2023 Cobra King CB & Tour

[JourdanM]

3 minutes ago, Morry said:

t200 utility...that sounds VERY Interesting......how does it blend with the KT's?

I have my KTs 1 strong so I bent the utility to gap properly at the top and I love how it plays with the set. 

[Morry]

13 hours ago, JourdanM said:

I have my KTs 1 strong so I bent the utility to gap properly at the top and I love how it plays with the set. 

Perfect

ordering now lol!

much appreciated

 

[JourdanM]

22 minutes ago, Morry said:

Perfect

ordering now lol!

much appreciated

 

Didn't even realize how similar they look at address lol. 
 

I don't think you'll be disappointed, it's a really fun club and stupid easy to launch. 

[bossman641]

Has anyone compared these to J15 Cb? I haven't seen the Tours in person but the soles look a little thick, which I liked in the J15.

Edited October 14, 2023 by bossman641

[JourdanM]

On 10/14/2023 at 7:31 PM, bossman641 said:

Has anyone compared these to J15 Cb? I haven't seen the Tours in person but the soles look a little thick, which I liked in the J15.

[wam78]

Bumping this guy…

 

Everyone still loving their KT’s?  Cobra does offset in this style of iron better than anyone else.  The transition from hosel to leading edge is outstanding!

[cw1209]

1 minute ago, wam78 said:

Bumping this guy…

 

Everyone still loving their KT’s?  Cobra does offset in this style of iron better than anyone else.  The transition from hosel to leading edge is outstanding!

 

The King MB,CB, and Tour irons are one of the best iron lines I have ever hit. They would get way more hype if they didn't say "Cobra" on the back. The Tours remind of a Titleist AP2 iron at address before they started to shrink it down and sharpen the toe for the T100. Great shape and hosel transition. The sole is similar to a modern Mizuno CB iron. Wide, low bounce, with some camber. I have a set of ZX7 mkii as backups. Similar size, but much sharper lines and different sole design. ZX7 is more workable and a little less forgiving. Between the two of them I'm not looking at irons any more. 

[wam78]

I’m heavily debating grabbing a set of these.  Tested them again yesterday, granted indoors, but they felt so easy to hit and so smooth at impact.  Just felt effortless to hit a number and the spin was so consistent.

[STank724]

3 hours ago, wam78 said:

Bumping this guy…

 

Everyone still loving their KT’s?  Cobra does offset in this style of iron better than anyone else.  The transition from hosel to leading edge is outstanding!

I combo the Tours and CBs. I love them both, but every time I hit the Tours I ask myself why I didn't just get a full set. They look and feel so good. Cobra killed it with their iron releases this year.

[thigos]

On 6/6/2023 at 3:21 PM, Puppetmaster said:

I also own a set of Fly Z+, which I'd like to think were one of the designs that led to the King Tour, and the Kings are a huge improvement over the Fly Z+. And those Fly Z+ were pretty good irons, in my opinion. 

I’m currently having a set of Fly Z + built.  Had them when they came out and loved them.  
 

But I have the wrx sickness and am considering a set of the tours.  
 

Would you elaborate on the differences you experienced?  And what you like better about the tours?

 

I’m seeing two sets of Cobra irons in my future

[trying2scratch]

On 12/8/2023 at 1:13 PM, STank724 said:

I combo the Tours and CBs. I love them both, but every time I hit the Tours I ask myself why I didn't just get a full set. They look and feel so good. Cobra killed it with their iron releases this year.

Are the blade length and offset much different?

[njmack]

Interested in giving the tours a shot this spring: anyone test them/blend with the forged tecs? I'm surprised at how slim the tec looks in photos.

 

Coming from a set of Zx7s w/ modus 105s that on great days are great, but when I'm off I find myself wishing these spun a little more/had more height to them. 7i SS is ~83-85mph, AOA about 4* down. Tours sound great so while I think my ballstriking is generally up for them, I'd say 90% of my iron game just wants to fly high, straight, and hop and stop. Wondering if the tours aren't too much of a good thing in that regard

Edited December 30, 2023 by njmack

[STank724]

20 hours ago, trying2scratch said:

Are the blade length and offset much different?

Just ever so slightly longer blade length and more offset, but over the ball I don’t really notice or think about it. But I’m also not super picky about that. 

