Driver to ? to ? to 4 iron

[asKaasa]

Hi all

 

Edit: Being a metric guy, my ball swing math was off.

Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 carry with my 7 iron (35 degrees).

 

I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

 

The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

 

How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

 

 

Thanks!

[setter02]

You have to play your bad swings as well as good... That said, I've been a 16*-16.5* 4wd (it's a 4wd, stop calling it a 3hl) player and 19*-20* hybrid player for a couple years and then first iron is a 4i (save for this year as a rotating experiment with the Dhy or 4i). Gives me the gapping I need, easier to elevate and land softer with the 4 wd and still have a relatively penetrating hybrid for off the tee as well. I also hit a number of 4i off the tee as one of the courses I play has quite a few short par 4's (310-320ish range). So this set up gives me what I need without ever feeling 'gee, I wish I had this club/loft'.

[spk7]

I personally carry a 3 wood and 18 hybrid to fill the gap between driver and 4 iron

[JoeFrigo]

Id say ditch the 3w. at 160 ball speed with driver (assuming its straight) distance shouldn't be an issue ever. Theres probably very few times you would need a 3w. Even off the tee with your 5w you should hit it 240-250 yds. If you can get on a monitor then check your gapping, My 19* 5w carries 245 with higher launch, and my 18* utility carries 230

[StevenGlenn]

I dropped my 3w and went with a 2 driving iron then regular 3 iron

[macedan]

Personally I have always played 3 Wood 5 wood. With my driver swing speed right around 100 I can't really impart enough force on the ball with a 2 iron to get ideal distances with that loft and club characteristic.....nor is my ball striking where it needs to be. 5 wood fits the bill perfect for me and generates enough spin to hold longer approaches into greens. I increased my 3W loft 1* to 16* and find it helps with my carry distance by a few yards while achieving similar roll out.

[jvincent]

Like a lot of people, I play a 4w (16*) and a 3-utility.

[Z1ggy16]

> @asKaasa said:

> Hi all

>

> Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 ball speed with a driver and **110 ball speed with a 7 iron.**

>

> I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

>

> The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

>

> How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

>

>

> Thanks!

 

RE: Bolded part. 110 ball speed with 7i considering 160 ball speed with driver seems a touch low. Roughly speaking that's like a driver SS of 108 but a 7i of only 82. Seems something weird is going on you may want to look at before you mess about with the bag too much.

 

I wouldn't base your bag off your worst shot or your best possible, but your likely average distance on good contact. Bad strikes happen but at a 10HC, you should be making good contact much more often than bad contact. Consider ditching the 3w and 5w, and getting a 4w, or ditch the 5w and loft your 3w up fully and cut about .75'' or even 1'' off it for increased control and better strike.

[asKaasa]

> @Z1ggy16 said:

> > @asKaasa said:

> > Hi all

> >

> > Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 ball speed with a driver and **110 ball speed with a 7 iron.**

> >

> > I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

> >

> > The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

> >

> > How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

> >

> >

> > Thanks!

>

> RE: Bolded part. 110 ball speed with 7i considering 160 ball speed with driver seems a touch low. Roughly speaking that's like a driver SS of 108 but a 7i of only 82. Seems something weird is going on you may want to look at before you mess about with the bag too much.

>

> I wouldn't base your bag off your worst shot or your best possible, but your likely average distance on good contact. Bad strikes happen but at a 10HC, you should be making good contact much more often than bad contact. Consider ditching the 3w and 5w, and getting a 4w, or ditch the 5w and loft your 3w up fully and cut about .75'' or even 1'' off it for increased control and better strike.

 

Thanks everyone for your feedback!

 

Yup, iron game isn't at the top at the moment and driver has always been my best club / swing.

7 iron carry is 160 yards or so.

 

My thought was to loft down the 5w as much as possible (17) to keep a short shaft length and keep my 19 hybrid.

[asKaasa]

Ups! Being a metric guy, my math is off! 147 mph driver ball speed!

