Billy Mayfair DQ at Invesco QQQ Championship

[Irishman1979]

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > > Well since we are on the subject of integrity......

> > > >

> > > > If you are playing in the fall and you hit your ball into play but there are so many leaves on the ground that you can't find it, do you go back to the tee and hit another? What would you do?

> > > >

> > > > I bet all of you would take a free drop. If a playing partner of mine had that happen to him and I saw where the ball landed I'd let him take a free drop in a casual round.

> > >

> > > If you and your friends agree to some special rules that you all play by, fine. That's up to you.

> > >

> > > But I would never take a "free drop" and then post my score or pretend my score was legit. I would either go back to the tee or just not take a score on that hole (DQ) if I wasn't able to play it by the rules.

> > >

> > > Your approach is obviously a very slippery slope. My ball got stuck up in a tree the other day. Should I take a free drop?

> > >

> > > Just play by the rules or don't post/talk about your score as if it's legit.

> >

> > The rules state by the USGA that under certain conditions (Leaves accumulating at a furious rate where the grounds crew hasn't been able to clear them) that you get a free drop without penalty. Sorry your ball ended up on a tree root, sorry you do not get a drop on that one.

>

> If it's totally legal then why did you use that for the integrity question?

>

> I wasn't aware of that rule. If it's legal then obviously it's okay. Where I live leaves don't accumulate at a furious rate.

 

The only thing I don't like about fall golf in Illinois is that if there are any trees on the course the leaves cover the ground where you can't even see the grass if its late enough in the year.

[BIG STU]

> @ebrasmus21 said:

> This isn’t like the Saturday morning skins game. This is a seasoned touring professional. Not the reputation I would want to have.

 

Personally I would not want a cheating reputation even in a Saturday Skins game

[BIG STU]

> @Irishman1979 said:

> > @straightshot7 said:

> > > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > Well since we are on the subject of integrity......

> > >

> > > If you are playing in the fall and you hit your ball into play but there are so many leaves on the ground that you can't find it, do you go back to the tee and hit another? What would you do?

> > >

> > > I bet all of you would take a free drop. If a playing partner of mine had that happen to him and I saw where the ball landed I'd let him take a free drop in a casual round.

> >

> > If you and your friends agree to some special rules that you all play by, fine. That's up to you.

> >

> > But I would never take a "free drop" and then post my score or pretend my score was legit. I would either go back to the tee or just not take a score on that hole (DQ) if I wasn't able to play it by the rules.

> >

> > Your approach is obviously a very slippery slope. My ball got stuck up in a tree the other day. Should I take a free drop?

> >

> > Just play by the rules or don't post/talk about your score as if it's legit.

>

> The rules state by the USGA that under certain conditions (Leaves accumulating at a furious rate where the grounds crew hasn't been able to clear them) that you get a free drop without penalty. Sorry your ball ended up on a tree root, sorry you do not get a drop on that one.

 

The tree root deal unless there is a "local" rule in place which most of the courses here have------ Of course the courses here have numerous local rules to speed up tourism play--- I can remember playing Mini Tour events down here> always the respective tour directors would have a rule sheet with our rules and would warn us local guys playing a particular course to check our tournament rule sheet. Our tournament rule sheet was vastly different from the local rules everyday rules sheet. Yep in our tournaments tough luck you are on a root no free drop

[straightshot7]

> @"BIG STU" said:

> > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > > Well since we are on the subject of integrity......

> > > >

> > > > If you are playing in the fall and you hit your ball into play but there are so many leaves on the ground that you can't find it, do you go back to the tee and hit another? What would you do?

> > > >

> > > > I bet all of you would take a free drop. If a playing partner of mine had that happen to him and I saw where the ball landed I'd let him take a free drop in a casual round.

> > >

> > > If you and your friends agree to some special rules that you all play by, fine. That's up to you.

> > >

> > > But I would never take a "free drop" and then post my score or pretend my score was legit. I would either go back to the tee or just not take a score on that hole (DQ) if I wasn't able to play it by the rules.

> > >

> > > Your approach is obviously a very slippery slope. My ball got stuck up in a tree the other day. Should I take a free drop?

