Your club championship at private and semi private ( public) questions

[Vespar]

Hopefully I'm in the right thread topic. Our club has restructured and has all new personnel. They cleaned house. 

 

 

Question.  What flights do you typically have broken out by age?   for Men's, Men's senior, men's super senior, & womens

 

 

How many days is your Club Championship

 

Gross and net or match play?

[joeconn]

We have separate stroke play and match play championships. Strokes play, it's 36 holes (Sat + Sun), gross and net, Open Men (back tees), Senior Men (55+, middle tees), Legends Men (75+, front tees), Women (all ages, front tees). Men can choose to play in any division they qualify for based on age, for example I'm 59 and can play Open or Seniors. Tournament was last weekend, we had about 25 in Open Men, ~25 in Seniors, ~12 Legends, ~15 Women.

 

Match play... 18 hole matches, handicapped. It's on ongoing tournament, make your own tee times, starts in late May and the final match is this Friday. Everyone is combined, men and women, all ages, all handicaps. They set it up like an NCAA basketball bracket, first round lowest handicap entered plays highest handicap entered, etc etc.

[david.c.w]

Men's, Senior, Womens, Junior.

• Men's is 3 days and stroke play from the back tees (black).  There are other flights that pay out gross and net (gold, blue, white).  Blue and white is 2 day.
• Senior is 2 days and stroke play from the blues.  There is also a white flight and other flights within blue that pay out.  
• Womens is same as Senior but from the reds(?).
• Junior is 2 days and flighted by age.

While everything is flighted, the Club Champion is the winner of the first flight of each competition.  The other flights are just there to get more people to play, and is just an individual stroke play version of any other tournament throughout the year.

• The men's back tee flight had about 15 people sign up, 5 of which were good juniors.  In reality there are only about 5 people who can realistically win.  Overall almost of full field across all flights.
• The senior main flight has about 30 people sign up, with about 10 that can win.  Overall about 1/2 a full field.
• The women's main flight has about 20 people sign up, with only 2 people who can win.  

We also have a summer long fourball and individual match play.  Each one has 4 flights:  gross, gold, blue, white.  The winners of each flight go into a final 4 bracket to see who is the overall winner.

 

Our club champ was last week and the winner is 49.  Next year he is going for the grand slam:  men's, senior, member/member, match play.  The fourball is relatively new and is like the 5th major.

 

Edit:  Anything the has the name "Club Champion" attached to it is gross AND from the appropriate back tees.  

 

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2024 by david.c.w

[TheBiles]

4 minutes ago, joeconn said:

They set it up like an NCAA basketball bracket, first round lowest handicap entered plays highest handicap entered, etc etc.

 

Oh man, I feel like that would be tough. It's so hard to play a mid-cap who is getting +10 strokes becuase of the ridiculous inconsistency in their games.

[Vespar]

18 minutes ago, david.c.w said:

Men's, Senior, Womens, Junior.

• Men's is 3 days and stroke play from the back tees (black).  There are other flights that pay out gross and net (gold, blue, white).  Blue and white is 2 day.
• Senior is 2 days and stroke play from the blues.  There is also a white flight and other flights within blue that pay out.  
• Womens is same as Senior but from the reds(?).
• Junior is 2 days and flighted by age.

While everything is flighted, the Club Champion is the winner of the first flight of each competition.  The other flights are just there to get more people to play, and is just an individual stroke play version of any other tournament throughout the year.

• The men's back tee flight had about 15 people sign up, 5 of which were good juniors.  In reality there are only about 5 people who can realistically win.  Overall almost of full field across all flights.
• The senior main flight has about 30 people sign up, with about 10 that can win.  Overall about 1/2 a full field.
• The women's main flight has about 20 people sign up, with only 2 people who can win.  

We also have a summer long fourball and individual match play.  Each one has 4 flights:  gross, gold, blue, white.  The winners of each flight go into a final 4 bracket to see who is the overall winner.

