Robert Garrigus

[handyquacks17]

> @Lakeeffectgolf said:

> I heard a agent for some NHL players once tell me they don't test for weed in the NHL. He said they would have a hard time putting players on the ice if they did. Main reason he said NHL players use it is for Natural pain relief. I can absolutely see where it would benefit golfers on tour.

>

> Someday the stigma will be gone on this. Too many people make a big thing about it. And now that its becoming legal in more states they down side is that it's going to influenced and taxed by the government. You can't have a weed that has been on this planet for millions of years without the government getting involved........ What a country.

 

I have a few buddies who play pro hockey, 1 nhl and the others in some lower leagues...i would estimate 70 to 75 percent of their teammates smoke pot daily

[dropkicked]

> @3jacker said:

> We all know that alchohol is a very destructive drug, but it's been around forever and gets a pass. Pot, not so much. I think a big part of this, aside from history, is that proponents of marijuana just annoy the living **** out of everyone with their nonsense.

> "My aunt uses it to treat her Hepatitis C..."

> "It's the only thing that works..."

> "It's natural, bro.. God gave it to us.."

> As another poster above noted - it's like ALL pot-users focus on it most of the time. Only alchoholics seem to lead a life centered around that drug.

>

>

 

Respectfully, if this was a shot at what I posted in regards to my family, you can go stick it where the sun don't' shine and piss right off.

How many pills do you take on daily schedule? ..

How many times are you calling your dr or rushing over to their office in order to get a script filled?

How fast are you to grab for an Advil when you feel stiff or have a headache?

-An honest answer will reveal just how focused YOU may be on a pharma fed lifestyle.

 

Do you honestly believe that all adults who smoke or consume cannabis are thinking about getting high 24/7?.... Perhaps you're unaware that Cannabis is not ADDICTIVE?

 

 

 

[Ferguson]

Re: As for which facts are wrong, marijuana is currently ranked as a schedule I drug (along with lsd, peyote, and ecstacy), indicating it has no medicinal value, and is highly abusive. It's ranked higher than OxyContin, meth, and cocaine. There's no way that ranking is correct. As far as 'what society?', almost 70% of the states in the US to date have either decriminalized or legalized weed. The Feds have not caught up yet. Not to mention our neighbors to the north, etc.

 

 

 

 

Normally I would say, "take your burlap hoodie and sandals" argument elsewhere, but I won't.

 

Unfortunately, weed falls under the PGA's anti-doping program as a "substance" that is disallowed.

 

What bothers me the most (in cases such as this) is that people, in their defense of smoking weed, now make RG out to be cool or hip. I laugh at people like RG.......a professional who KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY chooses to do something that he or she knows is wrong and still does it even though it impacts their life and job. It speaks volumes about his personality and quite possibly to this so-called "society" you referenced.

 

What RG did was not being cool or hip - it's called being childish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bladehunter]

@dropkicked

 

Preface this with saying that you and I share mindsets a lot. So with that I’m not at all trying to just poke you.

 

But. Doesn’t it have to be addictive to some degree ? At least from the pleasure standpoint ? Caffeine is addictive. But also easily broken habit. So there are many degrees of addictive. Just the idea that so many here are so riled up about it and being able to use daily if they want , points to some level of brain changing activity directly from it. Is that wrong or right or any bodies business ? Open question in my opinion. I’m not really wanting to judge that on a private personal level. For the most part im a “ you do you and I’ll do me “ kind of person. But having kids turns your head with some of those ideas. And you realize what dramatizations and commercializing things does to a kids view point. Vaping is a great example of how anything that is commercialized will market toward kids if you let them. We nearly took smoking from teens hands altogether and then they let them replace the marketing for cigarettes to marketing for vaping. And they all started vaping. Most never smoked before they vaped. You can guess what will be next. Why ? $$$$

 

 

As I said before. Decriminalize it as far as possession and growing for personal use. ( defined number of plants etc ) Just make it illegal to market and sell commercially. The folks in need of its medicinal properties can still get it and Everybody with a brain can smoke if they choose. Kids won’t be introduced to it through commercial means , and it remains underground where it should be. I know this idea is The one that gets the most outrage. The stigma is what smokers want gone most. But I counter with this. Where will the line be for personal liberties and recreational drugs ?

