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So i picked up a awesome G410 LST 3 wood on the BST.. I was jst about to build it with my preferred shaft, but I noticed in the dry fitting it still looks very closed like most Ping Fairway woods.. The bigger issue is, in the big "+" setting it is even more closed which stinks as I was hoping to play this as a 16* 4 wood.. I should know better and stop trying to find the next holy grail against my F8+ 4 wood which is a bomber in ever condition played..

 

Anyway.. is this a Ping thing? Are there fairway woods just more shut or closed than others?

 

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I feel the same way about my cobra F9. I am struggling to find a fairway wood I like right now. I have my eye kinda on the mizuno st190 TS.. It looks the best I think.

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> @QuigleyDU said:

> I feel the same way about my cobra F9. I am struggling to find a fairway wood I like right now. I have my eye kinda on the mizuno st190 TS.. It looks the best I think.

 

Oh wow, I havent seen it yet but the F9 is more closed than the F8+? Damn that sucks.. I thought maybe that would be my next test.. But man the F8+ is a awesome.. Dont know why I keep looking.. Im a hoe at heart lol

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*3 IRON - Swap in out with Hybrid depending on conditions (still searching)

4 IRON - ZXi5 - 4 Iron - TI DGX100

5-P - ZXi7 - TI DGX100

WEDGES - SM10 RAW - 50/54/60 - TI DGS400

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> @giogolf said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > I feel the same way about my cobra F9. I am struggling to find a fairway wood I like right now. I have my eye kinda on the mizuno st190 TS.. It looks the best I think.

>

> Oh wow, I havent seen it yet but the F9 is more closed than the F8+? **** that sucks.. I thought maybe that would be my next test.. But man the F8+ is a awesome.. Dont know why I keep looking.. Im a hoe at heart lol

 

I don't know if it is more closed or not. I just look at it and get all screwed up mentally.

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Did you try dry fitting at the highest loft on the flat setting? Mine seems to set up pretty square when I sole it. Then again, If you’re used to looking at something pretty open then look at something square, it’s gonna look a little shut.

 

I’ll tell you this much, Phil would love it because it hits high bombs at 14.5. You should build it up and give it a go. Or try and find a lefty adapter.

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> @pollock21 said:

> Did you try dry fitting at the highest loft on the flat setting? Mine seems to set up pretty square when I sole it. Then again, If you’re used to looking at something pretty open then look at something square, it’s gonna look a little shut.

>

> I’ll tell you this much, Phil would love it because it hits high bombs at 14.5. You should build it up and give it a go. Or try and find a lefty adapter.

 

What would the lefty adapter do? No I didn't try it in the flat setting.. Ill play with it tonight before building it

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*3 IRON - Swap in out with Hybrid depending on conditions (still searching)

4 IRON - ZXi5 - 4 Iron - TI DGX100

5-P - ZXi7 - TI DGX100

WEDGES - SM10 RAW - 50/54/60 - TI DGS400

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> @balls_deep said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > I feel the same way about my cobra F9. I am struggling to find a fairway wood I like right now. I have my eye kinda on the mizuno st190 TS.. It looks the best I think.

>

> 917/TS2 set down to 15.75 and flat - money.

 

starting with a 16.5 head or 15*

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*3 IRON - Swap in out with Hybrid depending on conditions (still searching)

4 IRON - ZXi5 - 4 Iron - TI DGX100

5-P - ZXi7 - TI DGX100

WEDGES - SM10 RAW - 50/54/60 - TI DGS400

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> @giogolf said:

> > @balls_deep said:

> > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > I feel the same way about my cobra F9. I am struggling to find a fairway wood I like right now. I have my eye kinda on the mizuno st190 TS.. It looks the best I think.

> >

> > 917/TS2 set down to 15.75 and flat - money.

>

> starting with a 16.5 head or 15*

 

This!!

 

Got my ts3 16.5 and in the C1 setting (flat and -.75 in loft) best 3 wood I have ever hit! Will never leave the bag!

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> @balls_deep said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > I feel the same way about my cobra F9. I am struggling to find a fairway wood I like right now. I have my eye kinda on the mizuno st190 TS.. It looks the best I think.

>

> 917/TS2 set down to 15.75 and flat - money.

 

I am thinking about that. I just don’t want to spend more money....

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> @Kale_m said:

> > @giogolf said:

> > > @balls_deep said:

> > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > I feel the same way about my cobra F9. I am struggling to find a fairway wood I like right now. I have my eye kinda on the mizuno st190 TS.. It looks the best I think.

> > >

> > > 917/TS2 set down to 15.75 and flat - money.

> >

> > starting with a 16.5 head or 15*

>

> This!!