[wolverine_man]

These irons (King Tour) were just the absolute most consistent after two Trackman fittings on two different days. I really really wanted to go with the Mizuno's (243/223) but these babies just edged them out. I am a Mizuno fanboy and have played nothing but Mizuno irons for the past 25 plus years.  Moving out of my 225's and moving on, has anyone had these clubs bent (loft/lie) by Cobra at the factory?  How much room is there, and how bad do they come marked up from the process? I am anticipating the PW and GW needing to be made weaker based upon my experience with this type of head. And I need a lie adjustment. TIA 

Edited January 5, 2024 by wolverine_man

[driveandputtmachine]

2 hours ago, wolverine_man said:

These irons (King Tour) were just the absolute most consistent after two Trackman fittings on two different days. I really really wanted to go with the Mizuno's (243/223) but these babies just edged them out. I am a Mizuno fanboy and have played nothing but Mizuno irons for the past 25 plus years.  Moving out of my 225's and moving on, has anyone had these clubs bent (loft/lie) by Cobra at the factory?  How much room is there, and how bad do they come marked up from the process? I am anticipating the PW and GW needing to be made weaker based upon my experience with this type of head. And I need a lie adjustment. TIA 

I did not have them bent from the factory, but the 9, PW, and GW in my set all were bent flat and weak.  7 and 8 were both bent weak.  I have a mitchell machine and there were no issues going flat 2-3 degrees and weak by 1-2 degrees.  I do not have any markings on the irons.

 

On a side note I tried a set of the last model T100 and T100S and they couldn't dethrone my original ZX7's.  I tried the new T100 and 150's after having the Cobra Tours and neither came close.  The feeling wasn't as good, neither was the dispersion left/right or front/back.  These quite honestly are the best overall irons I have played in quite some time.  My ball striking has gone downhill with an injury and limited practice time, but the Cobra Tours make good and bad swing days both a breeze.

[C_rad]

These are my dream irons. I was fitted for the 223 but man, the king tour are stunning. I am curious to see how they compare forgiviness wise. Did anyone test both? 
 

 

[southpaw72]

20 hours ago, wolverine_man said:

These irons (King Tour) were just the absolute most consistent after two Trackman fittings on two different days. I really really wanted to go with the Mizuno's (243/223) but these babies just edged them out. I am a Mizuno fanboy and have played nothing but Mizuno irons for the past 25 plus years.  Moving out of my 225's and moving on, has anyone had these clubs bent (loft/lie) by Cobra at the factory?  How much room is there, and how bad do they come marked up from the process? I am anticipating the PW and GW needing to be made weaker based upon my experience with this type of head. And I need a lie adjustment. TIA 

I had mine built 1* weak no marks at cobra.

 

You’re spot on with the distance control. Nothing in the realm of this model comes close. I also tested the mizuno’s. The T line was close but I just couldn’t miss with the tours from a ball striking perspective so they edged out. 

[Jmccas]

2 hours ago, southpaw72 said:

I had mine built 1* weak no marks at cobra.

 

You’re spot on with the distance control. Nothing in the realm of this model comes close. I also tested the mizuno’s. The T line was close but I just couldn’t miss with the tours from a ball striking perspective so they edged out. 

Mine were built 2° weak and 1° upright. No marks on them at all. 
 

The Tours are definitely more forgiving than the T100. I have been bagging the T100 for a few months but took the Tours out to the range a couple of weeks ago. I forgot how good they feel. I need to get on launch monitor at some point to compare ball speed between the two irons. 

[ARSM1932]

The Cobra CBs are the best set of irons I have ever played plus they look amazing, they are quite forgiving for their compact size and I found them a little more forgiving than the Apex TCB and Taylormade P7MC plus they were about 4-5 yards longer, the Cobra Tours are also fantastic irons and even more forgiving but slightly larger with a little more offset so you can't go wrong with either or even a combo set.

[Tingy]

Anyone know what is the lengths on the King Tours compared to standard Srixon ZX7 length? 

Says 37,25" on a 7 iron on Cobras website. 

Is Cobra actually longer than other manufactures, or do they measure differently? 

[Morry]

Just wanted to say, after being true to form and rifling through 5-7 sets in the last 2.5 years....I am Now SET on the King Tours ...Done 

traded all the rest over that time and now only have these snowflakes 

LOVE THEM 

 

6-11 bouncer in handicap heading Lower and These Are the ticket 

 

Thank YOU Cobra

 

 

[Les Paul Jr]

12 hours ago, Morry said:

Just wanted to say, after being true to form and rifling through 5-7 sets in the last 2.5 years....I am Now SET on the King Tours ...Done 

traded all the rest over that time and now only have these snowflakes 

LOVE THEM 

 

6-11 bouncer in handicap heading Lower and These Are the ticket 

 

Thank YOU Cobra

 

 

Why do you prefer the King Tour over the i230? Do you find them to be more consistent, accurate and forgiving than the i230?