 

As for me. I don’t have a prescription for anything. Haven’t ever. May take the odd Advil once a month for a headache . My only vise is coffee. And it’s in small shot form ( I make myself ,not Starbucks trash ) for the taste. Not pots of swill at a time for the caffeine, although I’m sure I’d miss it due to caffeine withdrawal for a day or two if I quit.

 

I’m with you on big pharmaceutical companies and all the poison they produce. And I mirror the thoughts most have on alcohol. I abhor what it does. So much so that I have a full liquor cabinet that truthfully hasn’t been touched in 7 years since we adopted my nephew. Someone asked why I didn’t pour it all out. I thought and said it must be the pack rat / waste not want not in me. I hate to waste it. But soon I’ll do something to get it out of his reach before he hits puberty and loses his brain. if someone came along and wanted it I’d load their trunk up for free. All high end stuff. We never really drank much anyway. Just seemed like the thing you were supposed to have for company etc.

 

Said that fully realizing someone will call out “ high horse sitter “ on me. But that’s not my point. Or position. My point is that I just do not get the need for it (commercialized use) in society. I see only downsides with no up. And see no reason why the infirmed can’t receive the benefits without giving the dispensaries and govts the right to market it in a public fashion to influence people to try it. That’s exactly what is happening. It is on every news outlet and candidates tongue everytime a state votes on it.

 

[bscinstnct]

> @Ferguson said:

> Re: As for which facts are wrong, marijuana is currently ranked as a schedule I drug (along with lsd, peyote, and ecstacy), indicating it has no medicinal value, and is highly abusive. It's ranked higher than OxyContin, meth, and cocaine. There's no way that ranking is correct. As far as 'what society?', almost 70% of the states in the US to date have either decriminalized or legalized weed. The Feds have not caught up yet. Not to mention our neighbors to the north, etc.

>

>

>

>

> Normally I would say, "take your burlap hoodie and sandals" argument elsewhere, but I won't.

>

> Unfortunately, weed falls under the PGA's anti-doping program as a "substance" that is disallowed.

>

> What bothers me the most (in cases such as this) is that people, in their defense of smoking weed, now make RG out to be cool or hip. I laugh at people like RG.......a professional who KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY chooses to do something that he or she knows is wrong and still does it even though it impacts their life and job. It speaks volumes about his personality and quite possibly to this so-called "society" you referenced.

>

> What RG did was not being cool or hip - it's called being childish.

>

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>

>

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>

 

Not his fault

 

He prolly forgot the rule ; )

 

 

[RichieHunt]

I'm all for the legalization of marijuana. Unfortunately, no major sports organization is going to take a stand and make it alright for its athletes to use marijuana. Particularly the PGA Tour which relies so heavily on sponsorship. It's just not going to happen. You would need for the legalization of marijuana in practically every state for that to happen. And that's going to be a while before that happens.

 

 

 

RH

[Pepperturbo]

> @gvogel said:

> > @fowlerscousin said:

> > Golf is a sport where we can get away from potheads

>

> I have a very good friend, who is a wonderful player, mini tour player, shot his age at 70, and he enjoys a little Hounda, as he calls it. Probably a bit safer than whiskey.

>

>

I have been a single malt sipper since the seventies, typically a dram or two per week. NO WAY smoking a joint is safer than sipping single malt. I don't sip to get drunk either but enjoy the whiskey profile. The people that I am familiar with that enjoy whiskey don't get drunk. However, when someone smokes a joint it is to get stoned. :beach:

 

[braincramp52]

I was a heavy pot smoker back in the late 60's and 70's. When I got married in 1980 I decided I would quit since we were starting a family. I found it fairly easy to quit pot. Cigarettes were much harder to quit. While I smoked pot nearly everyday I never once had the urge to try anything harder like cocaine or anything else. That stuff always kind of freaked me out.

[Pepperturbo]

> @OutBackHack said:

> > @MattyO1984 said:

> > Each to there own I guess but smoking that rubbish at 41?! Come on man, grow up!

>

> So, not each to their own then.

 

"Each to their own" simply acknowledges freedom of choice. It does NOT by definition mean I agree with his or her choice in the matter. Big difference between freedom of choice and good judgment.