> > >

> > > Just play by the rules or don't post/talk about your score as if it's legit.

> >

> > The rules state by the USGA that under certain conditions (Leaves accumulating at a furious rate where the grounds crew hasn't been able to clear them) that you get a free drop without penalty. Sorry your ball ended up on a tree root, sorry you do not get a drop on that one.

>

> The tree root deal unless there is a "local" rule in place which most of the courses here have------ Of course the courses here have numerous local rules to speed up tourism play--- I can remember playing Mini Tour events down here> always the respective tour directors would have a rule sheet with our rules and would warn us local guys playing a particular course to check our tournament rule sheet. Our tournament rule sheet was vastly different from the local rules everyday rules sheet. Yep in our tournaments tough luck you are on a root no free drop

 

In my post I said "My ball got stuck up in a tree the other day." meaning I hit into the branches and the ball never came down.

 

I'm not sure why he read "tree root" from that.

 

But, I would never expect to get a free drop from a tree root either.

 

The only thing I can remember ever getting a free drop from tree wise, was at a couple courses where they had these newly planted "staked" trees and you were allowed to drop away from those.

[Hawkeye77]

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > > Well since we are on the subject of integrity......

> > > >

> > > > If you are playing in the fall and you hit your ball into play but there are so many leaves on the ground that you can't find it, do you go back to the tee and hit another? What would you do?

> > > >

> > > > I bet all of you would take a free drop. If a playing partner of mine had that happen to him and I saw where the ball landed I'd let him take a free drop in a casual round.

> > >

> > > If you and your friends agree to some special rules that you all play by, fine. That's up to you.

> > >

> > > But I would never take a "free drop" and then post my score or pretend my score was legit. I would either go back to the tee or just not take a score on that hole (DQ) if I wasn't able to play it by the rules.

> > >

> > > Your approach is obviously a very slippery slope. My ball got stuck up in a tree the other day. Should I take a free drop?

> > >

> > > Just play by the rules or don't post/talk about your score as if it's legit.

> >

> > The rules state by the USGA that under certain conditions (Leaves accumulating at a furious rate where the grounds crew hasn't been able to clear them) that you get a free drop without penalty. Sorry your ball ended up on a tree root, sorry you do not get a drop on that one.

>

> If it's totally legal then why did you use that for the integrity question?

>

> I wasn't aware of that rule. If it's legal then obviously it's okay. Where I live leaves don't accumulate at a furious rate.

 

Because he ran over and started a thread in the rules section and started going on about this and got educated pretty quickly.

 

Still doesn't understand going back to the tee isn't necessarily the only option if there is a lost ball.

[Irishman1979]

> @"BIG STU" said:

> > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > > Well since we are on the subject of integrity......

> > > >

> > > > If you are playing in the fall and you hit your ball into play but there are so many leaves on the ground that you can't find it, do you go back to the tee and hit another? What would you do?

> > > >

> > > > I bet all of you would take a free drop. If a playing partner of mine had that happen to him and I saw where the ball landed I'd let him take a free drop in a casual round.

> > >

> > > If you and your friends agree to some special rules that you all play by, fine. That's up to you.

> > >

> > > But I would never take a "free drop" and then post my score or pretend my score was legit. I would either go back to the tee or just not take a score on that hole (DQ) if I wasn't able to play it by the rules.

> > >

> > > Your approach is obviously a very slippery slope. My ball got stuck up in a tree the other day. Should I take a free drop?

> > >

> > > Just play by the rules or don't post/talk about your score as if it's legit.

> >

> > The rules state by the USGA that under certain conditions (Leaves accumulating at a furious rate where the grounds crew hasn't been able to clear them) that you get a free drop without penalty. Sorry your ball ended up on a tree root, sorry you do not get a drop on that one.

>

> The tree root deal unless there is a "local" rule in place which most of the courses here have------ Of course the courses here have numerous local rules to speed up tourism play--- I can remember playing Mini Tour events down here> always the respective tour directors would have a rule sheet with our rules and would warn us local guys playing a particular course to check our tournament rule sheet. Our tournament rule sheet was vastly different from the local rules everyday rules sheet. Yep in our tournaments tough luck you are on a root no free drop

 

Played the mini tours as well. Nice to see a fellow player on the boards.

