Graphite Design Tour AD XC

[autronicdsm]


 


 


 

 

 

[gioguy21]

i dont speak...whatever that is.

 

low launch low spin?

[RonSwanson]

You have my attention.

[autronicdsm]

> @gioguy21 said:

> i dont speak...whatever that is.

>

> low launch low spin?

 

Whatever that is... :D

 

It's similar to BB but stiffer tip.

[Krt22]

I do not speak/read Japanese, but yes agree, stiffer tipped BB with a slightly higher balance point

[danman44]

left is draw biased.. right is fade biased.. top is high launch bottom is low launch... I see the PT and the QT on there also that we havent seen yet

[autronicdsm]

PT and QT are older shafts.

[jokerusn]

Interesting. Love the look. Not a shaft for me though.

 

Also, I found the DI to be more left leaning than the TP which against the graph. But I also launch "high" launching shafts lower than most "low" launching shafts so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[BearQ]

> @jokerusn said:

> Interesting. Love the look. Not a shaft for me though.

>

> Also, I found the DI to be more left leaning than the TP which against the graph. But I also launch "high" launching shafts lower than most "low" launching shafts so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

TP is supposed to be a tighter DI in the X flexes. Personally it’s been more fade bias as compared to the DI as well.

 

This shaft is intriguing but the lineup is getting crowded. That being said, their old models get far too much play to justify stopping production or removing them from their menu

 

[hardcaliber]

It’s an interesting debate that pops up once in a while as to whether a particular shaft can have an inherent right or left bias. It’s seem like most of the respected fitters usually say that it can’t, although all the Japanese companies seem to market shafts as left or right bias.

[markheardjr]

I want GD to make a shaft that goes as follows, Tip-Center-Butt, 5 - 3+ - 3 - 2 - 5. Essentially a GP lower half, but a newer upper half that is grip stiff, then soft flex-zone section, then the GP center to tip sections.

[RonSwanson]

From the Japan Graphite Design site. Translation is a little rough...

 

The "TOUR AD XC" series is a new shaft that makes the most of the distance-finding face structure that is the mainstream of wood today. By using the new material carbon trading card "M40X" in the tip to middle part and using tipping card "T1100G" at the tip, power loss at impact is reduced to the utmost limit and tip behavior is stabilized. The variation is reduced and as a result, the initial velocity of the ball is also improved.

From the middle part of the original tension system shaft to the hand part improves the operability, a strong bending back and acceleration feeling are obtained, and the head performance is directly converted to a ball with a stable behavior that can not lose a strong impact. Tell you.

 

 

[MysteryV]

On a recent trip to Japan I found myself walking down a dimly lit ally where I ran across an overly friendly woman who was doing some side work after her shift at a local snack bar. Long story short, fast forward a few days and I was eating horse pill sized antibiotics to treat my Chugengen condition, and doctors say I may never hit a cut again.

[puresurfr]

> @MysteryV said:

> On a recent trip to Japan I found myself walking down a dimly lit ally where I ran across an overly friendly woman who was doing some side work after her shift at a local snack bar. Long story short, fast forward a few days and I was eating horse pill sized antibiotics to treat my Chugengen condition, and doctors say I may never hit a cut again.

 

 

What ??????

 

[MysteryV]

See kick point on chart above. Obviously a joke, but really - wtf is a Chugengen Condition with relation to kick point?

[golfinguru11]

Hzrdus killer me thinks

[cj4501]

> @BearQ said:

> > @jokerusn said:

> > Interesting. Love the look. Not a shaft for me though.

> >

> > Also, I found the DI to be more left leaning than the TP which against the graph. But I also launch "high" launching shafts lower than most "low" launching shafts so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>

> TP is supposed to be a tighter DI in the X flexes. Personally it’s been more fade bias as compared to the DI as well.

>

> This shaft is intriguing but the lineup is getting crowded. That being said, their old models get far too much play to justify stopping production or removing them from their menu

>

 

I've kind of been interested in the TP , you think it definitely helps fades? I can't get off the left side to save my life with my atmos ts black 6s

[jokerusn]

> @cj4501 said:

> > @BearQ said:

> > > @jokerusn said:

> > > Interesting. Love the look. Not a shaft for me though.

