Fade Bias 5 Wood?

[argee1977]

Looking at trying to get something a little more fade biased for my 5 wood, since putting the mini driver in the bag, the 5 wood is the only fairway wood, but it can go pretty left (and hooking) on me at times, probably the hardest in my bag to stop going left.

 

It's an LTDx standard 5 wood, stiff shaft, nothing changed on it and at standard, guessing it is draw bias, only option when hitting sometimes and worried when OOB is close down the left is holding the face, but that's not great for getting the required distances.

[Tree Levino]

Lots of good options out there. Ping set flat and loft lowered (you can you a 7 wood cranked down to 5w loft depending on the gap you need to hit) or Taylormade lofted down with a heavier x stiff shaft. I find 80 to 90 g in 5w is good and a touch shorter will flatten it further. Personally I find stock lengths on 5w is excessive these days. I usually play a hybrid but enjoy an M3 5w I have lofted down a click. 

[RogerinNewZealand]

5 wood length eg 42 inch, good call . Many at 43.

Ping 410 etc with Flat Lie or the 410 hybrid uphil without hook😊

 

[Mobert19]

OG Sim Ti

[jetro110]

Darkspeed X LS

Qi10 Tour

Ping flat setting 

 

 

[Lobbing Iron]

The core QI 10 is very neutral maybe slightly fade biased, fairly forgiving and has a deep face.  I enjoy the 3 wood, and have hated left-biased woods.

[Phabs]

Try the LS version of the same head or send your current head out to hot melt and have some bias installed. 

Edited July 23, 2024 by Phabs

[Gysse]

Your current 5 wood is supposed to be adjustable have you tried anything ?

[Streuner]

Taylormade Tour version of their Qi 10 or Stealth plus / Stealth2 plus can be set very flat on the ground. If you like flat club faces take the Ping 7wood option and turn it on flat position, the shaft is longer than normal 7 woods. 

[argee1977]

3 hours ago, Gysse said:

Your current 5 wood is supposed to be adjustable have you tried anything ?

 

Yes, unfortunately it's all making it more draw bias 😂

 

Thanks for the responses, will go away and test the darkspeed X and the G430, as my club does both of those, will see what can be done!

[Red4282]

I have the ltdx standard 3 wood, and I’d agree it’s draw biased. No amount of flat setting or face angle changes can counter a heel sided cog. Unfortunately there isn’t very many truly fade biased 5 woods, however there are many neutral biased options.

[Bobb3rdown]

Playing a tour issue Cobra F7 4-5wd. I can't turn this thing over to save my life.

 

Playing it at 42". Big change coming from the F6 Baffler. I can hook that with ease.

Edited July 24, 2024 by Bobb3rdown

[Northsider]

The best fade bias fairways (without having to adjust them) are Mizuno. Specifically the original STZ. 

[Poor Mans Ty Webb]

If going Ping, you may want to consider "lofting up" to the next model (in this case, a 7w) and cranking that baby down into the big minus setting (can go flat from there, as well).  I've always found that their fairways sit a little closed, even in the flat setting.

[SheriffBooth]

If you want 5-wood launch conditions while still being able to crank the face open, your best current bet is probably the Qi10 Tour 6-wood that Taylormade offers.  I think cranked down to 19* from the stock 21* setting you'll end up with a 4* open face on that one.

[ranesy]

On 7/23/2024 at 1:47 PM, RH82 said:

The best fade bias fairways (without having to adjust them) are Mizuno. Specifically the original STZ. 

My exprience with the STZ, STZ 230 have been different. Both have been very neutral for my swing. This is also what Chris Voshall from Mizuno has shared on multiple interviews.

[bluedot]

If there is a truly fade biased fairway wood out there, I’d be a bit surprised, since the whole world fights a slice.  But I’d guess (and it’s only that) that TM stuff is typically the most neutral to the point of being fade biased out there.

 

Really, it think you’re probably looking at playing around with hosel settings and shafts more than finding a truly fade biased fairway wood.

[EaglesGolf99]

5 hours ago, bluedot said:

If there is a truly fade biased fairway wood out there, I’d be a bit surprised, since the whole world fights a slice.  But I’d guess (and it’s only that) that TM stuff is typically the most neutral to the point of being fade biased out there.

 

Really, it think you’re probably looking at playing around with hosel settings and shafts more than finding a truly fade biased fairway wood.

That was pre 2000 and 2000 thinking. 

 

R&D and the resulting usage of Smart Technology and AI has definitely evolved since then and shows a drastically different shot pattern (or miss pattern in this sense). 

[GoldenAges]

I bet the Ai Smoke triple diamond 20* loft fairway wood turned down -1* would be perfect. 

 

First, l would try your 5w with the loft turned down -1*. Turning the loft down will essentially open the face with any club. Good luck.