>

> Got my ts3 16.5 and in the C1 setting (flat and -.75 in loft) best 3 wood I have ever hit! Will never leave the bag!

 

Been thinking about this same set up. Hows the evenflow white?

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> @YoungJedi said:

> Any time you go up in loft, it shuts the face

> When you go down in loft, it opens the face

>

> Try a 5 wood, with a 3/4 wood length shaft, and go down in loft. Will be same thing with face angle you prefer

 

just for reference, also had the 17.5 g410 5 wood before this and sold it.. because even cranked down 1.5* it was still shut.. Now the LST isn't as bad, but it still looks closed 1* to my eye..

I'm going to tape it up and hit it today.. if it doesn't behave.. it will be on the BST by midnight tonight lol

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> @danielwkelliher said:

> > @Kale_m said:

> > > @giogolf said:

> > > > @balls_deep said:

> > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > I feel the same way about my cobra F9. I am struggling to find a fairway wood I like right now. I have my eye kinda on the mizuno st190 TS.. It looks the best I think.

> > > >

> > > > 917/TS2 set down to 15.75 and flat - money.

> > >

> > > starting with a 16.5 head or 15*

> >

> > This!!

> >

> > Got my ts3 16.5 and in the C1 setting (flat and -.75 in loft) best 3 wood I have ever hit! Will never leave the bag!

>

> Been thinking about this same set up. Hows the evenflow white?

 

Love the evenflow white. I swing the driver at 122mph. Holds up great for me!

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> @Kale_m said:

> > @danielwkelliher said:

> > > @Kale_m said:

> > > > @giogolf said:

> > > > > @balls_deep said:

> > > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > > I feel the same way about my cobra F9. I am struggling to find a fairway wood I like right now. I have my eye kinda on the mizuno st190 TS.. It looks the best I think.

> > > > >

> > > > > 917/TS2 set down to 15.75 and flat - money.

> > > >

> > > > starting with a 16.5 head or 15*

> > >

> > > This!!

> > >

> > > Got my ts3 16.5 and in the C1 setting (flat and -.75 in loft) best 3 wood I have ever hit! Will never leave the bag!

> >

> > Been thinking about this same set up. Hows the evenflow white?

>

> Love the evenflow white. I swing the driver at 122mph. Holds up great for me!

 

Thanks!

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so it looks like it's going to be a keeper.. not what I expected.. set at flat minus 1* it's playing square off the tee.. anyway.. very consistent ball flight.. much more penetrating than my f8+.. can hit it left and right.. definitely a fade bias which is what I want so misses will be hard to hit left.. off the turf this thing rocks.. I thought the f8+ was great off the fairway but this thing goes.. let's see if the honey moon last.. I'll keep it taped up just in case it's short lived :)

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4 WOOD - Qi10 3hl 16.5* - Evenflow Riptide LX 70 Proto TX

3 HYBRID - G430 20* - Fuji Pro Tour Spec 115i TX

*3 IRON - Swap in out with Hybrid depending on conditions (still searching)

4 IRON - ZXi5 - 4 Iron - TI DGX100

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Mine sat closed also. Sent it back. I couldn’t hit it because I couldn’t look at it.

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> @boggyman said:

> I’ve got the regular 3 wood in the 410 and it looks closed in stock setting also. I opened it to most open position, it helped! Ever think of trying the 5 wood and opening it??

 

I did.. I had the 5 wood and sold it before using it on the course.. Stupid me, because what I am realizing is sitting it on my hardwood floor it looks closed.. but on the tee box and fairway it sits perfect

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4 WOOD - Qi10 3hl 16.5* - Evenflow Riptide LX 70 Proto TX

3 HYBRID - G430 20* - Fuji Pro Tour Spec 115i TX

*3 IRON - Swap in out with Hybrid depending on conditions (still searching)

4 IRON - ZXi5 - 4 Iron - TI DGX100

5-P - ZXi7 - TI DGX100

WEDGES - SM10 RAW - 50/54/60 - TI DGS400

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?? > @giogolf said:

> > @boggyman said:

> > I’ve got the regular 3 wood in the 410 and it looks closed in stock setting also. I opened it to most open position, it helped! Ever think of trying the 5 wood and opening it??

>

> I did.. I had the 5 wood and sold it before using it on the course.. Stupid me, because what I am realizing is sitting it on my hardwood floor it looks closed.. but on the tee box and fairway it sits perfect

 

 

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> @boggyman said:

> ?? > @giogolf said:

> > > @boggyman said:

> > > I’ve got the regular 3 wood in the 410 and it looks closed in stock setting also. I opened it to most open position, it helped! Ever think of trying the 5 wood and opening it??

