Playing with the TM P760s

[MCoz]

I am a month in playing with the TaylorMade P760 irons. IMO this is the best set of blades since the TM R9 TP "B"s and frankly they are better. The balance of these are superb. I have played blades primarily since the 60's when that's all there was for the most part. Only a handful of times have I strayed to a somewhat "game improvement" club due to the fact that I don't like offset clubs. The most notable exceptions were the TM Tour Burner irons in 2008 that saw me get to a +4 hdcp. But I gravitated back thru the R9 TPs and into other Blades or cavity back blades. Of course the hdcp has gradually gone back to around a scratch (1 to +1). In '17 I moved to the M1 irons because I liked the looks and found them to be almost the "perfect" players type GI. I have numerous friends who followed me into those M1s, all low single digits. I preferred them to the very successful 790s because of the way they sat at address. The 750s (liked the looks, hated the distance loss) and the 770s (awkward offset in mid and long irons to my eye and still short) weren't quite for me. M3s were not an improvement for me vs the M1s.

Now the P760s come along and they are beautiful at address (the only look that counts!!). The balance and feel are great. Still I have never hit a 4 iron or 5 iron better than the M1s. So what I have done is matched those M1s with the P760 6 iron thru Pitching wedge. While some may think there would be gaps, let me explain: My M1s came from the Tour Dept and are 2* weaker than the standard set (thus also reducing the offset and the 760s are one degree stronger than standard. Both sets have the same shafts and are weighed to match. I still like the 760 long irons but the M1s are as perfect as I have ever hit. I can now work the ball better with the scoring clubs and they are much better with the knock down drilling shot into the wind. Yet they are still pretty forgiving.

I am back to zeroing in on the flags and at good distances. I am looking forward to more rounds in the 60's this coming year than in 2018!!

[jonn443]

Great review but I wouldn't consider these "Blades".

 

That's said, I agree...it's looks at address that's most important.

[veebs007x]

Great feedback but these certainly are not a blade. The short irons are a CB and the mid and long are a hollow body cavity.

[mrmikeac]

Definitely not blades bud. Good write up but I do think you may be dealing with quite the honeymoon period lol. I found the P760’s did sit very nice at address and I didn’t find the offset in the long irons to be as extreme as you know who put them out to be. With that being said, I would barely even put these in the players iron category, more of a players improvement category, these are extremely forgiving and easy to hit, the distances I found were a little inconsistent in the mid irons and I did notice quite a hot spot in the 6 iron, other than that I found these to be great irons and a good option for a mid to high hc who wants a smaller profile than the 790’s.

[craz-e]

You lost me at blades

[LaymanM]

Glad you found a set that works for you but def not blades.

[MCoz]

Hey guys, get over IT! For many years blades are not just butter knives and muscle backs. Thin soles and toplines clubs with small forged heads and little to no offset have been generally considered blades whether or not they were muscle backs or thin cavity backs. The R9 TP "B"s were considered blades by the tour where they had a large amount of sets in play.

To make comments on one's interpretation that isn't necessarily hardfast is shortsighted and ill advised.

For decades I have been testing golf equipment both prototypes and previews for several OEMs. I am not an unknown in the golf industry. So if all you have give is your definition of what a blade is, just don't comment and move on, don't bother to read me. I post for those who may want a view or some insight. Now I remember why I don't comment on this Site much anymore because of the lack of quality comments in favor of BS from people who think they know something.

 

What is a blade putter? No Ping putter or any copy is technically not a blade but they are often referred to as such as in "Blades" vs Mallets.

Old Tommy Armours, 8802s (and variations), BullsEyes, those are some of what was originally "blades". Terms have never been well defined only interpreted.

[nofxnate28]

Hey guys, get over IT! For many years blades are not just butter knives and muscle backs. Thin soles and toplines clubs with small forged heads and little to no offset have been generally considered blades whether or not they were muscle backs or thin cavity backs. The R9 TP "B"s were considered blades by the tour where they had a large amount of sets in play.

To make comments on one's interpretation that isn't necessarily hardfast is shortsighted and ill advised.