 

Our club champ was last week and the winner is 49.  Next year he is going for the grand slam:  men's, senior, member/member, match play.  The fourball is relatively new and is like the 5th major.

 

Edit:  Anything the has the name "Club Champion" attached to it is gross AND from the appropriate back tees.  

 

 

 

 

what about ages per flight/tee?

[Vespar]

really looking for Age, not exclusive formats like brackets

[david.c.w]

38 minutes ago, Vespar said:

what about ages per flight/tee?

 

Age does not come into play other than having a senior club champion.   If you are old you sign up for the blue flight.   If you are even older you sign up for the white flight.  Old guys do not have their name on a plaque.

[MtlJeff]

My club is private

 

Club Championship is 54 holes with a cut after 2 days

A flight = Stroke play

AA (index 5.4+) = Stableford

B (9.9+) = Stableford

BB (15+) = Stableford

 

We do the senior CC the week prior (age 55+)

It is open to anyone that age

2 days of stroke play from the 1-up tees

[kiawah]

Mine only has one men's and women's club championship. Anyone with a handicap below 4 is eligible. There's also the junior club championship (boys and girls) and men's and women's senior club championship. None of them are net. All are 18 holes of stroke play gross qualifying and then match play.

[DArnie]

Private Club

36 holes stroke play.

Men's Division 59 and below

Senior Division 60 and up

Super Senior 70 and up

However, the Senior/Super Division is one division playing from their appropriate

tees. 

Net and Gross winners for the two divisions win parking places with their name on it plus small cash prizes.

[klebs01]

Private club, match play, gross, no age divisions. There are some flights for fun and a separate senior event. But the real club championship is the championship flight. 

[The Aspidistra in the Hall]

36 hole stroke play for the Club Cup, top 16 qualify for matchplay for the Club Championship. That would be the 'best player' in the Club, of course it's gross scores only and it's super back tees.

As it should be.

Anything else is for giggles.

[mizuno player]

Private. 

 

Regular CC. 

 

Stroke play rounds. Take the lowest 7. 8 if the current champ does not defend. This is the first club for a 8 man final. Makes qualifying a little more stressful!! 

 

Saturday quarters and semis. Sunday 36 holes final. Match play. One weekend and done once match play starts. 

 

Flights are based on handicaps to make sure none or no more than 1/2 total strokes given. 

 

Not based on age in this CC. 

 

Senior CC. Stroke play to get the lowest 7 or 8 .... Match play is done over 6 weeks with the final being played at the end. 

 

We also have a stroke play championship. 

[bcjim]

18 hours ago, DArnie said:

Private Club

36 holes stroke play.

Men's Division 59 and below

Senior Division 60 and up

Super Senior 70 and up

However, the Senior/Super Division is one division playing from their appropriate

tees. 

Net and Gross winners for the two divisions win parking places with their name on it plus small cash prizes.

Rough. We're 54 and below. I've never understood why pros are seniors at 50 but the rest of us is 55 or 60. I guess the old guy lobby is quite strong at many clubs. Guys in their 50s typically have no chance against the 20 somethings from the back and often no business playing from the back tees. But the older guys don't want them around..

[joeconn]

23 hours ago, TheBiles said:

 

Oh man, I feel like that would be tough. It's so hard to play a mid-cap who is getting +10 strokes becuase of the ridiculous inconsistency in their games.

 

It's funny... The higher handicap players complain about having to play against low handicap players. They think even with their higher handicap/more strokes they're getting that the lower handicap players are going to shoot even par and crush them.

 

And the low handicap players think they don't have a chance giving X strokes to a higher handicap player.

 

The winners the last few years have been all over the board in terms of handicaps. Last year's winner is a 12, and he's in the final again this year playing against a 14. The woman who won in 2022 is a 20. The guy who won in 2021 is one of the lowest handicaps in our club.

Edited August 23, 2024 by joeconn

[jda]

In net, 60+ senior and 59 down is open.

 

They also have a gross flight for any age.

