Your most unpopular Golf opinions?

[CBraynor]

Drivers should be capped at 300cc and you should only be allowed 10 clubs instead of 14

[JohnnyCashForever]

The handicap system encourages sandbagging, cheating, and all-around Machiavellian skullduggery.  It teaches that if you don't "manage" your handicap, you're a chump.  It is one of the most corrosive aspects undermining (or perhaps revealing) the character of the golfers who play our game.  It turns normally good-natured honest souls into conniving chiselers by legitimizing and rewarding dishonest behavior.  I hate it and all who succeed from manipulating it.  Other than that, I'm good.    

 

 

[mukster]

Competition for the PGA tour is a good thing. 

[Jayjay_theweim_guy]

On 8/30/2022 at 7:26 PM, GingerBubba said:

Threads like this (and this forum generally) make me think there is much more of a drinking culture whilst playing in America. Drinking after playing is certainly a thing in the UK, but whilst playing, not so much in my experience.

What is the culture around playing/throwing darts and drinking in the UK?  Because golf, to my mind, is just a more active form of playing darts.  With obviously much more bodily motion.

 

Personally, I agree with the studies that have shown that most people play darts (and drive! believe it or not) on 0.5 drinks.  Maybe 1.  Enough to remove inhibitions from letting your body do what it knows how to do, if you'd only get out of the way.  

 

Then there are the studies that show, if you learned how to play darts when inebriated, you'd play better drunk than sober...  Obviously this isn't true when performing at a high level (Cf. Doc Ellis throwing a no-hitter tripping on acid), but it does give me at least, room for thought.

[Mizunoid]

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3) Club and shaft fittings are a gimmick and will not lower your scores unless you are better than scratch

I was off 28 and have been since i started in 2016; had a club + putter fitting 8 weeks ago, I'm now off 16.

[HoosierHacker89]

Golf is a lot simpler than we (myself included) make it out to be. 

[Motoboss]

3 hours ago, HoosierHacker89 said:

Golf is a lot simpler than we (myself included) make it out to be. 

True and it would be much simpler if we adhered to the basic (only) rules

 

Play the ball as it lies

            a) if lost or unplayable, drop with penalty/line of sight

Pay the course as you find it

 

 

We make it way to complicated which invites personal interpretations.

[PhilsFanDrew]

On 9/4/2022 at 2:43 PM, Mizunoid said:

I was off 28 and have been since i started in 2016; had a club + putter fitting 8 weeks ago, I'm now off 16.

 

Are you around average height? 

[PhilsFanDrew]

On 9/2/2022 at 7:42 AM, Scooby555 said:

1. LIV is the best thing to hit golf in a long long time.

 

2. Most people including coaches make the golf swing way more complicated than it should be.

 

3. Loud music on the course sucks.

 

4. The rule book for golf should be simple and 2 pages at most.

 

 

 

I find it interesting because these two in a way contradict each other as music is heard on most holes at a LIV Golf event. 

[Mizunoid]

7 minutes ago, PhilsFanDrew said:

 

Are you around average height? 

Slightly above average, bit under 6ft in shoes.

Edited September 6, 2022 by Mizunoid

[Warrior42111]

On 9/2/2022 at 12:56 PM, BIG STU said:

I agree with #2 wholeheartely------ And most gurus think their way is the only way

#1 I am kinda torn over just say for me I personally am on the fence. I am tired of the bickering and the press keeps stirring the pot---

#3 especially if it is that modern rap crap country----- 60s 70s rock and beach music ok as long as it is not blaring

#4 Yep good statement

Throw in 80s Rock and we have a deal 

[rd1959]

20 hours ago, PhilsFanDrew said:

 

I find it interesting because these two in a way contradict each other as music is heard on most holes at a LIV Golf event. 

I don't like it there either.

[Double Mocha Man]

24 minutes ago, rd1959 said:

... as music is heard on most holes at a LIV Golf event. 

 

I understand that Phil Mickelson was a bit miffed because they weren't playing any ABBA.

[Is Golf Fun or Work]

LIV Golf is more entertaining than PGAT

[BIG STU]

1 hour ago, Warrior42111 said:

Throw in 80s Rock and we have a deal 

Yep absolutely cool with me

[BIG STU]

On 9/4/2022 at 8:49 PM, Motoboss said:

True and it would be much simpler if we adhered to the basic (only) rules

 

Play the ball as it lies

            a) if lost or unplayable, drop with penalty/line of sight

Pay the course as you find it

 

 

We make it way to complicated which invites personal interpretations.

