The Stack System

[tomba51]

7 hours ago, TheGolfingRealtor said:

Is it overkill to do Super Speed and The Stack System simultaneously? I guess it won't differentiate if one is better than the other.

 

I do Super Speed on M/W/F and The Stack on T/Th/F. 

 

I am two weeks into Super Speed and my number keep going up. I've done the Stack for two sessions and numbers keep getting higher.

 

Should I do both on the same day and take a day of rest in between training sessions for the sake of recovery?

That might be overdoing it. But it might be a good idea to alternate them, with a day off in-between. So Super Speed on Monday, Stack on Wednesday, SS on Friday, Stack on Monday, etc.

[Max21]

10 hours ago, TheGolfingRealtor said:

Is it overkill to do Super Speed and The Stack System simultaneously? I guess it won't differentiate if one is better than the other.

 

I do Super Speed on M/W/F and The Stack on T/Th/F. 

 

I am two weeks into Super Speed and my number keep going up. I've done the Stack for two sessions and numbers keep getting higher.

 

Should I do both on the same day and take a day of rest in between training sessions for the sake of recovery?

 

I do think that it could be overkill as well. I guess it depends on what you are doing. For me I try and do the stack every other day and try and maintain a good grit score. I also workout every day which includes lifting weights, cardio and core workouts (cable rotations, med ball throws, etc) so for me doing the stack and superspeed on top of lifting weights, cardio and core workouts is a lot.

[Max21]

Just a little update on my progress. Last December (12/31) when I started Fit for Golf I took a baseline of my swing speed and i was at 92 mph average on 10 swings with my lowest speed being 89mph. I started the stack in May and I just finished my second go around with the foundations program and my driver baseline now is 109mph with my fastest being 113mph. The next program it recommended for me was the neural drive so I am excited to change it up and gain more speed.

[blues72]

12 hours ago, Max21 said:

Just a little update on my progress. Last December (12/31) when I started Fit for Golf I took a baseline of my swing speed and i was at 92 mph average on 10 swings with my lowest speed being 89mph. I started the stack in May and I just finished my second go around with the foundations program and my driver baseline now is 109mph with my fastest being 113mph. The next program it recommended for me was the neural drive so I am excited to change it up and gain more speed.

Man that is awesome!!  Great work.  Do you feel the stack system justifies its premium price tag?

[JDIL]

On 10/6/2021 at 7:48 PM, dsmil said:

Nope

 

 

Never understood non-dominant swing. Do baseball pitchers and quarterbacks throw left handed, soccer players placekickers and punters, etc.

[TheGolfingRealtor]

13 hours ago, Max21 said:

 

I do think that it could be overkill as well. I guess it depends on what you are doing. For me I try and do the stack every other day and try and maintain a good grit score. I also workout every day which includes lifting weights, cardio and core workouts (cable rotations, med ball throws, etc) so for me doing the stack and superspeed on top of lifting weights, cardio and core workouts is a lot.

I've lost a lot of speed, just want to get it back. With Super Speed I started at 92 mph, two weeks later I recorded my highest speed at 107. 

 

I have a long way to go with both programs. Plus I am also using the Golf Forever app to gain mobility, flexibility and core strength.

[Max21]

On 10/8/2021 at 10:45 PM, blues72 said:

Man that is awesome!!  Great work.  Do you feel the stack system justifies its premium price tag?

Thank you!! Ive never used super speed before so can't speak to that but with the speed I've gained this past summer and my handicap trending down it has been very worth it for me. The app really also makes the product so much better/worth it in my opinion

[Myherobobhope]

3 hours ago, Max21 said:

Thank you!! Ive never used super speed before so can't speak to that but with the speed I've gained this past summer and my handicap trending down it has been very worth it for me. The app really also makes the product so much better/worth it in my opinion

I'm really interested in doing some speed training this off season, and I'm sold on the stack system... the thing that stinks for both of them is you have to pay the $100-200 for a radar to track your swing speed!

 

I'm thinking I will pick up the PRGR and the Stack System for $600 and not buy a new driver this season.

[dillardiv]

18 hours ago, Myherobobhope said:

I'm really interested in doing some speed training this off season, and I'm sold on the stack system... the thing that stinks for both of them is you have to pay the $100-200 for a radar to track your swing speed!

 

I'm thinking I will pick up the PRGR and the Stack System for $600 and not buy a new driver this season.

I recently paid $150 for a used PRGR, FYI.

[xmanhockey7]

20 hours ago, Myherobobhope said:

I'm really interested in doing some speed training this off season, and I'm sold on the stack system... the thing that stinks for both of them is you have to pay the $100-200 for a radar to track your swing speed!

 

I'm thinking I will pick up the PRGR and the Stack System for $600 and not buy a new driver this season.

Honestly, if people buy nothing else I’d recommend they get some sort of radar system to track speed overtime. Just swinging your driver faster and getting feedback will lead to gains. 

[dillardiv]

How much has everyone tested the "Distance Potential" against on-course results or a high-end launch monitor?

[Max21]

40 minutes ago, dillardiv said:

How much has everyone tested the "Distance Potential" against on-course results or a high-end launch monitor?

I have not yet. Will start getting on a launch monitor once winter hits but have to keep in mind how distance potential is calculated:

 

For the Distance Potential metric, we use the following:

• 90° F temperature
• 1,000 ft. elevation
• Total distance (carry + roll)
• Moderately firm fairways
• Neutral Angle of Attack
• Optimized launch conditions (club fitting efficiency)
• 2019 ProV1x Ball

Edited October 12, 2021 by Max21
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[NoCalHack]

I am 1/3 of the way through foundation and I'm impressed.  The speed is steadily ratcheting up an I've gone up 5mph already.  

 

Before I tried the Stack, I bought but never used the speed sticks.  

