golferdrmjr Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Playing Torrey Pines South This Weekend as a single. Any advice? Should I walk with a Caddy or Ride? What tees should I play? I'm actually super pumped first time playing golf in California. Any must buys from the pro shop? Haven't read the other posts but prepare to get your a** kicked. It's not an easy track even when the rough is "short". I rode when I played there as a single - as did the other three dudes. I played the furthest back tees allowed (several of the tournament tees are closed to the public). I did this because I'm a glutton for punishment. The pro shop is big and they have all kinds of merch - overpriced like any good pro shop ;) Lots of Naval activity in La Jolla so don't be alarmed when F-18s or F-14 go screaming by overhead all throughout the course.He already played and did not have a good time. :-( As far as riding goes, I've played there over a hundred times and walked every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferdrmjr Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Hopefully though my experience was a one off because I certainly do not mean or intend to rain on your parade. Playing Top 100 or PGA courses is always a fun experience. I just find for some reason that they do not seem to be warm and fuzzy to tourists who flock to play the course. I am playing Firestone south on labor day weekend and I have heard that it is grossly overrated and good luck getting any service there. I am still playing and I will let the forum know how it was.Just curious what "service" you need. People welcoming you, smiling, being pleasant, answering questions like you care (just a little bit) - things like that.Well, I get that kind of service every time I'm there. But I guess everyone has a bad day once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrasmus21 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Playing Torrey Pines South This Weekend as a single. Any advice? Should I walk with a Caddy or Ride? What tees should I play? I'm actually super pumped first time playing golf in California. Any must buys from the pro shop? Haven't read the other posts but prepare to get your a** kicked. It's not an easy track even when the rough is "short". I rode when I played there as a single - as did the other three dudes. I played the furthest back tees allowed (several of the tournament tees are closed to the public). I did this because I'm a glutton for punishment. The pro shop is big and they have all kinds of merch - overpriced like any good pro shop ;) Lots of Naval activity in La Jolla so don't be alarmed when F-18s or F-14 go screaming by overhead all throughout the course.He already played and did not have a good time. :-( As far as riding goes, I've played there over a hundred times and walked every time. Should have read the thread. Fail. Quote G400 LST - TPT proto TM M3 - Rogue Silver 110MSI 70S 21* Fourteen Type 7 Driving Iron - HZRDUS Black 6.5 105g 4 - PW Mizuno MP 18 MMC - SteelFiber FC115 50, 54, 60 RC Dual Bite - SteelFiber i125 Evnroll ER5 Snell MTB Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golferdrmjr Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Playing Torrey Pines South This Weekend as a single. Any advice? Should I walk with a Caddy or Ride? What tees should I play? I'm actually super pumped first time playing golf in California. Any must buys from the pro shop? Haven't read the other posts but prepare to get your a** kicked. It's not an easy track even when the rough is "short". I rode when I played there as a single - as did the other three dudes. I played the furthest back tees allowed (several of the tournament tees are closed to the public). I did this because I'm a glutton for punishment. The pro shop is big and they have all kinds of merch - overpriced like any good pro shop ;) Lots of Naval activity in La Jolla so don't be alarmed when F-18s or F-14 go screaming by overhead all throughout the course.He already played and did not have a good time. :-( As far as riding goes, I've played there over a hundred times and walked every time. Should have read the thread. Fail.Don't be too hard on yourself! Have a beverage, it'll be fine. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallrat Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Sorry if this is late or out of line but save yourself 1/2 the money and play the north course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stetson Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The amount of Hatorade for TP South is sad to see. For me personally I am not traveling half way across the country to try and save 75 dollars for the inferior course with inconsistent (new) greens. I would spend my entire round disappointed because I would be on the property of, but not the same course as, one of the greatest feats in sports history where a one legged legend found a way to win a 90 hole US Open. Quote Driver: Ping G410 LST (Diamana ZF) 5w: Titleist TS2 (Ventus Blue) 3H: Titleist 818 H2 (Ventus Blue HB) or 3i: Cobra King Utility 21* (Tour AD DI) 4-P: PXG 0311T (KBS $-Taper) Wedges: 51* Edel TRP, 55* Edel DVR, 60* Cally MD5 Putter: PXG Mini Gunboat H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNGL Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The amount of Hatorade for TP South is sad to see. For me personally I am not traveling half way across the country to try and save 75 dollars for the inferior course with inconsistent (new) greens. I would