[Z1ggy16]

> @asKaasa said:

> > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > @asKaasa said:

> > > Hi all

> > >

> > > Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 ball speed with a driver and **110 ball speed with a 7 iron.**

> > >

> > > I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

> > >

> > > The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

> > >

> > > How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> >

> > RE: Bolded part. 110 ball speed with 7i considering 160 ball speed with driver seems a touch low. Roughly speaking that's like a driver SS of 108 but a 7i of only 82. Seems something weird is going on you may want to look at before you mess about with the bag too much.

> >

> > I wouldn't base your bag off your worst shot or your best possible, but your likely average distance on good contact. Bad strikes happen but at a 10HC, you should be making good contact much more often than bad contact. Consider ditching the 3w and 5w, and getting a 4w, or ditch the 5w and loft your 3w up fully and cut about .75'' or even 1'' off it for increased control and better strike.

>

> Thanks everyone for your feedback!

>

> Yup, iron game isn't at the top at the moment and driver has always been my best club / swing.

> 7 iron carry is 160 yards or so.

>

> My thought was to loft down the 5w as much as possible (17) to keep a short shaft length and keep my 19 hybrid.

 

Sounds like you may have strong lofted irons? 160 carry on a 7i but 147 mph ball on driver still sounds a little off lol but anyway, to address your most recent statement: Sounds okay, that's essentially the same thing as lofting a 3w up. Just keep in mind when you loft down.. you open the face so unless you need that, be sure to "square it up" at address. Vice versa for when you loft up.

[asKaasa]

> @Z1ggy16 said:

> > @asKaasa said:

> > > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > Hi all

> > > >

> > > > Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 ball speed with a driver and **110 ball speed with a 7 iron.**

> > > >

> > > > I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

> > > >

> > > > The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

> > > >

> > > > How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > RE: Bolded part. 110 ball speed with 7i considering 160 ball speed with driver seems a touch low. Roughly speaking that's like a driver SS of 108 but a 7i of only 82. Seems something weird is going on you may want to look at before you mess about with the bag too much.

> > >

> > > I wouldn't base your bag off your worst shot or your best possible, but your likely average distance on good contact. Bad strikes happen but at a 10HC, you should be making good contact much more often than bad contact. Consider ditching the 3w and 5w, and getting a 4w, or ditch the 5w and loft your 3w up fully and cut about .75'' or even 1'' off it for increased control and better strike.

> >

> > Thanks everyone for your feedback!

> >

> > Yup, iron game isn't at the top at the moment and driver has always been my best club / swing.

> > 7 iron carry is 160 yards or so.

> >

> > My thought was to loft down the 5w as much as possible (17) to keep a short shaft length and keep my 19 hybrid.

>

> Sounds like you may have strong lofted irons? 160 carry on a 7i but 147 mph ball on driver still sounds a little off lol but anyway, to address your most recent statement: Sounds okay, that's essentially the same thing as lofting a 3w up. Just keep in mind when you loft down.. you open the face so unless you need that, be sure to "square it up" at address. Vice versa for when you loft up.

 

Thanks again! Speed numbers might be off, its been a while since I checked.

Playing traditional lofts, 7 iron at 35.

[asKaasa]

> @Z1ggy16 said:

> > @asKaasa said:

> > > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > Hi all

> > > >

> > > > Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 ball speed with a driver and **110 ball speed with a 7 iron.**

> > > >

> > > > I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

> > > >

> > > > The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

> > > >

> > > > How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks!

> > >

> > > RE: Bolded part. 110 ball speed with 7i considering 160 ball speed with driver seems a touch low. Roughly speaking that's like a driver SS of 108 but a 7i of only 82. Seems something weird is going on you may want to look at before you mess about with the bag too much.

> > >

> > > I wouldn't base your bag off your worst shot or your best possible, but your likely average distance on good contact. Bad strikes happen but at a 10HC, you should be making good contact much more often than bad contact. Consider ditching the 3w and 5w, and getting a 4w, or ditch the 5w and loft your 3w up fully and cut about .75'' or even 1'' off it for increased control and better strike.

> >

> > Thanks everyone for your feedback!

> >

> > Yup, iron game isn't at the top at the moment and driver has always been my best club / swing.

