Less Wedges more?

[Altnote]

I go

 

47 - set PW for full shots

 

54 - 12° bounce, for chipping and normal bunker shots

60 - 6° bounce, for any other shots around green

 

Mainly, 54&60 are my buddy whithin 110yd from the green.

Many option just makes me confusing.

[BallerNate]

4 hours ago, MikeW2 said:

My initial post I was just thinking about shots in perfect conditions if everything was executed properly off the tee. We all know that golf is a game of imperfect and I often find myself needing to create shots so I have a variety of those with each wedge. I also should add that I haven’t mentioned wind or rain or cool temperatures…all these situations could require something that isn’t stock. Each player has to figure out how they “see” shots then learn to execute them on course. If 1/2 and 3/4 swings is what you visualize best then use that to your advantage. I like being able to do so using 4 clubs instead of 3 as I feel it gives me more options and that is, for me, entirely course defendant. When I grew up the first course we played a lot I could have gone from a 9 iron straight to a 60 and never have needed a P G or S wedge.

Makes sense. Yeah, you have to play what works best for your game for sure!

[ARL67]

My wedge game / thinking has changed quite a bit from a few years ago. I carry a 58 LW ( bent to 57 ) , a 50 GW , then PW.  PW full swing is 120.  If there is nothing in front of the green ( hazard ) I’ll bump and run all the time with the PW. I’ve developed very good feel for most any distance.  A full GW is 105 for me, but I prefer to bump and run up a PW from 105.  Only if I have to carry a bunker or some rough will I reach for the LW or GW. 

Edited December 11, 2024 by ARL67

[BirdieBob]

WEDGES:  If some are good, then more is better, and too many is just right

[kiwihacker]

How many here still play a 47° set PW? Most 'players' clubs I see these days are about 46° or less and distance irons/GI seem to be anywhere from 41°-45°. So the 52/58 setup which as so popular with a 47° PW doesn't fit as well with a 43-45 set PW. I added a 48° wedge then go 52/58 but would probably be just as happy with 52/56. 

[NRJyzr]

3 minutes ago, kiwihacker said:

How many here still play a 47° set PW? Most 'players' clubs I see these days are about 46° or less and distance irons/GI seem to be anywhere from 41°-45°. So the 52/58 setup which as so popular with a 47° PW doesn't fit as well with a 43-45 set PW. I added a 48° wedge then go 52/58 but would probably be just as happy with 52/56. 

 

Depending on the set I have in play, my PW loft ranges from 46° (Maltby TS4) to 52° (Golden Ram).

 

[azgreg]

1 hour ago, kiwihacker said:

How many here still play a 47°

[Mitchell]

4 hours ago, kiwihacker said:

How many here still play a 47° set PW? Most 'players' clubs I see these days are about 46° or less and distance irons/GI seem to be anywhere from 41°-45°. So the 52/58 setup which as so popular with a 47° PW doesn't fit as well with a 43-45 set PW. I added a 48° wedge then go 52/58 but would probably be just as happy with 52/56. 

In my MP64 set, weakened loft off 9 iron 1* to 43* and that of PW 2* to 48*, blends well with my  54* and 60* wedge lofts. Have played similar lofts for years and seen no need to change 🤷‍♂️

Edited December 11, 2024 by Mitchell

[kiwihacker]

3 hours ago, NRJyzr said:

 

Depending on the set I have in play, my PW loft ranges from 46° (Maltby TS4) to 52° (Golden Ram).

 

How old are the Golden Rams? 

[kiwihacker]

2 hours ago, Mitchell said:

In my MP64 set, weakened loft of PW 2* to 48*, blends well with my  54* and 60* wedge lofts. Have played similar lofts for years and seen no need to change 🤷‍♂️

Agree there is no need to change. But the MP 64s are over 10 years old so I guess my question was directed at players playing more recent models because as I said, the modern 'set' PW seems to range anywhere from 38° to 46° with the majority in that 43°-45° range. Your lofts are perfect and the only change with a modern setup would be the number stamped on the clubhead. 

[Mitchell]

8 minutes ago, kiwihacker said:

Agree there is no need to change. But the MP 64s are over 10 years old so I guess my question was directed at players playing more recent models because as I said, the modern 'set' PW seems to range anywhere from 38° to 46° with the majority in that 43°-45° range. Your lofts are perfect and the only change with a modern setup would be the number stamped on the clubhead. 

Actually, this set is new old stock that have only had about a week, played similar specs in Srixon ZX7 MKII set. Initially played with stock 46* in pw, then 50*,54*,and 58* wedges. Just really didn’t need additional option for full swings as usually can flight wedges pretty well. Know lots of good players that enjoy the more wedges, just didn’t suit my needs/tastes as can score well with 12 clubs and lighten load for walking. 

[CLEVELAND59]

47, 53, 58 is exactly where I am set up wise.  I am far more consistent and happy with the way its sort of helped narrow down my short game options. I don't over think shots nearly as much as I used to.  And it opened up a slot up at the top of my bag.

Edited December 11, 2024 by CLEVELAND59

[kiwihacker]

Perhaps I should restate my original question. For those playing 47° PW what is the make and model of the irons you are playing? I ask because you just don't see a 47° PW in many modern iron sets offered these days. 

