New Voice Caddie SC4 Launch Monitor

[isitour]

Mr Shortgame Golf has posted on his YouTube channel that Voice Caddie is coming out with a new launch monitor called the C4. There are very few details at the moment except for the price ,$550. Nothing on the website yet.

 

Its right at the start of the video. It looks pretty nice.

 

 

Edited January 27, 2023 by isitour

[Homewrecker07]

Watching intently as I was about to get the SC300i

 

Hope it can read club head speed without hitting a ball

 

Edited January 27, 2023 by Homewrecker07
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[sociojeje]

Strange.. No information on their homepage... Though I don't like Rapsodo's subscription policy, their new product will be very tough to beat. 

[golfun]

The SC300 had the feature I liked the most, the built-in screen so no phone needed. 

[pdxhak]

Still not much information on the SC4 so hopefully it will be released soon. Here is a screen shot of the display.

 

 

[mktrout]

Hopefully way more accurate and user friendly than their current models which are terrible

[dwboston]

5 minutes ago, mktrout said:

Hopefully way more accurate and user friendly than their current models which are terrible

 

I'm sure it's just a lightly refreshed and repackaged SC300i with a better screen.  Looks like it still requires the remote or manually changing the club being hit (see the W1/10.5* on the top of the screen).  The remote is just stupid.

[golfun]

Why is there a large empty black box area above the screen if it’s the same thing as previous models? Wonder what’s in it. 

[dwboston]

1 hour ago, golfun said:

Why is there a large empty black box area above the screen if it’s the same thing as previous models? Wonder what’s in it. 

 

The Doppler radar unit(s).

[prusd]

HEre's a vid on the Voice Caddie sim that was at the golf show

 

 

Edited January 29, 2023 by prusd
my bad. got this confused with the LM. Its the sim.

[pdxhak]

1 hour ago, prusd said:

HEre's a vid on the Voice Caddie sim that was at the golf show

 

 

 

That is a video on the VSE and not the SC4

[golfun]

The sc300 was very compact. I see launch direction shows an arrow?

for it to get twice as tall there must be some large improvements. It would be great if that empty area was a screen that would replay your swing! 

[prusd]

According to this video, new SC4 comes in at 550 dollars, with some simulation and no subscription.  Very interesting....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHpceIniLz0

 

[pdxhak]

1 hour ago, prusd said:

According to this video, new SC4 comes in at 550 dollars, with some simulation and no subscription.  Very interesting....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHpceIniLz0

 

 

Simulation and no subscription could be huge. If the SC4 does not require special balls to be used like the Rapsodo MLM2 then I could see many going with this.

 

[dwboston]

13 minutes ago, pdxhak said:

 

Simulation and no subscription could be huge. If the SC4 does not require special balls to be used like the Rapsodo MLM2 then I could see many going with this.

 

 

It's a doppler radar unit, with the the usual pros and cons of radar.  Any golf ball can be used.  The RCT balls might work well indoors with it.

[golfun]

This looks amazing! I'm guessing the range/sim software is the same as the Swing Caddie VSE?

The fact that I don't need a phone(phone battery is always dead), but then if I want more features I can- that is a pretty big game changer. Really looking forward to hearing what it can read now and what internally has improved.

[golfun]

Here is the info on the unit!- https://www.playbetter.com/blogs/golf/new-swing-caddie-sc4-golf-launch-monitor-from-voice-caddie

 

First of all, it measure the same six data points that really count: 

• Carry/Total Distance
• Smash Factor
• Launch Angle
• Swing Speed
• Apex (Max Height)
• Ball Speed

Then the SC4 adds:

• Launch Direction
• Spin Rate

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• It has simulatior app integration for both iOS and Android. In simulator mode, the SC4 connects with the included MySwingCaddie app, providing a complete virtual display along with metrics and stats. 
• To further enhance the simulator experience, the SC4 is fully compatible with E6 Connect and its suite of photorealistic courses (optional subscription).
• It comes with a Free Simulator Driving Range Demo.

