Why are we messing with WOLFF's unique swing?

[SwooshLT]

Watching Farmers and Matty has shortened his swing.......WHY? 

[Creedo77]

Could be because of his wrist injury that he WD with today?

[SwooshLT]

15 minutes ago, Creedo77 said:

Could be because of his wrist injury that he WD with today?

 

 

Weird but swing change cause the wrist injury or wrist created new swing thought? 

[dbelles1]

36 minutes ago, SwooshLT said:

 

 

Weird but swing change cause the wrist injury or wrist created new swing thought? 

Injury caused a new swing thought to not put a lot of pressure on the injured hand/wrist messing up his normal swing. 

[Creedo77]

1 hour ago, SwooshLT said:

 

 

Weird but swing change cause the wrist injury or wrist created new swing thought? 

the injury is compensating for what you're seeing with his swing

[GolfTurkey]

One of the commentators said that Wolff was still feeling burnt out although he’d had a break. Burnt out plus injured is not a great combo, hopefully he can work through it soon.

[golfandfishing]

Burned out from what? He played in 21 events last season and has played in 6  this season. That’s hardly a tough go of it for a man that’s not even 22 yet. Going to be a short career for this guy if he’s “burned out”. 

[Sean2]

Fundamentally his swing looked the same to me. 

[Ferguson]

1 hour ago, golfandfishing said:

Burned out from what? He played in 21 events last season and has played in 6  this season. That’s hardly a tough go of it for a man that’s not even 22 yet. Going to be a short career for this guy if he’s “burned out”. 

 

 

As many winter threads go............................steeped in misdirection, fraught with speculation and full of red herrings. 

 

[MMB1500]

[GolfTurkey]

1 hour ago, golfandfishing said:

Burned out from what? He played in 21 events last season and has played in 6  this season. That’s hardly a tough go of it for a man that’s not even 22 yet. Going to be a short career for this guy if he’s “burned out”. 

Don’t know, just relaying what the commentator said. I know some guys find the travelling / living out of hotels / constant media attention lifestyle a lot harder than others.
 

There have been a few international cricketers over the years who have found touring / life on the road so tough that they retire from their national team and just play domestic cricket. Not sure that makes them defective (JT may disagree)

[FakeClubPro]

13 minutes ago, GolfTurkey said:

Don’t know, just relaying what the commentator said. I know some guys find the travelling / living out of hotels / constant media attention lifestyle a lot harder than others.
 

There have been a few international cricketers over the years who have found touring / life on the road so tough that they retire from their national team and just play domestic cricket. Not sure that makes them defective (JT may disagree)

Did Rory jump on a jet from the Middle East where he played last week and flew to Cali?   I respect the European guys who fly around the world for event.   That type of travel is grueling.

[GolfTurkey]

13 minutes ago, FakeClubPro said:

Did Rory jump on a jet from the Middle East where he played last week and flew to Cali?   I respect the European guys who fly around the world for event.   That type of travel is grueling.

Yep, presume so. Travel across multiple time zones kills me, takes me a week to feel human and 2 weeks to feel 100%

[SwooshLT]

2 hours ago, Sean2 said:

Fundamentally his swing looked the same to me. 

shorter than previous.....seems to be standing closer ala Furyk trying to take some of the loop out of it......right elbow looks more tucked......

Edited January 29, 2021 by SwooshLT

[Golfrnut]

50 minutes ago, GolfTurkey said:

Don’t know, just relaying what the commentator said. I know some guys find the travelling / living out of hotels / constant media attention lifestyle a lot harder than others.
 

There have been a few international cricketers over the years who have found touring / life on the road so tough that they retire from their national team and just play domestic cricket. Not sure that makes them defective (JT may disagree)

 

Colt mentioned something yesterday about Matt showing him his hands and they were beat up from what I assume to be practicing a lot.  Perhaps trying to change something.

 

Sidebar:  First time hearing Colt do on course commentary yesterday.  Wasn't bad at all in my opinion for being new.  I'm not sure it's all him as I think he is playing off the verbiage of others that have gone before him...but you have to start somewhere.