Edited December 11, 2024 by kiwihacker

[NRJyzr]

1 hour ago, kiwihacker said:

How old are the Golden Rams? 

 

1980.  I set them slightly weak for gapping purposes; even 4° gaps across 2-pw.

 

[NRJyzr]

42 minutes ago, kiwihacker said:

Perhaps I should restate my original question. For those playing 47° PW what is the make and model of the irons you are playing? I ask because you just don't see a 47° PW in many modern iron sets offered these days. 

 

I have MP37s at 47°.  MS-11s (1990) at 49°.  Muirfields at 51°.  Wilson 78 Staffs at 50°.  

 

[azgreg]

3 hours ago, kiwihacker said:

Perhaps I should restate my original question. For those playing 47° PW what is the make and model of the irons you are playing? I ask because you just don't see a 47° PW in many modern iron sets offered these days. 

Making TE Forged

[kiwihacker]

3 hours ago, NRJyzr said:

 

I have MP37s at 47°.  MS-11s (1990) at 49°.  Muirfields at 51°.  Wilson 78 Staffs at 50°.  

 

Wow, a full range of classics. 

[mikes919]

This year with my JPX 923 HMP’s I decided to go with Vokeys at 46, 50, 54, and 60. The full-swing gapping is actually decent, but it really feels like overkill.

 

A couple of my Vokeys are due for replacement, I am considering just replacing them all with a set of Ping S159’s in 48/54/60. Less to think about and I would get another option off the tee. Not sure if that’s a good thing or not!

[Altnote]

13時間前、キウイハッカーは言った：

おそらく、私は元の質問を再確認する必要があります。47° PWをプレイしている人のために、あなたがプレイしているアイアンのメーカーとモデルは何ですか？最近提供されている多くの現代の鉄製セットには、47° PW が見らないので、私が尋ねます。

Nike VR blade Irons.

[NRJyzr]

9 hours ago, kiwihacker said:

Wow, a full range of classics. 

 

Until I put my set of Maltby TS4 in the bag, I was largely playing Vibration Matched Golden Rams (50° PW FWIW).  Amusingly, the loft progression is largely identical, just one club number off.  3-GW vs 2-PW.  Really the same.

 

[AverageFrenchGolfer]

I have a gap wedge from my Wilson set of irons. It's a 49 degrees, and I only do full shots with it.

 

And my only other wedge is a 56* (Cleveland CBX Zipcore full face 2) and I do EVERYTHING with it : Full shots from 100 yards, bunker shots, small chips etc. You just have to open the face to make it a 60* 

It's a no brainer.

 

I carry 12 clubs only (Driver - 5 w - hybrid - 5i/gw - 56* - putter)

 

I remember Tiger Woods saying he grew up doing everything with his 56*.

It's the only real wedge you need imo as a pw and a gap wedge are just 10 and 11 irons for fulls shots only.

Edited December 15, 2024 by AverageFrenchGolfer

[speedeuphoria]

2 hours ago, AverageFrenchGolfer said:

I have a gap wedge from my Wilson set of irons. It's a 49 degrees, and I only do full shots with it.

 

And my only other wedge is a 56* (Cleveland CBX Zipcore full face 2) and I do EVERYTHING with it : Full shots from 100 yards, bunker shots, small chips etc. You just have to open the face to make it a 60* 

It's a no brainer.

 

I carry 12 clubs only (Driver - 5 w - hybrid - 5i/gw - 56* - putter)

 

I remember Tiger Woods saying he grew up doing everything with his 56*.

It's the only real wedge you need imo as a pw and a gap wedge are just 10 and 11 irons for fulls shots only.

I have been debating this also going 50/56 and that same full face 2 56 wedge. Funny I have the same rest of bag setup.  I just was worried about having a low bounce option as my current 57deg13 bounce cant do it all.

 

Im heading toward 54/58 but will test that 56 wedge and be back to 50/56

[Obsessed]

Here - ZX7 PW weakened loft 48*,  53* and 58*.

[speedeuphoria]

4 hours ago, Obsessed said:

Here - ZX7 PW weakened loft 48*,  53* and 58*.

Standard 9i? Seems like a big gap

[AverageFrenchGolfer]

18 hours ago, speedeuphoria said:

I have been debating this also going 50/56 and that same full face 2 56 wedge. Funny I have the same rest of bag setup.  I just was worried about having a low bounce option as my current 57deg13 bounce cant do it all.

 

Im heading toward 54/58 but will test that 56 wedge and be back to 50/56

 

The fact the 56* is my only wedge makes me really confident with it, as it's obviously my most use club. An extremely reliable workhorse.

The Full Face grooves also ads a bit of confidence when you have to open the face.

 

Under 80 yards I could do exactly the same with a Vokey tho (or any "blade" type of wedge), as I like to toy with my dad's vokeys. The chunkier CBX profil helps me mostly for full shots around 100 yards, because my PW and GW are from my iron set and I would lose confidence (and probably distance) full shoting a blade wedge when all my other irons are beefier (Wilson D9 Forged)

Edited December 16, 2024 by AverageFrenchGolfer

[ebitdaiquiri]

Minimalist golfer here

I've just retired my old cleveland 53*

Bought a new RTX6 zipcore 56*

 

Bottom of my bag now looks like this:

Titleist AP1 9i 41*

Titleist AP1 W 50*

RTX6 56*

Putter