[nsxguy]

2 hours ago, joeconn said:

 

It's funny... The higher handicap players complain about having to play against low handicap players. They think even with their higher handicap/more strokes they're getting that the lower handicap players are going to shoot even par and crush them.

 

And the low handicap players think they don't have a chance giving X strokes to a higher handicap player.

 

The winners the last few years have been all over the board in terms of handicaps. Last year's winner is a 12, and he's in the final again this year playing against a 14. The woman who won in 2022 is a 20. The guy who won in 2021 is one of the lowest handicaps in our club.

 

What you seem to be describing is MATCH play NET. 

 

In match play handicaps applied properly should equate to a very even match, just as you describe. 

 

Most of the "true"(?) CC's are gross, to identify the best player.

[CobraGirl]

Our club championship is tomorrow.  We have husbands and wives playing in the first round together although they are playing in the men's and women's championship.  This doesn't seem right, since I can't imagine there won't be some advice given at times.  However, I cannot find anything in the rules of golf that prohibits this.  Anyone have any thoughts? 

[DArnie]

5 hours ago, bcjim said:

Rough. We're 54 and below. I've never understood why pros are seniors at 50 but the rest of us is 55 or 60. I guess the old guy lobby is quite strong at many clubs. Guys in their 50s typically have no chance against the 20 somethings from the back and often no business playing from the back tees. But the older guys don't want them around..

Yeah, Our club used to be 55! The older guys changed that though. But our Men's Division  is played from the Men's regular tees at about 6300-6400 yds. Kinda gives the older ones a shot. In fact, last weeks champion was 54 yo. 8 under, beat a 21 yo by one. Yeah, the late 50s guys really have no shot at Gross but still have a chance for the Parking spot for Net. It's all about the Parking spots with their names on it! LOL.

[blaird]

Mens (49 and below), Senior (50-64), Super Senior (65-74), Grand Master (75+), and a Women's CC. Dont think we do Sr womens and this year we are doing a jr club championship.

We are a public course but have members (owned by members). Our CC is two days and we do a net and gross in each flight. The amount of places paid depends on how many play. This is the aggravating part for me, we have around 200 members and can barely get 30 people total to play the CC. We will also see people who arent playing in the CC, playing their usual Sat/Sun game with their member buddies both days. Wish they would just play in the CC, we could probably pair them up with their friends to keep their game going for at least the Saturday of the tournament. 

[bcjim]

7 hours ago, DArnie said:

Yeah, Our club used to be 55! The older guys changed that though. But our Men's Division  is played from the Men's regular tees at about 6300-6400 yds. Kinda gives the older ones a shot. In fact, last weeks champion was 54 yo. 8 under, beat a 21 yo by one. Yeah, the late 50s guys really have no shot at Gross but still have a chance for the Parking spot for Net. It's all about the Parking spots with their names on it! LOL.

We're flighted . 5hc and under (and anyone who wants to give it a shot) is gross only at 7000++. Winner gets a parking spot . 5+ are all in the same flight but 55+ play shorter tees (6200 ish) while under 55 play blues at ~6700. So its tough for younger 50 somethings, especially short knockers.

 

 

[Shilgy]

14 hours ago, bcjim said:

Rough. We're 54 and below. I've never understood why pros are seniors at 50 but the rest of us is 55 or 60. I guess the old guy lobby is quite strong at many clubs. Guys in their 50s typically have no chance against the 20 somethings from the back and often no business playing from the back tees. But the older guys don't want them around..

Private

 

Club championship back tees two days 36 holes stroke play at gross.  There is also a smaller net payout in that flight and a max handicap index of  9.  Which is just for pace of play as they don’t typically even sniff the net portion against a few +2 to +4 type players.

 

There are also two other flights from tees further up that pay a  gross spot and a few nets.

 

Senior CC is 50+ …must be at least 50 the first day of event. Played off combo tees of tips and member tees.  Senior flight is 65 off the member tees with a Legends flight 75+ playing shorter than that.

 

Flight pay a few gross and a few net depending on flight size.

[JimmyC59]

My course is a muni.