 

 

[buckeyefl]

> @bladehunter said:

> This is no shock. He’s the guy who last year or two was callled out by several for his ball marking technique and his anchoring.

 

Its been one thing or another his whole career sadly.

[the bishop]

> @"BIG STU" said:

> > @ebrasmus21 said:

> > This isn’t like the Saturday morning skins game. This is a seasoned touring professional. Not the reputation I would want to have.

>

> Personally I would not want a cheating reputation even in a Saturday Skins game

 

You don't want a cheating reputation _especially_ in a Saturday Skins game. Cheating in a pro tournament where doing something could net you an additonal $50K isn't something anybody condones or should tolerate but I can at least understand the motivation. But if you're a cheater in a $1 skins game you're just a f*ckin' scumbag.

[BIG STU]

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @"BIG STU" said:

> > > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > > @Irishman1979 said:

> > > > > Well since we are on the subject of integrity......

> > > > >

> > > > > If you are playing in the fall and you hit your ball into play but there are so many leaves on the ground that you can't find it, do you go back to the tee and hit another? What would you do?

> > > > >

> > > > > I bet all of you would take a free drop. If a playing partner of mine had that happen to him and I saw where the ball landed I'd let him take a free drop in a casual round.

> > > >

> > > > If you and your friends agree to some special rules that you all play by, fine. That's up to you.

> > > >

> > > > But I would never take a "free drop" and then post my score or pretend my score was legit. I would either go back to the tee or just not take a score on that hole (DQ) if I wasn't able to play it by the rules.

> > > >

> > > > Your approach is obviously a very slippery slope. My ball got stuck up in a tree the other day. Should I take a free drop?

> > > >

> > > > Just play by the rules or don't post/talk about your score as if it's legit.

> > >

> > > The rules state by the USGA that under certain conditions (Leaves accumulating at a furious rate where the grounds crew hasn't been able to clear them) that you get a free drop without penalty. Sorry your ball ended up on a tree root, sorry you do not get a drop on that one.

> >

> > The tree root deal unless there is a "local" rule in place which most of the courses here have------ Of course the courses here have numerous local rules to speed up tourism play--- I can remember playing Mini Tour events down here> always the respective tour directors would have a rule sheet with our rules and would warn us local guys playing a particular course to check our tournament rule sheet. Our tournament rule sheet was vastly different from the local rules everyday rules sheet. Yep in our tournaments tough luck you are on a root no free drop

>

> In my post I said "My ball got stuck up in a tree the other day." meaning I hit into the branches and the ball never came down.

>

> I'm not sure why he read "tree root" from that.

>

> But, I would never expect to get a free drop from a tree root either.

>

> The only thing I can remember ever getting a free drop from tree wise, was at a couple courses where they had these newly planted "staked" trees and you were allowed to drop away from those.

 

And in the case you mentioned that would be Ground Under Repair same as if they had re sodded an area and it was so marked. Some courses here when they freshly mulch an area will also place a local rule giving free relief and some give free relief from flower beds

[Man_O_War]

> @"flip flappy" said:

> > @grm24 said:

> > > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > As the Charles Schwab Cup is winding down, I was watching the Invesco QQQ Championship yesterday but got pulled away before I could see who won. I checked the scores today and noticed that Billy Mayfair was DQ'ed. I happened to see Billy in a situation yesterday that was questionable and wondered if that was what got him DQ'ed? His ball was on a steep slope behind a green. He appeared to be sizing up his shot and placed his club behind the ball, down into the rough and the ball rolled down the hill. I believe he told a rules official that he didn't ground his club. The announcers didn't agree with what actually happened as Billy related it. Does anyone know if this is what got Billy DQ'ed?

> >

> > Found this on the PGA Tour media website notes for the QQQ.

> >

> >

> >

> > https://pgatourmedia.pgatourhq.com/Tour/WebTemplate/media.nsf/vwWebFS/8264BAEBE0BFD62685257E7500680F40?openDocument

>

> Good find but I have to say strange on Billy's part. He was playing the third round when the incident happened about the ball moving and the lost ball happened in the second round that resulted in him DQing himself?