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• Dimensions/Weight: 4.88” x 7.59” x 1.14” / 15.4oz 
• Color: Black
• Display: 4.8" LCD
• Sensor: Doppler Radar Sensor
• Frenquency: K Band 24 Ghz
• Battery Type: Polymer Li-ion Rechargeable 
• Battery Life: Up to 10 Hours
• Accuracy:
  • ± 2% (ball speed)
  • ± 3 yards (carry distance in target mode)
  • ± 3% (carry distance in practice mode) 
• Measuring Range: 10~370 yards (1yard=0.91m) 
• Positioning: Placed approximately 1.5 meters (5ft) directly behind the ball

[Mych]

14 hours ago, golfun said:

Here is the info on the unit!- https://www.playbetter.com/blogs/golf/new-swing-caddie-sc4-golf-launch-monitor-from-voice-caddie

 

First of all, it measure the same six data points that really count: 

• Carry/Total Distance
• Smash Factor
• Launch Angle
• Swing Speed
• Apex (Max Height)
• Ball Speed

Then the SC4 adds:

• Launch Direction
• Spin Rate

----------------------------

• It has simulatior app integration for both iOS and Android. In simulator mode, the SC4 connects with the included MySwingCaddie app, providing a complete virtual display along with metrics and stats. 
• To further enhance the simulator experience, the SC4 is fully compatible with E6 Connect and its suite of photorealistic courses (optional subscription).
• It comes with a Free Simulator Driving Range Demo.

----------------------------

• Dimensions/Weight: 4.88” x 7.59” x 1.14” / 15.4oz 
• Color: Black
• Display: 4.8" LCD
• Sensor: Doppler Radar Sensor
• Frenquency: K Band 24 Ghz
• Battery Type: Polymer Li-ion Rechargeable 
• Battery Life: Up to 10 Hours
• Accuracy:
  • ± 2% (ball speed)
  • ± 3 yards (carry distance in target mode)
  • ± 3% (carry distance in practice mode) 
• Measuring Range: 10~370 yards (1yard=0.91m) 
• Positioning: Placed approximately 1.5 meters (5ft) directly behind the ball

 

I want!

[SwingBlues]

I really like this, could replace my PRGR with the spin rate addition at the RIGHT price point for me.

 

But how does it figure the spin rate? Does it need special balls like Rapsodo2 or another estimate?

 

 

[Frankensteins Monster]

1 hour ago, SwingBlues said:

I really like this, could replace my PRGR with the spin rate addition at the RIGHT price point for me.

 

But how does it figure the spin rate? Does it need special balls like Rapsodo2 or another estimate?

 

 

It’s $550. 

[Eeecc]

This has got me intrigued if the unit doesn’t have pesky subscription fees that lock features. I mean I am all for if u want to have subscription fees to give premium features but basic features like spin should come with the unit

[golfun]

The SC300 had calculated spin on the app. This one says it measures it! This is a lot of bang for the buck if true and I love that screen. 

[rusty_Wedge]

On 1/28/2023 at 5:42 PM, golfun said:

Why is there a large empty black box area above the screen if it’s the same thing as previous models? Wonder what’s in it. 

How is the same thing as the previous models?  It's an entirely new model from what I can tell.  Some of the same metrics of course, plus new features.  

[JermWRX]

Slightly off topic... sorry

 

I'm looking at launch monitors for the driving range or outdoors into a net only. I don't care about spin rates. Looking for relatively accurate carry distances. I've been looking at Mevo, PRGR, and SC300i. Seems like you guys on this post have some experience with these things. I looked at Rapsodo, but I have an Android phone. So that's not an option. Seems the SC300i is the way to go since it displays all the info without having to necessarily use a phone. That sound right to you guys? Thanks!

