Ryder Cup Broken... here's the fix

[kiwigolf72]

2 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

If this merger goes through, there will definitely be a 

 

PGA Tour vs LIV “cup”

 

This would impact the RC possibly. Maybe it will be every 3 or 4 years instead of every 2. 

IMO moving forward who's going to LIV, by the original players going the PGA and DP have made changes, I don't think you're going to get too many more names moving across.

I don't want to watch Poulter and Sergio play a match against the best the PGA tour has, LIV has maybe a handful of players who could legitimately compete, the rest are either old or people we haven't heard of.

[Dutch1008]

3 minutes ago, Dave230 said:

I've played Holywood. It's really a poor enough course. I've heard dog track mentioned in this thread, wouldn't be far off. On the side of a hill. The club also isn't particularly exclusive.

 

I heard at some point in his teens also that Rory just stopped playing there because it didn't test him and got his game out of shape. The club deserves some credit but it's really benefitted way more than the other way around, considering how long he actually played there. He was a prodigy then and would play a lot of tournaments around Ireland and abroad, then in Northern Ireland he would play Royal Belfast, Royal County Down, Portrush and a few others. I think the reason he joined there was that probably it was a reasonable price for membership and nearby, also I believe that they allowed younger members than nearby courses so he could join when he was 8 years old.

 

Holywood is a richer suburb of Belfast but Rory wasn't a country club boy, far from it, he wasn't poor but he wasn't rich.  The membership price for Holywood is fairly standard for Ireland for full membership I'd say, around average. There are some exclusive places where it's significantly more, some decent courses you may get for less than that.

 

I think his father worked all those jobs moreso to bring him to junior events, rather than membership which I imagine he would have comfortably afforded. It was stuff like going to junior national and international events, going to America, travelling around Ireland and Britain when he was younger.

 

I didn't mean to imply that Rory was a trust fund baby. Simply pointing out that he had full access to a course from a very young age. That's pretty common over there and mostly reserved to the wealthy over here. 

[Dutch1008]

On 10/2/2023 at 2:24 PM, One Putter said:

The American team should become the North American team and include players from Canada and Mexico. That would be fun.

Would that change anything? Corey Conners is the highest ranked Canadian and is 33rd in OWGR, behind Lucas Glover and a host of other Americans that didn't make the team. The only Mexican player of note is Abraham Ancer. Not sure that changes the calculus. 

[kiwigolf72]

8 minutes ago, Dutch1008 said:

Would that change anything? Corey Conners is the highest ranked Canadian and is 33rd in OWGR, behind Lucas Glover and a host of other Americans that didn't make the team. The only Mexican player of note is Abraham Ancer. Not sure that changes the calculus. 

agree, there's no one who would make the team so pointless exercise.

[jimecherry]

5 hours ago, Dutch1008 said:

Would that change anything? Corey Conners is the highest ranked Canadian and is 33rd in OWGR, behind Lucas Glover and a host of other Americans that didn't make the team. The only Mexican player of note is Abraham Ancer. Not sure that changes the calculus. 

you missed the part where they said it would be fun no one is saying the usa team lacks talent 

[Jimi Thing]

On 10/3/2023 at 7:53 AM, Jimi Thing said:

Regardless of which side of that argument you are on, there is a time and a place. This could have been dealt with just  after whistling straights or this week going forward. .
 

Instead it’s part of the Ryder cup week. to me that is an indication of how much you care for the Ryder cup. 
 

And it could have been kept at just that: I don’t agree with the financial policies and don’t wear a hat in protest. But it became a lot more pathetic unfortunately mainly for Cantlay and Thomas. 
 

To pull the “it doesn’t fit, just like it didn’t in whistling straights” that’s it. And you and the entire entourage have little enough care to fix that easily solved issue. Shows how much care you have for the event. 
 

And JT on Sunday, cringe worthy. Terrible. I imagine him on Saturday lining up the boys to convince them to unite in not wearing a hat. Only to see half of them joining in this act. And 2nd, let’s make a ‘hats off gesture’ each times we win or halve a hole to be literally the only one doing this.

 

I like you JT, but you looked like an an absolute fool out there. Imagine explaining that to your kids. Why are you not wearing a hat and making these signals daddy? It was to show the world that we are a strong united team, standing behind each other. “But you are the only one doing that!!” Uhh

 

Finally, team Cantlay could be a bit more business savvy. If your desire is to monetise the Ryder cup, you are going about it in the worst possible way. Sponsorship deals go to likeable performing athletes. He’s doing the Cantlay brand and associated charities a bad service. The $2m every 2 years is peanuts. 
 

However, I think Cantlay was the best performing US golfer alongside Homa. And he showed leadership, he stood up, had a backbone off and on the course. He had a stellar performance given the circumstances. As a personality and the cause he represents, it’s going to be tough for people to gather behind that. 

I stand corrected. Listening to Max Homa on the NLU podcast. Money was never a topic in the team room, never a conversation. Just like the hat being a protest being absolutely not true. Also he is very adement and sincere in his take on that this US team truly was a team. I take Max Homa over Jamie Weir for a source. Thanks Max for being this honest. 

[Tiptx1122]

It's only broken when the Americans don't win, I would like to see 4 days of golfing instead of 3 but American would find something else to whine about

[FuzzyWuzzy01]

I didn't read through every post.  I think it would be interesting if the EUR team gets to set up the course on American soil and team USA sets up the course in Europe. That way you sorta balance out the home crowd advantage and hopefully make each event a bit more competitive. 

 

Ryder Cup is my favorite sporting event so don't want to see it changed too much. 

[Soloman1]

Football, baseball, basketball, soccer and hockey should play half of every game at each city. Same for college football.

 

That’ll fix sports.

[scottb15]

I don't think it's broken but I think it would be interesting if there were 2 more types of sessions like a true 2 man scramble and something else so all 5 sessions are different. 

[The Aspidistra in the Hall]

The Ryder Cup should have been abandoned after Brookline and the physical abuse by the 'fans' on the European players and families. Nothing has been learned and it's only a matter of time before some deranged idiot brings a weapon inside the arena.

[Konklifer]

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Edited October 6, 2023 by Konklifer

[me05501]

This is pretty good. 
 

https://nolayingup.com/blog/ryder-cup-reviving-the-united-states

[Louis_Posture]

The Ryder Cup is more popular than ever and definitely not "broken".

[golfortennis]

As always, this is the man with the answers:

 

 

 

(Personally don't agree with #5, but it is funny).

[Tiptx1122]

This topic never would have came up if the Americans won the RC