 

 

he had options. He chose the second round

[GeorgeHWB]

Greg Norman is a well known cheater as well.

 

 

With other men's wives.

[Man_O_War]

> @Badds said:

> Greg Norman is a well known cheater as well.

>

>

> With other men's wives.

 

shouldn't you be out there practicing Badds?

[iBanesto]

Mark O'Meara was accused of doing same when marking his ball when he won in Europe.

 

Apparently there is video evidence of this.

 

Jarmo Sandelin was not happy about this and accused O'Meara of belatedly cheating.

 

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/o-meara-admits-to-possible-misplacing-1.1256652

[manku]

 

> @Badds said:

> Greg Norman is a well known cheater as well.

>

>

> With other men's wives.

 

Norman isn't doing the cheating if he's single, right? Or an open marriage.

[grm24]

> @"flip flappy" said:

> > @grm24 said:

> > > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > As the Charles Schwab Cup is winding down, I was watching the Invesco QQQ Championship yesterday but got pulled away before I could see who won. I checked the scores today and noticed that Billy Mayfair was DQ'ed. I happened to see Billy in a situation yesterday that was questionable and wondered if that was what got him DQ'ed? His ball was on a steep slope behind a green. He appeared to be sizing up his shot and placed his club behind the ball, down into the rough and the ball rolled down the hill. I believe he told a rules official that he didn't ground his club. The announcers didn't agree with what actually happened as Billy related it. Does anyone know if this is what got Billy DQ'ed?

> >

> > Found this on the PGA Tour media website notes for the QQQ.

> >

> >

> >

> > https://pgatourmedia.pgatourhq.com/Tour/WebTemplate/media.nsf/vwWebFS/8264BAEBE0BFD62685257E7500680F40?openDocument

>

> Good find but I have to say strange on Billy's part. He was playing the third round when the incident happened about the ball moving and the lost ball happened in the second round that resulted in him DQing himself?

 

Interesting article on the Mayfair DQ from golf.com

 

https://www.golf.com/news/2019/11/12/billy-mayfair-disqualification-champions-tour/

[Sixcat]

Mayfair has had an ominous cloud over his head his entire career. It was only a matter of time before something came to light that he couldn't lie or cheat his way out of.

[the bishop]

> @grm24 said:

> > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > @grm24 said:

> > > > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > > As the Charles Schwab Cup is winding down, I was watching the Invesco QQQ Championship yesterday but got pulled away before I could see who won. I checked the scores today and noticed that Billy Mayfair was DQ'ed. I happened to see Billy in a situation yesterday that was questionable and wondered if that was what got him DQ'ed? His ball was on a steep slope behind a green. He appeared to be sizing up his shot and placed his club behind the ball, down into the rough and the ball rolled down the hill. I believe he told a rules official that he didn't ground his club. The announcers didn't agree with what actually happened as Billy related it. Does anyone know if this is what got Billy DQ'ed?

> > >

> > > Found this on the PGA Tour media website notes for the QQQ.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > https://pgatourmedia.pgatourhq.com/Tour/WebTemplate/media.nsf/vwWebFS/8264BAEBE0BFD62685257E7500680F40?openDocument

> >

> > Good find but I have to say strange on Billy's part. He was playing the third round when the incident happened about the ball moving and the lost ball happened in the second round that resulted in him DQing himself?

>

> Interesting article on the Mayfair DQ from golf.com

>

> https://www.golf.com/news/2019/11/12/billy-mayfair-disqualification-champions-tour/

 

Well that'll help his reputation. Or not.

[MidwestGolfBum]

> @"the bishop" said:

> > @grm24 said:

> > > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > > @grm24 said:

> > > > > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > > > As the Charles Schwab Cup is winding down, I was watching the Invesco QQQ Championship yesterday but got pulled away before I could see who won. I checked the scores today and noticed that Billy Mayfair was DQ'ed. I happened to see Billy in a situation yesterday that was questionable and wondered if that was what got him DQ'ed? His ball was on a steep slope behind a green. He appeared to be sizing up his shot and placed his club behind the ball, down into the rough and the ball rolled down the hill. I believe he told a rules official that he didn't ground his club. The announcers didn't agree with what actually happened as Billy related it. Does anyone know if this is what got Billy DQ'ed?