For decades I have been testing golf equipment both prototypes and previews for several OEMs. I am not an unknown in the golf industry. So if all you have give is your definition of what a blade is, just don't comment and move on, don't bother to read me. I post for those who may want a view or some insight. Now I remember why I don't comment on this Site much anymore because of the lack of quality comments in favor of BS from people who think they know something.

 

What is a blade putter? No Ping putter or any copy is technically not a blade but they are often referred to as such as in "Blades" vs Mallets.

Old Tommy Armours, 8802s (and variations), BullsEyes, those are some of what was originally "blades". Terms have never been well defined only interpreted.

 

I ordered a set of p760s so I'm more than appreciative for your review. Looking forward to these irons to give me a little forgiveness with a great look and profile.

[MCoz]

Hey guys, get over IT! For many years blades are not just butter knives and muscle backs. Thin soles and toplines clubs with small forged heads and little to no offset have been generally considered blades whether or not they were muscle backs or thin cavity backs. The R9 TP "B"s were considered blades by the tour where they had a large amount of sets in play.

To make comments on one's interpretation that isn't necessarily hardfast is shortsighted and ill advised.

For decades I have been testing golf equipment both prototypes and previews for several OEMs. I am not an unknown in the golf industry. So if all you have give is your definition of what a blade is, just don't comment and move on, don't bother to read me. I post for those who may want a view or some insight. Now I remember why I don't comment on this Site much anymore because of the lack of quality comments in favor of BS from people who think they know something.

 

What is a blade putter? No Ping putter or any copy is technically not a blade but they are often referred to as such as in "Blades" vs Mallets.

Old Tommy Armours, 8802s (and variations), BullsEyes, those are some of what was originally "blades". Terms have never been well defined only interpreted.

 

I ordered a set of p760s so I'm more than appreciative for your review. Looking forward to these irons to give me a little forgiveness with a great look and profile.

Thanks for the note. I am not here to sell stuff, as I don't live off of what I do for golf. I am all about the game and I have followers (not necessarily from this site) that appreciate how I can help enthusiasts. Grow the game! That is what is important! It was important to my dad who passed a few weeks ago. he was a very good player but he enjoyed the competition and the fellowship of golf and his friends although he out-lived almost all of them. My regret for him was that he never shot his age although he came close.

[WidespreadPanic]

An iron that has speedfoam in it while also having a cavity back is certainly not a blade. With that being said, the cavity is as close to being not a cavity as a cavity can get. Very minimal.

 

But I do agree that they are very nice irons. I think the P770/750 are really nice irons, but there were minor things I’d change about each, so I was looking forward to the 760. The initial pics turned me off but they look much better in person. They are on my radar for new irons (MP18-MB sc leading the way) and I’m going to hit them today.

[MakersMarsh3]

Great irons. Great write up. Appreciate you taking the time man

[Ed Settle]

Thank you for the write up. I do think they are interesting irons.

 

But as you know on the Internet everybody’s an expert. So I appreciate your pushback on the naysayers. I guess I’m guilty of being snippy every once in a while. But that gets really old pretty quick

[Haloha]

I am a month in playing with the TaylorMade P760 irons. IMO this is the best set of blades since the TM R9 TP "B"s and frankly they are better. The balance of these are superb. I have played blades primarily since the 60's when that's all there was for the most part. Only a handful of times have I strayed to a somewhat "game improvement" club due to the fact that I don't like offset clubs. The most notable exceptions were the TM Tour Burner irons in 2008 that saw me get to a +4 hdcp. But I gravitated back thru the R9 TPs and into other Blades or cavity back blades. Of course the hdcp has gradually gone back to around a scratch (1 to +1). In '17 I moved to the M1 irons because I liked the looks and found them to be almost the "perfect" players type GI. I have numerous friends who followed me into those M1s, all low single digits. I preferred them to the very successful 790s because of the way they sat at address. The 750s (liked the looks, hated the distance loss) and the 770s (awkward offset in mid and long irons to my eye and still short) weren't quite for me. M3s were not an improvement for me vs the M1s.