> > >

> > > Also, I found the DI to be more left leaning than the TP which against the graph. But I also launch "high" launching shafts lower than most "low" launching shafts so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

> >

> > TP is supposed to be a tighter DI in the X flexes. Personally it’s been more fade bias as compared to the DI as well.

> >

> > This shaft is intriguing but the lineup is getting crowded. That being said, their old models get far too much play to justify stopping production or removing them from their menu

> >

>

> I've kind of been interested in the TP , you think it definitely helps fades? I can't get off the left side to save my life with my atmos ts black 6s

 

Helps eliminate fades or make fades? For me, it's been a very neutral shaft. I mostly draw the ball and it didn't make a fade but didn't smother hook it either. The one that really stopped the lefts for me is the Ventus. Unless I do something horrible in my swing, it's straight to baby fades all day.

 

[cj4501]

> @jokerusn said:

> > @cj4501 said:

> > > @BearQ said:

> > > > @jokerusn said:

> > > > Interesting. Love the look. Not a shaft for me though.

> > > >

> > > > Also, I found the DI to be more left leaning than the TP which against the graph. But I also launch "high" launching shafts lower than most "low" launching shafts so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

> > >

> > > TP is supposed to be a tighter DI in the X flexes. Personally it’s been more fade bias as compared to the DI as well.

> > >

> > > This shaft is intriguing but the lineup is getting crowded. That being said, their old models get far too much play to justify stopping production or removing them from their menu

> > >

> >

> > I've kind of been interested in the TP , you think it definitely helps fades? I can't get off the left side to save my life with my atmos ts black 6s

>

> Helps eliminate fades or make fades? For me, it's been a very neutral shaft. I mostly draw the ball and it didn't make a fade but didn't smother hook it either. The one that really stopped the lefts for me is the Ventus. Unless I do something horrible in my swing, it's straight to baby fades all day.

>

 

I've heard that about the ventus, I may need to get my hands on one of those. Yeah I'm left way more often than I like, baby fades sounds fantastic!

[ian-500]

When I first saw the title, this is what I saw; Graphite Design Tour AC/DC.....but I got Shot Down in Flames

\m/

[ian-500]

Actually, the shaft just shouts 'METAL!!!!' to me. I need one. Lol.

[Haloha]

Are these available in the USA now? or just Japan?

[RonSwanson]

I put in an order and was told it would release later this month.

[gioguy21]

> @RonSwanson said:

> I put in an order and was told it would release later this month.

 

i'll be followin - good stuff dood

[RonSwanson]

> @gioguy21 said:

> > @RonSwanson said:

> > I put in an order and was told it would release later this month.

>

> i'll be followin - good stuff dood

 

Really looking forward to this one. Will update once I get a ship date.

[bcflyguy1]

> @MysteryV said:

> On a recent trip to Japan I found myself walking down a dimly lit ally where I ran across an overly friendly woman who was doing some side work after her shift at a local snack bar. Long story short, fast forward a few days and I was eating horse pill sized antibiotics to treat my Chugengen condition, and doctors say I may never hit a cut again.

 

You sure you weren't in Korea and had a run-in with Songtan Sally? Air Force dudes who read this thread will know what I'm talking about. She's rather...aggressive.

 

[Lenny2]

Any of you GD fans that were playing them back in 2008 -2009 remember the 702 PM and 902 PM? I played the 902 in both my fairways but was entire bag was stolen and I’m wondering if anyone knows what the profile was? For sure the tip was on the softer side. I played them in a XX but only X was a retail offering. I love the above chart but I don’t know what to compare the 902 with on the chart. Green on the chart is soft and red stiff I’m guessing? Anyone who knows anything about the 902 please let me know. Thanks

[jmkenn0]

Not to completely sidetrack, but I didn't realize shafts could have a left or right bias? Cause my AD DI sure doesn't fade the ball, but every now and then I'll throw in a big ol' hook - maybe its on backwards :smile: ?

[RonSwanson]

> @RonSwanson said:

> > @gioguy21 said:

> > > @RonSwanson said:

> > > I put in an order and was told it would release later this month.

> >

> > i'll be followin - good stuff dood

>

> Really looking forward to this one. Will update once I get a ship date.

 

Well, got an email that the retailer I purchased from that they can not ship GD shafts as component only and my order has been cancelled...

 

Haven't decided on the next move yet.

[RonSwanson]

Also, these are the first full length photos I have seen. I prefer the tried and true graphics over this new look.