Masters Ticket Scalpers

[dmbolp]

2 hours later:

 

- 35 more tickets to inventory

- $0 drop for MON

- $10 drop for TUE

- $295 drop for WED

 

	MON		TUE		WED
	#	Low	#	Low	#	Low	Total #
3/16 10AM	109	39 @ 1,000-1,300	186	36 @ 1,300-1,400	161	32 @ 1,800-2,000	456
3/16 9PM	110	38 @ 975-1,300	201	34 @ 1,100-1,300	183	43 @ 1,675-1,800	494
3/17 6AM	124	48 @ 975-1,300	205	40 @ 1,100-1,300	193	37 @ 1,675-1,800	522
3/17 3PM	173	43 @ 900-1,200	229	42 @ 985-1,200	221	27 @ 1,640-1,700	623
3/17 5PM	188	58 @ 900-1,200	257	67 @ 875-1,200	221	33 @ 1,500-1,700	666
3/17 8PM	221	66 @ 750-1,000	279	61 @ 875-1,100	256	50 @ 1,500-1,700	756
3/18 8AM	249	60 @ 700-900	304	41 @ 840-950	275	36 @ 1,390-1,600	828
3/18 10AM	263	37 @ 575-700	299	45 @ 795-900	285	36 @ 1,295-1,500	847
3/18 Noon	273	30 @ 575-700	312	53 @ 785-900	297	36 @ 1,000-1,400	882

Edited March 18, 2022 by dmbolp

[dmbolp]

24 hours after most folks have received their tickets, so I think we've seen all the big drops in pricing that we'll see.  We'll still see smaller drops, but folks will buy the big drops, and we'll probably only see gradual drops now.  And as inventory bottoms out in a week or so we will probably see prices rise.

[dmbolp]

Over 1,000 practice round tickets on Stubhub.  I'm only interested in Monday so please leave me the cheapest ones 🙂

 

	MON		TUE		WED
	#	Low	#	Low	#	Low	Total #
3/15	83	24 @ 1,250-1,400	177	26 @ 1,300-1,400	122	27 @ 2,000-2,100	382
3/16 7AM	107	30 @ 1,000-1,300	176	31 @ 1,300-1,400	147	32 @ 1,800-2,000	430
3/16 10AM	109	39 @ 1,000-1,300	186	36 @ 1,300-1,400	161	32 @ 1,800-2,000	456
3/16 9PM	110	38 @ 975-1,300	201	34 @ 1,100-1,300	183	43 @ 1,675-1,800	494
3/17 6AM	124	48 @ 975-1,300	205	40 @ 1,100-1,300	193	37 @ 1,675-1,800	522
3/17 3PM	173	43 @ 900-1,200	229	42 @ 985-1,200	221	27 @ 1,640-1,700	623
3/17 5PM	188	58 @ 900-1,200	257	67 @ 875-1,200	221	33 @ 1,500-1,700	666
3/17 8PM	221	66 @ 750-1,000	279	61 @ 875-1,100	256	50 @ 1,500-1,700	756
3/18 8AM	249	60 @ 700-900	304	41 @ 840-950	275	36 @ 1,390-1,600	828
3/18 10AM	263	37 @ 575-700	299	45 @ 795-900	285	36 @ 1,295-1,500	847
3/18 Noon	273	30 @ 575-700	312	53 @ 785-900	297	36 @ 1,000-1,400	882
3/19 8AM	277	32 @ 675-700	351	35 @ 750-800	341	42 @ 1,100-1,300	969
3/19 8AM	293	49 @ 644-700	367	41 @ 700-800	342	31 @ 1,100-1,200	1002

[JPay]

1 hour ago, dmbolp said:

Over 1,000 practice round tickets on Stubhub.  I'm only interested in Monday so please leave me the cheapest ones 🙂

 

 