 

A few things I can say about the Stack.

 

-  The training program is the reason I bought it.  It conveniently tracks how fast you are at each weight at each session because you enter (dictate) each speed.  The app tells you to rest between sets and tells you how much to rest between swings.  I don't believe any other program actually mandates rest between swings, which I feel is pretty important.  If you just swing away repeatedly, you will get tired quick.  The training regimen is slightly different every time, and I think there's rhyme and reason to it.  Most sessions I break personal records for one of the weights and eventually I will surpass personal records for all of them.

 

-  I wondered if these things help you with your technique or your strength.  The answer to me is clearly both.  My muscles feel sore afterwards, but I feel that my technique is evolving as I experiment with different things that can help me.  After a training session, I will take a few swings for experimental purposes to see if technical tweaks work.  I think personal experimentation with technique helps get the most out of this or any speed training app.

 

 

People ask about whether it translates on the course.  I 100% believe to will although I haven't been on a launch monitor or played enough on the course to gauge how long I'm hitting it.  I was swinging as hard as I possibly could during the first session, and I'm swinging as hard as I could now.  My swing objectively got 5mph faster.  And its not because I am practicing how to swing wildly.  Anyone who has ever got on a swing speed tester knows that effort doesn't make you swing faster.  Wild swings in fact usually slow you down.  My swing now is technically more sound and faster.  No question about it.  

 

[dillardiv]

Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% on board with the system/product. Eagerly awaiting my package this week! Combining it with a renewed enthusiasm for deadlifts and squats.

[HitSomeMissSome]

11 hours ago, dillardiv said:

I recently paid $150 for a used PRGR, FYI.

I like it, too. Good product.

 

 I have a TM and a Quad I use w my students, but the PRGR is very good for the money. 

[HitSomeMissSome]

On 10/11/2021 at 11:35 AM, Myherobobhope said:

I'm really interested in doing some speed training this off season, and I'm sold on the stack system... the thing that stinks for both of them is you have to pay the $100-200 for a radar to track your swing speed!

 

I'm thinking I will pick up the PRGR and the Stack System for $600 and not buy a new driver this season.

 

Great investment! Excellent product, but the app is what makes it special. You'll like the PRGR unit, too. 

[appilags]

Not regretting this purchase so far!

[Max21]

4 hours ago, appilags said:

Not regretting this purchase so far!

 

Good stuff, enjoy the ride

[Seamus_McDuff]

Sometimes I feel like I’m regressing. 

[dillardiv]

I'm discovering that I have a LONG way to go in optimizing ball speed relative to how fast I swing it AND trying to improve on-course speed vs. my Stack workouts.

 

Baseline dry driver swings were ~105 mph. On-course I'm more like 95-98 but only getting totals of 235-240. Feel like there's some potential in there.

Edited October 20, 2021 by dillardiv

[thigos]

21 hours ago, Seamus_McDuff said:

Sometimes I feel like I’m regressing. 

 

 

I don't see how this protocol could reduce speed.  Is this your first phase?  Also, are you going into all the sessions recovered and with decent energy?

 

I am only 5 sessions in, so am really asking out of curiosity.  Hopefully your progress picks back up.  Sasho mentions breaking through plateaus and then maintaining for a while before another break through.  Only time will tell.  Stick with the process.

[Seamus_McDuff]

2 hours ago, thigos said:

 

I don't see how this protocol could reduce speed.  Is this your first phase?  Also, are you going into all the sessions recovered and with decent energy?

 

I am only 5 sessions in, so am really asking out of curiosity.  Hopefully your progress picks back up.  Sasho mentions breaking through plateaus and then maintaining for a while before another break through.  Only time will tell.  Stick with the process.

End of phase 2, fully recovered, plenty of energy. Tomorrow will be first session of phase 3. 

[HitSomeMissSome]

8 hours ago, dillardiv said:

I'm discovering that I have a LONG way to go in optimizing ball speed relative to how fast I swing it AND trying to improve on-course speed vs. my Stack workouts.

 

Baseline dry driver swings were ~105 mph. On-course I'm more like 95-98 but only getting totals of 235-240. Feel like there's some potential in there.

Speed and delivered efficiency are two separate things. I love the Stack, but it doesn’t have a face on it, and thus why a lot of golfers “love” the feel of there practice swings vs swings over a ball. Good luck and keep at it. 

[Max21]

Decided to up the cable rotations and medicine ball throws/workouts this week to get over the plateau and had a nice little breakthrough today

 

[JDIL]

I have a blue SSR. Is the PRGR better? I only need it for swing speed. Have a GC2 already 

[puresurfr]

I was just about to order one and saw that there was a box for discount codes....Has anybody had success with getting a discount ?

[HiTrajLoSpin]

On 10/22/2021 at 10:36 PM, puresurfr said:

I was just about to order one and saw that there was a box for discount codes....Has anybody had success with getting a discount ?

BDGOLF worked for me (10% discount)

[puresurfr]

11 hours ago, HiTrajLoSpin said:

BDGOLF worked for me (10% discount)

 

THANK YOU !!!!! 

Yes it worked for me as well

[dsmil]

On 10/22/2021 at 2:06 PM, JDIL said:

I have a blue SSR. Is the PRGR better? I only need it for swing speed. Have a GC2 already 

 

Yes, I believe that PRGR is more accurate and consistent.  I've heard that SSR overstates swing speed by quite a bit and isn't as consistent.

[JDIL]

On 10/26/2021 at 10:39 AM, dsmil said:

 

Yes, I believe that PRGR is more accurate and consistent.  I've heard that SSR overstates swing speed by quite a bit and isn't as consistent.

Well I heard the Mevo might do swing speed without a ball, so I might just hold out for now and see what they offer. But thanks for the info. May just sell my SSR for now.