[Chunkitgood]

3 hours ago, EaglesGolf99 said:

That was pre 2000 and 2000 thinking. 

 

R&D and the resulting usage of Smart Technology and AI has definitely evolved since then and shows a drastically different shot pattern (or miss pattern in this sense). 

Not sure what you are trying to say but I walk my dogs past several holes energy day and see about 95% slicers, although sometime somebody does manage a severe pull, all hitting the ball a little fat with their irons.

 

As I understand it fade bias is a matter of weight distribution, not face angle.

[EaglesGolf99]

43 minutes ago, Chunkitgood said:

Not sure what you are trying to say but I walk my dogs past several holes energy day and see about 95% slicers, although sometime somebody does manage a severe pull, all hitting the ball a little fat with their irons.

 

As I understand it fade bias is a matter of weight distribution, not face angle.

What YOU see is 0.0000000000000000000000000001% of the golfing population. 

 

Check in with R&D at Callaway, TaylorMade, Ping, Titleist, Cobra, etc. 

[Tar_Heel_93]

How about Cobra LTDx LS 5 wood. I’ve played 2 rounds with it so far and it is neutral in the stock setting (12 gram weight in heel and 3 gram weight in the toe). If you flip the weights (12 gram weight in the toe) it should be fade biased. At 41.75” it is 0.75” shorter than your current 5 woods so it will play flatter. Also comes with a 75 gram shaft which may help keep you from going left. 
 

Since you already have the Cobra LTDx 5 wood it shouldn’t be a big adjustment.

 

They are currently on sale for $129.

 

 

Edited July 28, 2024 by Tar_Heel_93

[argee1977]

Had a try of a G430 5 wood, did well, bought one, not sure why there's so much difference between the two, but side by side testing showed that i just can't keep that LTDx on the planet compared to the G430!

[Tar_Heel_93]

7 hours ago, argee1977 said:

Had a try of a G430 5 wood, did well, bought one, not sure why there's so much difference between the two, but side by side testing showed that i just can't keep that LTDx on the planet compared to the G430!

Clubs are the same length 42.5”. Ping is 2.25 degrees flatter than the Cobra LTDx. That is a big difference and explains the difference in ball flight. Hope you enjoy the Ping 5 wood.

Edited July 28, 2024 by Tar_Heel_93

[wam78]

G430 7w, opened all the way up playing a touch short could be a really good option.

Edited July 29, 2024 by wam78

[Joesti]

On 7/27/2024 at 9:29 PM, Tar_Heel_93 said:

How about Cobra LTDx LS 5 wood. I’ve played 2 rounds with it so far and it is neutral in the stock setting (12 gram weight in heel and 3 gram weight in the toe). If you flip the weights (12 gram weight in the toe) it should be fade biased. At 41.75” it is 0.75” shorter than your current 5 woods so it will play flatter. Also comes with a 75 gram shaft which may help keep you from going left. 
 

Since you already have the Cobra LTDx 5 wood it shouldn’t be a big adjustment.

 

They are currently on sale for $129.

 

 

I just purchased one of these new on ebay for $140 after seeing this suggestion. Fedex says it will be delivered today. Ill update this after I hit it on the simulator.

[Joesti]

Hit it on the sim yesterday. Its fade biased with the weight in the toe. Goes straight for me which I usually over draw a 5 wood. The tensei white is too low launch low spin for me so im going to grab a ventus red to throw in it and test some more. Was only getting about 70ft height and 3000 spin.

[Tar_Heel_93]

1 hour ago, Joesti said:

Hit it on the sim yesterday. Its fade biased with the weight in the toe. Goes straight for me which I usually over draw a 5 wood. The tensei white is too low launch low spin for me so im going to grab a ventus red to throw in it and test some more. Was only getting about 70ft height and 3000 spin.

Did you hit it off a tee or off the mat in your simulator? The rails on the bottom make it hard for me to get accurate spin and launch off the mat in my simulator. They are not a problem outside. I need and like the Tensei white shaft. Good luck

[Joesti]

19 minutes ago, Tar_Heel_93 said:

Did you hit it off a tee or off the mat in your simulator? The rails on the bottom make it hard for me to get accurate spin and launch off the mat in my simulator. They are not a problem outside. I need and like the Tensei white shaft. Good luck

This is fantastic to know! I was indeed hitting it off the mat. Im gunna have to take it to the range to test before i change shaft.

[speedeuphoria]

On 7/31/2024 at 12:02 PM, Joesti said:

This is fantastic to know! I was indeed hitting it off the mat. Im gunna have to take it to the range to test before i change shaft.

I have one as well, moved weight to toe and can still baby draw but pretty straight. Nice flight height with stock shaft on turf