	MON		TUE		WED
	#	Low	#	Low	#	Low	Total #
3/15	83	24 @ 1,250-1,400	177	26 @ 1,300-1,400	122	27 @ 2,000-2,100	382
3/16 7AM	107	30 @ 1,000-1,300	176	31 @ 1,300-1,400	147	32 @ 1,800-2,000	430
3/16 10AM	109	39 @ 1,000-1,300	186	36 @ 1,300-1,400	161	32 @ 1,800-2,000	456
3/16 9PM	110	38 @ 975-1,300	201	34 @ 1,100-1,300	183	43 @ 1,675-1,800	494
3/17 6AM	124	48 @ 975-1,300	205	40 @ 1,100-1,300	193	37 @ 1,675-1,800	522
3/17 3PM	173	43 @ 900-1,200	229	42 @ 985-1,200	221	27 @ 1,640-1,700	623
3/17 5PM	188	58 @ 900-1,200	257	67 @ 875-1,200	221	33 @ 1,500-1,700	666
3/17 8PM	221	66 @ 750-1,000	279	61 @ 875-1,100	256	50 @ 1,500-1,700	756
3/18 8AM	249	60 @ 700-900	304	41 @ 840-950	275	36 @ 1,390-1,600	828
3/18 10AM	263	37 @ 575-700	299	45 @ 795-900	285	36 @ 1,295-1,500	847
3/18 Noon	273	30 @ 575-700	312	53 @ 785-900	297	36 @ 1,000-1,400	882
3/19 8AM	277	32 @ 675-700	351	35 @ 750-800	341	42 @ 1,100-1,300	969
3/19 8AM	293	49 @ 644-700	367	41 @ 700-800	342	31 @ 1,100-1,200	1002

I need 4 Monday so get at least 5 please. 

[Greg Russell]

Question. I bought Mon & Tues on SH. What exactly is the "hospitality" tickets thats available for like $300.. I know its food and open bar, but what is it all about? Do you need a tix for that day? Thank you.

[dmbolp]

7 hours ago, Greg Russell said:

Question. I bought Mon & Tues on SH. What exactly is the "hospitality" tickets thats available for like $300.. I know its food and open bar, but what is it all about? Do you need a tix for that day? Thank you.

 

No course ticket needed.  Sold directly from Stubhub (not a listing from some random seller like all other listings) and I think they drop the price as the day gets close.  Rented house/venue/lot just outside the back gate.  I wouldn't spend a second in there if I had a badge to get onto the course; would spend the $300 inside the course instead.

 

 

[dmbolp]

Inventory still increasing and prices still dropping; it's a beautiful sight 🙂

 

	MON		TUE		WED
	#	Low	#	Low	#	Low	Total #
3/15	83	24 @ 1,250-1,400	177	26 @ 1,300-1,400	122	27 @ 2,000-2,100	382
3/16 7AM	107	30 @ 1,000-1,300	176	31 @ 1,300-1,400	147	32 @ 1,800-2,000	430
3/16 10AM	109	39 @ 1,000-1,300	186	36 @ 1,300-1,400	161	32 @ 1,800-2,000	456
3/16 9PM	110	38 @ 975-1,300	201	34 @ 1,100-1,300	183	43 @ 1,675-1,800	494
3/17 6AM	124	48 @ 975-1,300	205	40 @ 1,100-1,300	193	37 @ 1,675-1,800	522
3/17 3PM	173	43 @ 900-1,200	229	42 @ 985-1,200	221	27 @ 1,640-1,700	623
3/17 5PM	188	58 @ 900-1,200	257	67 @ 875-1,200	221	33 @ 1,500-1,700	666
3/17 8PM	221	66 @ 750-1,000	279	61 @ 875-1,100	256	50 @ 1,500-1,700	756
3/18 8AM	249	60 @ 700-900	304	41 @ 840-950	275	36 @ 1,390-1,600	828
3/18 10AM	263	37 @ 575-700	299	45 @ 795-900	285	36 @ 1,295-1,500	847
3/18 Noon	273	30 @ 575-700	312	53 @ 785-900	297	36 @ 1,000-1,400	882
3/19 8AM	277	32 @ 675-700	351	35 @ 750-800	341	42 @ 1,100-1,300	969
3/19 1PM	293	49 @ 644-700	367	41 @ 700-800	342	31 @ 1,100-1,200	1002
3/20 8AM	310	34 @ 550-650	378	39 @ 675-750	349	38 @ 994-1,200	1037

[Harmon25]

If I buy from Stubhub can someone remind me how pickup works? Would they ship or do I need to goto the in person Stubhub location in Augusta?