> > 7 iron carry is 160 yards or so.

> >

> > My thought was to loft down the 5w as much as possible (17) to keep a short shaft length and keep my 19 hybrid.

>

> Sounds like you may have strong lofted irons? 160 carry on a 7i but 147 mph ball on driver still sounds a little off lol but anyway, to address your most recent statement: Sounds okay, that's essentially the same thing as lofting a 3w up. Just keep in mind when you loft down.. you open the face so unless you need that, be sure to "square it up" at address. Vice versa for when you loft up.

 

 

Could also check out setting the 5W at 17 in draw I guess?

[Z1ggy16]

> @asKaasa said:

> > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > > Hi all

> > > > >

> > > > > Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 ball speed with a driver and **110 ball speed with a 7 iron.**

> > > > >

> > > > > I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

> > > > >

> > > > > The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

> > > > >

> > > > > How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > RE: Bolded part. 110 ball speed with 7i considering 160 ball speed with driver seems a touch low. Roughly speaking that's like a driver SS of 108 but a 7i of only 82. Seems something weird is going on you may want to look at before you mess about with the bag too much.

> > > >

> > > > I wouldn't base your bag off your worst shot or your best possible, but your likely average distance on good contact. Bad strikes happen but at a 10HC, you should be making good contact much more often than bad contact. Consider ditching the 3w and 5w, and getting a 4w, or ditch the 5w and loft your 3w up fully and cut about .75'' or even 1'' off it for increased control and better strike.

> > >

> > > Thanks everyone for your feedback!

> > >

> > > Yup, iron game isn't at the top at the moment and driver has always been my best club / swing.

> > > 7 iron carry is 160 yards or so.

> > >

> > > My thought was to loft down the 5w as much as possible (17) to keep a short shaft length and keep my 19 hybrid.

> >

> > Sounds like you may have strong lofted irons? 160 carry on a 7i but 147 mph ball on driver still sounds a little off lol but anyway, to address your most recent statement: Sounds okay, that's essentially the same thing as lofting a 3w up. Just keep in mind when you loft down.. you open the face so unless you need that, be sure to "square it up" at address. Vice versa for when you loft up.

>

> Thanks again! Speed numbers might be off, its been a while since I checked.

> Playing traditional lofts, 7 iron at 35.

 

Ah, so then... it's a driver issue? haha it's off topic so I'll leave that alone.

> @asKaasa said:

> > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > > Hi all

> > > > >

> > > > > Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 ball speed with a driver and **110 ball speed with a 7 iron.**

> > > > >

> > > > > I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

> > > > >

> > > > > The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

> > > > >

> > > > > How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > >

> > > > RE: Bolded part. 110 ball speed with 7i considering 160 ball speed with driver seems a touch low. Roughly speaking that's like a driver SS of 108 but a 7i of only 82. Seems something weird is going on you may want to look at before you mess about with the bag too much.

> > > >

> > > > I wouldn't base your bag off your worst shot or your best possible, but your likely average distance on good contact. Bad strikes happen but at a 10HC, you should be making good contact much more often than bad contact. Consider ditching the 3w and 5w, and getting a 4w, or ditch the 5w and loft your 3w up fully and cut about .75'' or even 1'' off it for increased control and better strike.

> > >

> > > Thanks everyone for your feedback!

> > >

> > > Yup, iron game isn't at the top at the moment and driver has always been my best club / swing.

> > > 7 iron carry is 160 yards or so.

> > >

> > > My thought was to loft down the 5w as much as possible (17) to keep a short shaft length and keep my 19 hybrid.

> >

> > Sounds like you may have strong lofted irons? 160 carry on a 7i but 147 mph ball on driver still sounds a little off lol but anyway, to address your most recent statement: Sounds okay, that's essentially the same thing as lofting a 3w up. Just keep in mind when you loft down.. you open the face so unless you need that, be sure to "square it up" at address. Vice versa for when you loft up.

>

>

> Could also check out setting the 5W at 17 in draw I guess?