My home course the traps are rougher than a night in the county jail but IMHO playable. None of the Mens Leagues will play from them and they are a free drop in the shootout. I play out of them in my rounds both vintage and modern. I was playing the other morning and one of the old farts that lives on the course was riding by going to their league play. I had hit it in the trap off the tee on our 13th hole. The nosy old fart asked me if I was playing from there? I told him yep because I hit it there. He informed me that the Mens Groups did not play from there. I basically told him I did not give two hoots if the mens groups farted or blew a tin whistle I hit it there and was playing it from there. I further added their "handicaps" were a scam because of that and they rolling the ball in the rough etc. 

[golfortennis]

4 hours ago, BIG STU said:

Yep absolutely cool with me

 

Even though there is a chance I may like it, I don't want to hear music on the course.  So if someone brings it up, I tell them I have Andrea Bocelli, and that I love opera music while playing.  I can be fairly certain that those who want to listen to music on the course don't want to hear opera, so when they object I just say well since we can't seem to agree, best we just keep the music off.  Or if you want to put in earbuds, have at it.  

[Double Mocha Man]

59 minutes ago, golfortennis said:

 

Even though there is a chance I may like it, I don't want to hear music on the course.  So if someone brings it up, I tell them I have Andrea Bocelli, and that I love opera music while playing.  I can be fairly certain that those who want to listen to music on the course don't want to hear opera, so when they object I just say well since we can't seem to agree, best we just keep the music off.  Or if you want to put in earbuds, have at it.  

 

I always ask if they can play Beethoven's 7th Symphony, final movement.

[Chunkitgood]

You don’t have to be smart, brave, honest, or in any other way virtuous or above the common herd to play good golf, even really good golf.

 

You can shoot in the 70’s (at least) with a fundamentally unsound, loft adding swing.

 

You apparently can teach golf for money with a fundamentally unsound, loft adding swing.

 

Golf learning is hindered by turf protecting by teachers, possibly unconscious or at least unrecognized as such by said teachers, who would lose status and money if everybody could do it.

[Wonder Bread]

On 9/4/2022 at 2:43 PM, Mizunoid said:

I was off 28 and have been since i started in 2016; had a club + putter fitting 8 weeks ago, I'm now off 16.

Please don’t take offense to this but at that level…it’s not the clubs helping you.  It’s simply getting better at playing .  28 is not always breaking 100.  16 is not always breaking 90.

 

Shooting scores like this indicate swing issues…and course mgt issues…not club issues.  And again…please don’t take offense to that.  We’ve all been there myself included.  
 

glad your improving…keep up the great work!  

[Mizunoid]

15 hours ago, Wonder Bread said:

Please don’t take offense to this but at that level…it’s not the clubs helping you.  It’s simply getting better at playing .  28 is not always breaking 100.  16 is not always breaking 90.

 

Shooting scores like this indicate swing issues…and course mgt issues…not club issues.  And again…please don’t take offense to that.  We’ve all been there myself included.  
 

glad your improving…keep up the great work!  

I played for 6 years with zero improvement and then suddenly shot my best rounds ever the first time after being fit..

[PhilsFanDrew]

On 9/10/2022 at 8:05 AM, Mizunoid said:

I played for 6 years with zero improvement and then suddenly shot my best rounds ever the first time after being fit..

 

If you played for 6 years at 28 before getting fit, what did you do to try to get better? 

[AngryGilmore]

If nobody has said it yet:   Scotty Cameron's are just overhyped Ping Ansers.

[JimmyC59]

On 9/2/2022 at 11:54 AM, klebs01 said:

1 is live and I think it’s serving it’s purpose to get the tour to freshen up it’s stale product. 
 

2 is golf instructors make the swing too complicated. This is very true. 
 

there is no contradiction between 1 and 2

I don't think it's too complicated.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQVFhqAKcMg

[Mizunoid]

On 9/20/2022 at 10:06 PM, PhilsFanDrew said:

 

If you played for 6 years at 28 before getting fit, what did you do to try to get better? 

Played and practiced a lot, watched pretty much every video on youtube, tried course management, attitude/expectation adjustment, tried improving short game to compensate for poor long game, etc. Only getting fit brought down the cap.

[golfortennis]

Referring to anything golf related as "OG" is a little much.

[uga_fan]

 They should make the bunker rakes that Jack used at the 2006 Memorial standard at all PGA events. 

 

When Mark Rolfing says "Notah", I want to punch a puppy.

 

Everyone on the telecast needs to stop calling Justin Leonard, "JL".

[Robert72]

The number of posts on a topic should be limited to 50.

 

(Someone else may have posted this but I'm not going to read over 30 pages of posts).

[Scooby555]

People make the golf swing much more difficult than it needs to be.  What's your 67th swing thought at P42?

 

WTF is the Presidents Cup?  Didn't watch a minute of that 2nd tier wanna be Ryder Cup.

[Double Mocha Man]

1 hour ago, Robert72 said:

The number of posts on a topic should be limited to 50.

 

It's a conversation. Some people are more heavily invested than others. As long as they don't repost essentially the same thing over and over.