Need info about Kaili White 60x vs. 60tx

[Jackal]

My Son is hitting a Paradym driver right now with a Kaili White 60x flex shaft.

His miss is a hard draw.

We were wondering about trying a Kaili White 60tx.

According to Mitsubishi, the TX has less torque .

In theory this should take out the left side miss, shouldn't it?

Let me know your experience with this shaft , or similar shafts.

Thanks 

 

[Phabs]

Stiffer doesn’t anyways eliminate a left miss.  Possibly a delivery issue like a trap. 

 

I have TX’s in my 3 and 5 wood and I can still over draw them with a junk swing 

[Jackal]

He has a Stealth 2, and a Ping G430.

They both go straight to a slight cut.

So then, it's the Paradym head/ shaft combination?

[Phabs]

34 minutes ago, Jackal said:

He has a Stealth 2, and a Ping G430.

They both go straight to a slight cut.

So then, it's the Paradym head/ shaft combination?

If you have two heads that do what he wants and a third that doesn’t then I would assume it’s something with the third set up that’s causing the lefts. 
 

Have you tried opening the face with the loft sleeve for a range session or a round to see if that negates anything?  Once again if it’s a delivery issue, there isn’t a loft sleeve, driver shaft or driver head that will stop it. 

Edited September 24, 2023 by Phabs

[Jackal]

7 minutes ago, Phabs said:

If you have two heads that do what he wants and a third that doesn’t then I would assume it’s something with the third set up that’s causing the lefts. 
 

Have you tried opening the face with the loft sleeve for a range session or a round to see if that negates anything?  Once again if it’s a delivery issue, there isn’t a loft sleeve, driver shaft or driver head that will stop it. 

The sleeve on the Paradym only has draw settings.

The sliding weight on the head doesn't seem to affect it.

Then,the shaft with less torque won't help with a stopping the left side?

 

Edited September 24, 2023 by Jackal

[Phabs]

1 minute ago, Jackal said:

The sleeve on the Paradym only has draw settings.

The sliding weight on the head doesn't seem to affect it.

 

Probably something with the head he doesn’t get along with then.  I’d pick the winner of the stealth / ping 

[Jackal]

This shows the TX to have less torque.

[Jackal]

The Paradym is longer and flys on a better trajectory.

If he could just eliminate that left miss, it would be perfect.

[Phabs]

Just now, Jackal said:

The Paradym is longer and flys on a better trajectory.

If he could just eliminate that left miss, it would be perfect.

Then get him on a quad and watch his face path on the left misses.  That’ll be a dead giveaway if it’s face manipulation causing the miss.  

[Jackal]

That's probably what we'll have to do.

[bdubs3316]

22 hours ago, Jackal said:

The sleeve on the Paradym only has draw settings.

The sliding weight on the head doesn't seem to affect it.

Then,the shaft with less torque won't help with a stopping the left side?

 

to open the face on the Paradym you'll use the N/-1 setting.  But you can get the green dot (tour adapter) and use the -2/N to open it more.  when you drop the loft, it opens the face some.  This is an option for the Paradym

[Jackal]

40 minutes ago, bdubs3316 said:

to open the face on the Paradym you'll use the N/-1 setting.  But you can get the green dot (tour adapter) and use the -2/N to open it more.  when you drop the loft, it opens the face some.  This is an option for the Paradym

Thanks for the info.

That would be easier to do.

We can't find  anyone with a Kaili White TX to try.

 

[bdubs3316]

1 minute ago, Jackal said:

Thanks for the info.

That would be easier to do.

We can't find  anyone with a Kaili White TX to try.

 

Sending you a PM to a place I've bought 2 from...for a massive discount.

[Jackal]

2 hours ago, bdubs3316 said:

Sending you a PM to a place I've bought 2 from...for a massive discount.

We'll get one ordered.

👍 Thanks 

[rlb4]

On 9/24/2023 at 7:52 PM, bdubs3316 said:

Sending you a PM to a place I've bought 2 from...for a massive discount.

Could you PM me the place as well? My son also has the X but he's increased his swing speed since and wants to try the TX.

[rlb4]

On 9/24/2023 at 10:10 PM, Jackal said:

We'll get one ordered.

👍 Thanks 

Any update if the TX works better than the X?

[phizzy30]

On 9/23/2023 at 3:00 PM, Phabs said:

Stiffer doesn’t anyways eliminate a left miss.  Possibly a delivery issue like a trap. 

 

I have TX’s in my 3 and 5 wood and I can still over draw them with a junk swing 

Same here.  I've tested the X and TX and found that the TX was more anti-left for me in this case especially on swings where I needed to step on one. 

[phizzy30]

1 hour ago, rlb4 said:

Any update if the TX works better than the X?

Kai'li White 60 and 70TX were more anti-left for me compared to their X counterparts.  My miss is low spin or in my case no spin hook, lol.  Kai'li white, Diamana PD, Ventus TR Black and RPG gold where the most anti-left shafts for me. 

[ARSM1932]

3 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

Kai'li White 60 and 70TX were more anti-left for me compared to their X counterparts.  My miss is low spin or in my case no spin hook, lol.  Kai'li white, Diamana PD, Ventus TR Black and RPG gold where the most anti-left shafts for me. 

I have never played the Diamana PD or RPG Gold but I totally agree about the others, I have found both the Kai'li White 60 TX and my current gamer (Tensei 1K Black 65 TX) to be more anti left than most driver shafts, the Ventus TR Black 8 X is probably the most anti left wood shaft on the market although it is super stout and heavy which makes it feel way stiffer than the Ventus Black 6 X and Ventus TR Black 6 X but it can be a fantastic fairway wood shaft for high speed players.

[Jackal]

We have the shaft ,but haven't installed it yet. 

He has a Tensei Raw AV that someone loaned him, and it's doing really good .

I'm not sure about all the specs on it, but will find out and post here .

[bdubs3316]

On 10/14/2023 at 1:54 AM, rlb4 said:

Could you PM me the place as well? My son also has the X but he's increased his swing speed since and wants to try the TX.

sent to you…

[kgauthier]

could i get that pm as well? @bdubs3316

[Golfinfloridaafter40]

On 9/23/2023 at 5:42 PM, Jackal said:

My Son is hitting a Paradym driver right now with a Kaili White 60x flex shaft.

His miss is a hard draw.

We were wondering about trying a Kaili White 60tx.

According to Mitsubishi, the TX has less torque .

In theory this should take out the left side miss, shouldn't it?

Let me know your experience with this shaft , or similar shafts.

Thanks 

 

The Mitsubishi rep came on here and told us that the TX has higher end materials than the X, S, or R.  If you look closely at the specs, it's a dead giveaway because of the torque rating and diameter of the shaft.  Something else too, but I can't remember without looking.  I had both shafts and sold them, neither is near as good as top flight Low/Low shafts but the TX is definitely more consistent if you can make it work for you