Could you break 100 at Kiawah in its current setup?

[SBH9458]

No chance at all for me. Self truth telling. 

[jons1]

a lot of these courses it's not the tee to green that kills people, if you have some course management.  it's on and around the greens that causes most of the grief for people.  add in the wind, if you aren't use to that, and it could escalate on a few holes quickly. 

[MUNIGRIT]

6 hours ago, jons1 said:

Seriously?  I could easily break 100 at Kiawah.  Activate the calves, hit some bombs, and next thing you know I'm shooting 105, maybe 110.  Breaking 100 is stupid easy.  High score wins right? 

You forgot the coffee!

[tacklingdummy]

In the current state of my game with bad elbow tendonitis. No. When I was playing my best at scratch. Yes. 

[doublepar93]

Nah. 200 Maybe

[butterysnaphook]

I believe I could. GHIN is 0.5 currently. I hit it pretty long and my misses go pretty straight.  I'm good at all facets of the game but not amazing at any one thing in particular. A well rounded golfer under a 2 handicap should be able to break 100.

Edited May 26, 2021 by butterysnaphook

[nosedive32]

Appropriate tee box yes, tournament tees probably not but I could keep it close.

[CT007]

I played there in Feb.  Dye tees.   Its a typical Dye course,  some shots require significant carry and some are deceptive, more room than appears 

 

My take away was the wind - its not normal wind we all play that often.

 

We were convinced it was blowing 20 mph +/-   Our caddy , who was very good, laughed at us.  Said it was 8-10.  Some gusts but not that much. We said no way.  We pulled up a weather app on phone - 8 mph +/- 

 

He said anyone tells you they play in 25 mph winds is lying,  its way too tough.  Happens , but not that often 

 

As it is right along ocean, with no breaks, trees, you are feeling that wind on every shot.  Its tough. Very tough. 

 

The difficulty is off the tee,  there is room to hit the fairways , but nearly all misses are a reload, chop it out - they are full 1 to 2 shot  penalties.  

 

The greens are not that fast,  8 I’d guess.  ( I regularly play on 12+/- stimp greens)   They are manageable, but the slopes and humps, place a premium on getting to correct section of the green.   Our caddy, said they just cant get the greens too fast there due to slope and wind.

 

I know some buddy’s that played few years back from tips.  All but 1 broke 80, and their caps were 1-6 range 

 

I’d say single digit caps can - but not those over 10

[Ri_Redneck]

21 hours ago, SlickT73 said:

ACK!! I hadn’t seen that. That’s awful.

 

Hopefully someone buys it but I have a hard time seeing that.

 

Shot 68 there in 2010. One of my very finest rounds.

Yeah, I was pretty upset when I heard. Currently, the guy that ran the golf instructional program there is keeping the front 9 open for his students (he has a pretty sizable group). The church that owns the property said it's still up in the air what will come of it. I'm just glad I got to play there with my Dad (84) one last time in '18. Didn't play from the tips that day and it made a difference. Amazingly beautiful place!

 

BT

[Ri_Redneck]

1 hour ago, CT007 said:

I played there in Feb.  Dye tees.   Its a typical Dye course,  some shots require significant carry and some are deceptive, more room than appears 

 

My take away was the wind - its not normal wind we all play that often.

 

We were convinced it was blowing 20 mph +/-   Our caddy , who was very good, laughed at us.  Said it was 8-10.  Some gusts but not that much. We said no way.  We pulled up a weather app on phone - 8 mph +/- 

 

He said anyone tells you they play in 25 mph winds is lying,  its way too tough.  Happens , but not that often 

 

As it is right along ocean, with no breaks, trees, you are feeling that wind on every shot.  Its tough. Very tough. 

 

The difficulty is off the tee,  there is room to hit the fairways , but nearly all misses are a reload, chop it out - they are full 1 to 2 shot  penalties.  

 

The greens are not that fast,  8 I’d guess.  ( I regularly play on 12+/- stimp greens)   They are manageable, but the slopes and humps, place a premium on getting to correct section of the green.   Our caddy, said they just cant get the greens too fast there due to slope and wind.

 

I know some buddy’s that played few years back from tips.  All but 1 broke 80, and their caps were 1-6 range 

 

I’d say single digit caps can - but not those over 10

Correct. Most wind we encounter is intermittent wind. We've all heard the comment, "It's blowing a lot more above the trees!", yeah, take away the trees and you get the full affect. I carry an anemometer to verify actual wind speed when I arrive at the course on windy days (yeah, I get some funny looks). It's literally hard to walk straight in 20+ winds. Where people screw up is they look at the weather and decide to not even play when they could enjoy a challenging round on a virtually empty golf course. At Kiawah and other courses with forced carries, the management typically sets the tees more forward on forced carry holes into the wind. I have a customer from Virginia that insists on playing from the back edge of the rear tee every time we play. I only play a couple times a year with him, but it still gets old. It calls for a completely different strategy. I've played onto an adjacent hole when I had a hazard I couldn't clear. No way to shoot a good score, but you can get around okay.

 

I didn't mention in my other posts, but I have gotten my SS up to around 113 (not bad at 58!) for the last year & a half and the driving game has gotten tons better. HCP has fallen some too. It was all sequencing and just swinging freely. It ends up I have been unconsciously trying to steer the ball all my life. Who knew?

 

BT

Edited May 26, 2021 by Ri_Redneck

[CROUSE99]

Hell, I couldn't even play the course as set up.  I probably couldn't reach a lot of the fairways from the tees they play. 

[MattyO1984]

If I was not shooting less than a 100 anywhere, I am giving my clubs away.