What Raynors courses can someone actually join?

[monty09]

Camargo and Fishers are not on most peoples list....   Fox Chapel is $$$

Edited April 13, 2021 by monty09

[mp32-2up]

Midland Hills in MN. Fully restored in a couple months too.

[henniga]

5 hours ago, mp32-2up said:

Midland Hills in MN. Fully restored in a couple months too.

Yep. I’m a member at Midland Hills. Front 9 opening this week. Back 9 will open in a few weeks. 

[RichieHunt]

Thousand Islands Golf Club - Old Course.

 

 

 

 

 

RH

[darom86]

Forsgate in NJ comes to mind

[dokex]

The Elkridge club outside Baltimore, Md.

[Luke.Sutton]

Lookout Mountain, Mountain Lake, maybe Blue Mound? 

[sabram]

OP - What do you mean by "actually join"?

 

PS, you may want to correct the thread's title to "Raynor"

[teejaywhy]

 

On 4/5/2021 at 12:12 PM, mp32-2up said:

Midland Hills in MN. Fully restored in a couple months too.

 

23 hours ago, henniga said:

Yep. I’m a member at Midland Hills. Front 9 opening this week. Back 9 will open in a few weeks. 

 

Exciting stuff for you guys!   I was interested in who is leading the restoration and with some searching, discovered that it is Jim Urbina.  I also found this great article about the discovery of some of the original drawings a few years back that are guiding the project:

https://golf.com/travel/seth-raynor-map-found-midland-hills/

 

 

[me05501]

Lookout Mountain is an interesting Raynor course. Very challenging. Definitely a mountain course. Overall I think it would be somewhat underwhelming for a player looking for a non-local membership. 

 

They've had financial struggles over the years which is kind of inexcusable considering the wealth in that area. Many serious golfers who live nearby play more at Chattanooga G&CC or The Honors Course and use Lookout Mountain as a backup. 

 

A few years back the nearby Fairyland Club and the Golf Club combined their operations and membership, so now if you belong to one you belong to the other. Fairyland is more of a tennis/pool/dinner/social club with incredible brow views. Not sure how a non-resident membership package might look. 

[Seth Pistol]

Rock Spring in NJ.  public course.

[vallygolf]

19 hours ago, teejaywhy said:

 

 

 

Exciting stuff for you guys!   I was interested in who is leading the restoration and with some searching, discovered that it is Jim Urbina.  I also found this great article about the discovery of some of the original drawings a few years back that are guiding the project:

https://golf.com/travel/seth-raynor-map-found-midland-hills/

 

 

Some people go down tik tok rabbit holes for hours.....mine is golf architecture.  Cool find.

[putterboy75]

None, if you can't spell his name correctly stick to 1990s golf course housing communities

[GWfool]

As many pointed out, its Raynor. Metairie Country Club is undergoing the full Brian Silva restoration right now. Will have a 68 yard biarritz green.

[storm3]

On 4/5/2021 at 2:12 PM, mp32-2up said:

Midland Hills in MN. Fully restored in a couple months too.

Minnesota Valley CC as well

[Jersey golfer]

On 4/6/2021 at 8:05 AM, darom86 said:

Forsgate in NJ comes to mind

Forsgate has 2 courses. One was orignally  designed by Hal Purdy and the other was designed by CS Banks. As far as I know Raynor had nothing to do with Forsgate.

[darom86]

14 minutes ago, Jersey golfer said:

Forsgate has 2 courses. One was orignally  designed by Hal Purdy and the other was designed by CS Banks. As far as I know Raynor had nothing to do with Forsgate.

The mind isn't what it used to be - you are correct.

 

After some googling:  Banks worked with Raynor (and Macdonald), including on Mid Ocean, Yale, and Yeamans Hall, and carried on ten of his projects after Raynor died in 1926.  Forsgate was not one of these projects, which came to Banks on his own in 1930.  It seems Banks died the year Forsgate opened (1931) and Forsgate is one of the rare quality designs that emerged in the midst of the Great Depression.

 

 

 

[Jersey golfer]

On 4/7/2021 at 2:05 PM, Seth Pistol said:

Rock Spring in NJ.  public course.

Have you played Rock Spring this year yet? Played it twice last year and will definitely go back several times this year if conditions are decent. A lot of optical subtleties that you need to be aware of. Really enjoyed the course.

[Seth Pistol]

13 hours ago, Jersey golfer said:

Have you played Rock Spring this year yet? Played it twice last year and will definitely go back several times this year if conditions are decent. A lot of optical subtleties that you need to be aware of. Really enjoyed the course.

havent gone yet.  just aerated like 2 weeks after opening so waiting it out.  buddy played it before the aeration and said was good but hes also never played it before.

 

got beat up later in season last year.  also, the secret of rock spring got out.  was easy to book a tee time early season unlike other local courses that were packed) bc you have to book directly on their site but late in the season, tee times were hard to come by (like everywhere else).

[teejaywhy]

Following along with interest.   The Rock Spring web site says it is only one of two Raynor courses open to the public.  Which is the other?

 

 

[Schley]

Someone please change the title to Raynor!

[teejaywhy]

A for effort, I guess.   It's Raynor, not Raynors.   🤪

[sabram]

22 hours ago, teejaywhy said:

A for effort, I guess.   It's Raynor, not Raynors.   🤪

Maybe "Which of Raynor's courses..."

[cacophony82]

Lookout non resident was very reasonable last year when I considered it.  They are close to doing a full master plan with Gil Hanse - love Chattanooga but can’t get that way enough 

[jallen0119]

On 4/15/2021 at 10:25 PM, cacophony82 said:

Lookout non resident was very reasonable last year when I considered it.  They are close to doing a full master plan with Gil Hanse - love Chattanooga but can’t get that way enough 

I would be interested to see what Hanse could do for Lookout. I like the course, but I find several of the holes rather bland. 

[DoubleorQuits]

Kyle Franz I has been hired to implement the Hanse plan at Lookout.  

[me05501]

If Hanse (or his company) could do to Lookout what they did at Sewanee it would be worth every penny.  

[Tim_Gavrich]

On 4/13/2021 at 9:24 AM, teejaywhy said:

Following along with interest.   The Rock Spring web site says it is only one of two Raynor courses open to the public.  Which is the other?

 

 

Greenbrier - Old White. There was speculation that Raynor did some amount of work up at Thousand Islands CC in far upstate NY, but that appears not to be the case. Also, Raynor (not Donald Ross, as many think) originally laid out Lake Wales CC here in Florida, but there's not really anything that distinguishes the course as his creation. Greenbrier Old White is wonderful, though. Expensive, but wonderful.

[sabram]

3 minutes ago, Tim_Gavrich said:

Greenbrier - Old White. There was speculation that Raynor did some amount of work up at Thousand Islands CC in far upstate NY, but that appears not to be the case. Also, Raynor (not Donald Ross, as many think) originally laid out Lake Wales CC here in Florida, but there's not really anything that distinguishes the course as his creation. Greenbrier Old White is wonderful, though. Expensive, but wonderful.

Click on a photo below for course photos of Rock Spring, Greenbrier Old White and Lake Wales

 

 

Greenbrier - Old White

 

Rock Spring

 

 

Lake Wales

 

[CactusGolf]

Bluemound Golf & CC in Wauwatosa, WI.  I grew up caddying there and that's still one of my favorite courses.