spend my entire round disappointed because I would be on the property of, but not the same course as, one of the greatest feats in sports history where a one legged legend found a way to win a 90 hole US Open. 91 holes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stetson Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Good catch Quote Driver: Ping G410 LST (Diamana ZF) 5w: Titleist TS2 (Ventus Blue) 3H: Titleist 818 H2 (Ventus Blue HB) or 3i: Cobra King Utility 21* (Tour AD DI) 4-P: PXG 0311T (KBS $-Taper) Wedges: 51* Edel TRP, 55* Edel DVR, 60* Cally MD5 Putter: PXG Mini Gunboat H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallrat Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The amount of Hatorade for TP South is sad to see. For me personally I am not traveling half way across the country to try and save 75 dollars for the inferior course with inconsistent (new) greens. I would spend my entire round disappointed because I would be on the property of, but not the same course as, one of the greatest feats in sports history where a one legged legend found a way to win a 90 hole US Open. I’m curious, have you played the course? I was completely underwhelmed by the course. Maybe it is from growing up in San Diego and have already been exposed to that stretch of coastline. It was cool having seen the holes on TV and the course is is almost always in great/spectacular shape. But the layout to me is average at best. Just because the course has some golf history doesn’t make it great. It’s not in my Top 10 by a wide margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stetson Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Yes. I played it 5 days ago for the first time. Everybody prioritizes different characteristics when grading a golf course, if lush green grass and great conditioning is important to you than the course I played 5 days ago would get a poor grade. I personally prefer courses that are dried out and require control of the golf ball on the ground in addition to in the air. Quote Driver: Ping G410 LST (Diamana ZF) 5w: Titleist TS2 (Ventus Blue) 3H: Titleist 818 H2 (Ventus Blue HB) or 3i: Cobra King Utility 21* (Tour AD DI) 4-P: PXG 0311T (KBS $-Taper) Wedges: 51* Edel TRP, 55* Edel DVR, 60* Cally MD5 Putter: PXG Mini Gunboat H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichMan123 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 its been a week since i played it and I'm more upset now that I was a week ago It was extremely expensive.The service sucked - i asked if I could play a bit earlier and they scoffed. Ok fine but no need to belittle. The conditions were horrible.The Round was incredibly slow. The only memorable hole was #3.I played with a 4 some and one of the players had a "caddie" - after the 2nd hole the caddie started hitting shots as well because it was so slow. Did I mention it was unbearably slow??? TP was by far the worst high end course I've ever played. Quote Ping G440 Max Tour Chrome 2.0 10.5 GT2 Fairway 16.5 Tensi Blue GT2 Hybrid 19 Tensi Blue Srixon ZXI7 4-PW DG Mid 115 Cleveland RTZ 52 56 60 Black Newport 2 Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stetson Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 its been a week since i played it and I'm more upset now that I was a week ago It was extremely expensive.The service sucked - i asked if I could play a bit earlier and they scoffed. Ok fine but no need to belittle.The conditions were horrible.The Round was incredibly slow.The only memorable hole was #3.I played with a 4 some and one of the players had a "caddie" - after the 2nd hole the caddie started hitting shots as well because it was so slow. Did I mention it was unbearably slow??? TP was by far the worst high end course I've ever played. I was fortunate, I got around in under 4.5 hours and paid the twilight rate. So your two biggest gripes I was lucky enough to avoid. As for the service they were not exactly warm and fuzzy, the starter was atleast cool. As far as conditions I didnt find them bad at all, the Poa had grown out later in the day so nobody was able to make a putt from distance but that is not just a TP issue. I have certainly played courses in better conditions in a scramble at a local housing development course, but I certainly have not played one as demanding every single shot as I experienced at Torrey. Yes it is "wide open" but the fairways are not real wide and hitting the correct portion of the green out of the rough is difficult, so you can make a lot of pars while driving erratically but you cannot make a lot of birdies. Had I paid $250 and had a 6 hour round I can guarantee I would have been unhappy heading back to the hotel as well. Quote Driver: Ping G410 LST (Diamana ZF) 5w: Titleist TS2 (Ventus Blue) 3H: Titleist 818 H2 (Ventus Blue HB) or 3i: Cobra King Utility 21* (Tour AD DI) 4-P: PXG 0311T (KBS $-Taper) Wedges: 51* Edel TRP, 55* Edel DVR, 60* Cally MD5 Putter: PXG Mini Gunboat H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepsiDuck Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 its been a week since i played it and I'm more upset now that I was a week ago It was extremely expensive.The service sucked - i asked if I could play a bit earlier and they scoffed. Ok fine but no need to belittle. The conditions were horrible.The Round was incredibly slow. The only memorable hole was #3.I played with a 4 some and one of the players had a "caddie" - after the 2nd hole the caddie started hitting shots as well because