 

Looking at Wednesday tickets and curious how I would pickup. If it was same day, I’d like to be there as early as possible. 

[jeffc]

3 hours ago, Harmon25 said:

If I buy from Stubhub can someone remind me how pickup works? Would they ship or do I need to goto the in person Stubhub location in Augusta?

 

Looking at Wednesday tickets and curious how I would pickup. If it was same day, I’d like to be there as early as possible. 

The tickets are sent to your address using UPS via a shipping label that Stubhub provides to the seller. Turnaround time is a couple of days if the person ships right away.

 

You can call Stubhub support if the shipping looks super close in terms of timing and they will contact the seller to see if they can expedite the shipping.

Edited March 21, 2022 by jeffc

[JPay]

11 hours ago, Harmon25 said:

If I buy from Stubhub can someone remind me how pickup works? Would they ship or do I need to goto the in person Stubhub location in Augusta?

 

Looking at Wednesday tickets and curious how I would pickup. If it was same day, I’d like to be there as early as possible. 

StubHub will have a “last minute services” address at a nearby hotel for late purchases. The cutoff will come up soon.  

[JPay]

In the past I could buy Monday tickets in Augusta on Sunday night for $100. I’m gaining hope that $200 or lower will be attainable.  

[dmbolp]

45 minutes ago, JPay said:

StubHub will have a “last minute services” address at a nearby hotel for late purchases. The cutoff will come up soon. 

 

Same house they've always used, near the parking lot and back entrance, it's in the link in the 2nd post in this thread.  Can confirm by selecting a tournament round listing on Stubhb, hit CHECKOUT, but don't complete the checkout. 

[Big Cat 3]

On 3/1/2022 at 10:48 AM, bladehunter said:

Maybe so.  At face value for sure.  But I’m just not convinced at $2k a pop.  Or near that.  Tv quality is too good . At any rate. I still hope to get picked one day and see the place.  At this point I have a sneaking suspicion that it will be a letdown anyway. With this much buildup , I’d be shocked if it left me satisfied.  But I’d be happy to be wrong.  At any rate. I’m not paying scalpers prices to find out , especially in today’s economy.  

You will not be disappointed the first time ... or even the 5th time like for me this year. This will be my 1st Sunday. Have always attended Thurs-Sat. Do it, at least once,even at 2k ( which is cheap lol ) you will enjoy it.

[bladehunter]

1 hour ago, Big Cat 3 said:

You will not be disappointed the first time ... or even the 5th time like for me this year. This will be my 1st Sunday. Have always attended Thurs-Sat. Do it, at least once,even at 2k ( which is cheap lol ) you will enjoy it.

Eh. I appreciate the thought. But I doubt it.  Consumables in that price range are like holding a snake to some people.  Makes my skin crawl.    But it’s literally out of the question in this economy. Likely be several years before it’s even a thought I consider.  Most likely never.  

[dmbolp]

Inventory for all 3 days all down for the first time in a week

 

Low price for all 3 days heading back up

 

 

