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The main causes of EE are either a poor distribution of weight towards your heels at setup or via an incorrect trail elbow position  at the top or in transition . A poor trail elbow position forces you to lose posture in order to hit the ball.

There are two main issues with your swing.

Number one, you roll your forearms at the beginning of your swing . This is shown by the increase in space between your hands and your thighs in the first two stills. Instead you should take your hands BACK STRAIGHT until they get past your trail thigh. Use the yellow line on the mat as a visual aid to do this .

The third still shows your elbow position in mid transition Notice the angle of your right forearm  . It is angled away from the target line. That is a good indication that you have failed to start externally rotating your right shoulder in early transition . Now look at your same forearm angle at the end of transition -4th still. It is almost horizontal.  Compare your firearm angle at this point in the swing to that of Tigers at a similar point -5th still. His forearm is closer to vertical . The difference is right shoulder external rotation which will shallow the shaft and move your trail elbow closer to the target line 

in order to improve your right shoulder external rotation , first study the YouTube video “ elbow move quiz “ ( silent) . Notice that the trail elbow is moving towards the target line faster than their hands in the first two golfers. 
There are a number of ways of improving your right shoulder external rotation 

.1. try to drive your trail elbow more towards the front of your right pocket in transition . This translates to your right elbow moving down, closer to your body AND TOWARDS the TARGET LINE . 

2. Imagine LOSING  an arm wrestling contest with your trail arm

3. Use an alignment rod in your belt buckles and get your right elbow in front of the alignment rod at impacts as  in the below video. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, golfarb1 said:

The main causes of EE are either a poor distribution of weight towards your heels at setup or via an incorrect trail elbow position  at the top or in transition . A poor trail elbow position forces you to lose posture in order to hit the ball.

There are two main issues with your swing.

Number one, you roll your forearms at the beginning of your swing . This is shown by the increase in space between your hands and your thighs in the first two stills. Instead you should take your hands BACK STRAIGHT until they get past your trail thigh. Use the yellow line on the mat as a visual aid to do this .

The third still shows your elbow position in mid transition Notice the angle of your right forearm  . It is angled away from the target line. That is a good indication that you have failed to start externally rotating your right shoulder in early transition . Now look at your same forearm angle at the end of transition -4th still. It is almost horizontal.  Compare your firearm angle at this point in the swing to that of Tigers at a similar point -5th still. His forearm is closer to vertical . The difference is right shoulder external rotation which will shallow the shaft and move your trail elbow closer to the target line 

in order to improve your right shoulder external rotation , first study the YouTube video “ elbow move quiz “ ( silent) . Notice that the trail elbow is moving towards the target line faster than their hands in the first two golfers. 
There are a number of ways of improving your right shoulder external rotation 

.1. try to drive your trail elbow more towards the front of your right pocket in transition . This translates to your right elbow moving down, closer to your body AND TOWARDS the TARGET LINE . 

2. Imagine LOSING  an arm wrestling contest with your trail arm

3. Use an alignment rod in your belt buckles and get your right elbow in front of the alignment rod at impacts as  in the below video. 

 

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wow this is fantastic. Thanks so much for several things to focus on. I will be practising these tomorrow. 
 

1. for the right arm I should almost feel a tension as it stays vertical and more tucked in right ? (As you mention as if I’m losing an arm wrestle and while my elbow is in place so there should be some tension as it’s going to almost feel like it’s bending backwards). Most importantly keeping this elbow vertical and not letting it flare up. 
 

 

2. for the backswing initial takeaway can you elaborate this point a bit further? So right now I am almost bending it whereas I should be keeping both arms straight and just taking it more “around” while rotating my shoulders sooner so it’s almost like I’m turning around to see my back right (if someone tapped my shoulders and I’m looking back to see?)

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1.The movement of the right elbow in transition will  feel foreign and will take  a number of sessions to ingrain in your swing . Another example of right shoulder external rotation is the “ cops  and robbers “ game that you played as a kid . Pretend that you are told to put your hands up. This will mean that upper arm is parallel to the ground and in line with your body and your forearm is pointing straight up in the air . Right shoulder external rotation will entail moving the tip of your elbow forward , while your hands are stationary. 

Now combine this feeling of moving your elbow forward while  bent over in a golf posture  and slowly make a downswing . 
Any tension that you feel is due to the fact that you might have limited range of motion of right shoulder external rotation  and need to do some flexibility / range of motion exercises .  
The vertical position is a marker that you have externally rotated your right shoulder  and NOT a goal by itself . 

2. During the first 12-18 inches of your takeaway  the hands and wrists should do nothing . Your shoulders should start the swing . Feel as though a catcher has his glove 12”-18 “ directly behind  the position of your hands at setup ; your goal is to deliver the back of your right hand directly  not obliquely into the glove . 

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