[caniac6]

What do you mean "We"? He hasn't called me for any advice.

Edited January 29, 2021 by caniac6

[manku]

8 hours ago, FakeClubPro said:

Did Rory jump on a jet from the Middle East where he played last week and flew to Cali?   I respect the European guys who fly around the world for event.   That type of travel is grueling.

 

Being driven in a Escalade/Limo from your five star hotel/rental, right onto the tarmac, into your Gulfstream, and the same upon arrival is NOT grueling.

 

I'm a 55 year old man...not in particularly good shape, have RA (mostly controlled, but still achy on occasion)...I used miles to fly to Manchester a couple years ago and used miles to fly business class...I woke up refreshed having slept flat for 6 hours, and had virtually no jet lag.  First off the plane, my bags were there minutes after arriving and my car service (had a great rate), Audi A8, whisked us to Liverpool for that afternoons Boxing Day game at Anfield.

 

Despite all the commotion that day, I felt incredibly relaxed and pampered.   I could see it getting boring and mundane, especially when tournaments are in dull locations (which is rare).

[Valtiel]

6 hours ago, manku said:

 

Being driven in a Escalade/Limo from your five star hotel/rental, right onto the tarmac, into your Gulfstream, and the same upon arrival is NOT grueling.

 

I'm a 55 year old man...not in particularly good shape, have RA (mostly controlled, but still achy on occasion)...I used miles to fly to Manchester a couple years ago and used miles to fly business class...I woke up refreshed having slept flat for 6 hours, and had virtually no jet lag.  First off the plane, my bags were there minutes after arriving and my car service (had a great rate), Audi A8, whisked us to Liverpool for that afternoons Boxing Day game at Anfield.

 

Despite all the commotion that day, I felt incredibly relaxed and pampered.   I could see it getting boring and mundane, especially when tournaments are in dull locations (which is rare).

Cool, now do that every single week/other week for an entire season while also doing press AND playing golf for 4 consecutive days. I don't reckon your business class jaunt to Liverpool that you did once exactly qualifies you to comment on the stress of pro golf travel. 

[HarringtonREI]

1 hour ago, Valtiel said:

Cool, now do that every single week/other week for an entire season while also doing press AND playing golf for 4 consecutive days. I don't reckon your business class jaunt to Liverpool that you did once exactly qualifies you to comment on the stress of pro golf travel. 

Im nearly 1/2 this guys age you replied to, and he's right, theres a couple times I've been lucky and flown private. Also flew over 200,000 miles a year, and over 100 flights a year before covid for work. The lucky times I got to go private with no airport or headache is hardly difficult at all, night and day, especially if there is a bed on the plane for them. A real bed not an airline seat used for a bed. Sorry, no sympathy, they don't have to book their travel, cars, deal with their baggage, wait at baggage claim, have some jackass coughing, and spilling into your 20" wide seat, finding hotel, finding uber, finding rental, checking into hotel, then do it all again the same or next day. None of the s*** most people that travel for work have to. And many joes that travel for work travel just as much or WAY more than a touring pro has to. I still had to perform my job well, close deals, meetings, reports, etc, traveling or not, didn't matter. If I didn't perform? I get fired..... Just like Matt Wolff will be fired from the tour if he's "burned out" already.

 

I dont reckon the perusing of golfwrx, or golf channel you do, qualify you to comment on how it is to travel as a touring pro? Unless youre one of those undercover tour pros who play on golfwrx. In which case, still no sympathy. lol. 

[Valtiel]

3 minutes ago, HarringtonREI said:

Im nearly 1/2 this guys age you replied to, and he's right, theres a couple times I've been lucky and flown private. Also flew over 200,000 miles a year, and over 100 flights a year before covid for work. The lucky times I got to go private with no airport or headache is hardly difficult at all, night and day, especially if there is a bed on the plane for them. A real bed not an airline seat used for a bed. Sorry, no sympathy, they don't have to book their travel, cars, deal with their baggage, wait at baggage claim, have some jackass coughing, and spilling into your 20" wide seat, finding hotel, finding uber, finding rental, checking into hotel, then do it all again the same or next day. None of the s*** most people that travel for work have to. And many joes that travel for work travel just as much or WAY more than a touring pro has to. I still had to perform my job well, close deals, meetings, reports, etc, traveling or not, didn't matter. If I didn't perform? I get fired..... Just like Matt Wolff will be fired from the tour if he's "burned out" already.