Now the P760s come along and they are beautiful at address (the only look that counts!!). The balance and feel are great. Still I have never hit a 4 iron or 5 iron better than the M1s. So what I have done is matched those M1s with the P760 6 iron thru Pitching wedge. While some may think there would be gaps, let me explain: My M1s came from the Tour Dept and are 2* weaker than the standard set (thus also reducing the offset and the 760s are one degree stronger than standard. Both sets have the same shafts and are weighed to match. I still like the 760 long irons but the M1s are as perfect as I have ever hit. I can now work the ball better with the scoring clubs and they are much better with the knock down drilling shot into the wind. Yet they are still pretty forgiving.

I am back to zeroing in on the flags and at good distances. I am looking forward to more rounds in the 60's this coming year than in 2018!!

 

Great info and thanks, I'm not in the market for new irons (happy with mine) but I do enjoy a detailed write up from an experienced player!

[Longballjock]

This write up deserves a like. Hope you enjoy them for a while ??

[High Plains Driver]

:stop: Guys calling MCoz out without knowing who he is, who he knows, and what his connections are.

[ctonr]

Cheers Mcoz, well written review as usual. Nice to hear from you, it's been a while.

[Jack Pearsall]

Sorry to hear about ur Dad passing. Condolences.

[lilcaeser]

Hey MCoz ,,, can you give us a review against the R9 TP 'B's ? ,,still one of my fav clubs of all time ,or even the RAC TP MB's ? ,worth the upgrade to the 760's ? thanks for the write up , :golfer: ,,T

 

just read the other posts- condolences on Dad ( were all too young to pass )

[MCoz]

Sorry to hear about ur Dad passing. Condolences.

Thanks, another of the "Greatest Generation" gone.

[MCoz]

Hey MCoz ,,, can you give us a review against the R9 TP 'B's ? ,,still one of my fav clubs of all time ,or even the RAC TP MB's ? ,worth the upgrade to the 760's ? thanks for the write up , :golfer: ,,T

 

just read the other posts- condolences on Dad ( were all too young to pass )

I pulled out my old '9 TP Bs. I loved those clubs, I still have them (of course I still have most of the clubs I have used going back to my First Flights (pre-Palmer) and my Ping K1s pre-dot!

I think of the 760's as a follow up successor to both the B's and the Rac TPs. All are very accurate and playable for shotmakers. I was playing steel in the B's (C-Tapers 120s. On the Rac TP MBs I switched to Fuji MCI 100s. But a few years ago I switched to Fuji Pro 95i and I love these shafts in everything I have tried usually 1/2" over. It wasn't easy for me to go to lighter shafts but these have worked very well for me (and my elbows and hands). I still use the same weights I have used in Woods and utilities for the past 15+ years. I prefer the Fuji over the Aerotech although they are close.

Back to the comparisons, the 760s are slightly smaller heads than the others which look to be more similar to the 790s. I hit the 760's a little longer but with a slightly higher trajectory but shafts are different. The feel is similar but slightly softer in the new clubs and the workability appears to be even better also. These 760s are exacting clubs. At address they more similar to the R9 TP B's but even a little better. the flow from the shaft to the hosel to the leading edge is excellent.

{I have never liked that part of the Ben Hogans from way back to the Titleist AP whatevers. I used to like the Titleist Tour Model 88's from 3 decades ago, ambivalent about them since but that is my own visual issue}

I don't do this review lightly or in haste. This is the new and improved versions of the older models you asked about. I highly recommend to anyone playing "non-offset players clubs to look these over and test them out. I don't know what the graphite options are I had mine specially done. But I will say that these heads can use graphites.

since.

[FairwayFred]

Great review MCoz. Always great to get your take. Love to see reviews from old school forum guys who really know their stuff.

[Jagpilotohio]

I must say, I was pleasantly surprised by them in the store last night. Didn’t have time to hit them.

 

Very nice shape, size, topline, pre worn leading edge, progressive offset. I still detest those lines on the back, but you don’t have to look at the back when you hit them.

 

I may have to pick up a set for a long term demo in the spring. I doubt they can kick my PTx out of the bag though. The PTx are great sticks..