[cardoustie]

Can we accept the following:

- some folks can imbibe and not become addicted whereas others cannot

- golf, and other sports, can be played very well while high or drunk and players become dependent on that part of their daily ritual to "help" their performance

- don't judge someone until you've been in their shoes. Unless you've been in agonizing pain you don't know what you'd do

 

[c7015]

Should be a prerequisite before posting in this thread

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @Ferguson said:

>

> What bothers me the most (in cases such as this) is that people, in their defense of smoking weed, now make RG out to be cool or hip. I laugh at people like RG.......a professional who KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY chooses to do something that he or she knows is wrong and still does it even though it impacts their life and job. It speaks volumes about his personality and quite possibly to this so-called "society" you referenced.

>

> What RG did was not being cool or hip - it's called being childish.

>

>

>

>

>

>

Ferg that's just silly. No one made RG out to be cool for doing this. This is something you conjured up in that creative mind of yours.

 

[dropkicked]

> @bladehunter said:

> @dropkicked

>

> Preface this with saying that you and I share mindsets a lot. So with that I’m not at all trying to just poke you.

>

> But. Doesn’t it have to be addictive to some degree ? At least from the pleasure standpoint ? Caffeine is addictive. But also easily broken habit. So there are many degrees of addictive. Just the idea that so many here are so riled up about it and being able to use daily if they want , points to some level of brain changing activity directly from it. Is that wrong or right or any bodies business ? Open question in my opinion. I’m not really wanting to judge that on a private personal level. For the most part im a “ you do you and I’ll do me “ kind of person. But having kids turns your head with some of those ideas. And you realize what dramatizations and commercializing things does to a kids view point. Vaping is a great example of how anything that is commercialized will market toward kids if you let them. We nearly took smoking from teens hands altogether and then they let them replace the marketing for cigarettes to marketing for vaping. And they all started vaping. Most never smoked before they vaped. You can guess what will be next. Why ? $$$$

>

>

> As I said before. Decriminalize it as far as possession and growing for personal use. ( defined number of plants etc ) Just make it illegal to market and sell commercially. The folks in need of its medicinal properties can still get it and Everybody with a brain can smoke if they choose. Kids won’t be introduced to it through commercial means , and it remains underground where it should be. I know this idea is The one that gets the most outrage. The stigma is what smokers want gone most. But I counter with this. Where will the line be for personal liberties and recreational drugs ?

>

> As for me. I don’t have a prescription for anything. Haven’t ever. May take the odd Advil once a month for a headache . My only vise is coffee. And it’s in small shot form ( I make myself ,not Starbucks trash ) for the taste. Not pots of swill at a time for the caffeine, although I’m sure I’d miss it due to caffeine withdrawal for a day or two if I quit.

>

> I’m with you on big pharmaceutical companies and all the poison they produce. And I mirror the thoughts most have on alcohol. I abhor what it does. So much so that I have a full liquor cabinet that truthfully hasn’t been touched in 7 years since we adopted my nephew. Someone asked why I didn’t pour it all out. I thought and said it must be the pack rat / waste not want not in me. I hate to waste it. But soon I’ll do something to get it out of his reach before he hits puberty and loses his brain. if someone came along and wanted it I’d load their trunk up for free. All high end stuff. We never really drank much anyway. Just seemed like the thing you were supposed to have for company etc.

>

> Said that fully realizing someone will call out “ high horse sitter “ on me. But that’s not my point. Or position. My point is that I just do not get the need for it (commercialized use) in society. I see only downsides with no up. And see no reason why the infirmed can’t receive the benefits without giving the dispensaries and govts the right to market it in a public fashion to influence people to try it. That’s exactly what is happening. It is on every news outlet and candidates tongue everytime a state votes on it.

>

 

I agree with you 100% that the commercialization will be a problem moving forward. Companies like Altria Group, who are the makers of "Marlboro" have a 45 % ownership in a Toronto based licensed grower and they have plans to package into cigarette forms. ( already being done now, but they are a massive company with billions in capital for marketing)

A huge part of the commercial packaging process here in Canada is that it must be non-descript and cannot in anyway be shown to be marketed towards or enticing minors.

We also have a 4 plant law in place for households. This greatly reduces the need to be reliant on retailers and black markets as 4 plants can yield more than one household can consume in a calendar year.

The adage "Too much of anything makes you an addict" rings true and while Cannabis itself may not be addictive, the feeling of relief it may provide likely can and will be for many.

