets. Standard lie and loft too. 

 

I will say that he likes the MAX much more over the STi2's that I made for him previously. I would agree that the MAX are just a nicer overall club from the STi2. 

 

I'm keeping my eyes peeled for a set of S-Taper lite 105's to pick up first as @ApostateDrive suggested and use those initially with the MAX's and then go from there. 

 

I'm still anticipating him pulling the trigger on the TS3 or 4 but then we'd have his shafts ready to go. I'll hold onto the MPF Pro shafts just to have as a back up if the KBS don't work out. 

[terry55]

9 hours ago, AZstu324 said:

Ok here's a random question..

 

My dad's been playing the KE4 MAX set that I built him last year. They've been a great set paired with the Maltby pro shafts. He's 73 and roughly 20 hdcp so I feel like this set is very suiting for his abilities. He's actually a fairly consistent ball striker though and can hang with me from the longer tees. It's his mental game that really holds him back. He doesn't have much sense for course management and can get a little hot tempered under pressure and then unravel pretty quickly. Funny how the tables have turned from when I was a tempered teen and he used to tell me to cool it. 

 

Well yesterday we played and he had accidentally left his 8 iron home. I let him use my TS4 7i. He flushed a beautiful shot that ended up on the green and he was over the moon. It was a shot shape and ball flight that he hadn't been used to with his irons. Throughout the round he kept grabbing different clubs from my set and his intrigue continued to grow. Then he proceeded to say.. "so how soon can you build me a set of these?". 

 

Well as much as I wanted to tell him that these clubs might not be for him.. I continued to watch him have some fantastic success with my clubs and just enjoying them more than his MAX's. I'm also having a hard time getting over making him a set of TS4's when the MAX is still such a great set that is nearly new. 

 

After the round I then showed him the TS3's as an option and thought maybe those would be the better choice being more forgiving than my clubs, but while still being a step in that direction.

 

I guess what I'm asking is if anybody has tried all 3 to compare? Would I be better going TS3 instead? Or should I appease the old man and build him some TS4's? OR.. are the MAX still as good as he needs? I also thought about a combo set but he really hit the 5i well from my set and didn't have any intimidation. Another factor is that my shafts are KBS S taper lite 110's (S flex). So roughly 35g heavier per club. Maybe he just needs heavier shafts to help feel the club? I was thinking some S-Taper lite 105's since he liked mine so much. I just don't want him getting burnt out before the rounds over. 

 

Sorry if that was long winded. I'm just kind of at a loss with what to do

 

He is your only dad and in the last real productive decade of his athletic life. Give him what he wants.  He will always have the KE4's to fall back on.  Give him what he wants!

Edited September 19, 2023 by terry55
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[ApostateDrive]

On 9/18/2023 at 10:09 PM, gdb99 said:

So now the head is around 210 grams. If you like a heavier shaft, the FW shaft is a viable alternative.

 

Some who play shorter drivers have had good luck starting with a heavier shaft. 

 

I ended up ordering the 60g MPF Pro DR shaft in R flex as a starting point. My driver head weighs 201g with head, adapter, and screw. After cutting to 44", I will likely need to add 10-15 grams of head weight to get the swingweight where I want it, making the head 210-215 grams, which is the same as KE4 Tour TC 3 wood (210g) and 4 wood (215g). 

 

Does this mean that, once I do a dry fit for swingweight, I should tip the shaft like I'm installing it into a 3/4 wood head so the flex plays as Maltby designed it?

Edited September 20, 2023 by ApostateDrive

[gdb99]

6 hours ago, ApostateDrive said:

 

I ended up ordering the 60g MPF Pro DR shaft in R flex as a starting point. My driver head weighs 201g with head, adapter, and screw. After cutting to 44", I will likely need to add 10-15 grams of head weight to get the swingweight where I want it, making the head 210-215 grams, which is the same as KE4 Tour TC 3 wood (210g) and 4 wood (215g). 

 

Does this mean that, once I do a dry fit for swingweight, I should tip the shaft like I'm installing it into a 3/4 wood head so the flex plays as Maltby designed it?

I haven’t done that in the short drivers I have played. You might have to build it a little longer and see how you like the flex. You could pull and tip if needed.

 I think there is going to be some experimenting in your future. 😆

[taki27]

10 hours ago, ApostateDrive said:

 

I ended up ordering the 60g MPF Pro DR shaft in R flex as a starting point. My driver head weighs 201g with head, adapter, and screw. After cutting to 44", I will likely need to add 10-15 grams of head weight to get the swingweight where I want it, making the head 210-215 grams, which is the same as KE4 Tour TC 3 wood (210g) and 4 wood (215g). 

 

Does this mean that, once I do a dry fit for swingweight, I should tip the shaft like I'm installing it into a 3/4 wood head so the flex plays as Maltby designed it?

Yes and no.  First compare the BBGM of the driver to the fairway wood.  If they are even then I usually tip trim for a 3 wood since it is essentially a 3 wood weighted head (I play my drivers at 44).  If the BBGMs are different then you have to do some minor math.

Edited September 20, 2023 by taki27

[ApostateDrive]

7 minutes ago, taki27 said:

Yes and no.  First compare the BBGM of the driver to the fairway wood.  If they are even then I usually tip trim for a 3 wood since it is essentially a 3 wood weighted head (I play my drivers at 44).  If the BBGMs are different then you have to do some minor math.

