G425 vs SIM2 vs Tsi3

[onafriday]

I would love to see more direct comparisons between the G425 and SIM2, especially as some of you seem to be starting to demo both.  I’m a fan of my 410 LST and had been looking forward to 425.   The initial  reviews seem.... tepid?  I know it’s super early.  
 

Sort of side eyeing the SIM2.  Lusting even.  Maybe.  Curious about Tsi3 as well.  Sort of.  Never really looked at a Titleist driver before. 
 

Direct comps appreciated!

Edited January 31, 2021 by onafriday
Update

[Kale_m]

Just get last years SIM. Not sure how anything can be better then it. 
 

low spin yet forgiving! 

[evoviiiyou]

I think this year is going to be more of the same:

 

LOW SPIN

SIM2 > 425LST

 

FOREGIVENESS/ MOI

425MAX > SIM2 MAX

 

SOUND/ LOOKS/ OPTIONS

SIM2 seems like it will introduce custom color options (love this). The rest is subjective but I will say the 425 line is the best a PING driver has ever looked

[J13]

Well Ping just won the driver count at the tournament of champions so what does that tell you.  And the winner of the tourney played a ping driver.  So....😉

[Oldboy]

This is true..  but it was a G400 Max ..😉

[dalillama47]

Just coming off of back surgery and just started swinging again, but I compared the 425 max vs. the Sim2.  Very small sample size, but was completely underwhelmed with the Ping, especially the sound.  Typical Ping forgiveness, but the sound for me was horrible.  Like I said, small sample size, but initial response is the 410 is every bit as good and better sounding.

Sim2 on the other hand, and I'm not in anyway a TM fanboy, blew the Ping out of the water.  Sound and feel were much improved over the original Sim.  I'm sure the Ping is more forgiving, but I was more consistent with the TM.  For me if I was going to game either of these, I would find the head and shaft combo for the TM.

[boycer]

In for this one.  

[redwing91007]

Looking forward to hearing more on this one too. Currently gaming a SIM Max but we haven't gotten along great. I'll demo them both once our season starts back up but I'd love some early impressions from the WRXers. 

Edited January 15, 2021 by redwing91007

[J13]

5 hours ago, Oldboy said:

This is true..  but it was a G400 Max ..😉

 

Exactly and it still got the win.  Taylormade makes a great driver for certain people and launch monitors but when it comes down to testing on a course the Ping destroys it every year for me. 

[BirdieBob]

Watched Michael Newtons review of the G425 vs his G400 driver.

Just based on the sound, I have no intention of considering the G425 driver or any other Ping driver.

 

[J13]

33 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

Watched Michael Newtons review of the G425 vs his G400 driver.

Just based on the sound, I have no intention of considering the G425 driver or any other Ping driver.

 

 

I've hit the G425 Max outside and it's a softball bat.  Reminds me a lot of the Cobra L4V.  And as a result I've already Hotmelted 4 in my shop.

[Qegurezi]

16 hours ago, Oldboy said:

This is true..  but it was a G400 Max ..😉

You sure it was the Max? 😉

[woods991]

The sound of the ping is horrible IMO sticking with the tsi2, and as far as taylormade their drivers never work out for me but make great products.  I was hoping the ping g425 would be the driver for 21 but sticking with the new titleist line which is amazing. 

Edited January 16, 2021 by woods991

[JasonPetermann]

Hit the new Ping heads yesterday. Sound is terrible on the Max compared to my Sim Max. Coming off of COVID, so my swing was not great at all, but I would say little if any, forgiveness differences between the 425 and my Sim Max. 

[uglande]

With drivers, I am probably staying with my G410 Plus for now. I'm not a fan of turbulators but I want high MOI, so the G425 doesn't bring much to the table except cosmetics. 

 

But with fairway woods, I love a clean club head, especially one with matte finish, which is why I'm going G425 in the fairway woods and why I am not crazy about TaylorMade.

[J13]

3 hours ago, JasonPetermann said:

Hit the new Ping heads yesterday. Sound is terrible on the Max compared to my Sim Max. Coming off of COVID, so my swing was not great at all, but I would say little if any, forgiveness differences between the 425 and my Sim Max. 

 

Based on my testing the 425 Max is noticeably more forgiving than the SIM Max.  Like not even in the same ball park.  Sim Max sounds and feels much better though, agree.

[Kevmonton]

On 1/15/2021 at 6:06 PM, BirdieBob said:

Watched Michael Newtons review of the G425 vs his G400 driver.

Just based on the sound, I have no intention of considering the G425 driver or any other Ping driver.

 

Let's say the the sound from the driver at impact last's 1.5 seconds.  You hit your driver 14 times a round. That equates to 20 seconds a round of this "unpleasant sound".  I will take that plus a few extra fairways hit per round.