I appreciate your POV, as I understand exactly where it comes from and take no offence as I know you have a differing and highly personal view from life experience that should not be marginalized irregardless of how my own.

[Pepperturbo]

> @cardoustie said:

> Can we accept the following:

> - some folks can imbibe and not become addicted whereas others cannot

> - golf, and other sports, can be played very well while high or drunk and players become dependent on that part of their daily ritual to "help" their performance

> - don't judge someone until you've been in their shoes. Unless you've been in agonizing pain you don't know what you'd do

>

 

Yes to the first line, no to the second, maybe to the third, but will judge actions and behavior as right or wrong but not the character. I have been living with excruciating arthritis pain for quite some time yet no desire to smoke dope, drink to excess or take pills. That's just how I am...

[Jack Pearsall]

As an adult, Jack Pearsall doesn’t think it’s any business of the government to tell JP what he smokes. But then, JP doesn’t think much of government.

Pot was lumped with heroin so they could throw predominantly Black and always poor people in jail. It was used as a form of social control.

Of course the PGA tests for it. Think of who runs golf....

[Ferguson]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > @Ferguson said:

> >

> > What bothers me the most (in cases such as this) is that people, in their defense of smoking weed, now make RG out to be cool or hip. I laugh at people like RG.......a professional who KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY chooses to do something that he or she knows is wrong and still does it even though it impacts their life and job. It speaks volumes about his personality and quite possibly to this so-called "society" you referenced.

> >

> > What RG did was not being cool or hip - it's called being childish.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> Ferg that's just silly. No one made RG out to be cool for doing this. This is something you conjured up in that creative mind of yours.

>

 

It's not silly. By defending the smoke, he or she is saying it's cool to smoke. Isn't that what the "modern defense" of smoking weed is all about, being cool? Hey, look at us - we won....we can now smoke pot. Where is the goodness in harming oneself for a high?

 

If he or she thinks smoking drugs is okay - he or she is saying that it's cool for RG to smoke and that he shouldn't be punished because the rules shouldn't apply to a pro golfer. In short, he or she is saying it's harmless when studies have shown it's not.

 

Someone even referenced the Cheech and Chong movie - why? Another person joked of the munchies - why?

Cause it's funny and cool to joke around about drug use.

 

RG was irresponsible.

 

 

[bladehunter]

> @dropkicked said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > @dropkicked

> >

> > Preface this with saying that you and I share mindsets a lot. So with that I’m not at all trying to just poke you.

> >

> > But. Doesn’t it have to be addictive to some degree ? At least from the pleasure standpoint ? Caffeine is addictive. But also easily broken habit. So there are many degrees of addictive. Just the idea that so many here are so riled up about it and being able to use daily if they want , points to some level of brain changing activity directly from it. Is that wrong or right or any bodies business ? Open question in my opinion. I’m not really wanting to judge that on a private personal level. For the most part im a “ you do you and I’ll do me “ kind of person. But having kids turns your head with some of those ideas. And you realize what dramatizations and commercializing things does to a kids view point. Vaping is a great example of how anything that is commercialized will market toward kids if you let them. We nearly took smoking from teens hands altogether and then they let them replace the marketing for cigarettes to marketing for vaping. And they all started vaping. Most never smoked before they vaped. You can guess what will be next. Why ? $$$$

> >

> >

> > As I said before. Decriminalize it as far as possession and growing for personal use. ( defined number of plants etc ) Just make it illegal to market and sell commercially. The folks in need of its medicinal properties can still get it and Everybody with a brain can smoke if they choose. Kids won’t be introduced to it through commercial means , and it remains underground where it should be. I know this idea is The one that gets the most outrage. The stigma is what smokers want gone most. But I counter with this. Where will the line be for personal liberties and recreational drugs ?

> >

> > As for me. I don’t have a prescription for anything. Haven’t ever. May take the odd Advil once a month for a headache . My only vise is coffee. And it’s in small shot form ( I make myself ,not Starbucks trash ) for the taste. Not pots of swill at a time for the caffeine, although I’m sure I’d miss it due to caffeine withdrawal for a day or two if I quit.