	MON		TUE		WED
	#	Low	#	Low	#	Low	Total #
3/15	83	24 @ 1,250-1,400	177	26 @ 1,300-1,400	122	27 @ 2,000-2,100	382
3/16 7AM	107	30 @ 1,000-1,300	176	31 @ 1,300-1,400	147	32 @ 1,800-2,000	430
3/16 10AM	109	39 @ 1,000-1,300	186	36 @ 1,300-1,400	161	32 @ 1,800-2,000	456
3/16 9PM	110	38 @ 975-1,300	201	34 @ 1,100-1,300	183	43 @ 1,675-1,800	494
3/17 6AM	124	48 @ 975-1,300	205	40 @ 1,100-1,300	193	37 @ 1,675-1,800	522
3/17 3PM	173	43 @ 900-1,200	229	42 @ 985-1,200	221	27 @ 1,640-1,700	623
3/17 5PM	188	58 @ 900-1,200	257	67 @ 875-1,200	221	33 @ 1,500-1,700	666
3/17 8PM	221	66 @ 750-1,000	279	61 @ 875-1,100	256	50 @ 1,500-1,700	756
3/18 8AM	249	60 @ 700-900	304	41 @ 840-950	275	36 @ 1,390-1,600	828
3/18 10AM	263	37 @ 575-700	299	45 @ 795-900	285	36 @ 1,295-1,500	847
3/18 Noon	273	30 @ 575-700	312	53 @ 785-900	297	36 @ 1,000-1,400	882
3/19 8AM	277	32 @ 675-700	351	35 @ 750-800	341	42 @ 1,100-1,300	969
3/19 1PM	293	49 @ 644-700	367	41 @ 700-800	342	31 @ 1,100-1,200	1002
3/20 8AM	310	34 @ 550-650	378	39 @ 675-750	349	38 @ 994-1,200	1037
3/20 1PM	314	27 @ 525-600	355	23 @ 620-700	364	21 @ 942-1,100	1033
3/21 8AM	290	41 @ 500-600	350	40 @ 689-750	407	34 @ 900-1,000	1047
3/21 1PM	294	31 @ 595-600	341	27 @ 690-750	379	12 @ 990-1,000	1014

Edited March 21, 2022 by dmbolp

[JPay]

Thought readers might enjoy this scam proposal from “Leonardo.” I finally lost the energy to keep messing with him.  

[FriedEgg]

guess I'll enjoy it on television because I'm never paying a scalper that kind of money

[Greg Russell]

Just wanna say thanks to everyone especially dmbolp for all the info about tickets. This will be my first trip to the Masters. Tried the so called lottery for 4 years. I know prices are high, but I wanna enjoy while I can still get around, walk and enjoy. You never know what the future brings. Now just waiting and hoping my UPS delivery shows up.

[dmbolp]

Inventory for all 3 days all is back up

 

Low price for all 3 days back down

 

 

	MON		TUE		WED
	#	Low	#	Low	#	Low	Total #
3/18 8AM	249	60 @ 700-900	304	41 @ 840-950	275	36 @ 1,390-1,600	828
3/18 10AM	263	37 @ 575-700	299	45 @ 795-900	285	36 @ 1,295-1,500	847
3/18 Noon	273	30 @ 575-700	312	53 @ 785-900	297	36 @ 1,000-1,400	882
3/19 8AM	277	32 @ 675-700	351	35 @ 750-800	341	42 @ 1,100-1,300	969
3/19 1PM	293	49 @ 644-700	367	41 @ 700-800	342	31 @ 1,100-1,200	1002
3/20 8AM	310	34 @ 550-650	378	39 @ 675-750	349	38 @ 994-1,200	1037
3/20 1PM	314	27 @ 525-600	355	23 @ 620-700	364	21 @ 942-1,100	1033
3/21 8AM	290	41 @ 500-600	350	40 @ 689-750	407	34 @ 900-1,000	1047
3/21 1PM	294	31 @ 595-600	341	27 @ 690-750	379	12 @ 990-1,000	1014
3/21 6PM	300	44 @ 550-600	363	44 @ 685-750	385	15 @ 950-1,000	1048

[manku]

2 hours ago, FriedEgg said:

guess I'll enjoy it on television because I'm never paying a scalper that kind of money

Why the hatred of paying more than face value?  Many other limited goods get priced on supply/demand.  
 

I never really understood the anger towards the scalpers.  It’s the public that sets the market in the end.  
 

[aus10KC]

1 hour ago, manku said:

Why the hatred of paying more than face value?  Many other limited goods get priced on supply/demand.  
 

I never really understood the anger towards the scalpers.  It’s the public that sets the market in the end.  
 

 

It's because they really don't provide anything of value. They don't own the venue or put on the event, they just got a ticket you weren't able to get. Ideally ANGC would price tickets accordingly to what they are worth but they would be seen as greedy so a middleman is allowed to be in place.

[jeffc]

20 minutes ago, aus10KC said:

 

It's because they really don't provide anything of value. They don't own the venue or put on the event, they just got a ticket you weren't able to get. Ideally ANGC would price tickets accordingly to what they are worth but they would be seen as greedy so a middleman is allowed to be in place.