 

Much appreciated!

[iamlowsound]

@Popeye64 here are a few pictures of the broomstick Moment X Tour that I built. I had it out on the practice green today and it's very forgiving. My course was hosting a PGA Professionals course and a few of the pros were asking about it. They all liked the looks of it. I forgot to take pictures until I was back in the locker room. It's staying in the bag for now, very easy to hit your line. 

[AZstu324]

For those who chimed in about the irons for my Dad, thank you for your input! We ended up going with the TS3's and the TT Elevate ETS R flex shafts that are on clearance. After searching around, I'm seeing that these shafts play and feel very closely to the C-Taper lites that I have in my irons. 

 

The shafts come 4-PW for $140 and I'll be soft stepping 1 club. 

 

@ApostateDrive I may be having the MAX come available sooner than later. Dad doesn't wanna mess around with experimenting.. OK pops.. it's your 💰. Shoot me a DM if you wanna talk details of what might be available.. assuming you're at all interested. 

[Sparkey67]

Same exact setup I'll be playing soon.  Pulled the KBS TGI 80 shafts I had in my TS3's last weekend.

[Tekton1377]

Well, I bought a set of STi2 Irons last night. I ordered the pak with steel shafts in Stiff 1/4" long if anyone cares about that. Now the waiting game begins.

 

My current Irons are 4i, 7-PW of Spalding Centurion Custom Cast that i was given second hand from an uncle. I'm not expecting miracles but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hopeful for an easier time on the course just by virtue of having more club options. This thread has been astoundingly helpful btw. I've got a baby on the way so my budget for clubs is not huge and to have 199 pages confirming that maltby clubs are not junk was a godsend. 

 

Once I get the clubs on course I'll add my .02 to the thread and hopefully help someone else decide to give these clubs a try! 

 

 

 

[ApostateDrive]

10 hours ago, Tekton1377 said:

Well, I bought a set of STi2 Irons last night. I ordered the pak with steel shafts in Stiff 1/4" long if anyone cares about that. Now the waiting game begins.

 

My current Irons are 4i, 7-PW of Spalding Centurion Custom Cast that i was given second hand from an uncle. I'm not expecting miracles but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hopeful for an easier time on the course just by virtue of having more club options. This thread has been astoundingly helpful btw. I've got a baby on the way so my budget for clubs is not huge and to have 199 pages confirming that maltby clubs are not junk was a godsend. 

 

Once I get the clubs on course I'll add my .02 to the thread and hopefully help someone else decide to give these clubs a try! 

 

 

 

 

You might not be waiting long friend. I ordered an STi2 iron Pak, two M890 hybrid Paks, and two TSW wedge Paks on Friday the 15th and they're slated for delivery today. Looks like Golfworks might have caught up.

[coreyhr]

Went ahead and ordered a 7,8 and PW in the TS4 to go along with the 9 iron I had previously built for testing. I'm going to experiment with a mixed bag with my TS3's. I'm still loving my TS3's, but I've noticed how consistent my starting line is with my TS4 9 iron when I've had it on the course or sim. I tested it again on my sim last night and the standard deviation on the start line with it was just stupid good. Launch, spin and ball speed are crazy repeatable as well. I bent my TS4 to match my TS3 9 iron in loft. The offset of the TS4 is low enough where there's room to go down in loft without it looking bad. I truly feel bad for all the people who will never give this TS line of irons a look because they don't recognize or scoff at the Maltby name. Best value in golf and it isn't even close. 

[iamlowsound]

11 hours ago, Tekton1377 said:

Well, I bought a set of STi2 Irons last night. I ordered the pak with steel shafts in Stiff 1/4" long if anyone cares about that. Now the waiting game begins.

 

My current Irons are 4i, 7-PW of Spalding Centurion Custom Cast that i was given second hand from an uncle. I'm not expecting miracles but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hopeful for an easier time on the course just by virtue of having more club options. This thread has been astoundingly helpful btw. I've got a baby on the way so my budget for clubs is not huge and to have 199 pages confirming that maltby clubs are not junk was a godsend. 

 

Once I get the clubs on course I'll add my .02 to the thread and hopefully help someone else decide to give these clubs a try! 

 

 

 

I thought the same thing about ordering them back when it was like 84 pages long!

[Double4me]

For those that are interested I did reach out to Golfworks on ordering 1 club out of a PAK and then ordering the rest of the PAK later. FWIW here was the response. 

 

Dear GolfWorks Customer,

 

Thank you for reaching out to us with your question regarding our Club Paks. We do understand the convenience of being able to test a single club before committing to the purchase of the entire Pak. For this reason, we do in fact offer our customers the option to buy one single club, and then at a later time, purchase the rest of the Pak minus that club. In order to do this one of our reps would need to place your order over the phone so we can adjust the price on this club / Pak.

 

We hope this helps you with your decision on what you would like to order from us. We appreciate your business and we look forward to working with you in the future for all of your golfing needs.

[Double4me]

@Popeye64 after trying out the PTM's again are you still gaming the TS1 IM? Or did they go back to the shelf?