> >

> > I’m with you on big pharmaceutical companies and all the poison they produce. And I mirror the thoughts most have on alcohol. I abhor what it does. So much so that I have a full liquor cabinet that truthfully hasn’t been touched in 7 years since we adopted my nephew. Someone asked why I didn’t pour it all out. I thought and said it must be the pack rat / waste not want not in me. I hate to waste it. But soon I’ll do something to get it out of his reach before he hits puberty and loses his brain. if someone came along and wanted it I’d load their trunk up for free. All high end stuff. We never really drank much anyway. Just seemed like the thing you were supposed to have for company etc.

> >

> > Said that fully realizing someone will call out “ high horse sitter “ on me. But that’s not my point. Or position. My point is that I just do not get the need for it (commercialized use) in society. I see only downsides with no up. And see no reason why the infirmed can’t receive the benefits without giving the dispensaries and govts the right to market it in a public fashion to influence people to try it. That’s exactly what is happening. It is on every news outlet and candidates tongue everytime a state votes on it.

> >

>

> I agree with you 100% that the commercialization will be a problem moving forward. Companies like Altria Group, who are the makers of "Marlboro" have a 45 % ownership in a Toronto based licensed grower and they have plans to package into cigarette forms. ( already being done now, but they are a massive company with billions in capital for marketing)

> A huge part of the commercial packaging process here in Canada is that it must be non-descript and cannot in anyway be shown to be marketed towards or enticing minors.

> We also have a 4 plant law in place for households. This greatly reduces the need to be reliant on retailers and black markets as 4 plants can yield more than one household can consume in a calendar year.

> The adage "Too much of anything makes you an addict" rings true and while Cannabis itself may not be addictive, the feeling of relief it may provide likely can and will be for many.

> I appreciate your POV, as I understand exactly where it comes from and take no offence as I know you have a differing and highly personal view from life experience that should not be marginalized irregardless of how my own.

 

 

Thank you for reading my rambling for what it is. Lol.

 

It’s not a guy who wants to tell you what to do in your home. But is from a parent who doesn’t want his kid to be influenced by advertisement . And a citizen who doesn’t want to have to put up with second hand smoke at every public outlet ( concerts , bars , restaurants etc ) that i enjoy.

 

Before anyone says something on that. I’m old enough to recall when going to a bar included the automatic motion that you’d smoke a pack of cigs second handedly without a choice. And you’d come home smelling like an ashtray after 5 min. That was bad enough to deal with. But we chose to or not go. Mostly not go.

 

But worse ever now is that you cannot go to a public venue anywhere without being seated beside a drunk. When I was a kid. Sure they sold beer at baseball games etc. but you’d never see it at say a indoor sit down concert. Or a kids birthday party. Now. You can’t go to a G rated concert or a 5 year olds function without some hipster and his cooler of brew getting sloshed right beside you. I’ve quit concerts altogether because of the fact that I’m already seated beside “ that drunk guy “ who likes on us or spills his beer on our feet as he dances.

 

Next will be public cannibas consumption that will impede my personal existence. And because of my sensitivity to it I’m sure it will mean more hermit type behavior from me as I try to avoid the revelers cheering as we circle the drain one more time. Lol

 

Anyway. You got my point. I’d remain quiet if we lost all the glamorization of it and just quietly agreed to stop locking guys up for a bag in their pocket.

 

 

[bladehunter]

> @RichieHunt said:

> I'm all for the legalization of marijuana. Unfortunately, no major sports organization is going to take a stand and make it alright for its athletes to use marijuana. Particularly the PGA Tour which relies so heavily on sponsorship. It's just not going to happen. You would need for the legalization of marijuana in practically every state for that to happen. And that's going to be a while before that happens.

>

>

>

> RH

 

 

Very true . If I know South Carolina. I’d bet we are 51st behind Puerto Rico to legalize it.

[3jacker]

> @dropkicked said:

> > @3jacker said:

> > We all know that alchohol is a very destructive drug, but it's been around forever and gets a pass. Pot, not so much. I think a big part of this, aside from history, is that proponents of marijuana just annoy the living **** out of everyone with their nonsense.

> > "My aunt uses it to treat her Hepatitis C..."

> > "It's the only thing that works..."

> > "It's natural, bro.. God gave it to us.."

> > As another poster above noted - it's like ALL pot-users focus on it most of the time. Only alchoholics seem to lead a life centered around that drug.

> >

> >

>

> Respectfully, if this was a shot at what I posted in regards to my family, you can go stick it where the sun don't' shine and **** right off.