it was so slow. Did I mention it was unbearably slow??? TP was by far the worst high end course I've ever played. Was the caddie hot...? I assume it’s one of those kinds of caddies... Quote TaylorMade SIM Max 10.5* - Fujikura Ventus Black 7X TaylorMade M5 15* - Fujikura Motore Speeder 7.2TS X Callaway 815 Alpha Hybrid 21* - Mitsubishi Tensei Pro White 90TX Miura Baby Blade 4-P - KBS $-Taper X Miura Wedges - 52*, 56* - KBS $-Taper X Callaway MD4 Tactical 60* PXG Darkness Operator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichMan123 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 its been a week since i played it and I'm more upset now that I was a week ago It was extremely expensive.The service sucked - i asked if I could play a bit earlier and they scoffed. Ok fine but no need to belittle.The conditions were horrible.The Round was incredibly slow.The only memorable hole was #3.I played with a 4 some and one of the players had a "caddie" - after the 2nd hole the caddie started hitting shots as well because it was so slow. Did I mention it was unbearably slow??? TP was by far the worst high end course I've ever played. Was the caddie hot...? I assume it's one of those kinds of caddies... he was 90. Quote Ping G440 Max Tour Chrome 2.0 10.5 GT2 Fairway 16.5 Tensi Blue GT2 Hybrid 19 Tensi Blue Srixon ZXI7 4-PW DG Mid 115 Cleveland RTZ 52 56 60 Black Newport 2 Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfnhack Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Was listening to the No Laying Up podcast with Zac Blair. His father is a course designer and he loves course design. He was asked what course the PGA Tour plays that is the worst. His answer.... Torrey Pines South. Quote "Some emotions cannot be endured with a golf club in your hand." - Bobby Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrasmus21 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Was listening to the No Laying Up podcast with Zac Blair. His father is a course designer and he loves course design. He was asked what course the PGA Tour plays that is the worst. His answer.... Torrey Pines South. Interesting. Anyone know what's bad about the design? Maybe the views distracted me but I enjoyed most holes out there, not all but most. The course was in great shape when i was there as well. Quote G400 LST - TPT proto TM M3 - Rogue Silver 110MSI 70S 21* Fourteen Type 7 Driving Iron - HZRDUS Black 6.5 105g 4 - PW Mizuno MP 18 MMC - SteelFiber FC115 50, 54, 60 RC Dual Bite - SteelFiber i125 Evnroll ER5 Snell MTB Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallrat Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Not sure why but it is in the top 5 most disliked courses on Tour every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damenace613 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Was listening to the No Laying Up podcast with Zac Blair. His father is a course designer and he loves course design. He was asked what course the PGA Tour plays that is the worst. His answer.... Torrey Pines South. Interesting. Anyone know what's bad about the design? Maybe the views distracted me but I enjoyed most holes out there, not all but most. The course was in great shape when i was there as well. I guess the feedback is that the course pattern is repeated throughout. They like #2 and #3; with doglegs for #6 and #7 then it's repeated throughout. I find it enjoyable to walk although I do play the North more than the South; I would say that the North seems to take longer to play due to the 8 minute spacing between tee times versus the 10 minutes on the South Quote Driver: Cobra DS-Adapt Max K Fairways: TaylorMade M1 (2017) 3HL; Callaway Epic Heavenwood Irons: Cobra King Tec Forged Wedges: Ping Glide 54⁰; Callaway JAWS 58⁰ Putter: L.A.B. DF3 CB Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrasmus21 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Was listening to the No Laying Up podcast with Zac Blair. His father is a course designer and he loves course design. He was asked what course the PGA Tour plays that is the worst. His answer.... Torrey Pines South. Interesting. Anyone know what's bad about the design? Maybe the views distracted me but I enjoyed most holes out there, not all but most. The course was in great shape when i was there as well. I guess the feedback is that the course pattern is repeated throughout. They like #2 and #3; with doglegs for #6 and #7 then it's repeated throughout. I find it enjoyable to walk although I do play the North more than the South; I would say that the North seems to take longer to play due to the 8 minute spacing between tee times versus the 10 minutes on the South Learn something new every day. I hadn't a clue the feedback on tour was negative. Quote G400 LST - TPT proto TM M3 - Rogue Silver 110MSI 70S 21* Fourteen Type 7 Driving Iron - HZRDUS Black 6.5 105g 4 - PW Mizuno MP 18 MMC - SteelFiber FC115 50, 54, 60 RC Dual Bite - SteelFiber i125 Evnroll ER5 Snell MTB Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddnt Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I didnt know the tour and most WRXers hated TP so much, oh well! As far as the regular mortal golfers, if ya hate it... Ohh please stay away, makes it easier for us city residents to get tee time... Now Scatttttttt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincy_Ken Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Playing Monday for the first time ever. I'm a little discouraged with all the negativity but it's my first