> > > >

> > > > Found this on the PGA Tour media website notes for the QQQ.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > https://pgatourmedia.pgatourhq.com/Tour/WebTemplate/media.nsf/vwWebFS/8264BAEBE0BFD62685257E7500680F40?openDocument

> > >

> > > Good find but I have to say strange on Billy's part. He was playing the third round when the incident happened about the ball moving and the lost ball happened in the second round that resulted in him DQing himself?

> >

> > Interesting article on the Mayfair DQ from golf.com

> >

> > https://www.golf.com/news/2019/11/12/billy-mayfair-disqualification-champions-tour/

>

> Well that'll help his reputation. Or not.

 

Help cement it, maybe. Probably brings things to light for a whole lot more people that may not have known about him though. He is going to have a pretty tight watch on him now, I would suspect.

[the bishop]

> @MidwestGolfBum said:

> > @"the bishop" said:

> > > @grm24 said:

> > > > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > > > @grm24 said:

> > > > > > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > > > > As the Charles Schwab Cup is winding down, I was watching the Invesco QQQ Championship yesterday but got pulled away before I could see who won. I checked the scores today and noticed that Billy Mayfair was DQ'ed. I happened to see Billy in a situation yesterday that was questionable and wondered if that was what got him DQ'ed? His ball was on a steep slope behind a green. He appeared to be sizing up his shot and placed his club behind the ball, down into the rough and the ball rolled down the hill. I believe he told a rules official that he didn't ground his club. The announcers didn't agree with what actually happened as Billy related it. Does anyone know if this is what got Billy DQ'ed?

> > > > >

> > > > > Found this on the PGA Tour media website notes for the QQQ.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > https://pgatourmedia.pgatourhq.com/Tour/WebTemplate/media.nsf/vwWebFS/8264BAEBE0BFD62685257E7500680F40?openDocument

> > > >

> > > > Good find but I have to say strange on Billy's part. He was playing the third round when the incident happened about the ball moving and the lost ball happened in the second round that resulted in him DQing himself?

> > >

> > > Interesting article on the Mayfair DQ from golf.com

> > >

> > > https://www.golf.com/news/2019/11/12/billy-mayfair-disqualification-champions-tour/

> >

> > Well that'll help his reputation. Or not.

>

> Help cement it, maybe. Probably brings things to light for a whole lot more people that may not have known about him though. He is going to have a pretty tight watch on him now, I would suspect.

 

Well he lawyered up pretty quick. A sure sign of the guilty!

[RSinSG]

One of the guys in league play is a creative ball marker on the greens. It’s pretty comical actually as he somehow thinks he’ll have a better chance at a 39’11” putt ove a 40’ one. He typically jams his lag putt 6-8 long. He doesn’t try it with shorter ones because he knows people are watching.

[mocokid]

I don't mind the ball search that took 3+ minutes. 17th hole is another matter. He caused the move.

[Old Tom Morris]

His only regret is that he got caught. He double downed on two lies on two different incidents and got shamed on both. If he had any integrity, he would have made sure to err on the side of doing the right thing and not trying to get away with something. Tough lesson for a 53 year old man to take. This just validates what people have observed for years.

[redfirebird08]

> @grm24 said:

> > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > @grm24 said:

> > > > @"flip flappy" said:

> > > > As the Charles Schwab Cup is winding down, I was watching the Invesco QQQ Championship yesterday but got pulled away before I could see who won. I checked the scores today and noticed that Billy Mayfair was DQ'ed. I happened to see Billy in a situation yesterday that was questionable and wondered if that was what got him DQ'ed? His ball was on a steep slope behind a green. He appeared to be sizing up his shot and placed his club behind the ball, down into the rough and the ball rolled down the hill. I believe he told a rules official that he didn't ground his club. The announcers didn't agree with what actually happened as Billy related it. Does anyone know if this is what got Billy DQ'ed?