> How many pills do you take on daily schedule? ..

> How many times are you calling your dr or rushing over to their office in order to get a script filled?

> How fast are you to grab for an Advil when you feel stiff or have a headache?

> -An honest answer will reveal just how focused YOU may be on a pharma fed lifestyle.

>

> Do you honestly believe that all adults who smoke or consume cannabis are thinking about getting high 24/7?.... Perhaps you're unaware that Cannabis is not ADDICTIVE?

>

>

>

 

Uh, no.. I'm not referring to your family nor do I have any knowledge of them. I don't take meds at all. Lucky, I guess. I used to drink though, then stopped after a while once I realized the only times I still did were to get a buzz on with the guys or get drunk, neither of which are 'real' and were generally a waste.

 

I didn't say 24/7. But they sure do talk about it a lot compared to those who partake in other activities, like smoking or drinking (EXCLUDING college-age crowd).

 

What do you mean by addictive? Physiologically? I agree. Mentally? Not so much. Any substance can be addictive in that way.

 

Let's be honest here. It's like alcohol - it produces an intoxicating affect that people like. That's why they smoke/drink. I guess some sorts enjoy the "flavor profile" but I'm still trying to work my mind around that one.

I personally don't think the gov't should have "illegalized" it in the first place. But that's what the populace (majority) wanted and have so far supported thus far. Seems to be breaking down under teh guise of "medical usage" only. I am not a proponent of that; it should be legal free and clear. Criminal actions arising from abuse should be prosecuting on their own grounds.

As for sports - governing bodies make the rules, it's not open for our debate, and those subject to them are in a contract that they will abide by those rules. RG didn't, he got caught, and he's paying the price. And he's ok with it. How anyone else not personally affected by this matter wouldn't be is very telling...

[bscinstnct]

I don't care what any of you say

Nothin like a couple of brewskies and a fat spliff.

Drinkin beer and shmokin weed!

 

; )

 

At least back on vacation anyway.

Good thread, varied opinions, but all reasonable and bring perspective. One risk to alcohol or weed, things many do to "just unwind" is that they are habit forming and can alter your perception of what "being relaxed" is. At least during the times of the day when you typically partake. Also, tolerances develop and you wind up needing more to accomplish the same effect. Then, the health impact can be serious.

 

 

[Birdie Mac]

> @Pepperturbo said:

> > @gvogel said:

> > > @fowlerscousin said:

> > > Golf is a sport where we can get away from potheads

> >

> > I have a very good friend, who is a wonderful player, mini tour player, shot his age at 70, and he enjoys a little Hounda, as he calls it. Probably a bit safer than whiskey.

> >

> >

> I have been a single malt sipper since the seventies, typically a dram or two per week. NO WAY smoking a joint is safer than sipping single malt. I don't sip to get drunk either but enjoy the whiskey profile. The people that I am familiar with that enjoy whiskey don't get drunk. However, when someone smokes a joint it is to get stoned. :beach:

>

I like a shot of bourbon every now and then. I haven't smoked in 30 years, in order to abide by the rules of the corporate world. Were I able to, I can assure you it wouldn't be to get stoned; it would only be to take the edge off. Much like I do with bourbon. You shouldn't be denied your single malt any more than the next guy should be denied his edible or joint.

 

 

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @Ferguson said:

> > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > @Ferguson said:

> > >

> > > What bothers me the most (in cases such as this) is that people, in their defense of smoking weed, now make RG out to be cool or hip. I laugh at people like RG.......a professional who KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY chooses to do something that he or she knows is wrong and still does it even though it impacts their life and job. It speaks volumes about his personality and quite possibly to this so-called "society" you referenced.

> > >

> > > What RG did was not being cool or hip - it's called being childish.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > Ferg that's just silly. No one made RG out to be cool for doing this. This is something you conjured up in that creative mind of yours.

> >

>

> It's not silly. By defending the smoke, he or she is saying it's cool to smoke. Isn't that what the "modern defense" of smoking weed is all about, being cool? Hey, look at us - we won....we can now smoke pot. Where is the goodness in harming oneself for a high?

>

> If he or she thinks smoking drugs is okay - he or she is saying that it's cool for RG to smoke and that he shouldn't be punished because the rules shouldn't apply to a pro golfer. In short, he or she is saying it's harmless when studies have shown it's not.