If that were the case then it would just cater to the people that can afford those prices. At least the way it is now, average joe's have a shot at the lottery. I was fortunate enough to win this year (well actually 2020) and know a few others that have been fortunate to win them, all of which wouldn't pay $1K+ per ticket to go. And there would still be a market for resale tickets, the price would be even higher than it is. 

[dmbolp]

Back to record high inventory, but prices going up?

 

 

	MON		TUE		WED
	#	Low	#	Low	#	Low	Total #
3/18 8AM	249	60 @ 700-900	304	41 @ 840-950	275	36 @ 1,390-1,600	828
3/18 10AM	263	37 @ 575-700	299	45 @ 795-900	285	36 @ 1,295-1,500	847
3/18 Noon	273	30 @ 575-700	312	53 @ 785-900	297	36 @ 1,000-1,400	882
3/19 8AM	277	32 @ 675-700	351	35 @ 750-800	341	42 @ 1,100-1,300	969
3/19 1PM	293	49 @ 644-700	367	41 @ 700-800	342	31 @ 1,100-1,200	1002
3/20 8AM	310	34 @ 550-650	378	39 @ 675-750	349	38 @ 994-1,200	1037
3/20 1PM	314	27 @ 525-600	355	23 @ 620-700	364	21 @ 942-1,100	1033
3/21 8AM	290	41 @ 500-600	350	40 @ 689-750	407	34 @ 900-1,000	1047
3/21 1PM	294	31 @ 595-600	341	27 @ 690-750	379	12 @ 990-1,000	1014
3/21 6PM	300	44 @ 550-600	363	44 @ 685-750	385	15 @ 950-1,000	1048
3/22 8AM	323	48 @ 550-600	360	31 @ 669-700	379	18 @ 1,00-1,100	1062

Edited March 22, 2022 by dmbolp

[Big Cat 3]

23 hours ago, bladehunter said:

Eh. I appreciate the thought. But I doubt it.  Consumables in that price range are like holding a snake to some people.  Makes my skin crawl.    But it’s literally out of the question in this economy. Likely be several years before it’s even a thought I consider.  Most likely never.  

Don't forget you are there from 8 am to 8 pm ... so it is an all day event ( over 25k step too lol, so you get a great work out to boot ).

[dmbolp]

WED just had a big inventory increase.  But there's a listing for up to 30 tickets for $2,500.  Also groups of 8, 9, 11, 12.  Dang speculators skewing my numbers!!

[manku]

15 hours ago, aus10KC said:

 

It's because they really don't provide anything of value. They don't own the venue or put on the event, they just got a ticket you weren't able to get. Ideally ANGC would price tickets accordingly to what they are worth but they would be seen as greedy so a middleman is allowed to be in place.

 

How do they not provide value?

 

I've been able to attend events that I otherwise wouldn't if there were no marketplace for tickets.

 

I'm cheap, so I almost always pay way under face value to attend events.  Just saw "The Lehman Trilogy" in LA for $25, orchestra seats, for example.  Excellent play, FWIW.

 

Without "scalpers", I could never have attended that show for under $100.

 

Or when I went to England a few years ago and wanted to attend some soccer games...how am I supposed to get tickets for a sold out match?  I don't know season ticket holders.

 

Also, I'm not sure how ANGC pricing their tickets at "market value" would benefit the public.  The Rolling Stones toured a few years back...90% of the decent seats were $600+, effectively taking out the middleman, and they sold out.   How did that help me?!?

 

 

[dmbolp]