[isitour]

20 minutes ago, JermWRX said:

Slightly off topic... sorry

 

I'm looking at launch monitors for the driving range or outdoors into a net only. I don't care about spin rates. Looking for relatively accurate carry distances. I've been looking at Mevo, PRGR, and SC300i. Seems like you guys on this post have some experience with these things. I looked at Rapsodo, but I have an Android phone. So that's not an option. Seems the SC300i is the way to go since it displays all the info without having to necessarily use a phone. That sound right to you guys? Thanks!

 

I used the SC300i this year. It is very easy to setup and it was pretty accurate(distance,Club Speed and Ball speed) for the most part. I used it both indoor and out. It will give you the basics. I enjoyed using it.

I just sold it to buy a Garmin R10. The main reason why I switched was I had originally wanted the R10 but they were sold out for along time and I get a major discount on Garmin products. I'm pretty impressed with the R10 so far.

I must say, the SC4 and the new Rapsodo look very nice!

 

 

Edited February 2, 2023 by isitour

[dwboston]

14 minutes ago, rusty_Wedge said:

How is the same thing as the previous models?  It's an entirely new model from what I can tell.  Some of the same metrics of course, plus new features.  

 

They took the horizontal form factor of the SC300i, turned it vertical, and added a better screen.  The doppler radar array sits behind the black box above the screen - the black box is NOT another display/screen of some kind.

 

I hope this thing turns out to be good, but I have my doubts.  I owned an SC300 and was utterly unimpressed.  Too many missed shots (especially with wedges), the use of the unit with the remote was clunky, and the phone app was just terrible.  The customer support wasn't great either.

 

People should temper their expectations with Voice Caddie.  There's likely a reason why there were no demos of the unit at the PGA Show, or no information on it from the company or on its website....

[JermWRX]

1 minute ago, isitour said:

 

I used the SC300i this year. It is very easy to setup and it was pretty accurate for the most part. I used it both indoor and out. It will give you the basics. 

I just sold it to buy a Garmin R10. The main reason why I switched was I had originally wanted the R10 but they were sold out for along time and I get a major discount on Garmin products. I'm pretty impressed with the R10 so far.

I must say, the SC4 and the new Rapsodo look very impressive.

Thank you! I'll look closer at the 300i and SC4.  I looked at the R10, and it looked fantastic, but I believe it requires a subscription if I'm not mistaken? I'm looking for a simple plug and play option. Unfortunately Rapsodo doesn't work with Android, which is all I use.

[rusty_Wedge]

23 minutes ago, dwboston said:

 

They took the horizontal form factor of the SC300i, turned it vertical, and added a better screen.  The doppler radar array sits behind the black box above the screen - the black box is NOT another display/screen of some kind.

 

I hope this thing turns out to be good, but I have my doubts.  I owned an SC300 and was utterly unimpressed.  Too many missed shots (especially with wedges), the use of the unit with the remote was clunky, and the phone app was just terrible.  The customer support wasn't great either.

 

People should temper their expectations with Voice Caddie.  There's likely a reason why there were no demos of the unit at the PGA Show, or no information on it from the company or on its website....

Well I hope they add a better radar in addition to the better screen.  I cant stand messing around with my phone while I practice which is why I'm interested in this device.  

[golfun]

The unit is larger than the previous gens. I'm guessing the dedicated area higher up for the doppler radar will help with spin reads and just generally better reading of the ball.

One of the biggest draws for the Sc300 is how incredibly fast it is to setup compared to the R10. Power on, pick club and go. Fiddling with the R10 can get annoying especially trying to constantly clip my phone to the bag, then detach it to read data (have to take glove off each time to work with phone.)

Keeping the phone as just an option with the SwingCaddie is great.

I do agree sometimes the unit wouldn't read or get some wild numbers. Fingers crossed

[hammersia]

4 hours ago, JermWRX said:

Thank you! I'll look closer at the 300i and SC4.  I looked at the R10, and it looked fantastic, but I believe it requires a subscription if I'm not mistaken? I'm looking for a simple plug and play option. Unfortunately Rapsodo doesn't work with Android, which is all I use.

You don’t need a subscription with the R10, that’s just for simulation.

 

All the metrics are included for free with the R10.