>

> Someone even referenced the Cheech and Chong movie - why? Another person joked of the munchies - why?

> Cause it's funny and cool to joke around about drug use.

>

> RG was irresponsible.

>

>

 

Ferg, do you drink alcohol? If so, do you ever feel a bit of it's impact in your head? Do you smoke cigs or cigars?

[MilkyButterCuts]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @RichieHunt said:

> > I'm all for the legalization of marijuana. Unfortunately, no major sports organization is going to take a stand and make it alright for its athletes to use marijuana. Particularly the PGA Tour which relies so heavily on sponsorship. It's just not going to happen. You would need for the legalization of marijuana in practically every state for that to happen. And that's going to be a while before that happens.

> >

> >

> >

> > RH

>

>

> Very true . If I know South Carolina. I’d bet we are 51st behind Puerto Rico to legalize it.

 

Utah has something to say

[Ferguson]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > @Ferguson said:

> > > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > > @Ferguson said:

> > > >

> > > > What bothers me the most (in cases such as this) is that people, in their defense of smoking weed, now make RG out to be cool or hip. I laugh at people like RG.......a professional who KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY chooses to do something that he or she knows is wrong and still does it even though it impacts their life and job. It speaks volumes about his personality and quite possibly to this so-called "society" you referenced.

> > > >

> > > > What RG did was not being cool or hip - it's called being childish.

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > Ferg that's just silly. No one made RG out to be cool for doing this. This is something you conjured up in that creative mind of yours.

> > >

> >

> > It's not silly. By defending the smoke, he or she is saying it's cool to smoke. Isn't that what the "modern defense" of smoking weed is all about, being cool? Hey, look at us - we won....we can now smoke pot. Where is the goodness in harming oneself for a high?

> >

> > If he or she thinks smoking drugs is okay - he or she is saying that it's cool for RG to smoke and that he shouldn't be punished because the rules shouldn't apply to a pro golfer. In short, he or she is saying it's harmless when studies have shown it's not.

> >

> > Someone even referenced the Cheech and Chong movie - why? Another person joked of the munchies - why?

> > Cause it's funny and cool to joke around about drug use.

> >

> > RG was irresponsible.

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> >

>

> Ferg, do you drink alcohol? If so, do you ever feel a bit of it's impact in your head? Do you smoke cigs or cigars?

 

Yes, I drink, but not regularly. And I never drink to excess.

Impact to my head? No.

I do not smoke but I like the smell of cigars and cigarettes.

[Pepperturbo]

> @"Birdie Mac" said:

> > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > @gvogel said:

> > > > @fowlerscousin said:

> > > > Golf is a sport where we can get away from potheads

> > >

> > > I have a very good friend, who is a wonderful player, mini tour player, shot his age at 70, and he enjoys a little Hounda, as he calls it. Probably a bit safer than whiskey.

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> > >

> > I have been a single malt sipper since the seventies, typically a dram or two per week. NO WAY smoking a joint is safer than sipping single malt. I don't sip to get drunk either but enjoy the whiskey profile. The people that I am familiar with that enjoy whiskey don't get drunk. However, when someone smokes a joint it is to get stoned. :beach:

> >

> I like a shot of bourbon every now and then. I haven't smoked in 30 years, in order to abide by the rules of the corporate world. Were I able to, I can assure you it wouldn't be to get stoned; it would only be to take the edge off. Much like I do with bourbon. You shouldn't be denied your single malt any more than the next guy should be denied his edible or joint.

>

>

 

A dram of Single Malt has no effect on me or anyone else that I know that enjoys single malt. Here in CA a few friends that smoke weed and medical colleagues have said a joint of today's medical weed is way stronger than what it used to be. I interpret that to mean smoking even half a joint has an effect on the body and mind. That said I have to wonder about one's judgment if someone needs to take the edge off after a hard day at work. I have a very high-pressure demanding job so opt for the gym instead...