 

I dont reckon the perusing of golfwrx, or golf channel you do, qualify you to comment on how it is to travel as a touring pro? Unless youre one of those undercover tour pros who play on golfwrx. In which case, still no sympathy. lol. 

Sure there are TONS of things they don't have to do which if they did would certainly make it much harder. That doesn't mean it is easy though, especially when it comes to jetlag, any performance related injuries/pain, and the obligations/demands that come with being higher profile. The stresses you describe are certainly real and much more on the mental side, so I would argue that the physical aspect of being a touring pro needs to be taken into account. I would also argue that your experience is completely different than the guy you are agreeing with that seems to think a vacation he took a few years ago qualifies him to comment. It is a burden of proof thing; if Wolff says he is burned out for whatever reason then you better have ample knowledge to somehow claim he is not, or that he is being a baby about it. 

I'm not saying we need to feel any sympathy for the guy or that he is somehow a victim here, just that "yeah, non-stop travel could very easily be tiring" is a much more sane position to take than "BS, they have it easy and I had to walk uphill in the snow both ways for every flight!". 😅

[iBanesto]

21 hours ago, GolfTurkey said:

One of the commentators said that Wolff was still feeling burnt out although he’d had a break. Burnt out plus injured is not a great combo, hopefully he can work through it soon.

 

You never know he may have some other issues going on in his life.

 

Hopefully not and we will see him contending again.

[SwooshLT]

21 hours ago, caniac6 said:

What do you mean "We"? He hasn't called me for any advice.

 

Look up the definition 

[jobin]

Geez, i was going to ask about Wolff's uponto left toe on the backswing, but this thread has gone haywire and towards young men and jet lag.

 

If anyone can provide a clue as to why, or better, what's the function of the tip-toe maneuver, i'd be grateful.  Thnx.

[Hstead]

Matt has been coached by GG for years.  Matt works on his swing with GG constantly.  The title pretends that Matt just swings his swing and has never worked on it or something?  That couldn't be further than the truth.  Matt and GG have put in hundreds if not more hours working on his swing.  No one knows Matt's swing and what makes it work better than GG.  When Matt was playing well last year and the year before, he was also working hard with GG on his swing.

[caniac6]

2 hours ago, SwooshLT said:

 

Look up the definition 

I did, and I still haven't heard many people, including myself, that are trying to change his swing.

[SwooshLT]

29 minutes ago, caniac6 said:

I did, and I still haven't heard many people, including myself, that are trying to change his swing.

 

 

Ok boomer.....you win 

[caniac6]

53 minutes ago, SwooshLT said:

 

 

Ok boomer.....you win 

Thanks. I was just unaware that he, or anyone else was messing with his swing. And, I did not insult you in any response to your original post, and I request that you respond without insults.

Edited January 30, 2021 by caniac6

[SwooshLT]

26 minutes ago, caniac6 said:

Thanks. I was just unaware that he, or anyone else was messing with his swing. And, I did not insult you in any response to your original post, and I request that you respond without insults.

 

 

Or you can just not post in my thread with snarky comments.......your criticism of the title is enough of an "insult"  .....move along

[sonnygolf]

On 1/29/2021 at 2:08 PM, MMB1500 said:

 

It looks awful when he does that squat - so mechincal, not nice and fluid like Snead who he is trying to copy

[sonnygolf]

17 hours ago, Valtiel said:

Cool, now do that every single week/other week for an entire season while also doing press AND playing golf for 4 consecutive days. I don't reckon your business class jaunt to Liverpool that you did once exactly qualifies you to comment on the stress of pro golf travel. 

 

poor old Matt - 20 years old, millions in the bank doing a job he loves - must be a hard life for him. I guess golfwrx pposter are happy they are not in his shoes with that sort of life. lol