> > >

> > > Found this on the PGA Tour media website notes for the QQQ.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > https://pgatourmedia.pgatourhq.com/Tour/WebTemplate/media.nsf/vwWebFS/8264BAEBE0BFD62685257E7500680F40?openDocument

> >

> > Good find but I have to say strange on Billy's part. He was playing the third round when the incident happened about the ball moving and the lost ball happened in the second round that resulted in him DQing himself?

>

> Interesting article on the Mayfair DQ from golf.com

>

> https://www.golf.com/news/2019/11/12/billy-mayfair-disqualification-champions-tour/

 

 

Guess he'll need to use the stop watch feature on his phone next time, lol

[Birdie Mac]

At the pro level how is the timing typically kept for lost ball searches? This article indicates Mayfair asked his caddy to keep the time.

[the bishop]

> @mocokid said:

> I don't mind the ball search that took 3+ minutes. 17th hole is another matter. He caused the move.

 

Yeah but in Mayfair's version of the story he told his caddie to keep an eye on time because he was aware of the 3 min rule but according to the rules official when he approached Mayfair he claims Mayfair professed ignorance of the rule change. Given his history I'm gonna go with the rules official's version of events.

[Old Tom Morris]

> @mocokid said:

> I don't mind the ball search that took 3+ minutes. 17th hole is another matter. He caused the move.

 

But he lied to the official. He knows the difference between 3:00 minutes and 4:50 minutes . If he’s unsure he needs to err on the side of admitting he went over 3 minutes.

[mocokid]

> @"Old Tom Morris" said:

> > @mocokid said:

> > I don't mind the ball search that took 3+ minutes. 17th hole is another matter. He caused the move.

>

> But he lied to the official. He knows the difference between 3:00 minutes and 4:50 minutes . If he’s unsure he needs to err on the side of admitting he went over 3 minutes.

 

Yes, the lie is a gamechanger.

[MidwestGolfBum]

> @"the bishop" said:

> > @mocokid said:

> > I don't mind the ball search that took 3+ minutes. 17th hole is another matter. He caused the move.

>

> Yeah but in Mayfair's version of the story he told his caddie to keep an eye on time because he was aware of the 3 min rule but according to the rules official when he approached Mayfair he claims Mayfair professed ignorance of the rule change. Given his history I'm gonna go with the rules official's version of events.

 

Well, depending on where in his story you are, he said that he expected the official to time him and also said to have his caddy time him for the 3 minutes. Rules guy says didn't see an issue with admitting it was well over 3 minutes on the range the next day, stating he gets 5, followed by he never said any of that.

 

I have to go with the rules official on everything, given there is absolutely nothing for them to gain by correctly enforcing the rules. The fact that he states he has called himself on something by stating the incident that he had to come and watch in the trailer says even more about it, at least to me. He got caught, he didn't call himself on a thing there.

[cristphoto]

> @RSinSG said:

> One of the guys in league play is a creative ball marker on the greens. It’s pretty comical actually as he somehow thinks he’ll have a better chance at a 39’11” putt ove a 40’ one. He typically jams his lag putt 6-8 long. He doesn’t try it with shorter ones because he knows people are watching.

 

As Lee Trevino famously joked one time, "If I could mark this ball ten more times I'd be in the hole".

[KaymerGolf88]

> @MidwestGolfBum said:

> > @"the bishop" said:

> > > @mocokid said:

> > > I don't mind the ball search that took 3+ minutes. 17th hole is another matter. He caused the move.

> >

> > Yeah but in Mayfair's version of the story he told his caddie to keep an eye on time because he was aware of the 3 min rule but according to the rules official when he approached Mayfair he claims Mayfair professed ignorance of the rule change. Given his history I'm gonna go with the rules official's version of events.

>

> Well, depending on where in his story you are, he said that he expected the official to time him and also said to have his caddy time him for the 3 minutes. Rules guy says didn't see an issue with admitting it was well over 3 minutes on the range the next day, stating he gets 5, followed by he never said any of that.

>

> I have to go with the rules official on everything, given there is absolutely nothing for them to gain by correctly enforcing the rules. The fact that he states he has called himself on something by stating the incident that he had to come and watch in the trailer says even more about it, at least to me. He got caught, he didn't call himself on a thing there.

 

Bingo.