 

I believe far too many people lack self-control, especially when faced with emotional trauma or physical challenges. It's those people that eventually misuse and face addiction. Supporting freedom of choice doesn't translate to healthy judgment. As bad off as Feherty was with alcohol and other drugs before quitting when his son died, he fell victim again...unable to cope. Though compassion is important, it's not always what people need. Its tough enough for them knowing alcohol is legal and they can get and abuse drugs from some doofus MD. Now they can get powerful weed, even grow it and smoke while driving or on lunch break at work. :neutral:

[MilkyButterCuts]

> @Pepperturbo said:

> > @gvogel said:

> > > @fowlerscousin said:

> > > Golf is a sport where we can get away from potheads

> >

> > I have a very good friend, who is a wonderful player, mini tour player, shot his age at 70, and he enjoys a little Hounda, as he calls it. Probably a bit safer than whiskey.

> >

> >

> I have been a single malt sipper since the seventies, typically a dram or two per week. **NO WAY smoking a joint is safer than sipping single malt.** I don't sip to get drunk either but enjoy the whiskey profile. The people that I am familiar with that enjoy whiskey don't get drunk. However, when someone smokes a joint it is to get stoned. :beach:

>

 

It's a proven scientific fact that what you just said is wrong. You don't have to like or support marijuana but don't say drinking whiskey is safer (which I presume refers to health) than smoking marijuana.

[Birdie Mac]

> @Pepperturbo said:

> > @"Birdie Mac" said:

> > > @Pepperturbo said:

> > > > @gvogel said:

> > > > > @fowlerscousin said:

> > > > > Golf is a sport where we can get away from potheads

> > > >

> > > > I have a very good friend, who is a wonderful player, mini tour player, shot his age at 70, and he enjoys a little Hounda, as he calls it. Probably a bit safer than whiskey.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > I have been a single malt sipper since the seventies, typically a dram or two per week. NO WAY smoking a joint is safer than sipping single malt. I don't sip to get drunk either but enjoy the whiskey profile. The people that I am familiar with that enjoy whiskey don't get drunk. However, when someone smokes a joint it is to get stoned. :beach:

> > >

> > I like a shot of bourbon every now and then. I haven't smoked in 30 years, in order to abide by the rules of the corporate world. Were I able to, I can assure you it wouldn't be to get stoned; it would only be to take the edge off. Much like I do with bourbon. You shouldn't be denied your single malt any more than the next guy should be denied his edible or joint.

> >

> >

>

> A dram of Single Malt has no effect on me or anyone else that I know that enjoys single malt. Here in CA a few friends that smoke weed and medical colleagues have said a joint of today's medical weed is way stronger than what it used to be. I interpret that to mean smoking even half a joint has an effect on the body and mind. That said I have to wonder about one's judgment if someone needs to take the edge off after a hard day at work. I have a very high-pressure demanding job so opt for the gym instead...

>

> I believe far too many people lack self-control, especially when faced with emotional trauma or physical challenges. It's those people that eventually misuse and face addiction. Supporting freedom of choice doesn't translate to healthy judgment. As bad off as Feherty was with alcohol and other drugs before quitting when his son died, he fell victim again...unable to cope. Though compassion is important, it's not always what people need. Its tough enough for them knowing alcohol is legal and they can get and abuse drugs from some doofus MD. Now they can get powerful weed, even grow it and smoke while driving or on lunch break at work. :neutral:

 

Not sure if you're trolling, but my judgment is excellent, thanks, and I also have a stressful job. Also, I don't believe a dram of whiskey has no effect on you at all or else you'd be drinking fruit juice. Is your single malt 20 proof?

 

 

[oiler45]

Exactly - I love it when drinkers lecture people on the evils of pot. If you drink booze or caffeine, in my opinion you have no basis to criticize marijuana. If you never drink or take any stimulant - fine - lecture away. And yes - you can smoke dope and not get stoned - a couple of tokes before bedtime or to unwind after work is NO different than a post-round beer or a dram of single malt.

[BNGL]

GolfWRX-The first place to come for debates on pot usage...pretty soon there will be cheech and snoop issues bongs on BST.

Regardless of where you fall on the spectrum it’s illegal according to PGA Tour policy, the players know that.

[MilkyButterCuts]

> @oiler45 said:

> Exactly - I love it when drinkers lecture people on the evils of pot. If you drink booze or caffeine, in my opinion you have no basis to criticize marijuana. If you never drink or take any stimulant - fine - lecture away. And yes - you can smoke dope and not get stoned - a couple of tokes before bedtime or to unwind after work is NO different than a post-round beer or a dram of single malt.

 

No way... a dram of single malt is "classy".

 

Weed is for lazy bums who live at their parents home. :D