> >

> > I did.. I had the 5 wood and sold it before using it on the course.. Stupid me, because what I am realizing is sitting it on my hardwood floor it looks closed.. but on the tee box and fairway it sits perfect

>

>

 

life of a club ho.. lol

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DRIVER - GT2 9* - Evenflow Riptide LX 60 Proto TX

4 WOOD - Qi10 3hl 16.5* - Evenflow Riptide LX 70 Proto TX

3 HYBRID - G430 20* - Fuji Pro Tour Spec 115i TX

*3 IRON - Swap in out with Hybrid depending on conditions (still searching)

4 IRON - ZXi5 - 4 Iron - TI DGX100

5-P - ZXi7 - TI DGX100

WEDGES - SM10 RAW - 50/54/60 - TI DGS400

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Indeed. Been there done that myself. > @giogolf said:

> > @boggyman said:

> > ?? > @giogolf said:

> > > > @boggyman said:

> > > > I’ve got the regular 3 wood in the 410 and it looks closed in stock setting also. I opened it to most open position, it helped! Ever think of trying the 5 wood and opening it??

> > >

> > > I did.. I had the 5 wood and sold it before using it on the course.. Stupid me, because what I am realizing is sitting it on my hardwood floor it looks closed.. but on the tee box and fairway it sits perfect

> >

> >

>

> life of a club ho.. lol

 

 

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The one i owned sat closed as well. GROSS

EPIC Flash sits very open

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I have to rotate the club square at address. My old RBZ sits about 5º closed... if I let it.

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Got a 410 lst 3 wood head coming, hope it doesn't sit closed.

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I've bought a couple now, but both sat closed, and I've dumped them both. I'm really disappointed in this with PING. I would have thought the standard 410 3w would have been the one to set more closed vs. the lst version. That said, I have settled on a standard 410 3w, that sits wide open, and I'm killing it. That's not to say the hunt won't continue for that one lst that sits square to open.

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Just don't do what I did with my other one and sell it before hitting it.. the fade bias removes any issue with the face appearing closed.. also setting it down on the turf and then gripping it makes all the difference.. so far the honeymoon continues

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DRIVER - GT2 9* - Evenflow Riptide LX 60 Proto TX

4 WOOD - Qi10 3hl 16.5* - Evenflow Riptide LX 70 Proto TX

3 HYBRID - G430 20* - Fuji Pro Tour Spec 115i TX

*3 IRON - Swap in out with Hybrid depending on conditions (still searching)

4 IRON - ZXi5 - 4 Iron - TI DGX100

5-P - ZXi7 - TI DGX100

WEDGES - SM10 RAW - 50/54/60 - TI DGS400

PUTTER - WHAT DAY IS IT??  (WH 2Ball CS or WH OG 7s Nano or WH OG Rossie S or Spider Tour)

BALLS - Maxfli Tour X or whatever premium ball I find in the woods...

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      Marco Penge - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Nicolai Von Dellingshausen - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Hong Taek Kim - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Julien Guerrier - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Richie Ramsey - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima's TaylorMade P-8CB irons - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Francesco Laporta - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Aaron Cockerill - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Sebastian Soderberg - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Connor Syme - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jeff Winther - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Woo Young Cho - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Bernd Wiesberger - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Andy Sullivan - WITB 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jacques Kruyswijk - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Pablo Larrazabal - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Thriston Lawrence - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Darius Van Driel - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Grant Forrest - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Jordan Gumberg - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Nacho Elvira - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Romain Langasque - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Dan Bradbury - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Yannik Paul - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Ashun Wu - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Alex Del Rey - WITB - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made gamer - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Collin Morikawa's custom Taylor-Made putter (back-up??) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      New TaylorMade P-UDI (Stinger Squadron cover) - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Rory's custom Joe Powell (Career Slam) persimmon driver & cover - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Keita Nakajima's TaylorMade P-8CB irons - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
      Tommy Fleetwood's son Mo's TM putter - 2025 Genesis Scottish Open
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
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    • 2025 John Deere Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos
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      General Albums
       
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #1
      2025 John Deere Classic - Monday #2
       
       
       
      WITB Albums
       
      Carson Young - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Zac Blair - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Anders Albertson - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Jay Giannetto - Iowa PGA Section Champ - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      John Pak - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Brendan Valdes - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cristobal del Solar - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Dylan Frittelli - WITB - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
      Pullout Albums
       
      Justin Lowers new Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Bettinardi new Core Carbon putters - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter - 2025 John Deere Classic
      Cameron putter covers - 2025 John Deere Classic
       
       
       
       
       
       
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