[Titleist84]

Played both the SIM driver and 3 wood last year.  High launch, low spin is great for distance, but not so great for accuracy.  You need backspin to absorb sidespin otherwise hello slices or hooks.

[lordemsworth]

16 hours ago, Kevmonton said:

Let's say the the sound from the driver at impact last's 1.5 seconds.  You hit your driver 14 times a round. That equates to 20 seconds a round of this "unpleasant sound".  I will take that plus a few extra fairways hit per round.

yes -  technically true, but based on the sound you may end up dreading hitting it, which has measurably more impact on the result.  It is how I felt about the Rogue fairways.  They sounded like crap and over time, how I felt about them influenced my result too often - and out they went.

 

I’ve liked Ping drivers (and still keep a Rapture V2 in the backup bag).  But listening to all the videos, the 425 Max doesn’t have my preferred sound.  I’ll test it against my TS2 and the new TSI drivers to see what makes the bag this year.  

Edited January 17, 2021 by lordemsworth

[onafriday]

Early reviews of Sim 2 seem favorable, but somewhat lateral.  Same as 410 to 425.  In case of the Sim I am reading incrementally better, and in Pings case perhaps marginally a step backwards. 
 

I would appreciate any further takes.  
 

thanks

Edited January 24, 2021 by onafriday

[Joe Jordan]

This is the best most honest review I’ve seen on the Ping G425. Crossfield “who is sponsored by Srixon” said that if you are buying a driver this year, you MUST try the Ping G425! I would say that is a big and bold statement.

[Georgewang]

45 minutes ago, Joe Jordan said:

This is the best most honest review I’ve seen on the Ping G425. Crossfield “who is sponsored by Srixon” said that if you are buying a driver this year, you MUST try the Ping G425! I would say that is a big and bold statement.

Cuz we all know if ur sponsored by one company u can’t be paid by anyone else?

[Red4282]

Distance (low spin)- sim2>g425

forgiveness - g425>sim2

looks- wash

sound- sim2>g425

Adjustability- g425>sim2

 

honestly, id just look at SIM 1 or g410... just as good but cheaper.

[Red4282]

7 hours ago, Georgewang said:

Cuz we all know if ur sponsored by one company u can’t be paid by anyone else?

Lol wut

[dmeeksDC]

9 hours ago, Georgewang said:

Cuz we all know if ur sponsored by one company u can’t be paid by anyone else?

Would be highly unlikely his Srixon contract would allow that. He is simply saying the Ping G425 is one of the best drivers, which it is. 

[Joe Jordan]

9 hours ago, dmeeksDC said:

Would be highly unlikely his Srixon contract would allow that. He is simply saying the Ping G425 is one of the best drivers, which it is. 

Exactly my thoughts 

[Georgewang]

3 hours ago, Joe Jordan said:

Exactly my thoughts 

Yeah mine too.  Cuz we all know what that contract says.

[golfer55082]

13 hours ago, dmeeksDC said:

Would be highly unlikely his Srixon contract would allow that. He is simply saying the Ping G425 is one of the best drivers, which it is. 

IMHO Equipment reviewers should be prohibited from signing equipment contracts to avoid conflict of interest.  Other than Crossfield, who else has equipment contacts?  How about TXG and Rick Shields? I hope they do not.  

[lordemsworth]

Shiels looks to be sponsored by Nike, but I think he chooses his own clubs (no club contract).  To be honest, I’m not sure it matters - we look for things in all the reviews (spin, launch, comments on feel) and end up comparing against each of them.

 

They all have their strengths and weaknesses -

I like Dan Hendrickson 

 

Mark Crossfield (Lockey has a Callaway bias - but he is open about it, and always provides comparisons against the Callaway in his bag)

 

James Robinson always has the eye-grabbing headline.  If you look at his channel, it would seem he changes clubs almost every day:  best club ever, should this go in my bag, mind blown, etc.

TXG (and now 2nd Swing) provide a bunch of great info - but everything is great, so the criticism is always in comparison (looks, sound, etc).  One thing on TXG that I don’t understand is that 1800 spin level on driver reviews - I’ve got to to believe those aren’t really playable even at Matt’s speed, but what do I know?  
I mean, the Mavrik won the driver bracket in 2020, but when they took that driver to the course, Matt couldn’t keep it in play.  The club reviews in studio only really go so far.

 

Rick Shiels - his most recent driver reviews where he compares previous years is helpful, I think from a context perspective.

 

The Average Golfer - usually pretty fair especially provides insight for those that swing at 98mph for a driver.  His video production is also great.

 

There are others.  Everyone’s mileage may vary.

Edited January 25, 2021 by lordemsworth

[mosesgolf]

I love TM drivers but in recent years I hit more fairways with Ping. I expect the same with the G425s.