 

You'll have to experiment. Draw setting on the hosel just means the club will sit more upright. Since I already hit draws I would almost never use that setting because it will just make my ball curve even more... I usually want the opposite. It will totally depend on your swing.

 

But I would suggest trying both things: Loft your 3w up for a few rounds, see how that goes and loft the 5w down for a few rounds, see how that goes. What I've seen in my own game from lofting my 3w from 14.5 to 16* is that I get more height and only a little less distance... but lofting the hybrid down didn't give me much more distance for whatever reason but my height did come down. Suspect shaft length is part of the reason.

[asKaasa]

> @Z1ggy16 said:

> > @asKaasa said:

> > > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > > > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > > > Hi all

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 ball speed with a driver and **110 ball speed with a 7 iron.**

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks!

> > > > >

> > > > > RE: Bolded part. 110 ball speed with 7i considering 160 ball speed with driver seems a touch low. Roughly speaking that's like a driver SS of 108 but a 7i of only 82. Seems something weird is going on you may want to look at before you mess about with the bag too much.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wouldn't base your bag off your worst shot or your best possible, but your likely average distance on good contact. Bad strikes happen but at a 10HC, you should be making good contact much more often than bad contact. Consider ditching the 3w and 5w, and getting a 4w, or ditch the 5w and loft your 3w up fully and cut about .75'' or even 1'' off it for increased control and better strike.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks everyone for your feedback!

> > > >

> > > > Yup, iron game isn't at the top at the moment and driver has always been my best club / swing.

> > > > 7 iron carry is 160 yards or so.

> > > >

> > > > My thought was to loft down the 5w as much as possible (17) to keep a short shaft length and keep my 19 hybrid.

> > >

> > > Sounds like you may have strong lofted irons? 160 carry on a 7i but 147 mph ball on driver still sounds a little off lol but anyway, to address your most recent statement: Sounds okay, that's essentially the same thing as lofting a 3w up. Just keep in mind when you loft down.. you open the face so unless you need that, be sure to "square it up" at address. Vice versa for when you loft up.

> >

> > Thanks again! Speed numbers might be off, its been a while since I checked.

> > Playing traditional lofts, 7 iron at 35.

>

> Ah, so then... it's a driver issue? haha it's off topic so I'll leave that alone.

> > @asKaasa said:

> > > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > > @Z1ggy16 said:

> > > > > > @asKaasa said:

> > > > > > Hi all

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Short about my golf state: Currently at 10 hcp with 160 ball speed with a driver and **110 ball speed with a 7 iron.**

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am pondering a lot these days about how / what to fill in between my driver and 4 iron (22). Using GW, SW and LW, I got room for 2 clubs between the driver and 4 iron. I got a Epic Flash 3w (adjustable 14 - 17) and 5w (adjustable 17 - 20), Ping G 3 (19) and 4 (22) hybrid and just sold my Srixon U85 3 iron (20 degrees, that just did not feel good at adress).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The latest years I've been playing driver, 3 wood, 3 hybrid and 4 iron. BUT this season I've noticed the carry on my 3 and 5 woods to be very similar and the 5 wood is easier to hit from the deck. Therefore I am considering ditching the 3 wood for the 5 wood, but on the other side I am then in fear of the bad strikes on the 5 wood being too close to my 3 hybrid and also the 5 wood being a little short off the tee.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How do you guys set up this end of your bag, and why?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks!

> > > > >

> > > > > RE: Bolded part. 110 ball speed with 7i considering 160 ball speed with driver seems a touch low. Roughly speaking that's like a driver SS of 108 but a 7i of only 82. Seems something weird is going on you may want to look at before you mess about with the bag too much.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wouldn't base your bag off your worst shot or your best possible, but your likely average distance on good contact. Bad strikes happen but at a 10HC, you should be making good contact much more often than bad contact. Consider ditching the 3w and 5w, and getting a 4w, or ditch the 5w and loft your 3w up fully and cut about .75'' or even 1'' off it for increased control and better strike.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks everyone for your feedback!

> > > >

> > > > Yup, iron game isn't at the top at the moment and driver has always been my best club / swing.