[wilymo]

Saw these in person finally and like most was pleasantly surprised at the looks. I don’t see why everyone is up in arms about the blades comment since it seems like even manufacturers throw the term around pretty loosely i.e. ping iblades. Either way, great review. Has anyone compares these to the AP2’s?

[jll62]

Hey guys, get over IT! For many years blades are not just butter knives and muscle backs. Thin soles and toplines clubs with small forged heads and little to no offset have been generally considered blades whether or not they were muscle backs or thin cavity backs. The R9 TP "B"s were considered blades by the tour where they had a large amount of sets in play.

To make comments on one's interpretation that isn't necessarily hardfast is shortsighted and ill advised.

For decades I have been testing golf equipment both prototypes and previews for several OEMs. I am not an unknown in the golf industry. So if all you have give is your definition of what a blade is, just don't comment and move on, don't bother to read me. I post for those who may want a view or some insight. Now I remember why I don't comment on this Site much anymore because of the lack of quality comments in favor of BS from people who think they know something.

 

What is a blade putter? No Ping putter or any copy is technically not a blade but they are often referred to as such as in "Blades" vs Mallets.

Old Tommy Armours, 8802s (and variations), BullsEyes, those are some of what was originally "blades". Terms have never been well defined only interpreted.

 

Believe me, those of us who have been around this site for any length of time, and also old sites, appreciate any and all MCoz posts.

 

As for the P760s...I was pleased to see your take on them. I finally had a chance to hit them last week at TM HQ and was very happy with the results. Looking forward to more time with them once spring rolls around.

[dunn]

Lol, this is too funny but I'll be quiet

 

 

[MCoz]

I must say, I was pleasantly surprised by them in the store last night. Didn’t have time to hit them.

 

Very nice shape, size, topline, pre worn leading edge, progressive offset. I still detest those lines on the back, but you don’t have to look at the back when you hit them.

 

I may have to pick up a set for a long term demo in the spring. I doubt they can kick my PTx out of the bag though. The PTx are great sticks..

A couple of points I missed was that leading edge is really excellent and something that the older clubs don't have. I have ground leading edges on other clubs where these didn't need it because that is designed in.

 

One Negative point is the numbering on the soles are not easy to read due to a thin line "blockish" style. The 5,6,8,9 and P can be difficult at a glance which I don't recall in other sets of clubs.

[CenCalGolfer]

Mine arrive tonight, and hopefully the weather will hold up and I can get out this weekend! I am going from Nike VPCs DG Gold x100 and now I will be gaming these bad boys, with the KBS C-Tapers. Looking forward to them with my new M5 and M6 3w

[MPG]

MCoz said:

Hey guys, get over IT! For many years blades are not just butter knives and muscle backs. Thin soles and toplines clubs with small forged heads and little to no offset have been generally considered blades whether or not they were muscle backs or thin cavity backs. The R9 TP "B"s were considered blades by the tour where they had a large amount of sets in play.

 

To make comments on one's interpretation that isn't necessarily hardfast is shortsighted and ill advised.

 

For decades I have been testing golf equipment both prototypes and previews for several OEMs. I am not an unknown in the golf industry. So if all you have give is your definition of what a blade is, just don't comment and move on, don't bother to read me. I post for those who may want a view or some insight. Now I remember why I don't comment on this Site much anymore because of the lack of quality comments in favor of BS from people who think they know something.

 

 

 

What is a blade putter? No Ping putter or any copy is technically not a blade but they are often referred to as such as in "Blades" vs Mallets.

 

Old Tommy Armours, 8802s (and variations), BullsEyes, those are some of what was originally "blades". Terms have never been well defined only interpreted.

Great review and follow up post.   I get tired of the site and people having to correct others on blade education, who cares, they are irons.  I really enjoy my P760.  I have been using the, since January for several rounds.   They do everything I wanted but provide much more forgiveness.   They are great and look great behind the ball.   

 

[Mitchell]

Didn't see post on prior iteration of forums, so just wanted to say thanks for your contributions MCoz.