time ever in the San Diego area and don't know if I'll ever go back so I definitely want to play where the pros play every year and where the US open is being held. If I feel like I got ripped off, oh well it's only money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damenace613 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Learn something new every day. I hadn't a clue the feedback on tour was negative. Yeah I had no idea either. I guess the Plantation course in Hawaii is also disliked by the tour. Must be the beginning of the season and everybody is rusty... Quote Driver: Cobra DS-Adapt Max K Fairways: TaylorMade M1 (2017) 3HL; Callaway Epic Heavenwood Irons: Cobra King Tec Forged Wedges: Ping Glide 54⁰; Callaway JAWS 58⁰ Putter: L.A.B. DF3 CB Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrasmus21 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Learn something new every day. I hadn't a clue the feedback on tour was negative. Yeah I had no idea either. I guess the Plantation course in Hawaii is also disliked by the tour. Must be the beginning of the season and everybody is rusty... I didn't like it at TP South when I was in the rough and couldn't even see my shoes. Maybe that has something to do with it. A few times I was lucky to find my ball at all. Quote G400 LST - TPT proto TM M3 - Rogue Silver 110MSI 70S 21* Fourteen Type 7 Driving Iron - HZRDUS Black 6.5 105g 4 - PW Mizuno MP 18 MMC - SteelFiber FC115 50, 54, 60 RC Dual Bite - SteelFiber i125 Evnroll ER5 Snell MTB Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me05501 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 its been a week since i played it and I'm more upset now that I was a week ago It was extremely expensive.The service sucked - i asked if I could play a bit earlier and they scoffed. Ok fine but no need to belittle.The conditions were horrible.The Round was incredibly slow.The only memorable hole was #3.I played with a 4 some and one of the players had a "caddie" - after the 2nd hole the caddie started hitting shots as well because it was so slow. Did I mention it was unbearably slow??? TP was by far the worst high end course I've ever played. I think we found the problem. Torrey Pines is a muni. It's not a high-end course. They just charge non-residents a premium because they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spineshank Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I was going to play this Saturday but this thread deterred me. I’m playing Maderas instead. maderas was amazing. I totally agree. Amazing layout, great condition. So glad I chose it over TP. Quote Titleist GT3 10* Titleist GT3 15* Callaway Apex 18* Titleist T250 4i Titleist T150 5-PW Titleist Vokey 50* | 54* | 60* Scotty Cameron Newport Classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanSwagger83 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I played Torrey Pines South in 2014, and can't wait to play it again in October. I haven't played a lot of high end courses, so Torrey Pines was my favorite so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddnt Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I was going to play this Saturday but this thread deterred me. I’m playing Maderas instead. maderas was amazing. I totally agree. Amazing layout, great condition. So glad I chose it over TP.Its a total judgment call, but Im taking Barona Creek or Aviara over Maderas all day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichMan123 Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 its been a week since i played it and I'm more upset now that I was a week ago It was extremely expensive.The service sucked - i asked if I could play a bit earlier and they scoffed. Ok fine but no need to belittle.The conditions were horrible.The Round was incredibly slow.The only memorable hole was #3.I played with a 4 some and one of the players had a "caddie" - after the 2nd hole the caddie started hitting shots as well because it was so slow. Did I mention it was unbearably slow??? TP was by far the worst high end course I've ever played. I think we found the problem. Torrey Pines is a muni. It's not a high-end course. They just charge non-residents a premium because they can. its high end enough to hold a US open so I disagree Muni or not. St Andrews is also a Muni. As well as PGA National, Doral, Angus Glenn, .... Quote Ping G440 Max Tour Chrome 2.0 10.5 GT2 Fairway 16.5 Tensi Blue GT2 Hybrid 19 Tensi Blue Srixon ZXI7 4-PW DG Mid 115 Cleveland RTZ 52 56 60 Black Newport 2 Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanSwagger83 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I was going to play this Saturday but this thread deterred me. I’m playing Maderas instead. maderas was amazing. I totally agree. Amazing layout, great condition. So glad I chose it over TP.Its a total judgment call, but Im taking Barona Creek or Aviara over Maderas all day!(Open questions for anyone familiar with the area) --> any reviews good/bad about Balboa Park?And if the range at Torrey Pines isn't good, any suggestions on nearby ranges, preferably with grass tee's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer07840 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Ive played there as well last month. 6 hours. Horrible. Course was cool though 6 hours?? Hell, even rounds at Pebble Beach aren't that long (and sorry, Torrey Pines isn't Pebble IMO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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