> > > > 7 iron carry is 160 yards or so.

> > > >

> > > > My thought was to loft down the 5w as much as possible (17) to keep a short shaft length and keep my 19 hybrid.

> > >

> > > Sounds like you may have strong lofted irons? 160 carry on a 7i but 147 mph ball on driver still sounds a little off lol but anyway, to address your most recent statement: Sounds okay, that's essentially the same thing as lofting a 3w up. Just keep in mind when you loft down.. you open the face so unless you need that, be sure to "square it up" at address. Vice versa for when you loft up.

> >

> >

> > Could also check out setting the 5W at 17 in draw I guess?

>

> You'll have to experiment. Draw setting on the hosel just means the club will sit more upright. Since I already hit draws I would almost never use that setting because it will just make my ball curve even more... I usually want the opposite. It will totally depend on your swing.

>

> But I would suggest trying both things: Loft your 3w up for a few rounds, see how that goes and loft the 5w down for a few rounds, see how that goes. What I've seen in my own game from lofting my 3w from 14.5 to 16* is that I get more height and only a little less distance... but lofting the hybrid down didn't give me much more distance for whatever reason but my height did come down. Suspect shaft length is part of the reason.

 

Thanks again! I'll do some testing, good advise.

Realize I really need to check my numbers asap.

[manima1]

I go 4W to 2 driving iron to 4 iron. Similar ballspeed numbers.

 

I hit the 2 driving iron so well that I rarely hit the 4W, but it is still a must-have as it fills the fairly large gap between the 2 iron and the driver. I just frankly don't see many 260-280y shots on the course. Anything just below is a 2 iron and anything that can go further (off the tee) is a driver.

[James the Hogan Fan]

1-iron, 2-iron, 3-iron, problem solved.

 

I kid.

 

I’m playing a driver, 15° 3w and 18° 5w right now. (And a 3 iron because of a 2-wedge setup, but it’s basically a decorative garnish except for some very specific shots at some local courses.) We have almost identical ball speeds (and my 7-iron goes 165ish)

 

The gapping works out very well between them. The 3w is 50/50 tee/deck and the 5w is more 25/75. 3w goes less than driver but rolls out more than 5w although the carries are similar.

 

Anyway based on your post, I’m saying keep the 3w at 15° (Or take to 14°) and de-loft the 5w to 19 or 20°. I’m trying to build a larger gap there, while also bringing your 5w closer to your 4i overall. Your 3w becomes primarily a tee club. Your 5w becomes your general purpose long off the deck club, hopefully acceptably gapped to your 4i.

[gvogel]

4-wood, 7-wood. You'll thank me in a few years.

[matchavez]

A couple things... first, you need a club that you can hit consistently. If that's a 3, 5, DI, whatever... you need an advancement club.

 

Second, a 3 wood will roll out, where a 5 wood will spin and stop. If you're getting the same distances, you've got something going on that is amiss. Maybe you're just confident with that 5 wood.

 

Finally, the reason you stop at a 4-iron and not play a 3 is you can't elevate a 3-iron enough. Smart play. That's the nice part about a 19h; it's versatile, and it can "rescue" you in a lot of odd situations.

 

If it were me, I'd _take the shaft out of the 5, play it in the 3w head_, then I'd play the 19h or if you play in windy conditions, get a "chunky" low-flying iron for rollout. (Remember, those chunky 'driving' irons are not stop and holds.)

[httr]

The 5 wood shaft in a 3 wood head is a darn good idea. Well played sir.

[SUPERG]

3hl or 4 wood (I play 16.8 loft) then I have a 19 degree hybrid cranked up to 21 to play closer to a true 3 iron. That covers most of it, most times you won't be 200 plus away from a par 4 anyhow so I don't ever worry TOO MUCH about the shot. par 5's in 2 are simple 265 to 240 grab the wood. 230 to 245 grab the hybrid.

[mootrail]

Selling a Srixon U is almost sacrilegious and overthinking is overrated. 3 & 5 wood about the same distance? Dump the 3 and keep the 5. 5 wood too close to 3 hybrid? Keep the 5 and stop obsessing. Add your 4 hybrid and you're done.