Our club championship has a qualifying round. You pay your entry fee and tell the pro shop your qualifying that day. Your score that day determines your flight. Many of the participants don't have a handicap.

Golfers are seeded by their qualifying rounds and the tournament is match play.

[elwhippy]

36 Hole stroke play with 16 lowest gross scores going into matchplay. Seeded 1 v 16 etc. Our intermediate and high hcp champs are 18 hole strokeplay qualifiers with the same seeding system. Hcp brackets are 9 and below. 10-17, and 18 and above. All three brackets are off scratch. 

[vtpachyderm]

My club is I guess semi private and the CC was held this past weekend. Always fun playing this weekend after the comp flights go out as the course is in pristine condition - fast and true greens. 
 

All CCs are stroke play and no handicap. They play both of the courses for the Men and Women’s categories over 3 days - 1st day on our executive par 66 course and the others on our 18 hole course. 
 

The other categories are 2 rounds on our 18 hole course over 2 days. 

 

Categories are 

The one that counts is the Men and Women playing from 6900 and 5900 and this is open to all. 

 

Subcategory CCs then are 

Junior Men and Women ages 12-19 playing from 6900 and 5900 respectively 

Senior Men and Women >50 playing from 6300 and 5300

Elder Men and Women >70 playing from 5900 and 5300

 

The winning score for the Men was -11 after 3 rounds (last place was +113).

 

 

[MattyO1984]

My Club has championships for scratch, handicap, seniors and juniors in both men and ladies. 

 

The big one is the Men's Scratch Club Championship and (this surprises most people I say it to), this is four rounds of strokeplay over four back to back days with lowest score winning. It can get pretty tiring come the end of the week but it does, without doubt, identify the best golfer. 

 

The typical schedule for the week is:-

Wednesday (tee times between 4pm-6.30pm)

Thursday (tee times between 4pm-6.30pm)

Cut - Top 24 and ties

Friday (tee times between 4.30pm-6pm)

Saturday (tee times between 12.30 and 2pm). 

[Hawkeye77]

On 8/22/2024 at 8:58 AM, Vespar said:

Hopefully I'm in the right thread topic. Our club has restructured and has all new personnel. They cleaned house. 

 

 

Question.  What flights do you typically have broken out by age?   for Men's, Men's senior, men's super senior, & womens

 

 

How many days is your Club Championship

 

Gross and net or match play?

2 days.

 

Gross and net stroke play.

 

"Open" and senior divisions - senior electing to play "Open" must play the championship tees, and may not play the senior division.

 

Used to be a women's competition, but none enter these days.

 

No flighting.

 

 

[CTG77]

2 hours ago, bcjim said:

Rough. We're 54 and below. I've never understood why pros are seniors at 50 but the rest of us is 55 or 60. I guess the old guy lobby is quite strong at many clubs. Guys in their 50s typically have no chance against the 20 somethings from the back and often no business playing from the back tees. But the older guys don't want them around..

It's 50 and up at our club for the senior championship, but frankly, I had not played nearly enough golf from the forward tees this year, and really (REALLY) sucked at adjusting my game to it since I normally play from the back tees with my son and hold my own.  I'm the kind of guy who'd rather fight to shoot an 82 from the tips than constantly be hitting 6 iron / 8 iron into greens for birdie putts and being bored...call me stupid I guess...

[cardoustie]

55 for senior

 

65+ super senior

 

stroke play over 2 rounds

 

there are 4 flights … A to D, a ladies and a junior 

 

 

[nsxguy]

On 8/22/2024 at 9:58 AM, Vespar said:

Hopefully I'm in the right thread topic. Our club has restructured and has all new personnel. They cleaned house. 

 

 

Question.  What flights do you typically have broken out by age?   for Men's, Men's senior, men's super senior, & womens

 

 

How many days is your Club Championship

 

Gross and net or match play?

 

Here's a recent discussion in the Rules section if you're interested - https://forums.golfwrx.com/topic/2017199-formula-for-club-tournament-tee-assignment/