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I need a Club between 3 wood and 4 iron for 2020


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I ordered the MMC but unfortunately they don't off a 3 iron. I didn't like the HMB 3 iron.

I hate my 818 H1 hybrid but generally hit hybrids fine.

I actually really liked the TM Gapr low.

I'm thinking TS3 hybrid or Titleist T510. The Callaway Xforged Utility was really good too.

The Srixon hybrid is pretty good as well.

Any suggestions?? Just thinking out loud here.

 

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Consider the Tour Edge CBX 119 hybrid. The new-era CBX hybrids are touted at being "left-proof."

Offers solid mix of Evenflow and Hzrdus stock shafts. [https://touredge.com/cbx119hybrid](http://https://www.touredge.com/cbx119hybrid "https://touredge.com/cbx119hybrid")

These are bonded heads, and come in lofts 16* - 20* and 22*

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Srixon u85. One round with it and and it can do so many things. Amazing right out of the gate.

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19 deg TS2/TS3 hybrid is solid for that gap

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Same boat as you OP. I have an mp h5 2i that I just put a Fujikura pro 2.0 in it and love it! But it is mainly a tee club. Also have a 5 wood, but don’t hit it a lot. Distance is similar to my 3 wood. Might look into a more up to date 5 wood and crank it down to fill the gap and maybe lose the 3 wood and see what happens. Hybrids and I are not friends.

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I'm pondering this as well and I'm currently leaning Titleist U510, never thought of utility club as forgiving and high launch until I tried U510.

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High launch par-5 killer -> 5 wood

 

All around utility -> Hybrid (don't know, don't use them) or chunky driving iron (U510, Srixon) with heavy graphite

 

Iron replacement -> P790 3 iron or Titleist U500 with specs built off your MMC's and steel shaft

 

I have two clubs between 3 wood and 4-iron but if I only had one, it would be something like the U510 or a very small headed hybrid.

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Something you like in the 19-20* hybrid would give you the most versatility in that slot. 5w can be too spinny and you're probably hitting the 14* 3w to keep it lower? The Callaway UT is really great for me, but you need speed to get the height and spin. It's also not as forgiving as most hybrids. Srixon H85 and G410 are my picks as I haven't hit the TS yet, but the 818 weren't as good.

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A 7 wood at 20 degrees will do it. I took a Rogue 7 wood head and matched it with a Fuji 952 because I wanted it heavier. Playing length at 41.5 inches and it works great. Will stop on a green no prob. I don’t use a hybrid.

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Love my 2 hybrid. Generally dislike hybrids in general, but fills the iron to 3 wood gap perfectly. A low, penetrating ball flight, almost never balloons like a 3 wood can. It's a 3-4 year old Mizuno JPX, and I've hit everything close on the market but nothing's even come close. For 210-230 approaches, can open up a little and hit a nice soft-landing high-ish fade, for longer par 5's with no chance of getting home, can hit a safe lowish 220 yard shot with some run out, teed low on layup par 4's or longer par 3's without swinging too hard tend to hit it 225 with a nice little draw. Not great for plowing through and escaping wet rough, but I'd rather have the bite of an iron for that. Honestly, it makes the 3W the easiest club in the bag if I wanna drop in an extra wedge or whatever.

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Are you hitting into greens a lot with that slot? Or would it be for more of a fairway finder? That's what I'd look at for decision of hybrid vs utility. I've had best luck with Ping hybrids but I actually just put a 410 crossover utility in the bag and I think it may take the place of my 410 hybrid. I like Titleist hybrids/utilities as well.

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7 wood.

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I've struggled with hybrids and have been carrying only one for the gap between my 5 wood and 4 iron. I had the opportunity to hit a GAPR 3 mid yesterday - hit 200 yard par 3 pin high, 190 yard shot over water into the wind pin high, thin mishit 2nd shot on par 5 200 yards. This thing was crazy easy to hit. Looking forward to getting it in the bag.

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I play an original Callaway Apex 3 hybrid between my 3 wood (EFSZ) and 4 Iron (Srixon z785) It’s fits the distance gap perfect. I’m constantly intrigued by a driving iron as they are much more accurate for me off the tee, but I love the hybrids versatility. I hit a lot of punch hooks and cuts under trees and I can mishit it and it’s still easy distance!

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KGeorge, given that there is a LOT of room between a 3W and a 4 iron, if you haven't already thought about this, you might want to approach it from thinking more about what you want the club to DO, rather than what the club says on the bottom.

 

If you're looking for a layup club off the tee, you might be talking about a 5W. By contrast, if you are looking for maximum distance off the ground, it might be a 17* hybrid. If you're just looking for the midpoint yardage between your current 3W and 4 iron, that could be either of those, or something else entirely. There are a zillion good clubs out there, with all sorts of brands and names and degrees labeled on them, none of which matters; it's what they DO that matters, especially in a gap like you are talking about.

 

So maybe figure out the yardage and usage first, and work from there?

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Making a similar change for 2020 myself. I currently play my Cobra F9 Tour in 4 wood loft and have noticed it's just as good out of the rough as any hybrid I have ever had and even better than my current 3 utility. So for 2020 I'm dropping the 3 utility and going with and F9 3 wood and 5 wood straight to my 4 utility. The rails on the sole really make a difference in getting through the turf and they are the easiest metals I have ever hit from the deck hybrids included. Gave me the confidence to make the switch for my 2020 bag.

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> @MattGolfs said:

> I play an original Callaway Apex 3 hybrid between my 3 wood (EFSZ) and 4 Iron (Srixon z785) It’s fits the distance gap perfect. I’m constantly intrigued by a driving iron as they are much more accurate for me off the tee, but I love the hybrids versatility. I hit a lot of punch hooks and cuts under trees and I can mishit it and it’s still easy distance!

 

We have almost the exact same setup. Have you ever tried adding a 5 wood? I have the urge to bench the Apex hybrid for an 18* 5 wood.

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Definitely get out and try the 19* TS3 hybrid. I've struggled with this spot in my bag for a long, long time and the TS3 has finally fixed that for me. The shape is great and the performance is true hybrid-like; meaning, it's acts like a driving iron off the tee when I want it to, but also a 5-wood into greens when I need it to. In the past, I've gamed a 2-iron or 5-wood and there were times I wished I had the opposite club with me. This is the first hybrid where I actually feel like I'm not compromising and have the best of both worlds.

 

Check out TXG's review of the TS hybrids as well. Matt had much better numbers and dispersion with the TS3 over the TS2 version.

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well i decided to switch to a 4 wood this coming season.

Also Will test a few hybrids this spring. Likely TS3. The driving irons are nice and look cool but truth be told im not good enough to play them.

 

 

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I love the PING G410 Crossover. They look like a long iron, but they're easy to hit like a hybrid. I have a Mizuno FLI-HI 2i. I dig it. They have a 3i and a 4i option too. I see you've tried the HMB, have you tried the FLI-HI? Good luck!

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Apex hybrid? I used to dislike Callaway hybrids a lot, but I am falling in love with the current apex.

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> @RH82 said:

> We have almost the exact same setup. Have you ever tried adding a 5 wood? I have the urge to bench the Apex hybrid for an 18* 5 wood.

 

I didn’t have the urge to try a 5 wood until I started reading this thread lol I may have to pick up a cheap one to test out!

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