 

My setup will probably not help you. I like to carry a second tee option which is an Original One Mini Driver and I'll swap in a U45 20° for either the mini or my driver on tighter and/or shorter courses. My 5 wood is next; not as long as a 3, but much easier to hit and I still have the Mini option if I have the perfect lie. I like to carry both a 4 & 5 hybrid which means I have to sacrifice my 5 iron and I haven't had a set 4 iron in ions.

[GMR2iron]

Currently, I go Driver, 3 wood, 3 iron, 4 iron....

[chadly643]

I go driver/14* 3w/19* hybrid/24* 4i.

 

The 3w is used 90% of the time off the tee. If I can’t reach a green with my hybrid I’m laying up 90% of the time. It’s great to have a second option off the tee when the driver doesn’t seem to want to cooperate or the fairway narrows considerably down range.

 

I have hit driving irons but I see no advantage to them over a hybrid and the hybrids retain ball speed on mis-hits better.

 

This decision is soo personal preference driven. There isn’t a wrong answer and a launch monitor can’t really tell you the best option for you and your game on the courses you usually play. Take the ideas guys give here, figure out which combo gives you confidence, and go with that.

[pencilholder]

Good thread, OP. I have messed with this part of my bag way too many times, but I like where I’ve landed for the past 2 seasons. I go driver 4w 7w. Had a 17 degree hybrid but the 7w is so much easier to hit for me. 4i after that.

[ChipNRun]

> @pencilholder said:

> Good thread, OP. I have messed with this part of my bag way too many times, but I like where I’ve landed for the past 2 seasons. I go driver 4w 7w. Had a 17 degree hybrid but the 7w is so much easier to hit for me. 4i after that.

 

I am in season #8 of Driver + 4W + 7W. Many people find the 7W as a highly versatile: comes out of the rough like a rocket, and can give some bit on fairway approaches and longish par 3 holes. Also good off of tee on supertight holes.

 

Note: If you adjust your current FWs to 17* and 20*, you will be at max loft. It's possible you'll get a slight draw bias out of this.

[jbrunk]

Keep them all, choose clubs to attack specific courses with a given set of conditions.

 

In general, 3W 3Hy 4i is probably the most consistent gapping, for you, probably what, 240y 215y 190y? The Epic Flash 3W is like a 2nd driver, low spin & rolls for days, so that would be my first one to go. UNLESS it’s hardpan & windy on a links style course, then you’ll want that on a half dozen or more tee shots. Parkland course with soft conditions, power up with 3W 3Hy. If there’s 3-4 holes where driver brings too much risk into play, measure out the widest part of the fairway, and carry something that hits it. If you’ve got a 225y par 3, you’ll want that 5W. Sometimes I’ll check wind direction against par 3s before going out.

 

Do you have any particular weaknesses at a given range? I’m pretty terrible from 180-185y, so I need a 4Hy I can launch high and land soft. Just added back in my G 22° 4Hy and made 2 pars yesterday from that range. But if you’re consistent with your 4i, keep it and count your blessings. I have to bounce back and forth between hybrids with heavier & lighter shafts depending on what my swing is doing.

 

Ultimately, there may be days you’ll want 3W 5W 3Hy or 3W 3Hy 4Hy. Have the flexibility on the other side of the bag to get by with GW SW or SW LW when necessary. Play some minimal rounds with 6-8 clubs, it can help boost your creativity and resiliency.

 

Just my 2¢, cheers!

[Merlin_13]

FWIW- I have the following set up and it seems to work really well for me: Driver is 10.5(adjustable) Strong 4 wood(16*) 3 Hybrid(20*) I have a 4 Hybrid (23*) where your 4I is.

[jah7838]

I go F6 Baffler see to 16.5*, 19* Adams XTD Super Hybrid, and 23* Adams Super 9031. Then I go 5 iron all the way down to my 58*. It covers everything from 230 yards and below.

[pmadden86]

Driver

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16.5 MP Fli Hi (2i)

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JPX 900 F 21 (4i)