	MON		TUE		WED
	#	Low	#	Low	#	Low	Total #
3/18 8AM	249	60 @ 700-900	304	41 @ 840-950	275	36 @ 1,390-1,600	828
3/18 10AM	263	37 @ 575-700	299	45 @ 795-900	285	36 @ 1,295-1,500	847
3/18 Noon	273	30 @ 575-700	312	53 @ 785-900	297	36 @ 1,000-1,400	882
3/19 8AM	277	32 @ 675-700	351	35 @ 750-800	341	42 @ 1,100-1,300	969
3/19 1PM	293	49 @ 644-700	367	41 @ 700-800	342	31 @ 1,100-1,200	1002
3/20 8AM	310	34 @ 550-650	378	39 @ 675-750	349	38 @ 994-1,200	1037
3/20 1PM	314	27 @ 525-600	355	23 @ 620-700	364	21 @ 942-1,100	1033
3/21 8AM	290	41 @ 500-600	350	40 @ 689-750	407	34 @ 900-1,000	1047
3/21 1PM	294	31 @ 595-600	341	27 @ 690-750	379	12 @ 990-1,000	1014
3/21 6PM	300	44 @ 550-600	363	44 @ 685-750	385	15 @ 950-1,000	1048
3/22 8AM	323	48 @ 550-600	360	31 @ 669-700	379	18 @ 1,000-1,100	1062
3/22 9PM	318	43 @ 550-600	356	21 @ 674-700	377	14 @ 950-1,000	1051

[Vespar]

I have access to 4 tickets to wednesday, if the average sell on stub hub is 1000 each, how much would stub hub pay me for all four? approx. I don't have an account and I'm heading off to work any body know the answer?

 

 

[jeffc]

29 minutes ago, Vespar said:

I have access to 4 tickets to wednesday, if the average sell on stub hub is 1000 each, how much would stub hub pay me for all four? approx. I don't have an account and I'm heading off to work any body know the answer?

You'd get about $850 or so per ticket. Just checked and that is what it calculated for me.

29 minutes ago, Vespar said:

 

 

Edited March 23, 2022 by jeffc

[fairways4life]

20 hours ago, manku said:

 

How do they not provide value?

 

I've been able to attend events that I otherwise wouldn't if there were no marketplace for tickets.

 

I'm cheap, so I almost always pay way under face value to attend events.  Just saw "The Lehman Trilogy" in LA for $25, orchestra seats, for example.  Excellent play, FWIW.

 

Without "scalpers", I could never have attended that show for under $100.

 

Or when I went to England a few years ago and wanted to attend some soccer games...how am I supposed to get tickets for a sold out match?  I don't know season ticket holders.

 

Also, I'm not sure how ANGC pricing their tickets at "market value" would benefit the public.  The Rolling Stones toured a few years back...90% of the decent seats were $600+, effectively taking out the middleman, and they sold out.   How did that help me?!?

 

 

 

This^

 

I am about 0-for-12 in the Masters ticket lottery, but I've been able to attend twice thanks to the second hand market (practice rounds in 2014 and 2016). 

 

Without scalpers, I wouldn't have been able to attend and create the experiences and the memories that I did. The second time I went I did so with my lifelong best friend, and he was able to bring his dad along who was in his 70s and had been a golf fan his whole life and had never set foot on the grounds before. I thought his dad was about to cry when we got to Amen Corner. Amazing day that I'll remember forever, and it was all possible because of the second-hand market. If the lottery was my only shot at a ticket, none of it would have been possible up to this point. 

 

That is absolutely providing something of value. It's providing opportunity. I'm grateful for the scalpers because they open up doors for those of us who have no luck in the lottery. Does it suck paying the second-hand prices? Sure. But at least the opportunity to get a ticket is there. You can choose to either pay or not pay. But without a second-hand market, the door is slammed shut on most of us. 

 

"Ideally Augusta would just price the tickets according to what they are worth." Why?  So the lottery can then be both hard to win AND expensive? At least the way it is now the tickets are pretty cheap if you do win the lottery. And like another poster said, increasing the face value would only increase the second-hand value even more. 

 

Question for those who have attended in the last couple of years. I remember a few years ago there was a lot of chatter about Augusta starting to crack down on the second-hand market a little by requiring a photo ID that matched the name of the original owner or whatever. I haven't paid much attention to it lately as I haven't attempted to go since I last went in 2016. But I'm targeting 2023 to be my third trip there and was wondering about all these crackdown measures.

 

I haven't read all the way through this thread, but upon a quick glance it appears people are not having any issues. What's the latest on any of these crackdown efforts? Are there any new hoops to jump through? Did any of that name-matching stuff come to fruition? The previous times I went it was as simple as me handing the person cash, they handed me a ticket and I was off to the races. Is it still that simple? 

Edited March 23, 2022 by fairways4life