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After reading hundreds of different club and shaft threads here I’m no clearer on golf shaft options than before. Please help w advice. 
 

I’m a 60 y/o golfer, at best a 1.8 and playing for several years around 2.5 - 3.  After a 12 year break for unexpected reasons, I’m slowly finding my swing (although short game still seems lost) and hope to get back to single digits. My 7 iron goes around 165-170 and my tempo is prob moderate w a little more than 3/4 backswing. My current iron sets are my original Eye 2’s with  stiff DG’s, and I was fitted for a new set of Apex 19’s this fall with Elevate 105’s. With the pings my ball flight is low to moderate. With the Callaways the flight is high, perhaps too high since our greens are large and soft and I often suck balls off the green w backspin.  I occ can really balloon a ball not to mention distance dispersion is much wider w the Apex irons. 
 

Up until now, the only shaft I think I’ve ever played is DG, including my Titleist blades which now sit in my office corner to admire. I have no idea why the fitter put me in Elevates, we ran out of time to discuss. It may have been based on numbers from the launch monitor, which I’ve never used before or since. 
 

The other question I would appreciate some advice on is shaft weight.  The True Temper web site recs DG 105 or 120 for me but I have no idea what a light shaft does vs the heavier shafts I think most pros are still using. 
 

thx for any help. 

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I have dg 105 R in my irons and am pleased with the flight.  Th g710 I have are almost universally thought to fly high but with the 105, for me, they work as I want.   
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Do you like the weight of the elevates? If so, go with the 105 dynamic golds... 

 

you also might want to look at graphite shafts as they can be made to lower ball flight even more and are available in higher weights now.

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A couple of things:

 

  • How long had you been back into golf before you got fitted? If your swing muscles weren't in shape yet, you might have handled the shafts in fitting but started overpowering them a bit once back in shape.
  • Are the balls going "perhaps too high" with loss of distance, or is distance still as expected? You might check your ball position to ensure you're not helping launch too much.

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Also, by now the Elevate Tour might fit better than the Elevate 105. The E105 is high launch / high spin, while the ETour is mid launch / mid spin.

 

14 hours ago, Duct Tape said:

 I occ can really balloon a ball not to mention distance dispersion is much wider w the Apex irons. 

The Apex '19 version is classified as a Player's Distance iron, hence dispersion might be a greater. 

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The biggest difference is weight. You say you've likely only ever played Dynamic Golds (I assume the S300/X100) which is a 130g shaft, and how you've dropped 25g of static weight from the club, as well as changed to a softer shaft profile, hence the higher launch and the ballooning. 

You need to figure out what it is that you want/what feels good to you, because the fact that you didn't raise a red flag after a couple swings with Elevate 105's suggests you may not be in tune with what does and does not work for your swing, or you simply weren't given the time to figure that out. If you want to take the time, you'll need to demo some shafts and pay attention to your swing/delivery and how you're hitting the ball. If you don't want to take the time and just stick with something comfortable, get some Dynamic Golds. If you want the familiar Dynamic Gold feel but would like a slightly lighter option, the Dynamic Gold 120's are a great option. 

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I see this post was sent to the Club Tech sub forum which I didn’t even know existed. I’ll have to spend some time looking around here. 
 

Thanks for the helpful replies. It’s a good point that my golf muscle memory and strength wasn’t there for club fitting, which was with a Callaway tech at our range. Since then my ball striking has returned quite a bit. My ball position for say a 7 iron is the same as always and now with some practice I’m compressing it as well as always. 
 

It’s possible he put me in the Elevate shaft thinking I’m older now and will be playing much less frequently, but when I commented that many of my friends had gone to regular stiffness shafts he said with my swing speed I should definitely be in stiff ones. I don’t recall any specific numbers mentioned, at the time I was mostly attuned to the club head choices. Now with more wrx education maybe I need to pay more attention to some launch monitor data and to shafts. I’m also starting to understand that a Elevate 105 S may in fact be more flexible than a S300 regular. 
 

I’ll poke around here a little more but if anyone has the time, can you add some of the pros and cons to using lighter shafts?  I plan to compare as best as I can with my Apex and Eye2’s plus the Titleist blades with DG shafts, but doubt it will give too much feel info with the very different heads. 
 

Thanks again. Great forum. 

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