[Morry]

3 hours ago, Les Paul Jr said:

Why do you prefer the King Tour over the i230? Do you find them to be more consistent, accurate and forgiving than the i230?

consistent, accurate and as powerful and forgiving 

 

turf interaction was biggest positive difference and that led to all the above - that was the clincher 

 

 

[Les Paul Jr]

12 hours ago, Morry said:

consistent, accurate and as powerful and forgiving 

 

turf interaction was biggest positive difference and that led to all the above - that was the clincher 

 

 

Thanks for the information!

[casey_0507]

On 1/6/2024 at 3:25 PM, Tingy said:

Anyone know what is the lengths on the King Tours compared to standard Srixon ZX7 length? 

Says 37,25" on a 7 iron on Cobras website. 

Is Cobra actually longer than other manufactures, or do they measure differently? 

I believe cobra measures to end of grip, srixon without grip. 
 

so should be very close lengthwise

[Sam217]

On 1/8/2024 at 12:49 PM, Morry said:

consistent, accurate and as powerful and forgiving 

 

turf interaction was biggest positive difference and that led to all the above - that was the clincher 

 

 

Question, I'm coming from 716 AP2s. Demo'd the i230 and it was much straighter for me than my current iron which I currently fight an over draw with. For that reason I liked the i230 and it was super consistent. Was on mats so unsure of turf interaction but didn't love the feel. For that reason was very interested in the BPS but after seeing them in person they are a little small for my taste, more in the T100 category. How does the shot shape bias if any of the King Tour compare vs i230? The i230 seems to have a touch of fade bias I've heard some say including Ian on TXG which seemed to suit me well. With that said after reading through all 9 pages of this I'm like take my money cobra.

[Morry]

31 minutes ago, Sam217 said:

Question, I'm coming from 716 AP2s. Demo'd the i230 and it was much straighter for me than my current iron which I currently fight an over draw with. For that reason I liked the i230 and it was super consistent. Was on mats so unsure of turf interaction but didn't love the feel. For that reason was very interested in the BPS but after seeing them in person they are a little small for my taste, more in the T100 category. How does the shot shape bias if any of the King Tour compare vs i230? The i230 seems to have a touch of fade bias I've heard some say including Ian on TXG which seemed to suit me well. With that said after reading through all 9 pages of this I'm like take my money cobra.

Same shot shape bias I would say 

 

I was gaming the i230 when I 'discovered' the king tour

 

I fight the overdraw as well and dropped the i230 fast for the KT 

 

[T_Golf_23]

On 1/30/2024 at 8:46 PM, Sam217 said:

Question, I'm coming from 716 AP2s. Demo'd the i230 and it was much straighter for me than my current iron which I currently fight an over draw with. For that reason I liked the i230 and it was super consistent. Was on mats so unsure of turf interaction but didn't love the feel. For that reason was very interested in the BPS but after seeing them in person they are a little small for my taste, more in the T100 category. How does the shot shape bias if any of the King Tour compare vs i230? The i230 seems to have a touch of fade bias I've heard some say including Ian on TXG which seemed to suit me well. With that said after reading through all 9 pages of this I'm like take my money cobra.

 

On 1/30/2024 at 9:19 PM, Morry said:

Same shot shape bias I would say 

 

I was gaming the i230 when I 'discovered' the king tour

 

I fight the overdraw as well and dropped the i230 fast for the KT 

 

I games the i230 all last year. They are power spec. Love them. Just picked up a set of king tour 4-G. Same shafts as my i230, modus 105x. 
 

I have to tell you, I am super impressed. The distance consistency is crazy. I like the feel a little more in the KT over the i230. The reality is that it may be dead even between these two. 
 

hands down 2 of the best iron sets in a long time. They are both keepers. 
 

interestingly I could not stand the previous MIM version. Excited to keep experimenting with these. 

Edited February 10, 2024 by T_Golf_23

[Sam217]

Has anyone had swing weight issues with these clubs when moving away from the stock $ taper shafts? My understanding is that the $ taper will swing weight lighter than most. I ordered a king tour 7 iron to try out with modus 120x 1/4inch long with a GP MCC +4 midsize grip and it is swing weighting at D4. I asked for D2. Yes the 1/4 inch may add 1-1.5 on the SW but the grip is almost 20 grams heavier than the stock grips which should drop the SW 3 points or more. If I had the stock grip on this puppy it would SW like D7. Cobra says the stock SW is D2. Anyone else with these issues? Cobra did not seem to make much effort getting me to D2 with this build. 1/4 inch over length is not much especially when taking into account the heavy grip I added.

[jbole267]

Anyone else still have these firmly in the bag?